• Mudlark replied to the topic Last Christmas

    At last, five days later and very late to the party, I find myself with time to sit down and analyse, or try to analyse, why I found Last Christmas so very enjoyable and all-round satisfying.  Although I have read through all the comments to date, it has been at snatched intervals and at speed. I jotted down a few notes, but I apologise in a…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @macphisto96 – I had a chance to watch this again without lots of interruptions [finally!] and the thing
    is there is really only 6 items on Shona’s list — I stopped the frame to read her list — 1-dvd alien
    2-dvd thing from another world 3-Dad comes around 4-dvd miracle on 34th St. 5-game of thrones marathon
    and 6-forgive Dave. So the number 6…[Read more]

  • Barbara Lefty replied to the topic Last Christmas

    You see what happens when you go too far @macphisto96? You end up down a narrative cul de sac from which there is no hope of rescue, only to have Moffat do something so totally different that it breaks your head and before you know it, you’re over at the Graun blog screaming, “Moffat must GO!” But it was just that once, and I’m better now,…[Read more]

  • Barbara Lefty replied to the topic Last Christmas

    Oh @lisa, say it ain’t so about the dreamy dreaming dreamers. I can see one good ‘And it was all a dream’ episode, but yeah the dream patches are too big a deal, unless there is a simple explanation like the sedative in them is derived from dream crabs, although it is strongly implied they are the stuff of legend, even for the Doctor. Anyway, I…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @macphisto96 -Seven is also the number for creation – the world created in 7 days and all that- Miracle
    on ’34th’ St {3+4=7]- so then I just wonder about what the relevance of that might be too. Also in Kabala
    nothing can exist without 7 attributes etc and so on. I guess I’m wondering if Missy could maybe be the
    architect of these dreams?
    But…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @cubefox Does anybody like her?

    I daresay if you bother to read through some of the posts on this forum – heck, just this thread, alone – you might find a few people who like her.

    @Bluesqueakpip … yeah, really sulk. By the volcano. It matches his mood.

    I like that. It fits.

    @JimTheFish Well, that was really good. I’m glad that SM is continu…

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  • Barbara Lefty replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @Macphisto96, @purofilion, re leery behaviour, I put it down to a sense something wasn’t right, although i was wondering if there would be an exchange along the following lines…

    Santa: So…. Marilyn was really upset when she found out you’d run out on her…

    Doctor: Shut up

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @nerys

    As @macphisto96 said, it was the Mirror who reported as Absolute Actual FACT that JC was leaving at Christmas. Methinks they were stitched up, either deliberately or as part of a ruse to flush out a leaker.

    Useful tip (which I am sure @JimTheFish will confirm) when reading news: if a major outlet runs a story and absolutely no other…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @MacPhisto96

    I’m not sure if that was ever the case.

    I think we were deliberately teased to try and inject some real suspense into the ending. And I suspect that there were some scripts that only had the ‘dream’ ending, as if it were the real ending – possibly the Mirror got hold of one of those, or possibly their source was someone who could o…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Last Christmas

    @MacPhisto96

    I think that Danny truly found a way to reach out to her

    I think that may have been a similar thing to AutonRory truly being Rory; Clara remembered Danny so perfectly that the Dream Danny she brought into being was Danny.

  • @macphisto96 I agree Missy was central to Deep Breath. Remember when the Doctor and Clara are describing the type of person who would have put the ad in the paper?  An egotistical needly game-player. Although they […]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @macphisto96

    I wouldn’t worry about @fonsini s point. A casual look at his posting history will reveal what he’s about.

    I did mean to respond to @brewski s comment earlier in the thread though when he quoted the line about praying.

    OMG! Is that how the world sees us?! :O I need to move!

    I think in an episode that played a lot on the…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @macphisto96   I agree; I don’t think Missy was lying, although I suspect that she was being a little bit economical with the truth in order to mislead the Doctor, and the Doctor, in his eagerness to learn the whereabouts of Gallifrey, failed to register what she was actually saying: that Gallifrey is in exactly the same place as it always was, b…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    So now I have read through all the posts some comments,

    I have to disagree with @phMO and others who have remarked about a “lack of fun” this series. I have found it to have many LOL moments. The style of humour is different to that of the M.S. era. It is juxtaposed against the more sombre overall tone of the series but those moments are there…[Read more]

  • @macphisto96

    nah, don’t care how it was dressed up, it was a lazy way of getting an inconvenient prop out of the way so that Kirk could emote about his son (but drifting a tad too far OT for here methinks).

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @macphisto96   I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere speak of the missing joy.  I understand that, but that is purposeful.   This is interesting, because I myself have actually felt huge joy in this series. I have laughed out loud, I have smiled, I have sat wide-eyed, and after so many episodes have gone “YES.” Yes, the show has been thoug…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @pedant     Thanks for clarifying that. I will have to watch again to see how that affects my teleport theory. To which I am pretty attached, because I really, really want to think of a way that Osgood could have survived!

    @Bluesqueakpip    Interestingly, at the end, it seemed that the Doctor was more willing to accept Danny than Danny was to acc…[Read more]

  • The9thDoctor replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan

    True!
    But I don’t remember.. Does actually marries her?

    @Miapatrick

    Haha, my bad! I meant her grandmother!

    @macphisto96

    Great point!

    The Brigadier and Danny were ‘soldiers’ that held their promises till the end. No matter how much there were absorbed into darkness. This was important to solve Doctor’s identity…[Read more]

  • Timeloop replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    @macphisto96 Yes, I know that. As I said I understand the reasons but I am still reminded of what’s missing when I see 11. That’s not to say I don’t like 12. They shouldn’t be compared. And to burden oneself without complaint is really not something only british people do.

    @Barnable What kind of clues did we get (besides figuring out who Missy…[Read more]

  • Apopheniac replied to the topic Death in Heaven

    Hello @herisson

    Your point in comment 35090 is a very good one, re Les Revenants and how the Afghani boy’s parents will react to having a son return from the dead many years later but at the same age as he died.  Many people everywhere (mostly not here, though) have complained how dark it was in Dark Water to posit that the dead can feel pain.  B…[Read more]

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