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  • #14190
    Craig @craig
    Emperor

    The introduction to eleven. I think this episode is genius considering the number of memorable characters that are introduced. Some episodes can have none. Not only does Moffat introduce a new Doctor brilliantly, he introduces the new companion, Amy, her younger self, Amelia, and, of course, Rory. Even the minor characters make an impact and make you think they might grow in to regulars.

    All that is done while telling a reasonably frenetic story – 20 minutes to save the planet! – which has laughs and scares aplenty. There is so much to enjoy, especially in the early scenes – fish fingers and custard – and the fact that Moffat takes away both of the Doctor’s mainstays, the TARDIS and the sonic. I think he was having a whale of a time.

    Moffat does re-use his “Look up your databanks and be scared of me” tactic that he had the Doctor use in “Forest of the Dead”, but for an introductory episode I’ll let him off, especially as the montage of Doctors helps give Matt an instant place in Who heritage.

    It really is one of Moffat’s finest hours. I’d like to think he pulls out his best when the pressure is on – this was his first episode as show runner and introduced a controversially young Doctor. I hope so, because there must be no greater pressure than the 50th Anniversary.

    #14198
    Craig @craig
    Emperor

    And one thing I probably wouldn’t have noticed if it hadn’t been for @juniperfish , almost everything in this episode is either red or blue without it being too obvious. Almost all of Amy’s house – blue walls, red and blue carpet, stained glass, the swings etc., little Amelia’s clothes, infact most of the characters are wearing red or blue or both, many of the cars and Rory even has a blue pen and a red pen in his pocket. Once you notice it, you can’t stop noticing it.

    It is definitely an artisitic decision. But why? Is it still something that hasn’t paid off? Like why does the duck pond have no ducks? 😀

    #14206
    Anonymous @

    @craig – it’s also worthwhile having a link to @bluesqueakpip ‘s blog discussing this episode and its allegory of the show’s history and the relationship of the audience to the show.

    #14211
    Bluesqueakpip @bluesqueakpip

    @Shazzbot – thanks for that.

    Yes, I said a lot in that blog entry, so I’ll just make a few points here. I remember watching this for the first time, in Hi Def. The colour palette and the detail were just astonishing; it’s a quite beautiful episode. I agree with @craig; there’s a definite red/blue palette being used. Jeff’s Gran’s house has a  purple/lilac palette (suitable for an old lady) – which of course is the red/blue colours, mixed to make purple. A lot of people are wearing some pink, and the hospital has a blue/green.

    Matt Smith ‘sold’ his Doctor the moment he popped his head out of the crashed TARDIS in little Amelia’s garden. No running in period; he just was the Doctor.

    Prisoner Zero, it can now be seen, is a metaphor for our ‘hidden’ Doctor. The one you can only see out of the corner of your eye, the one cut out of the succession, so that he has no number. He lives exactly where the Doctor never wants to look.

    And a very nice, tiny touch that shows the detail they were using on the Eleventh Doctor’s establishing story: in the final scene where Amy and the Doctor stand outside the TARDIS you can see the breath of both Amy and the Doctor misting with the night chill. But it’s far more visible for Amy than for the Doctor. Gallifreyans have a lower body temperature. 🙂

    #14257
    ScaryB @scaryb

    Lovely red/blue spot. (And where is @juniperfish these days…?)

    Another notable thing which worked in its favour – this episode is 65 mins long.  It’s packed, but it has time to breathe.

    #14289
    ScaryB @scaryb

    It’s been really interesting doing these retrospectives. It’s amazing how much you forget especially the ones pre Graun blog. Like how much you missed Tennant and at the same time thinking – How amazing is Matt Smith?!

    It’s a remarkable first episode (for both actor and showrunner), and as @bluesqueakpip says above – Matt  completely sold his Dr from the off. I really won’t be surprised if there are threads from this  looping into the 50th and/or the end of Matt’s tenure. Knowing that they picked up on young Amelia so much later on  adds poignancy.

    Watching again reminded me of the anomaly of Rory’s ID card – which also reminded me of the funny little anachromisms in the The Snowmen.

    It’s a bold statement of what Moffat wanted do with the show.

    BUT. 65 minutes. If that’s what he’s comfortable with, that’s what he should get!!

    #14310
    PhaseShift @phaseshift
    Time Lord

    Finally managed to catch up with this episode. I’ll just refer people to @bluesqueakpip s excellent blogpost again.

    I’ll confess over series 5 and 6 I probably watched this more than was healthy, looking at scenes other people referenced in theories etc. It was actually a minor joy to go back to it after the Amy storyline has finished and just watch it for pure entertainment and remember how it made me feel on first viewing.

    It’s certainly the best first episode for a Doctor I’ve seen, and it’s amazingly confident. The scenes with young Amelia are a delight. I can still pinpoint when my reservations about the youngest Doctor in history evaporated and I settled back to enjoy the show:

    Amelia: “I’m not scared.”
    The Doctor: “‘Course you’re not! You’re not afraid of anything. Box falls out of the sky, man falls out of the box, man eats fish custard. And look at you, just sitting there. So you know what I think.”
    Amelia: “What?”
    The Doctor: “Must be a hell of a scary crack in your wall.”

    To me, that exchange just felt like the Doctor talking. Over the next sixty odd minutes (and I’ll echo @scaryb here – that extra time let the episode breathe a little – It would have been interesting to see some episodes from series 7 be given the same treatment) Smith does an astonishing job in bouncing off new characters. It’s every bit as important as Rose to me, in that it shows this wasn’t a one-trick pony. No carryover from the last series, just extrapolation of ideas given a new spin with polished direction.

    It really is a great episode, and I hope 12 gets similar good fortune to begin with.

    As no-one has posted it yet, for your entertainment is the confidential for the episode “Call me the Doctor”.

    #14318
    janetteB @janetteb

    Like @phaseshift I have watched this episode “more than is healthy”. It stands up well to repeated rewatchings and even on rewatch six or seven is still fresh and engaging. It is on my list of top twenty favourite episodes. (I am still working on the list. Have it down to about 30 now.) Matt leaps into the role, even outdoing Baker’s performance in “Robot”. The cracking script gave him plenty to work with and Amy and Rory (or Karen and Arthur) made their characters instantly memorable. And best of all, the script was so packed with detail that a rewatch invariable brings some overlooked detail to light, (especially after watching the future episodes.)

    I was thinking of making this comment on the Showrunners thread but something that occurrred to me while rewatching SIL and FotD is that Moffat’s stories need to be re-watched in reverse. They tend to work in two directions. One doesn’t get the full story on first watch.

    Cheers

    Janette

     

    #14322
    Miapatrick @miapatrick

    Hi, bit late to this (damn wiki assignment…)

    This episode really made me fall in love with Doctor Who, set my mind to rest after concerns that the change in show runner would diminish my enjoyment of AG who (I didn’t at the time understand that Moffit had written Blink, TGITF, SITL etc) and completely sold me on Moffit and Eleven. And it told us, looking back, one part of Moffits plan for Who: it’s going to be beautiful to look at.

    Although Rory wasn’t presented as a inevitable mainstay, he is, here, when you look at it, perfect companion material. He notices something odd with the coma patients. Amy is the reason the doctor is there- but Rory is the one who provides the clue that comes to save the day. And the reason for this boils down to much of the wonderfulness of Rory- he cares enough about people, even ‘vegetables’, to really look at them and see them. He noticed what looked like the coma patients walking around the village, because he didn’t just see them as bodies in need of care in the hospital, he really saw them.

    The doctor uses his past and reputation to drive away the aliens again. Interesting that when ten did it in the library, he got a postponement, but when 11 did it, he got a full on retreat. I think this underlines the progression on ten near the end of his time, gradually turning into ‘River’s Doctor’ even before his regeneration.  (Of course when at the end of the series River tell the Dalek to look HER up, we discover, perhaps, the one thing even more terrifying than the doctor: his wife.)

    Inevitable cries of DEM, inevitably, I think, wrong. Rory with his camera phone is introduced right at the start, enables the Doctor to work out the puzzle, and is used at the end to help thwart prisoner zero.

    #16690
    Anonymous @

    Sorry I haven’t been on in awhile, but I decided to rewatch The Eleventh Hour.

    I can’t watch this episode without watching Tennant regenerate first or it just feels weird. This is actually my favorite episode from Doc #11.

    Can I have apple, apples I love apples: all I can think about.

    No Yog-urts my favorite, give me Yog-urt Get a girlfriend Jeff.

    #16693
    Anonymous @

    Oh and delete your Internet history.

    #18336
    Dorium.Maldovar @dorium-maldovar-2
    #23588
    Starth @starth

    I loved this show and so did my 6 year old lil girl ….so much so that i now need to try and find all the things for what young Amelia pond was wearing so i can get it for her to wear for comic con.I got the boots but i need to find a night gown,red jumper and suitcase like she had.If you have any idea where i could find those items please let me know.

    #55508
    TheBatGames @thebatgames

    I love this episode, but there is one thing I find worth pointing out that I’m surprised not many people picked up on, when asking the Atraxi, “Is this world protected?”. They show scenes from episodes that do not happen on Earth, like the Cybermen from the Parallel Earth in Age of Steel and Rise of the Cybermen; the Ood from the Satan Pit, Impossible Planet and Planet of the Ood; the Hath from the Doctor’s Daughter; the Vashta Nerada from the Forest of the Dead and Silence in the Library. They are still great scenes, but if they searched the World for these, how can it see things that happen in the future and not even on the world?

    #55511
    Anonymous @

    @thebatgames

    Hey! Welcome to the Forum. Good question!

    But yes the earth is protected. The Atraxi scan the actual ‘protector’ and recognise, pretty fast, that he’s an alien and looks after the earth in all its capacities -whether on Earth or on another planet. Possibly they have the ability to ‘know’ time travel or maybe they read the Doctor’s mind -I also think the Doctor ‘shows’ them what HE wants to show them? It’s canon that the Doctor can put thoughts into the minds of beings -and he could easily have done that. They would know by ‘scanning’ that what he’s thinking/seeing/communicating is actually true. Also, more importantly they scan him for previous doctor incarnations.

    If you like Doctor Who you might like to go to the Sofa or the Companions thread and maybe talk about what doctors you’ve liked; companions and favourite episodes.

    Enjoy this Forum.

    Cheers!

    #55512
    winston @winston

    @thebatgames  Hi !  Welcome the the site. I agree with @thane15 that the Doctor was showing the Atraxi what he wanted them to see. If you want someone to take you serious you show them all your best stuff. I really love this episode and our introduction to the 11th Doctor.

    #55514
    Anonymous @

    @thebatgames @winston

    Yeah, me too! I think right from the start I loved it -Mum says that often but as I was really young I have to rely on ‘knowing’ that -like the Atraxi! I was so sad about Tennant and that was the first time I cried about a show.

    Going back, I have loved Doctor 11 more than 10 (it’s a personal thing) and was astounded (amazed) that with 12 it could get even better.

    The change was good, though. 11 was friendly, preoccupied and always predicting what would happen next. Also, he seemed so old. I have a poster/frame of 11 in my room. The light under it brings out the Doctor’s amazing face. I’ll never get tired of Mat Smith’s Doctor -considering he was a young guy and Tennant was and is a stage actor, I didn’t think it could get better -and it did.

    Optimism is the ticket Dad says.

    #55534
    ichabod @ichabod

    @thane15  It got better, I think, because its creators got more ambitious, seeing the potentialities in growing it up a bit (well, by the time AG rolled around, there were all these grown-ups out there in the viewership who’d started watching as kids and were now — some of them — looking for — what?  More bones under the meat?  More developed depths?

    Come on, April, where the heck are you?!!!

    #67152
    winston @winston

    This Christmas my son got me a set of all of Matt Smiths episodes as the 11th Doctor and I finally got time to do a major re-watch.  I just watched The Eleventh Hour and it was so very good! I forgot how much I enjoyed the episode that introduced us to a new Doctor and 2 new companions. A little girl praying to Santa hears that wheezing sound followed by a crash in the garden and thinks that Santa has answered her prayers and he has. There is the poor old Tardis on her side and smoking badly when the doors fly open and a hand appears followed by another and then that face pops up. It is a young wonderful ,silly face with old eyes. Out hops our raggedy man, soaking wet from the pool and wearing 10s ripped clothes ,craving apples and wanting to help a little girl with a crack in her wall. Fantastic!

    Everything about this episode made me happy and who doesn’t want to be happy? I am looking forward to cold winter nights so I can curl up with a fluffy blanket and watch series 5,6 and 7.

    #67153
    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @winston

    Absolutely! The Eleventh Hour has to be one of the most perfect episodes they did. It has everything. Wonder, magic, hope, excitement, adventure…Like you, I loved it. And even out here on the relatively balmy west coast, Doctor Who isn’t complete–at this time of the year–without a blanket.

     

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