• soundworld replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @pedant Perhaps a little Glasnost on Gallifrey will make it a more interesting place, with fewer daft costumes. It can only be a matter of time before they enter the Eurovision Song Contest…

    Thats given me a great mental image – ha!
    No wonder the Doctor left rather than hang around that lot.  In the words of King Arthur on Camelot ‘It is a si…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Bluesqueakpip

    I’m not sure that our interpretations are all that far apart, and maybe I didn’t express my ideas very well.  I do think, though, that it is unlikely that all trace of Clara, who was threaded through his whole timeline since he first left Gallifrey, and had been a hugely important part of two of his lives, could be completely r…[Read more]

  • tardigrade replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @rob

    Also during Rasillon’s visit to the barn he stated…..

    How many regenerations did we give you, I’ve got all day

    Strongly suggesting a more than just another full set

    Or possibly less. The terminology used at the time was giving him a new cycle of regenerations, from which you’d initially think 12. But if you remember the circums…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @bluesqueakpip

    Ah. So the message you want Moffat to send to millions of small viewers is to not aspire?

    That is a message that exists only in your imagination. There is a world of a difference between “bad luck” and “an accident waiting to happen”. Believing your are something you are not does not make it so and creates all-too-foreseeable…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Hell Bent

    @Whisht

     

    I like your idea about the Tardis settings  very much!!  I  thought maybe

    Clara chose that place for the Doctor since he had spent time previously

    with his ‘Earth’ family in it  so therefore it might give to him some subliminal

    comfort?   Your take of morphing into a relatable concept is terrific!

     

  • ichabod replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @tardigrade  It occurred to me that the Doctor’s time in the confession dial could be seen as a possible fulfilment of the hybrid prophecy. He’s destroyed a billion hearts (actually more like a trillion), it’s just that instead of it being a genocide, it was suicide – he’s been knocking them off two at a time and they were all his own. And, as wi…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @Whisht

    Judgment sounds excellent!

    I’m afraid I lost track a bit of the Tarot  tracking     🙁        But I did find it fascinating!

     

    Seems to me that folks/aliens are predisposed to having survival instincts.   And yes.

    You need that motivating force.  Maybe its even another superpower?

     

  • Juniperfish replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @Whisht

    Oh, never fear, I believe I may have ranted about the tarot a bit in BBC Approved Spoilers 🙂 and had a bit of a chat with @Phaseshift and @Kharis and others in there on the subject, where we mused on the cyclical nature of the tarot journey, which fits in rather nicely with all the snake (ouroboros) imagery.

    Yes, Heaven Sent could be…[Read more]

  • Mersey replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @whisht

    Oh, I dream about the day when I ‘ll be the one who’ll tell the others something new and interesting and amazing and true but I’m afraid that day has not yet come.

    This painting looks like a mix of an old poster and an old carpet.

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @nerys @puroandson   I also thought it was the same coat. How it got there the first time, however, is a bit puzzling. Maybe a second viewing will help me there.

    @Miapatrick  A lot of people in t’other place claim an inconsistency that he took the long way and then confessed. I think in fact that is very doctor- assuming what he said when he got…[Read more]

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    Well, that reading took awhile!  🙂  So much to comment on and think about. First of all, some wonderfully eloquent writing about the heights and depths to which we were taken with this episode. Succinctly summed up by @PhaseShift:   I wish more TV could dare to be this different.   Yes, indeed. And yes, not only arc-heavy but mytho…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @CountScarlioni                 @Whisht               @Mersey

     

    Thanks for all the prints and images!   It occurred to me that last week we had Diagon Alley

    and this week we saw Hogwarts when the stair cases move around.   I’m sure the Potter fans

    loved that!

    I’ve been also thinking about Clara being always in his head.   She is his conscie…[Read more]

  • CountScarlioni replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @whisht   Flammarion’s woodcut and moving between worlds. Now there’s a point to think about! Thanks so much for that. That image suggested another, the painting of Dante’s Inferno, with celestial spheres above to carry the planets and beyond the outer sphere of the stars is heaven, souls descending into hell, and the upward journey of a soul…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @jphamlore  I am sure Moffat did not intend this, but with the extreme suffering depicted that the Doctor underwent for billions of years, for me, the Doctor has paid in full for his actions in The Zygon Inversion. Thank you, Steven Moffat.

    I’m not sure what you refer to as apparently blameworthy actions by the Doctor in “Inversion”, partly…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Heaven Sent

    @Whisht  Oh, brilliant catch re the Flammarion engraving!. The old idea of a clockwork universe of concentric spheres.

    The recurrent clockwork imagery in connection with the Time Lords is intriguing. In the Day of the Doctor, what we could see of the inner workings of the Moment, as it appeared when the War Doctor originally uncovered it in the b…[Read more]

  • ichabod replied to the topic Face The Raven

    @soundworld  At first I was stunned and maybe disappointed that her death came about through something so seemingly random, but, it really works. Just another day with the Doctor – but it could happen on any day.

    Exactly; this is what she’s basically agreed to by traveling in the Tardis; it could happen to the Doctor that way too (except then th…[Read more]

  • Frobisher replied to the topic Spoilers (2)

    SPOILER, SPOILER, SPOILER...

  • TheBrainOfMoffat replied to the topic Face The Raven

    @jphamlore Hm, I thought the Ood we saw with the Cyberman was a “man” doing some repairs or modifications to him. No idea what the wife was.

    @ichabod In the Series 2 episode in which Ten and Rose went to Pete’s world, as well as in Death in Heaven, we saw a Cyberman’s emotional inhibitor thing deactivated, revealing what was left of the original…[Read more]

  • bendubz11 replied to the topic Face The Raven

    @Whisht ah yes, that may indeed be it. As for death energy being used to bring Gallifrey back, we’ve already seen something very similar this series. Ashildr/Me was involved in that as well.

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Face The Raven

    @Whisht

    #47629 – Post. Of. The. Year. All other entrants give up now.

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