• JimTheFish replied to the topic Local Hero

    @Craig — that’s an excellent little docu. Bill Forsyth a big hero of mine. (Apart from Gregory and His 2 Girls, that is) I even think Being Human is an interesting failure and not as awful is it’s usually made out to be. Saw him gave a talk before a showing of said film at the GFT and it was really interesting.

    And Henry Winkler would have been…[Read more]

  • @Barbaralefty

    And why are you having to look so hard for the entire planet you hid?

    Because Tom Baker told him to.

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @BarbaraLefty

    Unless … you’ve not actually completed that part of the calculation yet.

    I think that’s a given. The Smith Doctor couldn’t have invited the Capaldi Doctor to the party, because he didn’t know there was going to be a future incarnation. Furthermore, the other Doctors all thought they were putting Gallifrey in stasis. But Gal…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic Local Hero

    @barbaralefty You unfortunately reminded me of this – Muppets vs The Wicker Man. Miss Piggy gives me nightmares.

  • ScaryB replied to the topic On The Sofa (6)

    @Ichabod That’s a great link to Q&A with Moffat.. Loved it. It’s a bit of a shame he’s the showrunner – I’m sure he’d have loved hanging out on our wee sofa if he was still just a fan 😉 (And delighted he confirmed our suspicions that Gallifrey is out of the Timelock but the Doctor hasn’t realised it yet (Listen))

    @Lisa – Further to your books…[Read more]

  • Whisht replied to the topic General Music thread 2

    Ah – have been lurking and reading but not had chance to post anything.

    In terms of Leone, I think we’ve posted before on his stuff and have to agree with Craig on the marvelousness of Once Upon a Time in The West.
    [sigh….. Claudia Cardinale… and aching (heart)strings.]

    ahem.

    also there was mention of “Bite me” and where it came from. Again…[Read more]

  • @barbaralefty — Sea of Souls was a short-lived X-Files-ey style Scottish show starring the mighty Bill Paterson. Never really lived up to its potential but the second series was better than the first I seem to remember.

    @purofilion — I never realised that was Jeremy Renner in Somnambulist until this year. Boy done good. Also for my money a film…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @purofilion @barbaralefty I am sure it is a whole continuous take (with just a bit of a cheat at the end – and of course a little cheat with the speed).

    They are know for adventurous videos and multiple attempts to get it right. This one is also one take, but took over 50 attempts to get it perfect. I do have to admire…[Read more]

  • Craig replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @barbaralefty You mean this work of genius?

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @Phaseshift Gods love you – what a lovely exposition of fan relationships to Doctor Who.

    And @Barbaralefty Gods love you too – I suspect you’ll be posting fan fic on A Teaspoon and an Open Mind http://www.whofic.com/ before you know it 🙂

    Indeed, in terms of the transfer from fan fiction to text,  Xena had two episodes written by a fan,…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    So much to catch up with! Thanks to everyone who generously shared their outside world writing. There are some immensely talented people on this forum! (I especially enjoyed @pedant’s Snow Goose piece. Excellent prose is hard to find these days.) I am realizing that I need to make time to check out the fan creativity page, which I have n…[Read more]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @barbaralefty

    I’ve enjoyed reading the contributions on writing as well, but time didn’t permit me to respond fully, so I’ve left it late (I’ll submit my note later). Like @juniperfish I’ll defend fanfic as a concept to the hilt. Especially as Doctor Who (and perhaps fellow sixties Sci-fi franchise Star Trek) owes the concept an awful lot.

    He…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @barbaralefty — Oh, I like this working title!  Why not?!  But only if I don’t have to buckle down now and write his books and articles for him, the arrogant old bastard . . . I’m circling, slowly and so far without full commitment, around another story about W.  There’s a band in it, in a coffee shop, middle aged guys who all have other jobs be…[Read more]

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @BarbaraLefty – no need to apologise – being opened to an idea is always great!

    Russell T. Davis argues that once a text is out there it belongs equally to audiences, who may do with it what they wish (in terms of both interpretation and textual re-working in fan works). I like his attitude:

    ‘Once a script has been made and transmitted, I h…[Read more]

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    Well the pub is lively!

    @Ichabod The Vampire Tapestry looks great! How exciting.

    @Pedant and @JimtheFish

    I believe twas I, not @Barbaralefty who said, upthread, that one might think of Moff and Gattis’ Sherlock as fan fiction. I stand by that. I disagree @Pedant that something becomes a somehow loftier “adaptation” rather than fan-fic if it is…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @ichabod     I too love LeGuin’s writing, although I’d say my personal favourite is probably The Dispossessed (with an honourable mention to the poetic beauty of the Earthsea Trilogy). Like @BarbaraLefty, years ago I read widely of the old school sci-fi writers such as Asimov, Heinlein, and so on, and never missed the female viewpoint. Interes…[Read more]

  • @JimTheFish

    Couple of things:

    @barbaralefty – I wholly disagree that Moffat’s Holmes if fanfic. It is an adaptation and the striking thing about it – especially the first two trilogies – is how very respectful of the source material (while not being constrained by it). See also US TV’s Elementary. Even post-Reichenbach the change was more to…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    A very interesting conversation with lots of great points. Particularly the one from @barbaralefty that Sherlock is essentially fanfic of a kind. (I wonder if you could stretch the point to saying that Nu-Who is fanfic too. Probably not.)

    I’d agree with @pedant that there’s a lot of awful out there and that the worst of it is an attempt to…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @JimTheFish

    I think it was Jenkins who pointed out in his study of fanfic that fans who write (including My Little Porny — whoops, *slap*, carry on — “ship” pornography) don’t write for the wider audience, but for others on their own wavelength.  And it’s more than just fun, for some.  The “failure” that they want to compensate for with their w…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic The Cloven Hoof

    @Ichobod I have just”googled” the book. Sounds fascinating. I will buy a copy. Of course only males read Sci Fi when it was written exclusively for males. I was put off most sci fi as a teenager by the lack of female characters. It is thanks to writers such as you persisting that that is finally changing.

    @BarbaraLefty. I have the same concerns…[Read more]

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