The Reality War

[WhoHar @whohar]

@scaryb

My theory about Billie is that she may be a temporary interim Doctor till the future becomes clearer.

I make that 3 theories now:

1. @jimthefish ‘s Interface theory

2. Your interim Doc theory

3. My she’s The Moment theory.

To which I’d add something I briefly saw online:

4. She’s a version of Bad Wolf.

and another thought:

5. She’s another version of Idris from The Doctor’s Wife.

Hopefully it won’t just be clickbait casting.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

Billie Piper?

I actually think she’ll be the Doctor for a while. Don’t know how long cos I’m not sure where the program is going. Definitely NOT 7 seasons, most unlikely to be 4.

I think Russ is keen to show to the world how a Ladydoc moves, therefore he forklifts in Whitdoc to say ‘hiya! Bye!’ Essentially. This is exhibit A. And now exhibit B. How much do we like Jo Martin because she was one of Chib’s few genuinely fresh (if cursorily explored) ideas, AND also she wasn’t Jodie? Nothing against Jodie but that ship has sailed.

Because you can’t have broken Ladydocs for ever and ever and ever. That is AN EPIC FAIL. Sorry. Makes a complete nonsense of everything the show stands for. Got to fix it and soon. Therefore three specials is not going to do. Got to be 1 whole series at the absolute minimum.

Not saying it wasn’t a shock though. It’s one of thosr inevitable hindsights.

I imagine (?) Billie knows her career is less high profile than Tennant and Gatwa’s, and that casting gets tougher later on. Ecclestone only lasted a year; he didn’t like the way the industry treated Kate Hardie and wasn’t going to put up with Noel. And he DID NOT have to stick around.

A great many big names may not fancy the job as much as they would say 15 years ago. But maybe the rising stars you really want, your Tennants and Smiths won’t either, cos of the issues post Moff.

Whether Russ’ ability to deliver is as towering as his supreme confidence, I dunno. Who would step into Disney’s shoes without making some content stipulations – having seen the last 2 series? That also goes for The Corporation. A lot of this rides on the spinoff.

Hmmm. Do you think The Mouse did not like the look of it?

 

 

[Juniperfish @juniperfish]

@scaryb – dammit! I now have the song, and the expression “What a load of dugga-doo” stuck in my head 🙂

On yours and @whohar ‘s mention of “hasty rewrites” – yes, when you think about the first Gatwa series and how much it focussed on the Doctor and Ruby both being abandoned and adopted children, I wonder if Poppy was planned out, at the beginning, to be the Doctor and Ruby’s (presumed) child and Millie Gibson’s departure as the main companion also required rewrites that derailed a more coherent arc about changelings. The Gatwa era, like the Ecclestone era, does feel as if it had a bumpy road behind the scenes.

I like all the theories about who Billie Piper could be, if not the next incarnation of the Doctor, from @whohar @scaryb and @jimthefish .

I’m with  @ps1l0v3y0u that she will be the next Doctor. I do hope she is, because I’d love to see what she does with the part. She was excellent as Rose, but since then Piper has grown into her craft (she was incredible in the adaptation of Lorca’s Yerma) and I’d like to see her given the freedom to use the full range of her abilities as our Time Lord, rather than playing some kind of interim placeholder character as Rose/Badwolf/Moment/Tardis-incarnation on a mission to save the Doctor.

Just to throw another theory into the mix though for fun though… what if she is the Valeyard?

With Tenant2-Doc still knocking about in London, thanks to the bi-generation, if Piper-Doc was the Valeyard that could make for a terrific series where the Doctor has to thwart a rogue version of himself, but one who, for shits and giggles, is wearing the face of the woman he loved.

A couple of articles related to Gatwa’s tenure caught my eye, as it’s Pride Month:

This one in Pink News in which Gatwa talks about his relationship with Who fans and dealing with racist and homophobic abuse from some quarters:

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/11/14/ncuti-gatwa-doctor-who-racism-homophobia/

And this rather lovely one on the BBC about LGBT fans of Doctor Who:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04edqyzlv2o

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@juniperfish

Billie as Valeyard. Hmmm

I have been predicting the V man for a while, on the back of:

Vlinx

Villengard

REG in the scan; Simeon is still in The Doctors timeline.

And The Great Library (with its own nifty and inhabited VR) might be a super Data Slice to get it all off the ground

Because it’s all weird, isn’t it? It ain’t real. Sutekh wasn’t a god so much as a backward dog.

I thought V might come from 14, however, yes it might easily be 15/16. But 14 accepted Vlinx straight off… also mavity and the pantheon from the wild blue yonder.

I even postulated that a VR might have started (or be retconned) earlier… with absolutely no evidence cos, unless I’m bedridden for weeks I’m never going to watch t’floox. But could t’floox or the Cyberman Ascension (both being barking mad) be the start of a virtual Universal Rewrite? A Cyberium that wanted to ditch it’s organic component would be very interested in top notch VR. And the Great Intelligence (or Architect) might find Cybermooks much more useful than Snowmen, Yetis or Wifi.

So 14 or 15/16? There was also the torture of Kid?! What the hell hero? That can’t just go away.

So we’re all thinking (and we were, weren’t we?)… 14 meets 16: ahhh like Badwolf Bay is back and four hearts beat as one… but 14 or 16 or both could just look at each other and justifiably go urghhh!?? Like 2&3. Or one might say to the other, you are Simeon and I claim £5!

Re Gatwa and the bonehead backlash, as far as this site is concerned, it seemed almost absent this year. Not sure what that means. Certainly not that they’ve gone away.

[winston @winston]

@ps1l0v3y0u     I would also like to see what Billie would be like as the Doctor even if it was just for a series or some specials. I just worry that RTD is playing with us and it turns out differently.

I  saw Chris Eccleston on a panel on youtube and when asked who should be the Doctor he said Billie Piper. He thought it would drive us all (fans) crazy trying to figure out why.This was awhile back and he was joking but here we are.

Well if 14 and 16 met face to face it would be it would be freakier for 14 as he is looking at the face of Rose , a women he loved. The 16th on the other hand is just looking at a very skinny past version of herself. The banter ensues.

I think that Anita’s Boss is Susan and that she created the Time Hotel to keep an eye on her Grandfather. I think the other bad Boss might be the Master or Missy but through the day I think of a lot of stuff and not all of it makes sense.

stay sane

[TranslatorCircuit @translatorcircuit]

The season finale! The final part of a two part story which takes up 25% of the whole series because it was reduced to only 8 episodes thanks to Disney Plus.

It featured a star studded lineup, including Ruby, Kate Lethbridge-Stewart, both current versions of The Rani, and The Thirteenth Doctor.

I think this episode was better than all the previous episodes of this year.

The Rani somehow brings back Omega. I think this counts as a continuity error because Omega has been totally annihilated TWICE before in “The Three Doctors” and “Arc of Infinity”, both times involving anti matter, so that sounded quite final. The writers made up an alternative or additional story about Omega being banished instead of falling into a black hole, which they think somehow explains this, but it actually doesn’t. It sounds more like this version of Omega was created by a wish. I also thought the latest version of Omega as some kind of skeleton looked really awful!

The Doctor and The Rani reveal that The Time Lords and The Doctor lost their ability to have children when Gallifrey was attacked in The Time War. The Doctor said in last year’s series that although he had a Granddaughter, this didn’t mean he had kids, or at least “not yet”. I think this sounds like Susan travelled back in time to first meet The Doctor. However, I read years ago that Time Lords’ time streams are all somehow synchronised together, so in that case it wouldn’t be possible. The meeting between The Doctor and The Master seem to be always in sync, while The Doctor and River Song were travelling in opposite directions through time.

It was very interesting that Susan Triad somehow built a Zero Room, because that’s Time Lord technology, so I’d like to know how that was possible. Kate Lethbridge-Stewart said just before The Doctor left the UNIT Building that they had various equipment which sounded similar to Time Lord technology, but this wasn’t explained either.

This episode is longer than any of the rest, creating some suspense for me wondering what was going to happen. There was some time left, instead of just a few minutes, after The Rani and Conrad had been defeated. I’d heard a few rumours about Ncuti Gatwa leaving soon and even regenerating in this episode, but I didn’t know what to believe, so this was good. I was very sad to see Ruby leave.

The Doctor had already been drained of a lot of regeneration energy in “Lux”, so I was worried he might die altogether. Where did get all this spare energy that he fired into the TARDIS console?

Of course, The Doctor finally regenerated after expending all that regeneration energy. The question is how did he manage to save enough energy to achieve this, though?

Finally, I saw a female face appear, still surrounded by regeneration energy. She said “Oh, Hello!” In what sounded to me like an Australian accent, although I’m from London. After that, I saw in the credits that it was Billie Piper.

Of course, it leaves me very puzzled about what will happen to Doctor Who after this. I’m disgusted that the series has been cut down to only 8 episodes per year (not counting Christmas Specials) since Disney Plus got involved. Various sources are now saying that unless a new series is “commissioned” more or less immediately, then there won’t be “enough time” to produce a series to show next year. It’s obvious to me that this is mainly to do with special effects, but I think that the commissioning should be more or less automatic, like with the classic series, as well as NuWho in 2005-2008. They didn’t seem to have these problems in those days. In 2009, we had David Tennant abandoning the series to go off and play Shakespeare, ending his era with four specials, then some more gap years with other Doctors after that, cheating us out of FIVE years’ worth of series in twenty years! Of course, AFAIK Eastenders, Strictly, and Casualty have never been affected like this. I think that Doctor Who should cut down on the amount of special effects to the levels of 2005-2008 and concentrate on making some more episodes, which also means more than 8 per series, immediately! I read recently that at some time during the classic series the way they produced episodes was spending about 75 minutes filming each 25 minute episode, and only completing some stories a few weeks before they were due to be shown. I also heard recently that the two latest series of Doctor Who were filmed back to back, so this seems to mean that 16 episodes were available last year, but Disney Plus delayed the release of the final 8 for a whole year to fit in with their marketing plans!

Some people think that Doctor Who needs to spend AGES on special effects to compete with other series, but these special effects now seem to be preventing any more episodes being made!

To sum up, I hate what the BBC and Disney Plus have been doing. I think all other series on BBC TV are crap, and the BBC need to sort themselves out NOW!

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

Of course the other aspects of Rose are:

She was briefly possessed by Lady Cassandra… so she may have insight into reality that 15 didn’t.

She doesn’t have a link to Unit does she? That emerged in series 4. Perhaps she will actually point at The V’linx and say ‘what the flipping hell is that?’ Or ‘er… so who runs your recruitment?’

Having faced off with the inadequate creep from The Impossible Planet, who thought it was a good idea to scribble his face with sharpies, she might not believe every dodgy bit of CGI is sacred, divine and/or demonic.

She may still know where Elton Pope hangs out. What better way to distract The Great Architect than crack his skull open with a concrete slab?

 

 

 

[JimTheFish @jimthefish Time Lord]

@juniperfish —

Billie as Valeyard — yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if this is what happens. It strikes me that they’ve wanted to the Valeyard story for a while but the essential problem with it is that if you do it in terms of the rough A to B to C Doctor chronology then you essentially have to take the Doctor out of the equation as a character. Or at least you did until bi-generation became a thing. Perhaps as you say we’ll see 14 brought out of retirement to face down Billie’s Valeyard and this will result in the regeneration into 16. (Where did I see the suggestion (on Reddit maybe?) that such a scenario could end with them merging in a co-generation to produce the next Doc, which is an idea I kind of like and does sound exactly like the sort of thing that RTD2 might come up with.)

But the more I think of it, the more I think I would just like BP to do a stint as the Doctor. There are awkardnesses to it, sure, but nothing insurmountable and I think she’d bring something really interesting to the part. Besides which, I think there’s been far too much over-reliance on regeneration gimmickry for quite some time now (since late Moffat even). I seem to remember in the Classic show regeneration was never mentioned outside of the actual regeneration stories — it was just a concept dusted down for the mechanics of those stories and then shelved again. That’s the way it should be, I think as to keep bringing it up does tend to undercut the current incumbent — they become merely a Doctor instead of the Doctor. Let Billie be the Doctor and for a decent while with no crossovers, no mentions of regeneration energy or Timeless Children or anything of the sort.

[Devilishrobby @devilishrobby]

@jimthefish one of the problems I have with BP being the Valeyard is I’m unfortunately old enough (and plenty more) to remember the travesty that was Trialof a Timelord season (ok maybe some of the stories weren’t that bad) but if memory serves me correctly the Master stated that the Valeyard was the distillation of all that is dark and bad about the Doctor also implied that he was a single incarnation , I actually  thought at the time that Michael James (Jayston) would have made a perfect replacement for AnthonyAinsley  as the Master and the Story would have been much better if he had actually turned out to be a future incarnation of the Master. But  getting back to my thoughts about BP being the Valeyard  if she did turn out to be the V that means there would be at least 2 incarnations of the Doctor that were bad. Of course  with Michael Jayston having died just last year they would need extensive CGI to accomplish that though it’s not impossible I suppose, but it wouldn’t really match existing cannon. I suppose RTD has shown he can ignore cannon when it’s convenient for him but I don’t think he would do it to BP. I’m more inclined to believe she’s some kind of inter regeneration thing.

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@devilishrobby @jimthefish @juniperfish

Valeyard… Villengard (and therefor their ‘Shell Company’ Harmony Shoal?) Vlinx:

We have limited knowledge of The Valeyard incarnation… basically he’s incarnation 12+

We have limited knowledge of The Master’s incarnations because Who Narrative follows The Doctor’s timeline. So:

? > Delgado > ?

? > Darwan (wielding the TCE) > ?

? > Hot Smoked Master > Tremas > ?

? > Movie Master > ?

? > Yana  > Saxon > ? Missy was pretty non comittal about the Colony Ship experience you must agree.

? > Missy > ? She looked doomed on Skaro. Pre Movie Master was executed on Skaro. She also showed Clara you could charge a teleport with a death ray. So why not Saxon’s laser screwdriver? She was last seen on a ship full of Cybermen. Then turns up on Earth with an army of Cybermen.

It may be tricky to get INTO the Time War, but not impossible. It shouldn’t be a problem to go prior to the Time War (bearing in mind we don’t know when it is) so long as you don’t cross your own timestream. Tremas MUST have knowledge from post Time War and ostensibly preferred doomed Fatdoc to The Valeyard, who MUST have been post Time War himself cos that works for post 12 even if we’re counting Hurtdoc. Ruth might be problematic because we don’t know when, how or why.

So Tremas AND the Valeyard went pre Time War, knowing they could get away with it so long as they didn’t mention The War. In other words we COULD be about to get an early Valeyard… could be 14 or 16 or more probably REG… then they make a really good VR of which the Rani’s is a shonky echo. Later on JaystonV cooks up 6’s trial (using VR) cos 6 is such fat sweaty git and bound to get sent down.

As to why REGV? Simeon is still in The Doctor’s timeline. 11 only rescued Clara. Might be some bootstrapping going on to turn The Doctor in the VR after which REGV as Great Intelligence or Great Architect, retro designs the VR.

If you can’t thwart The Doctor then become him. But you might want a bigger flow chart.

[WhoHar @whohar]

@all,

It strikes me that all this talk about Billie Piper, entertaining as it is and allowing for much bonkers theorising as it does, actually does a bit of a disservice to Gatwa’s tenure. All the Internet is talking about right now is BP’s appearance in the last ten seconds of an hour-long episode. Nothing about the outgoing Doc’s tenure, as would be usual. This mirrors, to some extent, the way Gatwa’s doc was somewhat undermined by the bi-generation, and the corollary that Doc 14 was still around and (presumably) could return at any time.

I think RTD really (I mean really) wanted Gatwa in the role but, due to his unavailability, RTD came up with workarounds to allow this to happen (return of Tennant for the 60th Specials, bi-gen, Doctor-lite episodes), perhaps without thinking through the consequences. When the ratings tanked and Disney got cold feet re the renewal then, given the uncertainty, Gatwa (rightly) decided to move on to protect his career. This resulted in a somewhat panicked RTD calling up Piper to fill the void in some way TBD, and here we are.

I could, of course, be way off here and RTD has a (ahem) Masterplan, which he is adapting on-the-fly but I don’t think this is the case.

Just my 2c.

 

[janetteB @janetteb]

@whohar  well said. I think you are correct. Also bringing back B.P. has made headlines, and all publicity is good publicity as the old adage goes. so maybe RTD is endeavouring to pull off another Dr Who rescue. He says he has scripts written for another series. He is determined, I think, to make that happen with or without disney. cynical, yes. Desperate, yes. Will it work, maybe. I hope it does because if that is what it takes to keep the series going then so be it. I want more Doctor Who.

I also agree that there has not been enough discussion of Gatwa’s tenure which was rather comet like, bright but brief. He did not have nearly enough time but he made the most of that time. He made an impression from the outset, he owned the role whereas I often feel that other actors take time to really get their personal stamp on it. N.C. was the Doctor. I am glad that there are some wonderful episodes from these last two series that will be re watched in this house at least. Every actor that has ever been the Doctor will always be the Doctor.

cheers

Janette

[nerys @nerys]

Somewhat related to the discussion of regenerations and Gatwa’s too-brief tenure as the Doctor:

I watched a video of all the regenerations and was reminded of how melodramatic they tend to be. On first viewing, that’s fine, but subsequent viewings don’t carry as much emotional weight for me.

I was also reminded of another even shorter tenure: Paul McGann. After having seen the TV movie in which he played the Doctor, I was grateful that it was a one-off. But then I saw “The Night of the Doctor” that set him up for John Hurt’s War Doctor, and McCann was so good that I lamented him getting such short shrift.

Of course, Hurt’s tenure as the Doctor was brief … but it was meant to be.

[Whisht @whisht]

So many good thoughts re: GatDoc’s tenure and how it might have been overshadowed by the stunt at the end (“Billie Piper!”) although that stunt might have been more knowing (please invest in another season) rather than “this would be cool!”.

You’re all also better at understanding the past storylines etc so I’ll just bonkerise without guardrails.

IF BillieRegen were the Moment (again), could she be a warning/ conscience for GatDoc for creating a universe ‘even a degree’ off?
Isn’t that a form of annihilation that the Moment might have wrought?

GatDoc might agree.
Kindly as a genie-sque character she might give him 3 wishes, one of which is that Poppy might live as a child, if not his daughter.
(the other two wishes might be… I’ll come back to maybe).
If so he might thank the Moment/Regen/Billie and say “you’re right. I don’t deserve this face”

Regeneration into….

BillieDoc.
Huh?
OMG She was the Moment for a Moment and now is actually the Doctor for a season!!

All our strings are pulled.

RTD3…

;¬)

[nerys @nerys]

@whisht OMG She was the Moment for a Moment and now is actually the Doctor for a season!!

Oh, I like that!

[Miapatrick @miapatrick]

Hi guys been a while, been trying not to avoid and procrastinate other work, but I had to come here just to say – could Piper be the Tardis? Another kind of physical incarnation of the Tardis? Rose looked into its heart and almost died as a result, could there be some kind of an imprint made? Sort of related to what he was doing that caused him to die?

 

(As well as, you know, placeholder, stunt casting, they haven’t decided yet etc).

 

 

[syzygy @thane16]

@miapatrick good to hear from you! Hope you’re well.

I like that idea: Rose as Tardis. People have speculated that there’s something in the way she says “hello.” She’s thrilled and intrigued rather than freaked out. Nor is she in any pain- as we’ve seen in most regens? I was just rewatching 11th Hour and that particular regen had a lot of yelling!

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

@miapatrick

could Piper be the Tardis?

That is an inspired idea! I opens up all sorts of possibilities for how the new Doctor deals with their new found appearance, character, etc.

Champion bonkerizing!

[janetteB @janetteb]

Love the bonkerising. Sadly I fear the reality will be far more mundane. I would settle for BP guesting for a Christmas Special then handing over after next year. I suspect that N.G left with little warning leaving the need for a hurried regen’ and BP offered to do the honours. I just hope that the writers are reading this thread for ideas of how to progress narratively because the bonkers theories are always better.

cheers

Janette

 

[WhoHar @whohar]

@janetteb

Agree with your analysis, I think that is exactly what’s happened.

@miapatrick <hello, welcome back> @blenkinsopthebrave

I suggested in an earlier post that Piper might be another version of Idris from The Doctor’s Wife, so similar to your Tardis idea.  I hope this is what pans out on screen as it’s the most palatable option, for me at least.

[blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave]

@whohar

Sorry that I missed your post on Billie Piper as the Tardis. It must have been a second glass of wine scan on my part…

But, also champion bonkerizing!

[Miapatrick @miapatrick]

@thane16 Hi, thank you! and ish.

Yes the ‘hello’ really struck me. There’s usually a moment of confusion – though not so much I think with Fifteen? But at least, maybe a sense of being newborn. She was more as though she’d stepped through something.

@blenkinsopthebrave – yup, when I thought it, I thought I knew the lot that would appreciate it!

@janetteb – yes, I wish for once they really would. I’m never really disappointed with a RTD finale to be fair because my expectations of him are generally – intriguing set up, slightly frustrating landing. Not that there arent’ holes to pick in Moffat’s, or that I don’t think there have been better endings offered here for his series, but they’re more satisfying for me.

@whohar – excellent company to be in.

And to be honest I hadn’t formed the Piper-Tardis theory till I saw Reality War. I just felt a shiver of resemblance, the importance of ‘hello’, as well as Piper bathed in regeneration light – and also, to be honest, what reason would annoy me least- might I actually like. Because there’s a canon explanation right there, Rose has been exposed to the Tardis energy, which the Doctor has then taken on, and he’s just used his own regeneration energy to manipulate the time vortex. It’s more meaningfully full circle than just ‘featuring Billie Piper’. And it will be the second time Piper has played someone/thing else with Billie’s face.

None of this means it’ll happen, if anything its a fairly neat and logical explanation, which means ….

 

overall, this series of all series present the problems for readers when a work is still ‘live’. All the intertextual connections we can make, the stories we can create out of the material are just there to be – completely contradicted by the next instalment. But sometimes the formation of the bonkers theories is fun enough for its own sake. And these are works that make us want to interact with them. Especially when Doctor Who draws on so a large and varied intertext as the huge body of work that comes before it, with which we all have our own personal responses.

 

I am a little upset about Rogue, though. Did he just burn through an entire River arc in one episode (the first time they meet he A: tries to kill him then B: dramatically sacrifices his life for him)? Or will he get his night in Darillium?

[ps1l0v3y0u @ps1l0v3y0u]

@miapatrick
As opposed to the idea that a hypothetical ‘Rosedoc’ mimics a personification of The Tardis, like Idris or The Moment Interface, could it actually be the other way round? Who has actually looked onto the Heart of The Tardis?

Moviemaster

Slitheen Woman

And Rose… I think we know which one was preferred by the Blue Box. So was Rose kept as a template, influencing the possessed character of Idris and rippling into the conscience of The Moment?

If we assume The Doctor’s relationship with The Tardis is almost symbiotic (when the Doctor has a problem The Cloister Bell tolls) then he/she might be as amenable to a ‘Rose Shape’ as Lady Cassandra was.

Rogue… I think a lot of what we’ve seen in these two series are echoes of The Doctor’s history: an attempt to ground and build the VR around him. But there is feedback. Rogue isn’t safe in a nice VR… it’s hell. In rescuing Rogue will The Doctor actually regain River? If the VR is very very good. The virtual opposite of ‘what happens if you die in Real Life?’

[WhoHar @whohar]

@miapatrick

Because there’s a canon explanation right there, Rose has been exposed to the Tardis energy, which the Doctor has then taken on, and he’s just used his own regeneration energy to manipulate the time vortex.

I like this very much. Well done.

[winston @winston]

After thinking on the last series and after 15s sudden regeneration I am sad to see him go before we really got to know him. He is the mysterious Doctor to me, almost a stranger. There were times  when he was angry that I thought “the Doctor is in there” but other times I struggled to see them. He also made me tear up more than any of them but then I am a professional support crier. You cry and I’ll cry. He also had a very beautiful and engaging smile. Maybe he is the charming Doctor.

My biggest regret for 15s time as the Doctor is that he never got to face any daleks. He would have been great!

My bonkers theory is that Rose has used the energy created by the regen or the time shift to come through to the Doctors current location because she needs his help. That’s why it looks like she walks through all the shiny stuff and says “Hello”. I think she is our Rose and that she is greeting a Doctor we haven’t met yet. Wow that hurts the brain.

stay sane.

[janetteB @janetteb]

@winston I like your bonkers theory too. That would be a good way to introduce an as yet to be cast Doctor. I hear via the rumour mill of kids following on line rumour mills that RTD is desperately trying to get financing for another series. He might well be using Billie Piper as leverage, though in what capacity probably doesn’t matter so much.  (I just do hope he looks in on this forum occasionally and picks up ideas, if not he is missing out on a goldmine)

cheers

Janette

 

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