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ichabod replied to the topic Under The Lake
@cathannabel And one of my top books ever (and one which relates to my actual research thus justifying me looking up stuff about it on a research day), W G Sebald’s Austerlitz, refers to the drowned village of Llanwddyn, submerged under the Vyrnwy reservoir.
I am a sucker for stories about that, too — do you know Reginald Hill’s “On Beulah He…[Read more]
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10 years, 10 months ago - View
janetteB replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)
@CathAnnabel Captain Wentworth is the man and he is certainly the most believable of Austen’s heroes. I love Persuasion equally as much as P&P for quite different reasons. I am adamant that there should be a copy of the later in the first aid box. It is my go to book in a crisis. I credit Mrs Bennett with helping save my life. She does more for an…[Read more]
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10 years, 10 months ago - View
janetteB replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)
@stellaluce333 Most fiction of that time had central female characters regardless of the authors gender though as there was a high percentage of female writers a lot of fiction is very much written from a female perspective. Dickens was however in many respects a progressive particularly in regards to social commentary. His works did draw public…[Read more]
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10 years, 10 months ago - View
Arbutus replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)
@bluesqueakpip @CathAnnabel @Miapatrick
Here’s the thing about all these characters that annoy us, with whom we wouldn’t want to have tea, want to slap, etc. They are fully realized and realistic characters, each in their own way “psychologically credible”, drawn from real life. The writers are all insightful enough to understand how people…[Read more]
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10 years, 10 months ago - View
Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic On The Sofa (7)
I want to slap Esther Summerson every time I read Bleak House – for god’s sake woman enough with the ‘little me’ crap, and sort yerself out!
Esther’s a bit like Fanny Price in Mansfield Park. But I think the characterisation is psychologically credible; both characters are the ‘poor relation’. Dependent for their upbringing and sur…[Read more]
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10 years, 10 months ago - View
Arbutus replied to the topic The Parting of the Ways
@CathAnnabel Ha. You’ve nailed exactly how I felt about the shift from Ten to Eleven. The problem then became one of feeling maternal about the Doctor, which is no good either! 🙂
I like your thoughts about Rose. I haven’t watched Series 1 in a very long time, and should do it at some point. Also Mickey; his personal growth trajectory was…[Read more]
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10 years, 11 months ago - View
Craig replied to the topic Website comments (2)
@cathannabel Just for you 🙂
I haven’t added any pics or any real commentary. Will leave that up to you.
Craig
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10 years, 11 months ago - View
PhaseShift replied to the topic The Unquiet Dead
Are we filling in the blanks for Doctor 9? Hell yes, good suggestion @cathannabel.
I watched this in the run up to Christmas for the first time in a Marathon of Chrimble episodes. For the first time I counted this one in the Christmas specials. It isn’t one, but it is. Watching it, I couldn’t help thinking that the early rushes of this may have…[Read more]
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10 years, 11 months ago - View
George Bailey replied to the topic Website comments (2)
Hi @cathannabel You’re not dim. Only the mods can start new topics. It’s something I instigated from the start to keep interaction focused, and save us from having to merge a thousand similar topics into one every day.
I’ve started a thread for The Unquiet Dead. Look forward to your contribution. It’s actually one of my faves, and I think it’s…[Read more]
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10 years, 11 months ago - View
The Krynoid Man replied to the topic The End of the World
@cathannabel Thank you.
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11 years, 2 months ago - View
Craig replied to the topic Death in Heaven
@JimTheFish @CathAnnabel @DenValdron
I’ve been a bit busy with other things (working on a new social network for a friend… thinks he’s going to be the next Mark Zuckerberg) so have taken my eye off the ball recently. For that I apologise. And for the lack of a Peter Davison episode this weekend. Will be one next weekend. Promise.
Den, the kool…[Read more]
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11 years, 2 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, I walk with heroes. This is my power. Not to let them take me. Not me. Angel Season Five.
@cathannabel and @purofilion—
Shiny. And thanks for the kind words.
Alright, let’s crack on with Firefly then. I’m only one or two episodes in at the moment but already I’m struck by just how sparkling the […]
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. It’s harsh, and it’s cruel. But that’s why there’s us. Angel Season Four
@cathannabel — I’d definitely agree. It does get rather chaotic with a rather breathless childish ‘and then this happens, and then this happens and then that happens’ element to the plot. But it really was def […]
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, The trust is gone. Don’t be using my phrases when the trust is gone. Angel Season Three
@purofilion and @cathannabel @everyone — happy St Paddy’s Day – in honour of the undead’s most unconvincing Irishman…
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, The trust is gone. Don’t be using my phrases when the trust is gone. Angel Season Three
@cathannabel — thanks for the comment anyway. Yeah, it’s really tough to write about this season without drifting into the next. They’re both so tightly bound up with each other. Whenever I hear people bitching […]
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do – Angel Season Two
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do – Angel Season Two
@cathannabel — yes, they’re not my favourite screen Beatrice and Benedick — that honour goes to Damian Lewis and Sarah Parrish, closely followed by Ken & Em — but they still have a quite nice Cary […]
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11 years, 4 months ago - View
JimTheFish commented on the post, Every girl who could have the power, will have the power, can stand up, will stand up – Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Seven
we see these battered veterans, hanging on as best they can to their loyalties and loves and to whatever humour they can find, but unable to be what they were
Totally true in the contexxt of them […]
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11 years, 5 months ago - View
ScaryB commented on the post, Every girl who could have the power, will have the power, can stand up, will stand up – Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Seven
Just great. Beautiful summing up. Really can’t think of anything to add to it! And nice to finish with @Purofilion and @Cathannabel‘s brilliant quotes.
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11 years, 5 months ago - View
JimTheFish wrote a new post, Every girl who could have the power, will have the power, can stand up, will stand up – Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Seven
And here we are. End of the line for the Sunnydale crew. Season 7 is problematic and flawed but in the end it pulls a pretty impressive victory from the jaws of potential defeat and ends what is surely undoubtedly one of the most pivotal shows in TV history in fine style.
And said flaws are not the fault of this season per se but a combination of circumstance and the actual format of the series starting to fall apart.
A show like Buffy required a big finish but because the decision to actually end the series was taken somewhat late in the day, how this was going to be achieved was done on a rather ad hoc basis. Joss’s attention was still taken up on the now-disintegrating Firefly and that no doubt took its toll on Buffy (as it also did on Angel s4).
So, mistakes were made. The first of these was making The First the season’s Big Bad. The problem is that The First is too vague, a concept, rather than a tangible adversary. Literally in this case. As Buffy points out, the First’s non-corporeality means that it should be more accurately described as The Taunter. On the surface of it, it’s an odd decision. The First was barely a passable dramatic entity in s3’s Amends, let alone recurring across an entire season (but because the episode was essentially one of those laying the groundwork for s1 of Angel, it didn’t in the end matter too much). But here in s7, the return of The First promises much (like that nice ‘greatest hits’ of Big Bads at the end of the first episode) but ultimately is just not in any position to actually deliver.
Things improve greatly with Nathan Fillion’s arrival as Caleb. Fillion — great as the lead in Firefly — was another refugee from that show’s implosion (Gina Torres would similarly be slotted into s4 of Angel with, I think, less success.) And as a Night of the Hunter-esque misogynistic and unstoppable preacher, he brought a nice focus to The First narrative.
But either through accident or design, it is Caleb who is the true Big Bad of the season (and possibly the entire show). His religious garb is no accident. He is another version of the four men who started the Slayer line in the first place, and therefore of the Watchers’ Council who perpetrated their abuse of the first Slayer.
Caleb represents the institutions of control — the Watchers, prophecy in all its manifestations, the men who see Buffy and all the Slayers, and quite possibly all women full stop, as instruments of pawns in their respective games. The First is essentially the backdrop for that conflict, not the conflict itself. But because Caleb is introduced so late, The First has to adopt the role of the main adversary — a role that it’s not really up to — and this leads to the middle of the season feeling kind of flat. The whole thread of the hunt for the first Turok Hahn has a definite feeling of treading narrative water about it. (And interesting in how they quickly want from nigh on impossible to kill, to being easily dusted by the likes of Giles and Wood in the finale.)
A second problem is that the Scoobies in general had gotten too old. Part of the appeal of the best, earlier, Buffy seasons is that the characters were so engaging because they still had their whole lives ahead of them. They were embodiments of hope in their own ways — and this contrasted with the darkness of the supernatural enemies they faced. Their innocence, their being blank slates — full of hope and potential — were a big part of the point of the show.
Their lives are far from over, of course, but each of the Scoobies now carries too much baggage. And they’re all damaged in their own way. Buffy is humourless and harsh — more reminiscent of her Wish-Universe version rather than the s3 ‘real world’ equivalent, Willow is a recovering addict, Xander is a half-blind commitment phobic. Even Giles is rather sad now, having less life than he appeared to have when he was merely a fusty librarian cum Watcher. In seasons 1-4, we have a love of these characters because what we feel they’re in the process of becoming, the greatness and potential of their lives. Now it’s hard to escape the nagging feeling that they’re very close to becoming a bunch of losers.
Perhaps more so than many other TV formats, Buffy had a definite shelf life. We really weren’t meant to see them far beyond high school, I suspect. There is an unresolvable conflict here. The natural progression of the characters contains within it the demise of the show. It’s to be commended that it constantly pushed its characters out of their comfort zones but there comes a point when the characters are too old and a little too broken. Buffy as a 16-year-old calling Kakistos ‘kissing toast’ in s3 was endearing and funny, but as a 22-year-old she’s too old for the same trick to work with the Turok Hahn because it makes her look more silly and arch than anything else.
But this all sounds overly critical because s7 is actually perfectly fine aside from these structural problems. It’s got no really duff episodes (except maybe Him, which tried to be a pastiche of early Buffy but which I think did it far too self-consciously to ever have a chance of succeeding) and it has a lot of first-class ones, as good as anything in other seasons. And the season finale, did a fine job of bringing both the season, but more importantly, the entire series itself to an appropriate conclusion. (Although for my money, I still consider the Angel finale to be more satisfying than the Buffy one.)
A few brief notes on various characters:
GILES — he really should have been gone by now and served absolutely no useful purpose in this season, seemingly still hanging on in there because of sentimental attachment to the character. But this in the end caused more harm than good. It was right and necessary that Buffy be seen to be ‘cutting the strings’ from Giles but it was kind of done in a ham-fisted way. It didn’t seem credible that he would fall in Robin’s suggestion to kill Spike — especially as Giles had history with both Angel and of Spike. And by having his final significant act in the series being an act of betrayal, the character was ultimately done a disservice.
I feel it would have been wiser for Giles to have perished with the rest of the Watchers’ Council — heroically, of course. But this would have sent a devastating message to both Buffy (Giles’s head sent to her in a box a la Seven?) and the viewers that The First were something more serious than the common or garden evil.SPIKE — Having given Spike a soul at the end of s6, the writers were clearly at a loss as to what the hell to do with him and so we have yet more treading water — triggers, sleeper agents and so on — until they were ready for him. The reveal of the soul to Buffy is very well done though — an extremely affecting scene by Marsters and SMG — and his final sacrifice is a great moment (slightly undone later in Angel) and his laughter as he burns the Hellmouth is a great moment, and the perfect character beat. Spike has a poet’s soul — no, it’s not a poetic delusion, he’s the genuine article, just one born out of time in the stultifying era of the Victorians (we’ll see a scene in a future season of Angel that reveals that he finally finds his poetic place and affirmation). But a poet he is — and one who revels in chaos and irony at that — and that is why he both understands and embraces his ‘final’ destiny as a force of change, as well as conforming and confirming his original role as a puckish Lord of Misrule.
But the real power of the finale is that it chimes with the whole ethos of the show, confronts the constrictions that have dogged Buffy from the outset of Welcome to the Hellmouth and lays them to rest. Buffy’s victory is absolute. And it is a reward too. She finally gets what she’s most consistently wanted and asked for throughout the past seven years — to be a normal girl.
But let’s end with a couple of quotes from out own Watchers. First, @purofilion:
what I liked about Whedon’s vision was not shying away from the idea of empowerment for all girls who become women: and all ‘potentials’ as slayers. The fact he even mentions women bleeding together -in a commentary – was quite a shock. But a good one.
And I think @cathannabel sums it up nicely:
And that bit where the potentials become actuals – that beautiful sequence of young women taking that power on, without understanding it but knowing that its theirs, and standing up, literally or figuratively… Lord, that moves me so much, I can’t even speak about it without choking up. Over the last, very tough, year, it has played in my head at so many moments when I’ve felt powerless and defeated, and made me stand up straighter too.
On the subject of Buffy, very little more needs to be said than that, I think. However, do leave your thoughts and musings below. No spoilers for Angel seasons 2-5, which I’ll now try to zip through in short order.
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