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So went to Dericks house and later friend joined 🙂 small nibble type things and chat 🙂
I was thinking lot of story things and wondered what is a paradox and like if it could happen would it actually do or change anything or is it just the film idea we have of it
Like I was thinking previous times about paradox for story elements then I though today of like a double paradox like can that happen ?
For example in the story I was thinking thematically and like maybe I dont want one of these characters to go down you know and I was thinking of a way to cheat it kinda ha but it got me thinking wait a minute if this character cheats it for character A but previous thinking Character A was the paradox you know if I’ve got that right ha
So I thought double stacking paradoxes and all the thinking about YouTube , films ect all stuff about paradox and I thought what is it actually what does it do ?
Cause can have like logical paradoxes like I watched a lot of those Vsauce 3 videos about it but they aren’t like time breaking ones
I was thinking about the time breaking ones and yes I know but if we actually had a time machine would any of that classic stuff happen ?
Like you always hear with the GrandFather Paradox and like in Back to The Future film – what if like you became your Grandparent basically or like what happend in Back to The Future film before was resolved with the current day family fading away and like would that actually be real if could move around on time lines ect
Example you hear in lot of these thinking stuff about time lines that you would basically create a second time line that splits from the one you were on and I was thinking its always in film ect like with Doctor Who and the time the Master did all that paradox stuff – it all got wiped in the end and I thought maybe they kinda just time traveld it was like a time jump where the ‘future part’ never happend
And in these cases its always ah it never happend and nobody remembers – but what if they did ?
What if the observer like the people of the world could remember the change and the fix – if they could know they were on both time lines in a way
I wonder like what creates a paradox like from a tv / thinking view to like real science if could happen
Like if someone is born – is their life the moment they are born connected on some time line or did we just make that up you know like I was thinking with Martha Jones in my fav Episode of Doctor Who – Gridlock – She says “If I die here my family would never know ” cause she was far in the future
I knew this all topic seems stupid but all this I was thinking about
In this case does her possible death in the future affect anything ??
Seriously do things like have a time line or not – example whats to say if Martha never made it back to present day — that wouldn’t create a split on the time line cause she is meant to have a life there or not ?
You always get the back in time affect things but why never a future affect like if Martha Jones or Fry in Futurama like example created a new invention while in the future for them – if they went back to present day and then died or something happen – this future event we all hear from films ect – doesn’t happen ? but its part of a future
But example Back to the future – by messing with a past event it affects all subsequent events on that time line of that event you know
What if someone knew changed history – does the what we know actually just all get erased or would people have like awareness of both time lines
In my book – I have a time travel thing and was thinking my main character has children but they are like some point in his past so if he died they disappear right but then I thought what if that grandfather paradox got doubled and one of his future children goes back and becomes the parent of him or like takes his place and then what happens if that child disappears who is like holding the time line together you know does the child over write the first paradox or does both happen ?
this is why I thought soo much about what is a paradox , how if could happen how does it work , why – like I said are we all connected to something the moment we are born or does it have to be like big events or changes to past – why is future like in Doctor Who always told that is in flux is subject to change kind of thing – sometimes like with Martha Jones she became a reason in Shakespeare Code everyone began using the phrase author and I know its sci fi but what if someone really could go back in time and re cover lost labours 1 would 100’s of years of it being the lost play vanish or would records of that exist still like if we say today – in a book somewhere in a Museum it says that’s the missing play or on a news report – and someone could go back and recover it – is it always back to future style where things can change like Twin Pine Car Park becoming Lone Pine Car Park cause Marty ran over the tree – would someone say holding or on CCTV having that this is the lost play would the words or just like everything every memory and recorded evidence of that change in a snap and it would be like that how it always was if someone recovered the ‘lost play’
Would it be lost if they took it from like 1600’s Shakespeare time to today would the people in between that time still know it as the lost play or even us modern cause it was in a way lost for all that time between or is that wrong like it would just change instant in all history or if they found the play and showed it around kept it in word of mouth extra in the 1600’s up to now – it would never be the lost play right ? and our past would change or not ?
Its like Back to Future – the family is fading away time line in flux ect but Marty ran over that tree right in the past so its lone Pine but at start of film its Twin and Doc Brown says so but technically it should have changed always been changed to lone pine or the moment the time machine Delorean was invented or Marty Sat in the car
What changed that car park – the invention of time machine or the tree being run over – in film its cause the tree but like in Doctor Who maybe or Neil Degrass Tyson talks – it would have been changed the moment the time machine existed right
Sorry I’ve gone on a long tangent but its really interesting yes we cant really test right now but actually what creates a paradox – what makes a time line its actually really like un thought of you know we see the common film ect stuff but actually the deeper pieces as to why is like mystery
Why is future able to mold even if the reason something change in future went back and never did that thing ?
I used to watch this kids show and I’ve tried soo hard over past years to find it but I cant genuinely its like one of the CBBC shows that has seemed to vanish which is a shame
But its like this kid – he invents things right – but in the future he is basically the best inventor ever and soo famous ect so his like Great Great Grandson or such goes back in time to help him when he is kid to make sure he becomes that inventor
Sometimes things do go as planned in the episodes so like in a thinking way the time line kinda changes or maybe is bent a little
But literally – A the kid isn’t the super Inventor yet so we have the classic I have a time machine I am the future like Terminator thing were the events haven’t occurred but the future people ect have experienced it and are going back
So what if that kid stopped inventing – what if he broke his arm or anything and I don’t remember apart from I am here to like guide you and make sure it happens you become the inventor but I don’t know if his Great Grandson or whatever goes to present day time because this kid isn’t gonna be an inventor or something has to change like he has to be guided ?? maybe not but I think in the final episodes it was kinda like the Grandson was an enabling factor as to why we all got here you know and if wasn’t for which is confusing like time travel is – if wasn’t for the child being super inventor of future and his grandson going back in time to learn from and guide him then we wouldn’t have got the super inventor and we wouldn’t have got the grandson going back
Cant anything on this time line break – what if the grandson went to the wrong time like a middle point or the kid just gave up inventing why is it that the future has to happen ??? why is it locked in in this case but currently the future observer knows that things need to be corrected in their past and to us present day the child inventor well its not like he is locked in but by his future like with the family member going back it locks him into keeping up the inventing ect right
I just don’t understand and maybe were not meant to be easy example Doctor Who – future always could change – this tv show the kid is like destined to become that future inventor but something is wrong and needs a future self to fix and guide past time line child so where did this wrong come from or was it like in the tv show way to learn at first but then became a founding reason this all happened ?
How can something be wrong in the time line and need to be fixed if it hasn’t happened ? but to future people its always happened but the thing is like with that show its not meant to happen in the wrong way like that kid is meant to be super inventor so if the grandson didn’t do anything that would change but then the kid would never be the inventor
Its like from here typing I can see like 3 times lines right
(A) like the how its meant to be says the film or tv show
the how it went wrong and so something needs to happen to shift it to (A)
But what they don’t say is how did they shift become observed like the something is wrong if 1 the time line was meant to happen (A) or be how can someone know of (A) but know its becoming like B ???
I know we all confused and maybe a waste of time but for my story I really wanna explore this stuff like if my time travel main character kicks the bucket we all know his future kids dissapare right cause like Back to Future style my main character to him hasnt had children yet but he has at somepoint that he skipped / time traveld over but if he doesnt get to that point then his future kids dont happen right
But what if that is occurring like I said but then one of his children goes back to and becomes like his Mother ect and then what if she doesn’t make it or the main character doesn’t have this child like what breaks – his Mother doesn’t happen then he doesn’t but if he is first on the time line then him breaking means daughter cant go time traveling but if he is alive and she goes back then all of sudden she become his Mother so what happens if either of them disappear
That’s what I was thinking about like a double paradox kinda like a time line lope where like we have time line then another one connects to it and like that orbaralis snake thing but as a time line connecting to another time line
I know maybe its a film thing to help us understand but I do think its intresting that in Back to The Future films – the like villian is always some ‘form’ of Bif like his Cowboy ancestory and Marty’s Cow Boy ancestor – and all the villian are Bif or future Bif but like that film thing were like maybe its some silly trope but when you go back in time can find someone who looks like you or the Bif Case no matter what time Marty goes to there is a Bif in a way maybe connected to his time line and ofcouse this doesnt happen in real life unless very rare case where like someone looks like thier decendent you know but what is that too just some funny film thing or like an actually idea in time travel – like Neil Degrass Tyson once told VSause 3 Jack right about this film where no matter what they main character did his partner or whoever always died – its in Doctor Who terms a fixed point in time – say dont do go here she goes elsewhere and is run over by a car you know that butterfly final destiantion effect where its always got to be – and in Back to Future films I know has a trilogy and good use of character ect and time travel they always had a Bif representation but is that a legit thing if you started time traveling like with the grandfather paradox if someone could see from the outside and the present wasnt instantly changed like back to future lone pine car park effect would someone not see 1 A photo of you present day then B a photo of your grandparent and think they are same face ect – it makes you wonder if Marty is like creating multiple time lines or something and he is in a way making multip Bifs and Multiple people in his past (we only been as far back as cowboy times) that look like him that could actually be him
Like one of my fav cartoon shows – Bravest Warriors 🙂 they have the whole series’s arcs or such about Chris and his future time lines and like there is a joke like this is you in future like 80 years old – this is you 200 , ect ect this is you when your strong – all these Chris’s are meant to exist but in a clip he changes that (I havnt seen full series) but thats like that its meant to be future effect but thats all of Chris’s life but back to future kinda does that in reverse even if they dont say so like its not said if that is cowboy Marty or somehow his ancestory looks like him is that a time line effect or what ofcouse for the film they dont focuse on that but its something really intresting
Thank you for listening 🙂
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Regards – Declan Sargent
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