@thane16 @mudlark

there won’t necessarily be a return to R’s mum.

I agree. But, @mudlark‘s forensic analysis strongly suggests something is going on. The scene in TCoRR is different to that on TLoRS, so it’s plausible that something manifested in the time window version of that scene. Possibly (very) bad, possibly friendly to Ruby.

So, no to a r…[Read more]

@whohar

see Spoilers for my comment re Mr Garnett.

More science… in general ‘smaller’ is better. Mainly in terms of threat. But science too. If you decide to go with speculative theoretical physics ok. But make it tight. Black Hole Information Paradox: show me what it means! Your challenge for next season Russ!

Even the maligned ‘Babi…[Read more]

@wolvesarerunning I feel like I’m defending an episode I was pretty disappointed with but here’s the thing – when pictures of Ruby’s mother popped up by instinctive, instant reaction was ‘oh, she looks so ordinary’. And RTD did, as you say, troll the hell out of us with possibilities. The woman in the tent, no one can’t convince me that wasn’t a…[Read more]

@wolvesarerunning

I loved the scene in Empire of Death with the mother in the tent.

Hands down the best scene in the ep imo.

One other thing, I don’t think has been mentioned yet. Wasn’t Ruby’s father called Garnet? Could just be RTD being playful, but Ruby and Garnet? Seems like it could / should have additional meaning.

@miapatrick

… it was Ruby’s mother who he couldn’t see

Yes, now that you point it out. I suppose my mind was wandering down another path and interpreting ‘see’ in a much wider sense. But why, among all the other mothers who have abandoned their babies or given them up for adoption and whose children have since tried and failed to find them, was…[Read more]

It’s interesting re-reading comments on 73 yards — @wolvesarerunning “everyone who meets Spooky Ruby manifests that original loss” is most interesting considering the recent episode.

@juniperfish also “when the Doctor has to restore the timeline …Ruby will have to vanish like the changeling she is- back into faerieland.”

Now, considering t…[Read more]

@bunface

so maybe the fact Ruby Sunday (I mean, the name!) is so very reminiscent of Rose/Amy/Clara is because she’s full on alien, even in the world of Who. That is, she isn’t just alien, she’s a supernatural/fairy tale/Disney character.

Which makes me wonder, is she even real to the Doctor, only he doesn’t know it yet?

Yessssss – and therefor…[Read more]

@wolvesarerunning. Welcome. glad you decided to post and it is never too late to join the party. Nice theory. I like it.

Cheers

Janette