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    Oochillyo @oochillyo

    hey everyone, I am struggling to upload a profile picture apparently the file is too big can anyone help, thank you 🙂

    Regards – Declan Sargent

    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @oochillyo I had that problem with a photo on another website. My solution was to reduce the size of the photo. That seemed to work.

    Oochillyo @oochillyo

    hey everyone and @blenkinsopthebrave especially I just wanted to let you all know as you can see I finally got a profile picture yay 🙂 I could not seem to time the image (cause its a gif) correctly after 4 attempts but oh well I am happy it finally worked and thank you @blenkinsopthebrave for the advice, I found out if you wanna put a gif into this site you have to place it in vids/photos instead of just placing it in a Word Document hope that may help someone if anyone is struggling with that.

    If its unclear cause of the dim colors sorry my profile picture is The Macra from my fav episode ‘Gridlock’ when we see them up close 🙂 but I guess the dim lighting is all part of the ep, the smoke and the mystery of whats ‘hiding in the smoke’ :0 I love this ep soo much I could quote many lines such as ‘New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New York’  ‘Its the air vents’  ‘I think he’s a bit slow’  ‘That and a bit magnificent’ ‘Drive up’ 🙂

    Regards – Declan Sargent

    Oochillyo @oochillyo

    hey everyone , I hope your all happy and well 🙂

    I hadnt watched any Doctor Who for a bit since the excellent Monk Trilogy so my friend and me decided to watch Unicorn and the Wasp recently which was super nice and after that (on the same day) I dipped back into Capaldi with series 10 and watched Empress of Mars and Eaters of Light and I dont see why a lot of people dislike both of them soo much, to a certain extent I can understand but I really enjoyed them which surprised me since I heard a lot of negativity about them beforehand.

    Empress of Mars was smart, cool and interesting, I had a slight feeling of it not making me excited about the ep like it lacked a bit of energy but was clever and interesting enough to be good if that makes sense.

    Eaters of Light was a lot more interesting, smart and cool and I really enjoyed it.

    I might do a proper review for each but maybe I will leave that till I get through all of series 10 but Eaters of Light is my fav out of the two and high up there in series 10 for me, I really think series 10 like series 8 is a really good series with Capaldi and sometimes there are some weaker eps like The Pilot and Thin Ice (maybe I need to watch them again) but overall its a really great series especially from oxygen and beyond so far 🙂

    I am pretty nervous for the three part final like I know they are good but I just this series to end strong and always feel like a strong series when I look back after cracking through the final and I will Miss Capaldi’s Doctor a brilliant Doctor and a lovely and an equally Brilliant Actor 🙂 , take care everyone and stay positive hugs 🙂

    Regards – Declan Sargent

    winston @winston

    @oochillyo  It is great that you are enjoying series 10 so much. It is a good one with lots of good episodes and great new companions. Bill and Nardole are both brilliant and even better together. They are perfect for our crusty 12th Doctor. Nardole gives us comic relief and Bill seems like all of us if we were swept off in the Tardis. there is lots of good stuff to come.

    I am a fan of Agatha Christie so The Unicorn and the Wasp is a sentimental favourite of mine. It was good clean fun as my Mom used to say.

    Stay Safe.

    blenkinsopthebrave @blenkinsopthebrave

    @winston and @oochillyo, Just rewatched “The Unicorn and the Wasp”. It is outrageously silly, but…it is also lots of fun. The way they incorporate so many Agatha book titles into the dialogue is wonderful. As for “Empress of Mars”, I loved it it! It is one of my favourite episodes. Thinking about it, it is probably because both stories capture something about late 19th C./early 20th C. popular literature  and manage to connect it to “Doctor Who” in a way that just works…in a silly (but reverential) kind of way.

    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @oochillyo   @blenkinsopthebrave

    Empress of Mars doesn’t really do it for me.   It seems kind of predictable, Indiana Jones crossed with Edgar Rice Burroughs  (I think, I’ve never actually read Burroughs).   Sort of like Blenkinsopthebrave mentioned.   Ah well, tastes vary in an unpredictable way, a while ago I picked up a copy of Red Sonja for a dollar, it’s a sort of early Schwarzenegger  Xena-before-Xena-was-a-thing sword & sandals, and I wasn’t expecting to like it but I found it not bad.

    Eaters of Light, now, that was definitely one I’ll watch again.   It had atmosphere.   I think there were plot holes a mile wide but (unlike Kill the Moon) I didn’t mind, I found I could gloss over them.

    I don’t think S10 has a three-part final, unless you count the Christmas episode Twice Upon a Time, but that’s really quite unrelated to the actual final.   World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls  is a very strong 2-part final, also a highly emotional one.   You may love it, you may hate it, maybe both,  but I don’t think you’ll be able to say it wasn’t a strong one.  I won’t say more, spoilers.

    Quite OT, but here in NZ we’re having the end of summer.   Weather is fine for days on end, the sea is *warm*, lovely time to go to the beach.   And the best thing, the life guards have knocked off for the season so I can swim where I like (with due caution for my own safety) without being harassed to swim in a tiny crowd in their apparently randomly-selected ‘safe’ spot.   This settled weather usually lasts till about Easter, after which everything falls off towards winter.

    winston @winston

    @blenkinsopthebrave   When Doctor Who visits the past and real or fictional people I am usually happy. As a lover of history the past is a more comfortable place for me. The future makes me far more anxious, it usually involves monsters and corridors and robots.I am waiting for NASA to discover God Save the Queen, spelled out with rocks, on the surface of Mars. That was a silly scene and I loved it!

    Silly is good now and then, in fact I think we need more silly things in our lives. Today I watched a river otter play on the ice and he was very silly. For almost an hour we watched him slide and roll and then slide on his back for no reason but to have fun. What a privilege and a giggle.

    Stay safe

    janetteB @janetteb

    @winston by coincidence we currently have a plush river otter sitting on our table. Our border’s girlfriend gave him a WWF North American River Otter adaption for his birthday so maybe that is his otter you saw. Until yesterday I was not particularly familiar with the breed so having a toy version is not quite the same but still very cute. She also made him an otter cake.

    @oochillyo @blenkinsopthebrave and @dentarthurdent I love Eaters of Light. It is one I will re watch on a grey day. The rapport between the Doctor, Bill and Nardole is always a pleasure and really lights up this episode, and there are standing stones. (Always a plus)

    Empress of Mars I liked too. Again a lot of fun characters and like Winston would love for the Mars robot to come across those letters. The past is also a more comfortable place for me.

    Unicorn and the Wasp is also an enjoyable play on Agatha Christie novels though the story itself is a bit bonkers. It reminds me of the fifth Doctor, Black Orchid story. For the same reasons I am really fond of Robots of Sherwood, a story that is saturated with charm and humour, two qualities which are the essence of Doctor Who for me.

    We have been re watching some Pertwee stories but are now up to Robot.




    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @janetteb   I was just thinking of you.   Hope you’re all right where you are.   We’ve been seeing the newsreel footage of catastrophic floods in Oz, though I think that’s mostly to the east of you?    We normally get the weather after you’ve finished with it, but it seems there’s this ‘blocking high’ in the Tasman that’s caused all the weather to pile up over Sydney.   Meanwhile we’ve had three weeks of fine weather and the water at Piha’s still warm, forcing me to swim every day  🙂   Makes me feel a bit guilty, actually.    But it seems (according to today’s forecast) that the weather has finally forced its way through so our turn is on the way.

    Robot of Sherwood is okay, watchable, but there was one discordant note – when the Sheriff stabbed the old man in the village, in cold blood.   I thought that was a bit too grimly explicit for an otherwise ‘light’ episode.    And there was one implausibility, shooting the golden arrow at the ship.   I like the concept, that the arrow would save the day; but to reach a spaceship on launch with an arrow you’d need to shoot it out of a high-velocity anti-tank rifle at the very least; and by what mechanism could an arrow hitting the ship be converted into fuel for its engines?    (Why does that niggle me when robots and Robin Hood and a Tardis don’t?   I *think* because shooting an arrow is very much conventional Earth kinematics, not sci-fi.   We all have our own limits of credibility, different for each of us, I think.   And I think we’re more sensitive about things we know most about.   In my case it’s mechanical things, which is why McGyver always offended me with every ridiculous physically impossible trick that McGyver pulled.   Every single one.)

    janetteB @janetteb

    @dentarthurdent The arrow made me cringe when I first watched the episode and still annoys me but I tend to overlook that for the sake of the banter between the Doctor and Robin though I understand how that can be too much. My sons also hated that episode for that reason. We often argue about it. They tell me  I am far too forgiving when it comes to Dr Who.

    Yes we are well to the west of the flooding and could do with a little of that water though we have had a couple of light showers in the past couple of days much to the relief of the garden and it makes the birds sing. IT has been a very cool summer here, which after last years’ horrendous heatwaves, is something of a relief. I love the heat but 48c is too much even for me and way too much for the poor garden. We went down to the beach a couple of weeks ago and it was far too cold to swim. I was regretting not taking a coat.




    Missy @missy

    @dentarthurdent: I can’t say that I was enamoured of Empress of Mars either. Then again, I really enjoyed Robot’s of Sherwood, which had me cackling most of the way through it. I especially enjoyed the scene where the Doctor took samples from some of the Merry Men and analysed them.🤣 Of course Mark Gatiss wrote both of them.

    @oochillyo: Now isn’t that interesting? The Pilot and Thin Ice are up there with my favourite episodes.

    What is everyone’s opinion of Face the Raven. Another one of my favourites ( I know, I know, you can’t really have several favourites, so forgive me) The farewell scene where the doctor takes Clara’s hand and kisses it has me in tears every time! The hand kissing was PC’s idea apparently. Very poignant.


    janetteB @janetteb

    @missy  I insist on having many favourites where Doctor Who is concerned. 😉 and Face the Raven is amongst them. A good episode on so many levels. Thin Ice is an episode that I re watch often The Pilot less so. It is not a bad episode and has some good moments but not one of the best.




    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @missy @janetteb Face the Raven is absolutely one of my favourites. Well written and tragic. How can I like an episode that killed my favourite companion due to a miscalculation? Because that’s the essence of tragedy. Clara died while courageously saving a life. Okay she thought she’d be safe, but it still takes courage to run the risk of something going wrong – as it did. The Doctor barely controlling his anger with Me was impressive. And the image of Rigsy decorating the abandoned Tardis at the end was deeply moving – illogically (but not unusually), that scene had me nearer to tears than anything else in the episode.

    Thin Ice is okay, but Victorian episodes aren’t really a favourite of mine. (By the way, why does the Doctor never encounter steam trains? The Orient Express in space doesn’t count. Many, many historical dramas chuck in a steam train – because they can. Preserved railways are only too eager to offer their premises and many have a few old locos which, if not going back to Victorian times, at least go back to early 1900’s (and can pass for Victorian to anyone except railway nuts like me, and I’m willing to forgive mild anachronisms if they’re not too blatant 🙂 )

    Back to Doctor Who – unlike @winston, I don’t feel comfortable in the past. It always feels dangerous and foreign to me – probably because most of history is about things which went horribly and fatally wrong, and the Doctor (or at least his companions) is out of their time, and I’m always afraid they’ll be found out. And historical events then tend to dominate the story. I feel most comfortable in the present, when the story can unfold uncomplicated, or the future, where the writers can indulge in interesting ‘world-building’. Oddly enough, I never got that uneasy feeling watching ‘Xena’, who notoriously strayed all over ancient history. I can only put that down to the fact that it was ‘her home period’ (even though that date was, to put it charitably, chronologically ill-defined) and she didn’t officially time-travel, so she wasn’t at risk of being stranded ‘out of her time’.

    winston @winston

    @dentarthurdent   That is why Doctor Who is so good, there is something for everyone.

    My family loved Xena when the kids were young. That and Hercules were pretty popular in Canada.

    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @winston   It was probably just as well that my knowledge of ancient history was…. sketchy.   If I’d known much I would probably have been continually dismayed by Xena’s wildly erratic treatment of history and chronology   🙂

    But what am I talking about.   Greek female warrior princess – about as likely as a Tardis, I guess.   It’s a thesis of mine that ‘willing suspension of disbelief’ is very inconsistent and what really bugs me will pass unnoticed by someone else – and vice versa.

    Just for starters everyone in the ancient (Xena/Hercules) world spoke the same language (which conveniently happened to be English) without the benefit of a Tardis translation circuit.   Ah well, pretty much like every other historical drama in that respect.   Translator microbes and Babel fish hadn’t been invented yet.

    winston @winston

    @dentarthurdent   I absolutely agree and for some reason when I saw “Rose” for the first time I was totally “willing”  to suspend disbelief and sink into the stories like a warm bath. Other shows can drive me crazy though because I just don’t believe in them. It’s a good thing there are so many things out there to watch, something for everyone.

    I really loved ” Joxer the Mighty” from Xena.

    Stay safe.

    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    I found with Hercules and Xena that the pleasant, often impressive, scenery helped a lot to make me more accepting of impossibilities.   Though about 50% of the episodes are still forgettable and better forgotten.   It was an open secret even the producers acknowledged that the quality varied wildly.   The other thing they had going for them was Joe loDuca’s magnificent musical score, I rate him consistently better than Murray Gold (though it’s not a competition, that’s just my personal opinion, and Murray Gold did good work in many eps).

    Joxer, now, was one of those characters that people either loved or found intensely annoying.   I thought that intensity of opinion was unique to Xena fandom but I’ve since seen it in others including Doctor Who.

    winston @winston

    @everyone  Yesterday in Canada we had a some wonderful,marvelous and almost unbelievable good news. A little 3 year old boy wandered away from his Grandpas house and was lost in the forest that surrounded his home. A huge search was carried out by police and volunteers but after 3 nights in the woods they were getting discouraged. It was below 0C those nights and it rained and thundered and the little guy was just a 3 year old baby, how could he be OK? Then yesterday a searcher spotted his blue coat in the woods but when he approached the toddler was laying there but then he opened his eyes! He was alive and wanted a drink .He is in hospital but other than being hungry ,thirsty and frightened  he will be fine after a few days good care.

    He was a full kilometer from his Grandpas home which is crazy. The police say he had been dressed warmly and was wearing a wool sweater which insulates even when wet. He was missing for 72 hours.

    Everyone who knew the story, including me, hoped for a happy ending and we got one!! I was so happy I actually jumped up and clapped and in tears I shouted “Just this once everyone lives!”

    I just wanted to tell you all about this little boy because his resilience is amazing and the police are amazing and even wool is amazing. I hope it gives you all a little cheer.

    Oochillyo @oochillyo

    hey @winston wow that’s amazing 🙂 I am very glad that lovely little boy is safe and reunited with his family, at such a young age the outdoors is a fun adventure and you cant blame him 🙂 its like an early Easter Joy 🙂

    Take care everyone and stay positive especially with this lovely news hugs 🙂

    Regards – Declan Sargent

    janetteB @janetteb

    @winston that is a lovely story. Children are wonderfully resilient. I did not know that even wet wool provides insulation. I guess that helped the early 20thc arctic and antarctic explorers to survive.

    A little good news is to be treasured in times like these. It feels at times that there is nothing good happening, if it isn’t Covid it is global warming or the onslaught of conservatism. Life just seems to get harder all the time.But right now the sun is shining out side, birds are chirping happily and there is a glorious bunch of sunflowers on the table, a gift from neighbours.



    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @winston   That’s happy news.   I guess he’ll have a story to tell his kids in future years if he remembers (or if his parents document it for him).   Kids are surprisingly resilient.   I’m not surprised he made a kilometer, even young kids can move at quite surprising speeds on occasion.   (I’ve just realised I’ve been saying ‘surprising’ a lot, too lazy to reword it, sorry  🙂

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    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @winston I guess in Canada you should be getting into spring by now?

    Easter is usually when the weather breaks down here, but our summer (NZ) seems to be hanging on extraordinarily well. We had a batch of rain before Easter, so I hadn’t been out to Piha beach for a week and a half, went out today, the beach was near deserted, the waves were big, but, to my surprise, the water is still warm. As warm as it was at Christmas! Absolutely great. The only other people swimming were a family of four from Brazil, and there were three Japanese tourists on the beach taking selfies in front of the surf. Since anyone from most countries has to stay two weeks in quarantine on arrival, and places and permission are strictly limited, I wonder what their stories are. Have they been stuck here ever since Covid started? Who knows.


    winston @winston

    @dentarthurdent   Spring has sprung here in Canada but some areas are “springier” than others but we will all catch up eventually. I have some beautiful patches of crocus in bloom and the colours are so good after a long white winter. The turtles and frogs are waking up and the birds are making nests, and I am starting seeds in the greenhouse so it must be here. Thank goodness, the cabin fever was getting to me. Although it may snow again it wont last.

    It sounds like your weather is lovely and I wish I were there. There is nothing better than an empty or near empty beach. It is like a world of your own. I can think of worse places to be stuck.

    We are in an emergency stay at home order starting at midnight  and lasting at least a month. Our numbers are out of control here in Ontario although some provinces are doing much better. The variants are out of control and there are more people in intensive care and on ventilators than at any time over this pandemic. The young people are getting it now and they are getting very ill. So sad and so frustrating. Our Premier is a waffling idiot! I I really just want my shots but have no idea when that will happen. Oh well………..I’ll just picture myself walking on your beach listening to the birds and the waves.

    Stay safe.

    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    Thanks @ winston
    Here’s hoping your emergency lockdown works and you’re released in time for your summer.

    It’s just occurred to me how extraordinarily lucky I am. First, I’m retired, there’s just me and Mrs D in the house, so we have space, even in a lockdown, to not get on each other’s nerves (and after 30+ years we’ve learned how to get along). I imagine families in inner city flats, or people having relationship problems, must really suffer.
    And the other thing, our first Covid lockdown was March last year, pretty much when the summer weather broke (it’s hanging on later this year), so not-going-to-the-beach was something that would have happened anyway. Though on a nice winter day (happens occasionally) I have been known to go there for a walk (not during lockdown though, too far). I do love walking on the beach and, if the sea is rough, watching the waves surging and crashing in The Gap, I can sit there for an hour and just watch the sea.

    And even in Level 4 we were allowed out to the nearest park, which was the busiest it had ever been, with people walking around in intricate dynamically changing patterns keeping at least 2 metres from each other. So I was still able to do my 45 minutes daily walk without which I will turn into a blob.

    winston @winston

    @dentarthurdent  I googled Piha beach and it is a stunningly beautiful place. I love the black sand and the turquoise water. I feel I could walk it forever. The pics were all perfect weather shots but I would love to see it in stormy weather. An angry sea is an awesome thing to see, from a safe distance.

    We both got our appointments for our first vaccine on April 20th so we are pretty stoked about that!

    Stay safe


    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @winston I thought you might Google it (it’s what I instantly do for any reference).
    I usually swim at the South beach (south of Lion Rock), but my favourite spot for watching the surf is The Gap. If you zoom in on Satellite View, at the south end is Taitomo Island – which is only just technically an island, the water only just fills a shallow channel across the beach inside the island at the top of the tide – and at the south end of the island is The Gap (which is marked on Google as The Blue Pool – I have never heard it called that, and it usually isn’t blue). There is a small deep pool there (usually, sometimes it gets bigger, but I’ve known it to disappear completely once – the sand on the beach moves around a LOT from year to year). But anyway, there’s a natural rock wall, I think a lava dyke, that runs north-south across the inlet that makes it so magic – waves come thundering in through the Gap, hit the rock wall just below the surface, and surge over it, but that breaks most of their force, so you can swim in the pool inside in comparative safety even when the approaching waves are spectacular.

    The other interesting phenomenon is that the incoming waves bring in a lot more water over the ‘wall’ than can drain back out after the wave has subsided, so a ‘river’ flows northwards across the sand and disappears through the Taitomo cave (which Google has named ‘the Keyhole’).

    I like to sit on a comfortable natural rock seat on the rocks at the south side of the gap and watch big swells come thundering in and sometimes make massive showers of spray. I can do that for an hour.

    This picture http://cr01.info/misc/Piha-TheGap/p1230045.jpg shows it at just above low tide, you can see the ‘rock wall’ with a wave just managing to spill over it.
    And here’s a couple at high tide with good waves, which is when I like it best, the ‘rock wall’ is submerged but doing good work at bouncing most of the wave energy back seawards
    (I do hope the website software doesn’t imbed those pics, I don’t want to use up all Craig’s data storage)

    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    Not sure whether this should be in Doctor Who memories (where I put my comments on Victory of the Daleks) or On The Sofa. I’ll stick it here (On The Sofa). I’ve got up to A Time of Angels.

    A Time of Angels – now that’s cooking with gas (as they used to say). Right out of the blocks, it’s cool, slick and cheeky. Hallucinogenic lipstick, indeed. River, summoning the Doctor across 12,000 years of space-time to rescue her when she blows herself into space. And she can drive the Tardis better than the Doctor – cue the inverse of woman driver cliches. Is this River’s first appearance since Silence in the Library? Love the way she and Doctor compare notes.
    The first sight of the Angel, the blurry monochrome TV picture, reminds me strongly of ‘Alien’ – Ridley Scott’s classic scifi horror. Apparently the ‘alien ship’ set looked so phony when seen in close-up, that he had the genius idea of showing it all through a grainy old TV set which served as a monitor for the crew’s helmet cameras. Then when Amy returns to look at the monitor and the angel has moved – that’s genuinely a shock. Especially since the video is supposed to be on a repeating loop. And then Amy’s nightmare begins…
    The whole sequence of the soldiers looking through the catacombs with torches in the dark is reminiscent of ‘Alien’ (or was it ‘Aliens’?). Very scary though. And then the realisation that, if the extinct Atlans all had two heads, why do all the statues only have one?
    This was a cracking episode.

    janetteB @janetteb

    @dentarthurdent I has a look at the google images too and it is a stunningly beautiful beach.  Is the black sand volcanic?

    Time of Angles is indeed a cracking episode.  I love the moment when they realise that the statues only have one head. It reminds me a lot of “Curse of Fatal Death” which Moffat wrote as a Red Nose Day fundraiser back in the 90s. We were looking at the backwards River Song story, (as told from her perspective) the other day. One day I will watch the episodes in that order.

    @winston glad that you are soon to get the jab. We are going to have a long wait  I fear. We live in a Labor voting area so we are well down on the roll out schedule. (right now we are very grumpy because the train upgrade which was supposed to be finished has just been stretched out to November. So the journey which took about 45 minutes by train takes 1hr and 45 minutes by substitute bus now.)





    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    Hi @janetteb

    The black sand at Piha is a mixture of iron-rich black sand (titanomagnetite), and ordinary yellow-brown sand. The black sand apparently comes all the way up the coast from Mt Taranaki (Mt Egmont), 200 miles away, by wave action (okay, so I had to Google that). The yellow sand is probably of local origin, and that would be volcanic, since the coast line locally is mostly volcanic comglomerate from ash showers, with occasional lava intrusions. The sand can vary from almost yellow to purple-black, depending how the washing effect of the tide has sorted the grains. It’s extremely fine, and gets very hot in the sun since the black iron absorbs a lot of heat (due to its colour), has a high heat capacity and a high conductivity. On a sunny afternoon it’s a painful challenge to race across the beach in bare feet to the cooler sand below high tide mark.

    I don’t know for sure, but I’d guess its darkness might have caused headaches in the grading for Directors of Photography on innumerable productions, not just Hercules and Xena, but a number of movies, most notably The Piano, shot on the west coast. It’s okay (visually) in the sun, but when a cloud hits it – of which we have a plentiful supply – it can look really dark. One time I was walking at Piha and I came upon an American production being shot at The Gap. Nobody would tell me its name, but the crew were very pleasant and gave me a coffee and a snack from the refreshment tent. The security guards for these productions are invariably pleasant and polite about keeping bystanders out of shot, it’s a public beach so I don’t think their filming permit gives them any legal authority to chase people away. But there are so few people on the beach outside summer holiday weekends, their job isn’t too difficult. I wonder how that compares with e.g. Doctor Who filming on the beach in Time of Angels.

    @winston Good to hear about your forthcoming vaccine. Vaccination has started here in NZ, I’m not sure where we are on the list, not for a while yet, but it’s not so urgent for us.


    janetteB @janetteb

    @dentarthurdent I was wondering if it was the beach or in the vicinity of the beach used in The Piano. Those sweeping beach shots were the most memorable part of the film.

    We are about a two hour drive from the south coast but if we take the back way and avoid the city, (which stretches almost from here to the coast) it is a very pleasant drive. There are beaches to the west of us but they are on the peninsula and so not so enticing. Due west is mostly (now dying) mangroves.




    Dentarthurdent @dentarthurdent

    @janetteb The Piano was at Karekare, which is the next significant beach south of Piha. Hercules and Xena and most other productions use Bethells Beach, 5 miles north of Piha. Piha tends to not be used so much because it’s the busiest settlement, however I have come across filming activity at The Gap and also at the far north end of Piha Beach. In between these beaches are a lot of tiny bays under the cliffs, some with a little sand, some of them only accessible by boat. South of Karekare though, the beach extends in one sweep 5 miles to Whatipu, it has built out a mile from the cliffs with swamps behind it. I haven’t seen The Piano but those sweeping beach shots you mention were probably of this long beach. I’ve only walked this stretch of beach once (both ways, there and back), and I met – no-one. Not a soul, it was utterly deserted.

    I’d guess the beaches west of you suffer from being too sheltered for good wave action. Most of the beaches around Auckland (except for the west coast) are the same, they tend to be muddy rather than sandy, either being in harbours or sheltered by the Hauraki Gulf islands. It takes a good amount of wave action to keep a beach clear of mud, I think.

    As it happens, today was fine (after two days of rain), so a beautiful fine calm day at the beach, and the water is still warm. I’m not sure how long this is going to last but I’m making the most of it.

    Oochillyo @oochillyo

    hey everyone , I am not sure whether this goes in memories or on the Sofa but hey oh

    I want the Slitheen back in Doctor Who in a really cool way/story.

    It would be crazy if one of the Companions was a Slitheen in disguise, does the Doctor know all along and plays the fool or feel upset that someone they grew close to is a born killer and deceptive and are the other companions at risk.

    We havnt seen the Slitheen properly since the first New Who Series where they were the first two parter of the New Series, one was seen in that sort of space pub where Captain Jack was when the Tenth Doctor was visiting all his friends one more time so there is angles of them being kinda friendly not always selfish or aggressive.

    I am not sure which I saw first Doctor Who or Sarah Jane Adventures but the first ep of Sarah Jane Adventures I remember watching when I was very young was the Slitheen two parter (kinda interesting they got a two parter there as well 🙂 ) and it was amazing and scary the idea of your teachers being this strong monsters in disguise and the two eps were really interesting and thrilling with the dilemma of families at the end and they hinted to the actions and ramifications of the Ninth Doctor in Aliens of London and World War Three (which I found super interesting and cam to understand when going through older eps of Doctor Who I missed) as Slitheen is the family name so they lost a lot of their family back then and Sarah Jane hints to knowing it was The Doctor.

    In later eps of the Sarah Jane Adventures the Slitheen come back the Blathereen are introduced and when the Slitheen come back it connects to their first eps in Sarah Jane Adventures which I found really cool again there are consequences and ramifications to the Actions this time of the Sarah Jane Adventures crew and it was nice seeing them work together at the end despite this.

    Plus in Sarah Jane Adventures they improved the look/sound of the Slitheen and made them a lot scarier than in Doctor Who in my opinion and I understand new techniques and advancements in technology may have helped even in the short time since their first appearance but it should be kept like that if they come Back in Doctor Who which we see in that Pub the sort of ‘Modern’ version of them.

    So (all in my opinion) I want them back in Doctor Who, perhaps an acknowledgment of the connection between their first appearance in Doctor Who to Sarah Jane Adventures and the consequences of the Doctor’s actions, it would be really good if they bring back the specific Slitheen from the Sarah Jane Adventures to keep that connection going and we already know them which may be used in an interesting way especially as the child Slitheen would be older so mayby his perspectives would have changed since Sarah Jane helped him twice and his adopted family were the ones who put aside the differences between the two for the benefit of them all which shows the family dynamic and capabilities of the Slitheen to offer help and unity and we can swap the actors easily since the Slitheen can use different skins if they want to or if necessary.

    Regards – Declan Sargent

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