• lisa replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @jphamlore I know you also mentioned the notion of magical resurrection to me previously.
    Well if Osgood is there and Danny and who knows who is trapped in that Nethersphere at least
    that makes a good team that gets to be together.
    I still think she is an epic loop of River’s making but possibly compromised by Missy?
    In ‘Before the Flood’…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @lisa     Lots of theories are good. It increases the odds of one of them being right. Then, as discussed yesterday, you get bragging rights.  🙂

    @Jphamlore    @ScaryB    The question of the ghosts and when they showed up is a good one. I’m adding it my list of things to think about as I watch through both episodes with fresh eyes. There’s a…[Read more]

  • ScaryB replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Jphamlore

    Re the Daleks not flying away – maybe some of them did.  And there’s a partly rejuvenated Davros to contend with in the future.

    Re Prentis and O’Donnell ghosts –  I wondered about that too, but then we also know they don’t appear during daytime, so maybe that’s why they don’t appear straight away, and we see only their bodies – s…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @jphamlore

    Your post about the Nethersphere as a possibility for Clara rang a bell for me. Michele Gomez
    teased the idea that we might be returning to the location where Amy was in ‘The Girl Who Waited’.
    That episode was where she got stuck in a clinic made for Time Lords and others that had a deadly virus.
    So maybe like you suggested Clara…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @supernumerary   I think the rock theme more came down to “wouldn’t this be cool, guys!”, and having Capaldi’s guitar right before the theme provided a nice excuse.

    Sounds good enough to me!

    @jimthefish  . . . despite the comprehensive embracing of the BG show in these episodes, the troll-brigade on t’other place are still baying for cancella…[Read more]

  • blenkinsopthebrave replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @arbutus

    Incidentally, I wonder, if Clara is indeed a Bootstrap Paradox, where does that leave Dad and Grandma? Unless it is Clara’s mother who is actually the paradox? Or am I just confusing things?

    Well, perhaps just a little bit!

    I am finding it difficult to get my head around the various, and seemingly increasingly convoluted, theories a…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic BBC Approved Spoilers

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  • lisa replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Bluesqueakpip @Mudlark @jphamlore

    I’m totally expecting a block buster twist about Clara’s last days. I expect nothing less!
    It seems to me that when Clara says ‘you don’t leave me’ that hit a nerve in the Doctor
    because he nearly keeled over. Why? Because he knows he needs to be with her to help with
    what ever it is will be…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Supernumerary     While it might be considered a cliché, I think that if something is presented for a purpose within the narrative, that shouldn’t negate using it anyway. In this case, of course, to draw our attention to Clara’s situation.

    @janetteB  @juniperfish   I would have to agree that, if Gallifrey is to be brought back, it would only…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @jphamlore

    I agree that we’re being led-by-the-nose in the direction of ‘tragedy’. I don’t recall seeing the Doctor quite this hysterical about companions-in-danger before. So I think that he knows Clara’s future. He thinks she dies young.

    To paraphrase what the Doctor said in this episode, he’s talking to Clara when he’s seen her dead on a…[Read more]

  • @jphamlore

    Even further than that. Everyone should buy this BBC DVD of a 1980 Play For Today – and DON’T google the title. Spoilers would ruin them. Thinking about it, I’m fairly sure Moffat did!

  • lisa replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @purofilion the ‘bootstrap’ comes from a sci fi story.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    @Ozitenor Yeah Blink and also @jphamlore Genesis of the Daleks too!
    But the Doctor didn’t purposefully design those paradoxes as a means
    to personal ends in his own story yet.

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @jphamlore    I would think that, just because those people thought they could go back and change history, doesn’t mean they actually could do it, and do it successfully. Look what happened when River tried not to kill the Doctor.   🙂

    Also, I would add my caveat to @Bluesqueakpip‘s, that just because a popular film deals with an idea, does…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @jphamlore

    Haven’t actually watched Interstellar …. 😈

    Seriously, having wasted an awful lot of time trying to explain time paradoxes to people wedded to a linear view of time, my experience is that many people just plain don’t get them.

  • @jphamlore Oh yeah, I thought that Missy was being bananas in order to think because that’s what I do to think. I just love that Missy let Clara think that she was going to kill them both when she wasn’t, yet. I think that Missy and Clara were a great team and it was fun to see how The Doctor cares about them both.

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @Juniperfish   Yes, sorry! I was nit-picking and should have made it clear that, apart from that quibble, I agreed with your point.  I am still puzzled by the decision to call the alien the Fisher King though, given that the name has such resonance.  I kept looking for something definite that might tie it in to the grail legend, but failed.  If y…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Before The Flood

    @charlie-cook  did you read the inscription on Prentice’s card: May the remorse be with you

    Thank you!  That went by to fast for me.  I liked the base crew very much — beautiful detail in the relationships there, looking forward to re-watches.  Loved the fourth wall business — what could be nicer than having the Doctor talk to us watchers direc…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic BBC Approved Spoilers

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  • lisa replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)

    @Mudlark Thanks for the suggestion about Rohan. I will definitely take up his books!
    Have you met him? His bio says he has worked on excavations. He seems a very interesting
    character and so I bet his books will be too.

    @jphamlore In regards to Clara. I cant completely agree about Clara as ‘baseline’
    human. There have been for me…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Under The Lake

    @jphamlore

    The more I think about it, the undersea base the Drum does not make sense.

    Unless my memory is at fault, I don’t think anyone in the episode was claiming that it had been built originally for the purpose of exploiting oil or other mineral resources.  It is adjacent to or within what had been a military base prior to the dam b…[Read more]

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