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10 January 2013 at 02:31 #1087
I’ll repost this here now, although some may have seen it on the G Blog. It’s a fan produced 50th Anniversary “trailer” featuring all incarnations of the Doctor.
The First Question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7li5eZ3JZbA
Some good, different clips. Night All.10 January 2013 at 02:24 #1085
Never managed to systematically watch every episode of the X-Files.
I struggled through to the bitter end, but I didn’t end up buying or revisiting the last few series.
Yep – I worship at the alter of Wheden as well (with the exception of DollHouse), and Xena was enjoyable, especially comedy episodes. In moments of drunkeness I have been known to sing “Joxer the Mighty”.
I’d love to see a reconstruction of Dalek Materplan. I have a feeling that the closest I’m going to get is the old Target novelisations by John Peel, which may be the subject of my first blogpost at some point.10 January 2013 at 02:12 #1083
Yes, I think the difficulties of bringing back anyone other than 8 onwards would have been enormous to be honest. I think they could come up with ideas (like Davisons one off with Tennant), but can’t help feeling it will diminish peoples enjoyment to see the ravages of time.
It’s nice that they are doing this to augment the celebrations though. I think we will see them all in some sort of retrospective scene in the 50th TV special (an augmented Eleventh Hour scene perhaps), but no new material.9 January 2013 at 23:13 #1073
Apparently Big Finish are doing a “Five Doctors” for their 50th Anniversary release, including Baker x 2. Davison, McCoy and McGann, and an interesting line-up of campanions.
The entire package sounds quite nice, if you are into the audio stuff.9 January 2013 at 22:20 #1071
Make sure your dog eats the continuity announcement after Nevermore! 🙂9 January 2013 at 22:03 #1067
I enjoyed that much more than yesterday. Loved all the Edgar Allan Poe references. I recognised Fenella Woolgar from her turn as Agatha Christie in The Unicorn and the Wasp, but had to look up Eric Loren when his name sounded curiously familiar – Daleks in Manhatten it was.
Couldn’t believe that Nick Briggs, in his continuity link for tomorrow, seemed to “spoil” the identity of the other Time Lord referenced over the last two days. If he did that for TV, he would be nailed up by his thumbs!9 January 2013 at 18:35 #1047
A link to a “Tumblr sensation” – Alisha’s puppet Matt Smith, a series of photos and animations.
Good lighthearted stuff. BBC Worldwide should be in contact with her. Wouldn’t every kid want a Wee Matt Smith?9 January 2013 at 14:30 #1027
As an unremitting geek I’ve probably sampled every show ever shown (including such fare as “Pankiller Jane” – a series with absolutely nothing to recommend it).
Personal highlights over the years have included Blakes 7, Sapphire and Steel, Star Trek: DS9, Babylon 5, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica (remake), The X-Files, Millennium & Stargate.
Last year, I was bemused by the decision not to renew The Fades, gave a big “WTF” to Hunted, thought series 3 of Broadwalk Empire became must watch TV in the final half, and lamented the end of Leverage and Merlin at Christmas.
I found Series 3 (Part A) of The Walking Dead a vast improvement on series 2, and decided if Joe Gilgun decides to leave Misfits, it’s probably screwed at this point.
Looking forward to the next series of Being Human which is due to be shown between now and when Who returns.8 January 2013 at 23:30 #937
Many thanks for that. It’ll give me something to have a look at the weekend.8 January 2013 at 21:21 #865
I’ll have to put my thinking cap on for this, but I did have a lot of time for Leela (and it was nothing to do with shamy leathers 😉 honest).
I said on the anniversary thread Jamie would be a great one to bring back, just because of the memory link. And of course Fraser has form with anniversaries after his cameo in “The Five Doctors”.
Harry Sullivan did travel with the Doctor – he was with the Doctor for Ark in Space, The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks and Revenge of the Cybermen, before returning to Earth in Terror of the Zygons.
Ian Marter, who played him, went on to write a number of the Target Novelisations, including Ark and Sontaran Experiment. Another sad loss.8 January 2013 at 21:01 #841
but I really liked the audio version of ‘Shada’ which they did a few years back.
I’m ashamed to say I missed that when it was broadcast, but have heard it was particularly well done.8 January 2013 at 20:58 #837
I don’t think these threads are going to be amazingly active, so I won’t set up a separate thread for each.
Not too sure about that. I think on paper this would have looked like a “zany” way to introduce a new comapanion, and zaniness has to be treated carefully. Here I think the tone lurched a bit.
As it unfolded and it turned out that the competition had been arranged by another time traveller I became more intrigued. There are many worse ways to spend an hour of your time though. The new girl seems a little subdued after Lucie, but I’ll still be tuning in for the rest of these.7 January 2013 at 22:41 #675
Well – a mega post before I dematerialise to bed and sleep (hopefully, cause the insomnia is getting less funny by the day).
I do find the eight haters quite funny – but surely he is canon now. I like the fact that RTD was offered the option of ignoring his turn by BBC Worldwide, and basically went to the other major writers he was working with and the collective view was that – yes, he was the Doctor.
And I do think that was fair. For all the faults of the film, I think he really impressed me as the Doctor. The scene in which he convinces Grace that he is the same man she operated on by telling her about her favourite composer is magical.
I posted on the audio blog, that today’s episode on R4 Extra was possibly the wrong entry point for these stories. It saw the end of an era, and people may have been confused by some of the backstory. While produced for commercial release, the habit of Radio 4 to broadcast previous years runs after Christmas has become a regular fixture. They are lovely in their own way, and seem significant somehow because they started out as very “classic” structured series, but have developed and are now transitioning to something more like nu-Who. As you will see from the Doctors look. That leather coat is very Ecclestone.
Tomorrow’s episode at 6pm and 12pm might interest you because it’s a starting point with a situations vacant position for a companion willing to travel with the Doctor. A good jumping on point.7 January 2013 at 21:12 #639
2. Ecclestone, Tennant and Smith bickering in the TARDIS
As I’ve been listening to Paul McGann as the Doctor on Radio 4, can we throw him into the mix as well? Craigs created a link on the homepage, but look at the guy in this publicity photo for the Big Finish stuff. He’d be magnificent.7 January 2013 at 20:37 #637
Thanks for the link – I understand that once the downloadable versions are all published in November, they are going to be released as a book. There is some speculation about who is involved (one favourite seems to be JK Rowling).
Some of the non-blog Doctor Who guardian articles can really drain your enthusiasm when you see the comments section. Words fail me.7 January 2013 at 19:16 #633
I’m going to admit I got properly emotional at the end. It was probably a poor choice to introduce new people to these audio adventures, because they would have been as confused as hell if they hadn’t heard any of the others.
Sheridan Smith has been glorious in this run as Lucie. I’d love to see her and McGann do some televised work because the chemistry has been great. I understand that they have become firm friends (she put him up for a part in her second appearance in Jonathan Creek “The Judas Tree”).
In tomorrows episode “Situation Vacant” the role of companion is up for grabs. But who has organised the shortlist?7 January 2013 at 17:34 #619
Hmmm – not sure if this will work – but Moff – for the love of god I will erect some sort of shrine if you can make this version of 8 appear in the celebrations. A publicity shot for the last Big Finish audio adventures shows McGann as how he would have preferred to appear (he really hated his wig).
Edit – Alas the IMG function doesn’t translate. I tried to link to a publicity shot for Big Finish that shows McGann as the Doctor.
To avoid spoilers – I’ll post a direct link to the picture only.7 January 2013 at 16:18 #605
Just a note on the schedule for these audio adventures which start today.
They are on Radio 4 Extra and broadcast at 6pm-7pm with a repeat at 12pm.
Monday 7th – Death in Blackpool
Tuesday 8th – Situation Vacant
Wednesday 9th – Nevermore
Thursday 10th – The Book of Kells
Friday 11th – Deimos7 January 2013 at 16:06 #603
I feel pretty much the same on spoilers. I usually read the press releases to see who will be writing for the series, but tend to avoid any site that is too spoilery as it tends to reduce speculation and theorising which I love.
I was really annoyed back in November when I went to read an SFX review of something and they had a front page picture of the new design cybermen which you’d have difficulty in ignoring. As we’ve seen them in the trailer I’ll post the link if anyone wants a closer look. They are pretty snazzy.7 January 2013 at 01:09 #577
On our wish list for the 50th, I guess this is never going to happen, but I thought a series in which each episode referenced a place/time/person associated with past Doctors would be really great. The reason would be to reflect on who he actually was (because he doesn’t know).
For instance, an episode referencing Pertwee in which eleven landed on Peladon, and to post a HTPDBET idea, had to fight robot Aggedors controlled by the GI.
For the second maybe an episode set in Scotland with an aging Jamie (Frazer Hines) with them both trying to remember each other (Jamie’s memories were erased by the Timelords).
It would be interesting to see what places/foes/ideas other people could come up with for an idea like this.
For Companions, I will leave you with this.6 January 2013 at 21:47 #573
Welcome to the new playground. You’re late. Did you bring a note 😉6 January 2013 at 21:41 #5696 January 2013 at 18:43 #561
Just to pre-empt any discussion, I’ll confess that when @juniperfish launched her “what are your favourite three episodes of each Smith series” I selected this as one from Series 5. Yes, the monster is a bit rubbish. Yes, the ending is monstrously sentimental….but I still think this is a bit special.
I find Tony Curran a constant delight in the many support roles he has done over the years. In this, I think he delivers a masterclass in sympathetic portrayal of a very tortured real person. Karen Gillan said that he went to Croatia early to watch some of the filming of Vampires of Venice (Croatia doubled as Venice and France in this series) and he, Karen and Matt became very close. I really do think this chemistry shines through into the episode itself.
Some of the imagery and set dressing is stunning. I love the “Starry Night” sequence and therefore repost this link (warning – contains weapons grade Don McLean).6 January 2013 at 18:31 #555
I share the desire to see Canton again. I loved the story about how they cast the aged Canton. In a group casting discussion, they were asking who could play him old, and Mark Sheppard said “I’ll drag my dad (Morgan) out of retirement for that. He’d love it! He really regreted having to turn down a part on the original series because he was in theatre”. And lo – Morgan Sheppard (who must have influenced his son with guest spots on Star Trek, Babylon 5, Day of the Triffids, SeaQuest DSV, etc) came to be old Canton.
And Canton was just so cool. After a trip in the TARDIS, is there any better reaction than “Love your wheels”.6 January 2013 at 16:18 #547
Neve McIntosh was fantastic. I’ve loved her ever since her turn as Fuschia in Gormenghast
Oh you clever Fish. I was wondering what I’d seen her in before. I really need to rewatch that. I was drawn to it because of Christopher Lee, but the entire production was great.
Chris bloody Chibnall and his tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sorry – I’m going to have to get a cloth to wipe away the tea I just sprayed my monitor with. Both funny and very accurate.5 January 2013 at 22:54 #485
Our Southern hemisphere friends may be interested in the following link.
The Aussies start the 50th early.
I understand the resulting podcasts will be available to all, on the 23rd of each month. I demand equality in Nothern climates!5 January 2013 at 22:31 #483
I’d send them an e-mail. I was wondering about Juniperfish in particular because of her support on the last blog for a site like this. I understand some users have strange operating hours, so it would be useful.
I think people will readily understand any teething troubles. Craig, I think I would have operated at half your speed to get this site up and running to this extent. You really do have my congratulations.5 January 2013 at 21:54 #479
My initial reaction, however, was ‘Oooh doesn’t Matt look young’.
He’s reported to have had a stomach complaint between first and second series which made him drop a lot of weight. It really is an astonishing difference between Matt in this series and the next couple though. He looks gaunt in the later series.
I thought it was worth putting up a link to the old blog to recognise our source, but it is astonishing to see how we have changed. I think on the later blogs I made less comments, but we had more voices.
Looking at it, Juniperfish and HTPBDET are the most recognisable these days (and it is surprising if you consider their relative activity – HTPBDET made far more comments). I do love how the blog seemed to grow based upon an early inclination of people wanting to post more than “this is shit” or “this was great”.
I actually do miss comments by JaneBasingstoke, Danalottah @ Grendle, amongst others, even if I disagreed with them at the time 🙁5 January 2013 at 20:49 #475
I was very positive about this when I first saw it. After a frenetic first half of the season, I found the change of pace to something slower welcome, and looked forward to the introduction of the Silurians.
When I came to rewatch it in a DVD marathon, it seemed an oddity and I got (gasp) bored. I think that is the danger with box-set marathons of things you’ve already watched. You tend to look at the change of pace episodes and think “Yeah – let’s get this over with – we have the final four episodes to get to!”.
Watching them at a more leisurely pace, with no expectation for the future, I can see why I liked it. It had a bit of room, but not possibly enough. It tried to recreate that initial Pertwee encounter, but didn’t have the room to manoeuvre. The conversion of Malohkeh from “dissecting scientist par excellence” to “on the side of hominids” is really jarring in retrospect. I do think it could have been handled more elegantly, even with the time available.
I love the re-design of the Silurians, and the fact that they were presented as another associated species of the Silurians (in our history, we shared the planet at one point with five or six of our hominid cousins). Without that redesign we would not have Vastra, and I was surprised at the negative reaction to it. I genuinely wanted to bang my head on the screen at the previous blogs argument about “Homo Reptilia” vs “Reptilia Sapiens”. The former was used in the Pertwee years, and deviation would have bought even more cries of betrayal by ancient fanboys, I’m sure.
I think this did what it needed to do. Bring a species back, in a familiar story and familiar pace.
The ancient blog also revealed a surprising amount of Rory-Rage, which I didn’t get at the time. It’s humorous to consider though that those early posts arguing “what does she see in ‘im” later became “what does he see in ‘er” as we went into series 6. Truly, Arthur Darvill should be congratulated on how he really did grow on the audience.5 January 2013 at 18:09 #467
You do realise that I now need to rewatch that episode again 🙂
I’m beginning to think I should have selected the username “PhaseFish” to fit in.5 January 2013 at 17:44 #465
I may as well write about one of my presents now. I really hate anything that is termed “celebrity” but I was given a book at Christmas called “Behind the Sofa – Celebrity memories of Doctor Who”. It is, however, a lovely idea.
A sponsorship funded project to raise money for Alzheimer’s research. Hardbacked, with a few simple illustrations for each entry, the quality of the contributors* makes it what it is. A mixture of writers, ex-stars and guest stars of the show, and those talking heads we’ve come to fear.
It contains a cut above the usual talking heads though. The Guardians Charlie Brooker explains his youthful horror at the end of one of the episodes of “The Leisure Hive” where Tom Baker appears to be torn apart. Mitch Benn (of The Now Show, who has been allowed to sing about his love of the show**) explains how Adric was a wanker, and how devastated he was by his death.
Many of the contributions are about family memories and friendships built up around the show. It really is engaging, and a thing of love. This link will take you to the Amazon entry which will enable you to preview the pages with a list of contributors. Other retailers, with a more socially responsible attitude to paying Tax are available.
Above all – a book about memories to raise money for a charity who seek to help people losing theirs. Very Doctorish.
* Warning – May contain Louise Mensch.
** Mitch Benn has sung often about Doctor Who on Radio 4’s Now Show. My favourite has to be “Save my Doctor Who”. People may remember that an episode may have been shown a week later if a football match had gone to extra time. The day before he recorded this for broadcast.5 January 2013 at 16:40 #453
Merchandise – One of the best things about being an out, loud and proud Doctor Who fan is people buy you stuff you actually like. I’ve had loads of good stuff over the years from neices and nephews, my partner and other family members.
This year I had a few books, which I might write about later. I think the best thing I was ever given was a metal replica of the fob-watch used by The Master in Utopia with an autographed photo of Derek Jacobi. It was a lovely present for me, if you consider my choice of avatars over the years.5 January 2013 at 16:31 #449
The 50th special is to be filmed starting in February(or April, depending upon sources). I posted this link to the docu-drama that Gatiss has scripted “An Adventure in Time and Space” which goes behind the scenes of the creation of the programme.
@bluesqueakpip mentioned the Quatermass Experiment and I too heard of a live experiment to tie into the docu-drama. I took it with a pinch of salt because they only rarely had to do live stuff, and the story choice that was named – Edge of Destruction, actually exists, and some of the plot points in it would be lost on people who hadn’t seen the earlier serials.5 January 2013 at 16:11 #445
Well done @craig – this looks very homely!
And it was at that point, that I thought I might drop the anagrams!
It’s funny you should mention that. When I was going over the old “Cold Blood” blog I came upon an entry where I tried to unlock the anagram key of Amy/Amelia Pond. I’d completely forgotten that I’d written it. I was someone else at the time, but this comment permalink may take you to it or at least highlight it in blue if you scroll down.
I really ought to take my past incarnations advice and give it up myself!5 January 2013 at 00:55 #395
I’m aware you won’t be watching the repeat on the BBC tomorrow, but if you’d like to share your thoughts. I thought it a worthy effort at the time, but came to see the flaws, and then later on absolutely loved it.
It has to be a year since I saw it last, so I’m interested in how I’ll see it tomorrow.
Hope to see you there!5 January 2013 at 00:43 #393
I think the mirroring and themes of intelligence may possibly be critical as time goes on. If you consider there are at least 3 versions of Clara/Oswin (Oswin “I Snow”) from the last two episodes, one more in present day, another in a manuscript (?) from the past in the trailer, what if every time she meets him she mirrors him, and takes on more of his attributes? I’m not sure why I’m thinking this, but it could be that fairly old idea that a mirror steals part of your soul (Remember “Kinda”). Hmmm. I will report back tomorrow. With more alcohol.5 January 2013 at 00:23 #389
It’s a good idea, on the bookclub, and you’ve mentioned the series I most remember (and especially Talons), so if you want to pick a week, I’d volunteer to set of a blog about some of its history at least.
Thanks for that. Most of what the Guardian is doing at the moment (with threading, etc) is to try to tempt the lurkers to actually comment and get engaged, but I can’t see that it will work. I lurked for years on internet forums before I lept in, so I can understand some reluctance. Can I ask – you say you don’t know enough about the shows. Since when did that stop anyone else on the “G” commentating? You’ve made some good points. I’m a T. Baker boy myself. I think this could acually be a lot of fun.5 January 2013 at 00:08 #387
I would like all my fellow posters to know this is a purely administrative function.
Now kneel. No! Just watch Cold Blood, post on the thread, and let me know when you plan to watch Asylum. Cold Turkey from Who is a terrible thing, and I’m sure we’ve all had our fill of Cold Turkey!
Will we be tissue-compressed-eliminated if we don’t do our homework, though?
Haha, of course not! Just
microwaved, er…we’ll just realise you’ve got better things to do!
Phew!4 January 2013 at 23:52 #385
After making a spectacular error when my page failed to reload I have actually made a new post on the repeat of Cold Blood! It’s here, with dates, stats, links and everything!
If anyone wants to comment if they watch, or want to re-watch the episode on DVD, please feel free. I have some thoughts on my mixed feelings on the episode to share after I re-watch it (a critical point, my point of view varies on my immediate mood).
Can I just say I was shocked when I re-read the thread by some of the names missing in later blogs, and the inactivity of others. I love the people who replaced and made those blogs what they were, but it’s a shame so many dropped of the radar.4 January 2013 at 23:02 #373
Before I embark on answering posts does anyone else laugh when the click box “remember me” appears below their login details?
It just seems so massively appropriate.4 January 2013 at 15:50 #341
Those lonely weekends without new who. As well as exercising our thoughts on the enigma of Clara, @craig had an idea on the suggestions post about viewing an episode a week as a kind of “Book club”. I think it’s and interesting idea. A couple of thoughts on this general blog, just to gauge peoples access to previous episode.
There are a number of empty threads on the recent 7a series, starting with Asylum of the Daleks. As we are discussing CLARA, is a group re-watch and comment worth doing? or is it too recent?
The alternative may be that BBC3 resumes the showing of Series 5 tomorrow at 1945. Unfortunately it’s part 2 of the Silurian 2 parter “Cold Blood”.
What interested me about this is that, looking at the old Dan Martin blog with a paltry 220 comments or so, I don’t remember many of you around at that time (unless like me, you have regenerated since). It could be interesting to hear new thoughts though, and from people who were around at the time to see how their own perceptions had changed over time.
Is there any interest in either of the above? Or any other ideas?
I’ll pop back in an few hours to see if there is any feedback.4 January 2013 at 15:34 #339
Hurray – As my Avatar appeared overnight from the temporal trap it was in, I presume whatever ailed me has cleared.
Look at its majesty and weep (remembers he has to be responsible now, and shuffles away).
Welcome aboard!4 January 2013 at 02:05 #327
Oh – something else as well. I read on the last blog you’d managed to watch some of the missing episodes on a DVD release. If we set up a separate thread at some point would you mind giving us your thoughts on it as a package? What it covers, special features etc? Might be a new conversation?
I saw the recreation of The Invasion recently and loved the way the animated episodes worked. They are doing another one later this month with Reign of Terror.
Right of to try to get to sleep (post New Year Insomnia is a killer!4 January 2013 at 01:58 #325
On another tack, when we talk about “the 50th”, are we talking about the episodes that start in April? Because they will be over well before November 23. Or is it likely that there will a big movie-length stand-alone for Nov 23? Has anyone heard anything to this effect?
Yes – I was going to talk about that, you’ve reminded me!
I came across a news site when they announced that the eight episodes of 7b would be broadcast starting at Easter, which was later than I expected.
There is indeed a 90 minute special planned for the Anniversary and a one off drama about how the show was put together (penned by Mark Gatiss) this should link
Matt seemed to confirm he’ll be doing the Christmas Special next year, but no information about anyother episodes between the anniversary and Christmas Special 2013.3 January 2013 at 22:24 #3113 January 2013 at 22:20 #309
Will people run away from the blog if I mention something from “The Eleventh Hour”?
We’re presuming the Doctor is eliminating his own history.
In the Snowman he selects the recent entry in the journal by throwing the book in the Air and advising Richard E Grant “You should really delete your history….”.
And back in “TEH” he advised the hapless Jeff to do something similar after he created his “bit alive” virus to trap Prisoner Zero on his MYTH laptop.3 January 2013 at 17:37 #287
@janetteb some good thoughts, particularly on other shows, and I guess we could look at it. I often see names on the G from the Who Blogs who ask for coverage and discussion on other TV shows (not only Dwarf, but also recently Merlin and Misfits, and suchlike). The next one may be “Being Human” which is due to start before the next series of Who, so it might be something to consider (The G used to do blogs on the series but stopped them a couple of series ago to much consternation).3 January 2013 at 16:02 #283
so Clara’s program
It would be really funny if Moffat is doing some of that wordplay he likes.
“Run you clever boy …. and remember”
turns out to be
10 RUN “You Clever boy”
20 AND “Rememer”
30 GOTO 103 January 2013 at 15:55 #281
Still having some issues, but I think I know what the problem is (Huzzah!)
@craig, thanks for the audio thread. If no one has any objections I’d certainly agree to help in any way I can (as Mod). Let me know if you want me to e-mail you (it might be at the weekend if that’s OK).
@blenkinsopthebrave, I think the story on the redesign is that the Who Team have moved studios to the new BBC’s Roath Lock Studios in Cardiff. I’ve heard it suggested that the cost of the move was about the same as rebuilding a new one. Don’t know if there is any deeper meaning to it.
Interesting with all our talk of breaking 4th walls, this set is the first to have all 4! It was why this set was suitable for that lovely tracking shot of Clara entering the TARDIS, and the wider variety of camera angles.2 January 2013 at 14:29 #177
Not sure if these add anything to the mix. But I couldn’t help notice both Oswin/COOs appearances have featured telepathy:
Oswin: The Daleks, they have a hive mind. Well they don’t, but they have a sort of telepathic web.
The Doctor: The pathweb, yes.
Oswin: I hacked into it. Did a master delete on all the information connected with the Doctor
And as I think @scaryb mentioned on the G blog, Clara seemed to get a really unusually strong reaction from the telepathic snow. Maybe she is a telepath (even if she’s not fully aware of it). It would certainly explain her use of “Pond” as a key word (by sensing the term from Jenny or Vastra). Would the act of being in the TARDIS allow her to bond with its telepathic circuits?
Loving the mirroring ideas and references.
Anyway hello again to new and old faces. I’m going to have to deal with my IT issues, but I will be back on Friday to have a play with this new format. If anyone is interested I mentioned that the Eighth Doctor is back on Radio 4 Extra on this coming Monday at 6o’clock. Maybe if others (who can) are going to listen we can establish a separate thread to talk about it.
Also hope we get a few more people coming over and in as the weekend comes in!