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6 May 2013 at 21:25 #8043
@pedant – I thinks everyone thinks it pretty obvious, but if you were to try and find a line – there ain’t one. So it’s not official.
6 May 2013 at 19:28 #8040Canonically – the cot is the Doctor’s own cot (A Good Man Goes To War)
However, it is a) a bit strange he should have his own cot on board and b) we have no idea how old Susan was when she and the Doctor fled Gallifrey. This has therefore led to c) the currently theoretical (but pretty popular) idea that his cot’s on board because it was also Susan’s cot.
Which would make it a family cot, passed down through the generations – which also explains why he wants to keep it. š
6 May 2013 at 17:42 #8032However, that begs the question of why, when he was running from Gallifrey ā grabbing his granddaughter on the way to stealing [erm, borrowing] a Tardis ā he made time to scoop up his own baby cot?
@Shazzbot – that’s why I think it was a ‘family’ cot, and Susan slept in it. He wasn’t scooping up the cot, he was scooping up her – like you might quickly grab the baby, still in the car seat,Ā from the car.Ā
6 May 2013 at 16:56 #8028Thinking about it, that cot is probably the saddest thing in the whole TARDIS. Just the thought that the Doctor can’t bear to throw away what was – almost certainly – the cot his granddaughter slept in. His dead granddaughter.
It’s enough to make me go all sniffly. š
6 May 2013 at 15:46 #8025@haveyoufedthefish – taking up your point that any companion would have done for school hard; it isn’t Susan as a character who’s likely to be central to the plot and/or subplot.
It’s her function as the Doctor’s granddaughter that’s likely to be central. I’m sure most Nu-Who fans wouldn’t recognise the name; but they should, if they follow the series, be aware that the Doctor has had children and grandchildren, and thinks that they’re all dead. That’s been referenced throughout Nu-Who, and the audience was carefully reminded of it in Rings. And The Doctor’s Daughter. And The Empty Child. And (if you were paying attention), there’s that empty cot in the TARDIS, seen in A Good Man Goes To War and again in Journey.
Moffat might use Susan, or he might use the Doctor’s clone daughter Jenny. But he’s referencing the Doctor’s lack-of-living-children fairly frequently.
6 May 2013 at 14:41 #8021@miapatrick – it was students from Kings College London who nicked it – they have a traditional rivalry with University College London as Kings was set up to combat UCL’s godless atheism.
@chickenelly – I got kicked out from UCL, but I still remember trotting past Jeremy Bentham on my way to lectures.
6 May 2013 at 12:51 #8007@satsumajoe – The Doctor is often the only person in-show who knows he regenerates – exceptions are Companions who’ve known him over more than one regeneration, such as Sara Jane and the kids, Clan Lethbridge-Stewart and (in Nu-Who), Rose. I think that the Eleventh Doctor is the first to continually make jokes about his being No. 11.
It may have a wider significance, or it may just be that he finds the idea of being ‘up to eleven’ a good joke. š Ā But the reference to ‘fall of the Eleventh’ may show that ‘The Doctor’ is now so famous, people have researched him enough to know that 11 is ‘the Eleventh’.
6 May 2013 at 12:17 #8002@whohar – reposting from the Graun, because we’re onto post seven-hundred-and-odd there…
I think the whole ‘red not dead’ part was provided for two purposes. One – to give a visual representation of the Doctor as a ‘monster’ – and furthermore, a monster who is isolated, helpless and unable to rescue himself.Two, to show that the Doctor-as-monster doesn’t need a ‘special companion’ to save him. Ada doesn’t even know him. She just reaches out to this helpless guy who can only hold her hand. By herself, all she can do is keep him alive and harmless (the restraints).
Jenny does know him – but when she rescues him, she doesn’t know she’s rescuing ‘The Doctor’. She just helps this poor bugger who’s probably been unjustly imprisoned.
So you’ve got the typical companion role (keep the Doctor alive and mostly harmless) combined with an actual companion who doesn’t know who she’s rescuing. The suggestion is that the Doctor could allow himself to stop being the ‘Deus Ex Machina’ and realise that he’s part of the universe, not its designated saviour. And if he does that, other people will try to save him; because that’s what the decent people do.
I thought the sonic was just used to switch the de-petrifying machinery on. The Doctor can’t talk, so he can’t say ‘press the Big Friendly Button, no not that one,Ā thatĀ one’. He has to use the sonic.
6 May 2013 at 11:28 #7989@chickenelly – did you have to glue the top hat on? š
(apparently, Strax’s top hat had to be glued down)
6 May 2013 at 11:24 #7986@whisht – I think Moffat’s reluctance over the spin off is simply the Doctor Who/Sherlock/OMG, another show to run? thing.
Crimson Horror may well have been Mark Gatiss’s pitch to be showrunner of The Paternoster Gang.
I know everyone’s thinking ‘SJA replacement’, but I reckon Gatiss is pitching for another ‘family drama’ slot – they’ve finished with Merlin, Who is thirteen episodes – so there’s a place for a Saturday night historical type drama. And they can always nick the sets from Ripper Street. š
6 May 2013 at 10:15 #7975@fulcanelli – It was Human Nature/Family of Blood. I think it was in the first episode of that two-parter, but it might possibly have been the second.
Which would suggest to me that it’s another clue-and-or-red-herring. The hymn in that story isn’t planted or anything; it’s just a bit of foreshadowing. The Master’s nowhere near that Edwardian School (and that version of the song is 1906, so they’re fine to use it).
But the last time the hymn was used, we had a chameleon arched Time Lord a few episodes later. So we (as in fans who know the series in enough detail to recollect when the hymn was last used) are being teased with the possibility that the chameleon arch is in play. š
6 May 2013 at 10:02 #7973Can I just say a word in praise of ebooks before everyone gets onto the dead tree love?
The purpose of a book is to be read. What with adjustable font size, adjustable page background and (in desperation) text-to-speech capacity, I find it immeasurably easier to read an e-book. They’re a wonderful invention š
Ebooks also help with the ‘get rid of books or buy a bigger flat’ conundrum. š
6 May 2013 at 00:26 #7945Ā yet markedly failed to do so with Clara.
@confuseus – Hi! One last post before bed (honest!).
No, the TARDIS knew precisely what she was doing with Clara; the only question is why? Quick trip to the junk room to see the Doctor’s name, quick trip to the Library to see the History of the Time War (and identify – someone), then shepherded back to the ghost control room. Once there, all corridors lead back to the control room. Clara’s seen what she was supposed to see; Ā she’sĀ nowĀ kept exactly where the TARDIS wants her.Ā
6 May 2013 at 00:13 #7942@timeloop – welcome! And you ask someone with moderator powers to delete posts – @craig, @phaseshift or @jimthefish.
I reckon she’s a trap set by the Doctor for himself. Timey-wimey.
River was a trap set by others for the Doctor – her purpose was to assassinate him. Clara is a trap set by the Doctor – her purpose is to save him. Mirror image.
“Time can be rewritten.” The Doctor’s spent all this time thinking he has to save the universe; he finally realises that he has to let the universe – in the form of other people – save him.
5 May 2013 at 23:24 #7935Canāt help wishing that Clara still turns out to be a regenerated fob-watched Susan thoughā¦
@htpbdet – My money is still on Clara’s mother as a regenerated Susan. That date of death – the day the Doctor returns from the Time War – is a tad suspicious.
And when Clara kicks the ball into the Doctor, there’s a moment when Ellie Oswald runs up to him – and just for a second, stops dead.
5 May 2013 at 22:11 #7928she doesnt want to save him, she just needs to keep him alive and get him to Trezidor.
@haveyoufedthefish – And the Silence are trying to stop the Doctor getting to Trenzalore – or at least stop him answering the Question. And we know the Silence are not nice. They killed Joy, kidnapped Amy for her baby Melody and electrocuted lots of people. If they’re on the side of the angels, it’s the Weeping Angels.
Was it Moffat who said that the bad guys, the monsters, don’t believe that they’re the monsters? But the Doctor believes he’s a monster; in this episode, he accepts it as a name. Yet this is probably the least monstrous Doctor we’ve seen in this half of the series. He’s ecstatic to get out of jail, he’s extremely caring to Ada, he doesn’t leap in with an explanation of her mother’s experiments. Post rescue, he’s probably as empathic as he’s ever been. Ā If @juniperfish‘s light/dark Doctor theory is right, this was Light Doctor.
What’s different? Basically, in this episode he had to drop the God Complex. He doesn’t rescue. He gets rescued. Most of the rescuers are the people he’s trained and encouraged – but Ada wasn’t. Ada didn’t even know him. Instead of being the Deus Ex Machina, the god who drops down in his machine and puts everything to rights, he spends the first half of the episode being the person who needs the Deus Ex Machina to do some dropping in. š Because there is nothing, absolutely nothing, he can do to rescue himself. Throughout this story, other people keep solving the problems and saving the day. Quite often, other people make the decisions or point out the solution.
And the Doctor – whether it lasts beyond the episode or not – is changed for the better by the experience.
5 May 2013 at 20:39 #7918she was interpreting his double knock as agreement
I thought it was a ‘no, you won’t’ response to Jenny’s ‘I’ll leave you to rot’. He knows she won’t leave him.
5 May 2013 at 20:20 #7914Oh, so you mean the North is the most beautiful part of the country?Ā Where all the exceptional music is born?Ā The best eating in the country?Ā The friendliest people?Ā Ā Gotcha.
@ Lula _ Check to all of the above – except you missed out ‘best comedians’. š
5 May 2013 at 12:41 #7859@lula – English North = American South, minus the Civil War bit.
5 May 2013 at 00:27 #7829Before I sign off for the night, ‘Gillyflower’ could be another ‘fourth wall’ reference. It’s botanical name isĀ Matthiola incana.
To go with last week’s ‘Smiths’ key, perhaps?
4 May 2013 at 22:58 #7819@juniperfish – I think ‘taken his happy pills’ was an excellent description; though perhaps it was simply Mark Gattis deciding that a Doctor who’s just been released from mute imprisonment would be a very happy Doctor indeed. š
Regarding young Thomas Thomas – he did seem very robotic, didn’t he? But if you look at his function in the plot, what he does is get Strax to Sweetville in time to save the Doctor and Clara from the Supermodels. Then he points out the activity on the chimney, allowing Strax to be in position to shoot Mrs Gillyflower.
So if Tom Tom is a robot satnav: is he from the Big Bad? Or is he, like the Doctor-spoonhead in Bells of St John, a robot that’s being used by the good guys?
The other question I’d ask is whether time is being rewritten – while I didn’tĀ likeĀ last week’s episode, it was very well written. And it contained a loop in which the Doctor goes round, and round, and round until he finally both stops getting himself killed and saves the TARDIS.
Thinking about this half of the series, we’ve had an awful lot of episodes where the Doctor would have died – if someone else (usually Clara) hadn’t come in to save him. So I’m going back to my idea right from S5 – are we watching a giant timey-wimey loop?
4 May 2013 at 22:37 #7809As some sharp eyed music fan pointed out on the Grauniad, Jerusalem is massively out of time – that was Parry’s setting, and it was written in 1916.
To Be A Pilgrim was last sung in Human Nature,Ā where it foreshadowed the return of the Master. Again, the version used is out of time – “I’ll labour night and day/To be a pilgrim” is the 1906 English hymnal rewrite, not the original words by Bunyan. I think she’s also using the 1906 Ralph Vaughan Williams tune.
So – two hymns, both wrong period. Given all the computer references, I think the Doctor’s already been uploaded, or he’s downloading his memories. We’re watching this in flashback, and that’s why things are ‘wrong’ – he’s trying to fill in the gaps in his memories and sometimes getting small details wrong.
4 May 2013 at 20:52 #7782Angie and Artie
After some thought: any bets on NG – News Group and RT – retweet?
4 May 2013 at 20:41 #7780Hi, @dalektable. Have a jammy dodger.
I think this Clara is possibly the original; she seems to have no connection to the other two – but Future Clara has her computer skills and Victorian Clara has Future Clara’s passion for souffles. I’m not sure this Clara has even mentioned souffles – or any egg-based foodstuffs.
The one thing they all are is some kind of nanny.
4 May 2013 at 20:29 #7777Angie & Artie
@thommck – Angie reminds me strongly of the creepy kid in Power of Three – who turns out to be a robot.
Angie and Artie – NG and RT? Robot serial numbers? Clara’s already made a reference to Pinocchio.
4 May 2013 at 19:32 #7751@timeloop – I suspect the Doctor and River have come to some arrangement, especially given that part of their relationship involves checking diaries to confirm whether or not they’re married yet. š
4 May 2013 at 19:20 #7748I want to know how those kids got all the pics of time-travelling Clara. Seems to me somebody else was using an image match program – and then fed the information to the kids.
4 May 2013 at 18:18 #7728Yes, a very funny comedy horror episode.
4 May 2013 at 14:16 #7721thereās a āplasticā sort of look thatās reminding me of something that I canāt quite put my finger on.
Talons of Weng Chiang? John Bennett was under so much early prosthetic make-up to make him look vaguely Chinese, he did look a bit plastic. Or something more recent, like the Flesh of the Almost People?
4 May 2013 at 13:41 #7717@HTBDET – it would have been quite funny if Sam had got the job – apart from anything else, he has a real look of his grandfather.
4 May 2013 at 12:22 #7710@HTBDET – yes, the David Troughton in A Very Peculiar Practice is Pat Troughton’s son. @whohar, it’s David and Michael you’re probably thinking of when you think of Ā Troughton brothers both acting – Pat Troughton did have a brother, but he wasn’t an actor.
There’s also Sam Troughton (David’s son), but to date he hasn’t yet appeared in Doctor Who.
4 May 2013 at 01:33 #7694(if the original episodes were, indeed, meant for children).
Oh, yes. You have to start the ‘stiff upper lip’ thing early, you know. The British firmly believe that being scared out of your tiny little wits is good for children. š
4 May 2013 at 01:24 #7692A little thought has just occurred to me as I was writing up my review; given all the references to stories within the series and this episode – were the TARDIS engines exploding until the Doctor decided to tell the Van Baalens his story about the engines exploding?
4 May 2013 at 00:45 #7691@Shazzbot. Classic Who certainly had sympathetic aliens; within the constraints of an adventure series. They weren’t all evil and sometimes it was the humans who were the bad guys.
Similarly, NuWho has had sympathetic aliens, but the Doctor’s lack of empathy is becoming a major problem. In a sense, we’re going back full circle to the First Doctor – who was a very dubious alien indeed. Susan, from what I’ve seen, was generally a nice, sympathetic teenager. The Doctor nearly murdered someone in his second episode (and Bill Hartnell was mainly known for playing crooks and hard nuts). The First Doctor needed Ian and Barbara to learn both empathy and morality – I suppose you’d say that the difference was that – after he’d learnt it – he didn’t seem to really need his Companions to keep him on the straight-and-narrow. Though, the Doctor being the Doctor, straight and narrow was more like ‘broad and a bit bendy here and there’. š
But post Time War, he was a traumatised near-psychopath. I’m not sure how much of this is meta about modern TV; a lot of the story ‘problems’ (like the Doctor’s near-god-like status) were caused by the need for a quick impact with the first series. Making Rose the emotional focus, the person who must keep the Doctor in check, was one of the ways to get audience identification. And it has carried on; the Companion is the emotional focus now. They’re us.
I’d certainly say that the humans are telling this story. And watching it, too. š
3 May 2013 at 23:45 #7686@Shazzbot -the most basic difference between the Classic Doctor and the NuWho Doctor was that the Classic Doctor always knew his universe contained other ‘immortals’. He didn’t depend on his Companions; he just preferred their company. There were other ‘people’ around; other people who aged the same way he did, regenerated the way he did, an entire culture to slot back into. People who weren’t ghosts, who allowed him to see other races as also people – just people with very short lives.
It’s the difference between a refugee who knows there’s a home to go back to (once that government has fallen) and one who knows their entire family, hometown, culture has been blotted out. With the additional problem that he can’t even die – Time Lords have survival built-in anyway, and the Doctor’s rather obviously not the suicidal type. Though there were certainly moments in Ten’s post-Rose career when he seemed to want to find some heroic method of not-committing-suicide-honestly.
The Classic Doctor really didn’t have that level of angst. Nine, Ten and Eleven all do pain beautifully – I think there’s a video on the subject over on the Fan Creativity forum.
3 May 2013 at 20:31 #7680@Shazzbot – I was using ‘alien’ in the sense that – to the Doctor – all of his Companions with the exception of Romana have been alien. Some of the Classic Who Companions were also alien to humans. š But yes, the NuWho Companions have been the ones with stable family lives up to Amy – Rory actually had a very stable family, it’s just that Amy was, from childhood, the most important person in his world.
The NuWho Companions have or gain a family. The NuWho Doctor is always left alone. You could say that the reason the Williams-Pond family were largely absent was because that story was all about the Doctor gaining a new family with River, Amy and Rory Ā (wife, parents-in-law) – only to lose them again. This suggests that Moffat does have a very firm direction in mind – the Doctor’s current situation seems to be one where there’s nothing to look forward to but semi-permanent heartbreak. He is alone; his only friends from a race that live less than a tenth as long as he does. He is a man with a dark and dangerous past; feared, known, famous. But rarely loved.
The Classic Who Doctor was often technically alone, but he starts the Classic series as a family man, a Grandfather. He’s exiled – but his world exists, and later he seems to be semi-reconciled with them. When they re-started Nu-Who they had to re-introduce the Doctor very quickly – and all that was gone. In its place was a shell-shocked war veteran who was the only survivor of his entire world.
I think the current direction is one where Moffat’s wrapping up the beginning of NuWho – putting that shell-shocked war veteran to rest and letting the man (or woman) behind ‘The Doctor’ start to live again. As Churchill once said:
‘This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
3 May 2013 at 15:51 #7671@htpbdet – no, not that bit. I’ll have to haul the DVD out and take a look – it’s earlier, when he’s told the prophecies by the Ood in Wookey Hole.
I think the point is that in most of the Gallifrey stories, people often do casually refer to previous events (or, not casually try to kill him/make him president because of previous events) and there’s always this unspoken assumption that Gallifreyan time flows in the same order as Doctor-time (i.e. in the same order as the TV programmes). Nobody’s worried about spoilers, or hauling out diaries, or saying ‘um, you know what? I think you’re that lout who’s going to marry my granddaughter – you’ve arrived back in your own past’.
Equally the Master and the Doctor always seemed to meet each other in the right order – without even trying.
3 May 2013 at 15:41 #7669Hmm… so in Classic Who, the Doctor has a fairly stable background to his life. He’s running away from it, but it’s there. He has a home planet (which he’s in exile from), he has a family (his granddaughter now has her own life), he has a shared history with a lot of other people (even if most of them want to kill him).
In NuWho, increasingly, there’s no stability. Initially, Gallifrey is burning, the family are referred to as dead, the TimeLords are gone – and there’s very few people left who know their history and even fewer who care.
He takes refuge in friends; in Classic Who he had a lot of friends; each of whom travelled with him for a few years and then left to get on with their own lives. The Doctor used to be a sort of reclamation centre; picking up stray aliens Ā and generally returning them to the universe more mature than when they’d met him. Better able to cope. Likely to make a real difference.
But in NuWho, even that refuge is becoming increasingly bleak. Somehow he’s lost his touch. The friends he finds would mostly have been better off if they’d never met him – Rose in exile, Martha’s family nearly destroyed by the Master, Donna mind-wiped, Amy and Rory trapped in a time before they were even born. His wife spent her childhood years being raised as a psychopath – because of him. And now there’s Clara, who’s already died twice and seems destined to get killed yet again.
However hard he tries, it seems, he can’t get back to the world before the Time War. And now he’s even losing his connection to his own life; he cannot remember his age. It’s not important; it doesn’t matter – but it’s pretty clear he no longer has any clue what it is. The reference points are gone; what’s he going to date it by? The years on a Gallifrey that no longer exists? A Time Lord calendar that’s long been forgotten?
So I’d say the age question is all part of the larger disconnect; the Doctor is lost. The only things left are his name (which must be secret) and his TARDIS (which must be kept out of battle).
Ten, when with Rose, could face the loss of the TARDIS reasonably calmly, could start thinking about what he’d have to do now (The Impossible Planet). Eleven, faced with the loss of the TARDIS, sounds like a bewildered little boy who’s just realised his Mum is dying. No wonder Clara reaches out to take his hand.
3 May 2013 at 14:28 #7666@htpbdet – “How would Romana know?”
I thought it was fairly clearly implied in Utopia, and made pretty explicit in End of Time, that Time Lords appear to have some kind of biological clock going which makes their lifetime run in synch with other Time Lords.
So in Utopia the Master complains he’s been stuck in this dratted laboratory for seventeen years, which is a meta-reference to the length of time since his last appearance in Classic Who. In End of Time the Doctor misses finding the Master because he delayed answering the Oods’ call.
And he knows it’s his own delay; I’d have to rewatch to find the lines, but the way he sort of saunters in to the cave in an ‘I’m the boss of time’ way Ā – and then races out to the TARDIS as fast as he can, trying to get every kind of speed out of her, strongly implies that the personal times of the Doctor and the Master are locked together. I’m not sure if he doesn’t actually say that.
Similarly, the Doctor never (to my recollection) meets another Time Lord out of synch. He never has to match diaries with another Time Lord. He never gets back to Gallifrey and discovers that, say, the Invasion of Time hasn’t happened yet.
So Romana would know exactly how long the Doctor had been roaming around with the TARDIS; it would be the same number of years as the years since he fled Gallifrey.
2 May 2013 at 21:45 #7635@phaseshift – yup. Does every school chemistry lab have some variation on “May her rest be long and placid”?
2 May 2013 at 20:59 #7627@htpbdet – “You mean he is downloaded there to keep him out of the way or permanently?”
Well… it could be to keep him safe. Or to have his memories on store. Or, like the ganger Doctor, we end up with two Elevens, one virtual.
From the technical point of allowing the actor to reprise his role even while visibly older, a computer version of Eleven does have the advantage of being able to set his avatar at whatever age he feels like this morning (‘I got bored with looking about nine – thought I’d go for the more mature look’)
2 May 2013 at 13:50 #7598I certainly wouldn’t read ‘mojo’ as being a person. Given that Clara’s eight at that point, I’d read ‘Mojo’ as the creative spark, finding the magic meaning. If you’ve ‘lost your mojo’, you lost the magic out of life.
Possibly another hint that Clara is Eleven or the Doctor in some rebooted form? The Doctor’s certainly lost his mojo and needs his Companions to get it back – he gave Amy a big speech about it in somewhere.
2 May 2013 at 13:40 #7597@bobbyfat – Clara could be an anagram of CAL, River and Amy. River to come up with the idea, CAL to do the programming, and Amy (possibly with Anthony’s help) to arrange the adoption of a baby designed to be whatever Clara is.
I’m still wondering if all these programming metaphors mean we’re going to end up with Eleven downloaded into the Library (which,Ā for the newbies, I suggested several episodes back Ā ::waves at all the new people::)
2 May 2013 at 08:04 #7550Ā Iām convinced that Omega is there somewhereā¦
@bobbingbird Combine with the Dark Doctor theory and the finale title: suppose the Doctor drops the name of The Doctor and takes the name of Omega. His title is, after all, now the Omega Time Lord (last of the Time Lords)
1 May 2013 at 21:27 #7507@scaryb – in Time of Angels Amy and Rory rewrite the plot that River wrote:
but the Doctor has to follow the script.
1 May 2013 at 20:53 #7490The timey-wimey loop I was considering was that the Doctor regenerates to a female baby and is adopted by Ellie Oswald, who is really a Chameleon-arched Susan.
Susan wants to do this for her Grandfather before she goes off and gets killed in the Time war ::sniff:: because it’s both repaying him for saving her (Bells of St John ref) and ‘he looked after me, now it’s my turn’ (Journey to CofT). Oh, and – of course – ‘blood calls to blood’ (Hide).
So the Doctor has been brought up as Clara Oswald by her own granddaughter and is, therefore (by adoption) her own Great-Grandfather. š
1 May 2013 at 19:56 #7457Ā the cost for him was being lost ā alone ā in an anti-matter universe where he went insane.
@htpbdet Strike out anti-matter, and you could have the Doctor after the Time War. Was that the reason for all the Omega symbols last year? The Doctor is slowly becoming a mirror to Omega?
1 May 2013 at 15:19 #7423Okay, bonkers theory re: the finale and the Fiftieth
The finale will be end on a cliffhanger where the disembodied Doctor is trapped within either a Dalek or the GI’s virtual reality.
The Fiftieth will be therefore be entirely about the best way to achieve a Deus Ex Machina – by getting the Lonely God out of the Machine… š
::Looks around nervously asĀ @jimthefish,Ā @scaryb, and @htpbdetĀ all pick up large, heavy objects to throw::
I’ll get me coat. Back in a few hours. š
1 May 2013 at 12:09 #7394Ā I donāt believe that JLC will be the new Doctor. She is going to be Susan or another relation ā but, Susan is my preference.
@htpbdet – I’m leaning towards Susan or Susan’s daughter, as well. But I keep looking at JLC and thinking ‘my God, she could play it. She could make you believe that she’s the Doctor. She really could’.
I hope she has a fine career post-Who; much as I like Karen Gillan, JLC is currently knocking Amy out of the park.
1 May 2013 at 11:59 #7387Ā Its going to be some personal crisis that he has been running away from all his life. I think.
@htpbdet Almost certainly. I cannot believe that even the Doctor would drag his baby granddaughter on a ‘see the universe or die trying (possibly both)’ tour unless he had to.
He ran. And whatever he was running from, he had to grab Susan as well.
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