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30 January 2013 at 17:20 #2147
could our impossible woman have been scattered through the timerverse by some sort of Tardis mishap? Bad Wolf in humonoid form?
@rob – yes indeed – and that TARDIS mishap could have been the exploding TARDIS could it not? If Oswin’s scattering in time/ space was a result of “Big Bang 2” that would be great, because it would mean that Moffat was tying it all together rather than just moving on and leavin loose threads behind.
Personally, I’m convinced we will return to “Big Bang 2″ plot-wise because of the”Silence Will Fall” hissing voice in the TARDIS as River got stuck in its time-loopy explosion, particularly given that the theme of “”The Silence” is not over yet.
Rebooting the universe is some pretty big mojo and I wonder whether hubris is involved…
30 January 2013 at 23:59 #2207I think if you had to rebel against a culture, the Timelords would be a prime candidate, wouldn’t it?
Ostensibly non-interventionist and peaceful (because of that time they pretended to be gods to the Minyans) ever since their introduction, there has been an aura of unpleasantness about them.
They practice the death penalty (the War Games) not only to one of their own, but to a lesser species who had access to their technology. They were equally willing to extend this courtesy to the fifth Doctor in the “Arc of Infinity” when he had committed no crime.
The reference to the “plebeian” classes (Deadly Assassin) said it all – not all Gallifrayans were Timelords. Dissent against the status quo seemed to be dealt with by forcing you to become an outcast (Invasion of Time).
As I remember, the fourth Doctor was outraged about the casual way the Timelords had covered up their timelock of the destruction of the fifth planet (Image of the Fendahl) and their instruction to him to commit genocide, and generally clean up the mess they’d left in other affairs, such as their execution of Morbius.
I think the tendency of those in power to go a bit mad, rode on a bigger wave of general “we’re the Timelords. We’re all powerful. Challenge us, and we’ll timelock you, or try to ensure you never existed in the first place.”
Nice people! No wonder he ran away. I honestly do not think Moffat would bring them back like that, with the Doctor in virtual chains to someone else – He may set up the return, but I don’t think he’d want to script it.
31 January 2013 at 21:27 #2233Was just musing on 50th Anniversary Special and had a thought that really belongs here…..
Also whilst wandering up and down the garden path, having a cig and staring at the stars, an idle thought regarding Tardis’s Tardiss’ Tardisi is not the Masters own Tardis still stuck somewhere in the Year 100 Trillion (or thereabouts) on Malcassario?
Bear with me….
So could our Impossible Woman be the Masters Idris?31 January 2013 at 21:30 #2235Anonymous @
@rob…
I’ve been wondering about the Master’s TARDIS and where the hell it was too. I love the idea that Oswin could be the Master’s IDRIS. That would be fab. I’ve always wanted to see a companion who might turn proper evil, or vacillate between the two. Always thought that the Master would work best if he had some kind Faith/Harley Quinn figure…
31 January 2013 at 22:26 #2237Clara as Master’s IDRIS: Sounds cool, but does it not assume that everyone watching is aware that the Master’s TARDIS is stuck away somewhere in time and space? But would everyone watching know that? I think that requires too much specialist knowledge on the part of the audience (age 7 to 70). It also goes back to the point of how much Moffat consciously draws on, or avoids, the ideas and plot details of other writers. I would say he overwhemingly avoids.
In “Asylum of the Daleks” he simply ignores what has gone before. Skaro is still in existence, millions of Daleks are still in existence. My point is that I think while Moffat draws on characters/monsters from pre-Moffat Who, he is less concerned about “canon”. I think I am right in saying that there has not been one story under Moffat which could only take place because of what a pre-Moffat writer developed. He draws on characters (Silurians, Daleks, Cybermen, etc) from the show’s past, but does the way he uses those characters actually depend on what had happened pre-Moffat?
This is why I think the answer to “who is Clara?” (or “who is the Doctor?” for that matter) will lie in the narrative universe that Moffat has created since “The 11th Hour”.
Now to have another coffee and ponder on whether what I just said is complete bobbins.
1 February 2013 at 02:04 #2239This is why I think the answer to “who is Clara?” (or “who is the Doctor?” for that matter) will lie in the narrative universe that Moffat has created since “The 11th Hour”
I don’t think that is bobbins, in fact I’d say “Nail on Head”.
I’d suggest that Moffat loves the history of the show, but doesn’t feel absolutely bound by it. I think if you managed to tie him down and question him on the Skaro question, he’d simply respond – “well, Sylvester McCoy blew it up, and the eighth Doctor movie bought it back – it’s in play!”
I think your instinct that he trying to lock things into his own timeframe are correct. I think we will see this pattern repeating. RTD did his melding of kitchen sink drama to his “Lonely God” and it was largely self contained. I think Moffat’s dark fairytale with his “madman in a box” will be the same. I am still drawn to the idea of her being an artificial construct created by the Doctor in some way. Another fairytale, the artificial girl who wanted to be real.
Wishing my life away, but Easter cannot come quick enough!
1 February 2013 at 12:51 #2257@blenkinsopthebrave and @phaseshift — yep, I think that Moffatt is definitely going for self-contained rather than pulling some stuff in from RTD etc. Although I love the Master’s TARDIS idea I don’t really think that’s the direction he’ll go in either. (Although it would be relatively easy to explain it in a couple of lines. But Master’s TARDIS, means the Master showing up at some point and I’m not sure we’re going to see him back just yet — although it is inevitable he’ll be returning at some point, I guess.)
Personally while I wish it was Easter right now, I’m still smarting at what seems to me to be a bit of an underwhelming 50th anniversary year. What amounts to eight episodes of new Who seems a bit poor for such a major milestone. I wonder if the docu-drama was taken out of the show’s budget because if it was I’m pretty sure it shouldn’t have been really as it’s a free-standing piece of drama in its own right. It just seems to me that Moffatt’s line about there being more Who on in 2013 than ever before has once again turned out to be a tissue of hype and untruth.
1 February 2013 at 18:14 #2263@jimthefish I think, from this video, that Moffat means the Doctor will be everywhere AFTER the current series has finished, although he’s giving nothing away.
1 February 2013 at 23:14 #2275Hmm kept his cards very close to his chest regarding Dr. Who
Perhaps the place he is at is trawling the boards for ideas <tongue firmly in cheek>
1 February 2013 at 23:39 #2277@rob Brilliant idea! Should we list them all for him?
1 February 2013 at 23:42 #2279Tongue also firmly in cheek…
Apart from anything else, the list would be endless
2 February 2013 at 02:13 #2281Re the Moffat interview – @jimthefish – keep the faith. He’s timing the announcements to make sure he gets the press when he wants it. Tease for 50th now, but defer most of the speculation to the second half of the year. Focus things on 7.2 for now. A drama-doc and a longer episode (60? i thought I’d read 90 mins) doesn’t constitute “all over TV” for Moff!
@rob – and yes, of course he’s trawling the boards 🙂 (Can you imagine the pressure! That “I don’t want to disappoint” comment and the haunted look!)
Should we send him an invite to this forum? 🙂
2 February 2013 at 03:18 #2283Maybe we could leave easter eggs for Moffat, with the message: “Bring back Canton”
2 February 2013 at 06:52 #2285Egg-cellent idea Mr BtB 😀
2 February 2013 at 11:26 #2291@scaryb maybe because I registered with my Guardian name and then put my real name in the call me box…. I’m a mud hengineer not a puter hengineer :p
Perhaps Mr Craig can fix me?
Also just been watching River in the Library and she calls 10 “That IMPOSSIBLE man” and that wierd little bell went ding in my head…… Clara is a Timelord
Maybe one more mug of bobbins… one sugar please
2 February 2013 at 11:49 #2293Hi @rob, (whose name has no link) Yes, she could be a Time Lord, but why did she seem so innocent of the Tardis when she first saw it?
Well…faking it, I suppose, but…
2 February 2013 at 11:56 #2295@rob Clara as the Master’s Idris is a fantastic idea and if it turns out she isn’t, then a Who writer in the future should definitely run with this as an arc plot, maybe even much further ahead, say for the next incarnation of the Doctor (noooooooooooooooooooo Matt, don’t leave us!)
A companion who really breaks the Doctor’s hearts as the result of a betrayal would be an excellent story.
2 February 2013 at 12:00 #2299A companion who really breaks the Doctor’s hearts as the result of a betrayal would be an excellent story.
@juniperfish, @phaseshift (also suggested bad-sort companion) – you two are evil!
I like it
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2 February 2013 at 12:02 #2301@rob – MUD hengineer? V impressive, but conjures up pics of big shovels, diggers and pails. And lots of muddy mess 🙂
2 February 2013 at 12:14 #2303Bad thought. I hope Clara doesn’t turn out to be a Teselecta or something of that kind. @rob whose name has no link (actually I like that. It has a good ring to it; a bit of timlordish mystery.) I hope that Clara is a Timelord though I am not sure how to explain the continual dying.
I like the idea that Moffat might be reading through all our Bobbins theories, having the occasional chuckle and finding a little inspiration but I doubt he has time.
Cheers
Janette
2 February 2013 at 12:18 #2305@scaryb yes my posh title is geotechnical engineer but I make giant mudpies for a living…. when there is work that is lol
When I posted about Idris/Clara I didn’t see her as being potentially evil just because she was the Masters Tardis…. but that could really work… I was thinking more of a being that could move through time, be complex, mess with Daleks (as Rose did when Tardis Bad Wolf Eye Heart thingy). I thought a Tardis would be it’s own entity. But this could be a way to bring the Master back too. Especially if he has a lucky hand stashed too.
The Doctor and his Tardis stole each other but the Master (and maybe the Timelords as a whole) seemed to use his as machine not an entity. Tardis=Timelord Ood? relationship.
2 February 2013 at 14:59 #2325@rob ( @srwbyzer ) Yes, it’s because of a disconnect between login name and display name. I’ll look for a fix when I have a bit more time, although I think it may involve changing your login name to Rob.
I have the same issue for Bobbingbird and IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan.
But if anyone wants to link to you they can use the link I have, which can be got by hovering over your name and looking at the URL.
I’ve since updated the Register page so people use the same for both. Apologies – early teething problems which will hopefully not last too long.
3 February 2013 at 11:16 #2333on another thread, @blenkinsopthebrave was asking for more bonkers theorising, so here goes…
Clara is a manifestation of the Great Intelligence. Have we had that one before?
So, what basis for this… well, I’m on thin ice (reaches for coat) but Oswin (“I snow”) was never enough of a clue but got me thinking…The GI was able to infect/take over computers before… did it take over the Tardis and make it explode… scattering itself (“I snow”) throughout time… but still not quite right…
But if I was a Great Intelligence trying to find the Dr in order to battle him, appearing as the ‘same’ attractive young woman throughout time, would be the bait I’d use!
bonkers enough?
3 February 2013 at 11:41 #2337@whisht I was just pondering on this too as I wikipedia’ered the GI stories of yester-Who and it would make a ripping yarn.
The one problem I see is that the Doctor is looking hard at/for Clara and it would have to be a really cunning disguise to make Clara a wrong-un and fool him. This also makes it harder for Clara to be a bad Tardis girl too
@janetteb Craig has stuffed me back into a pocket watch (with extra bobbins) so I appear normal (well as close as I can get)
3 February 2013 at 12:13 #2341Just rewatched the beginning of the Christmas episode and the letters G.I are really featured. I did not really pick up on them on first viewing as I was unaware of the significance. I suspect the Great Intelligence might well become the “big bad” for the series and that Clara is indeed linked to “It”. The date of her birth is the same year that the Dr first met Victoria who went on to become a servant of the Great Intelligence, in a spinoff video Downtime. (which I have not yet seen) Though I doubt that is canon or will have any relevance to the T.V. series.
I agree @rob, the G.I would make for a “ripping yarn.” @whisht .There was some bonkers speculating on the Guardian thread about Clara as the Great Intelligence but it was so long ago, and so many more bonkers theories have flown under the bridge since that it has been forgotten.
Cheers
Janette
3 February 2013 at 13:05 #2345Downtime – I’d point out that this was the story that introduced the Brigadier’s daughter, Kate Lethbridge-Stewart. And of course, we saw her in the first part of the series.
3 February 2013 at 16:05 #2351@whisht – I hadn’t come across Oswin as “I snow” before – love your theory that the GI could have been the one responsible for the exploding TARDIS (and therefore presumably the “silence will fall” hiss?).
What would connect the Great Intelligence to the Silence or indeed to silence? Any ideas anyone? Is its other name “The Great Bringer of Mute-ness”?
Clara as bait is also a nice idea. She keeps dying to intrigue the Doctor (who also likes a pretty face) so that he will follow her trail like breadcrumbs until… OR, maybe she is a double agent “Run you clever boy, and remember…” being a coded warning.
Now, does the GI like green eggs and ham, soufles, or other egg-baked goods so we can make another tenuous connection? 🙂
4 February 2013 at 06:35 #2373Ah, @juniper fish, did yo mean “green egos and ham”?
An envious, slightly overacting Intelligence?
(slips out door)
4 February 2013 at 23:37 #2395Did someone order a bonkers theory?
@blenkinsopthebrave & @phaseshift – confine speculation to just moffatts own universe? OK I can work with that: I can easily buy the idea that moffatt has a vision and is hubristic enough to only work within the narrative reach of his own creation(s).
However, though moffatt doesn’t tend to reference other Who writers, he does tend to overtly reference external influences, which brings me too …
@whisht … “i snow” eh? Well moffat has appropriated the time travellers wife for the concept of River (a love story out of sequence). Is it possible he’s now referencing Neal Stephensons seminal Snowcrash? There are some interesting parallels – Snowcrash includes:
-word(s) as a virus that affect/reprogram both humans and computers (hello Clara?)
-the virus is protected by a religious cult (“Cult of Asherah” – the Silence is a religious order, as are the Headless Monks, Anglican marines and Father Octavian’s lot.)
-the linguistic virus/computer virus is both the personification of and the creation of a goddess (Asherah. Oswin means goddess, I think we established somewhere?)
-ancient humans were immunised from the language virus by essentially losing the ability to speak the original language (sumerian). Silence will fall, so that the question will not be asked?
-the story moves interchangeably between the real world and an artificial construct called the Metaverse. Clara lived in an artificual world, River ended up in one and we’ve speculated that the fairy tale tinged universe actually is one.
As a writer I think moffatt would be powerfully drawn to the idea of words that are the low level programming language of the brain. To some extent, River has said as much (with the “what Doctor means” speech).
Which (finally) brings me to: what do we make of moffatts recent statement “the doctors greatest secret is in jeopardy” for the next 8 episodes?
One obvious interpretation is that someone will uncover who he really is. The doctors real name seems to be part of this, which implies he’s not “nobody”, but a name that’s significant, that will be recognised or is important. I’ve never liked the idea he’s “someone” for the reasons I’ve given elsewhere – but the above might give an alternative explanation for why the Doctors name is significant and can’t be revealed. His name is in fact one such powerful (deadly, even) word.
It also explains why the doc must keep his name hidden when no other Timelord apparently seems to (Master excepting).
I’m feeling this idea has the lowest Bobbins Quotient (B.Q.) yet. Thoughts anyone?
No coffee was harmed in the formulation of this theory.
4 February 2013 at 23:39 #2397Something else I stumbled upon – an interview with the cast
where karen seems to indicate there’s a little more to her/rivers story: “[in answer too not being] allowed to physically raise Melody from a baby? … there’s a pretty huge revelation along those lines … we are going to learn something very, very vital to that story line. And it’s going to be dealt with through that”Best guess: Amy & Rory are finally revealed to have found and raised the newly regenerated River/Mel in New York after all.
Also – anyone else notice the omega symbol on Melody Ponds cot?
a) seems like the reoccuring omega symbol (e.g. alpha-omega insignia) is not a coincidence
b) seems like melody/river might still be involved/significant
c) I can’t help also noticing River was named after the river in the Gamma Forest. Too many Greek letters to be a coincidence (and also that the doctor kept telling young Lorna Bucket to “run” …)I don’t think the River story has quite “run” its clever course …
5 February 2013 at 00:27 #2401@haveyoufedthefish. Well, I asked for a bonkers theory, and have you delivered!
I must read Snowcrash.
I really like your explanation of why the River story might still be active.
I also think that Moffat has established The Doctor to be significant. All the references to Easter, Santa Claus, etc. Even The Doctor being tired with his role as saviour of the human race. Although what I am about to say may contradict my idea that Moffat does not reference the ideas of other writers, I confess I think back to the hint in “The Remembrance of the Daleks” that The Doctor was involved, with Rassilon and Omega, in the development of the Hand of Omega. And if involved, presumably as important (more important?) as those two. As I type this, I am not sure I buy into what I have just said, but…
However, your post was brilliant! Definitely more bonkers than bobbins.
Think of what could be done with the addition of coffee!
5 February 2013 at 02:40 #2407@blenkinsopthebrave – yes you absolutely must! Neuromancer, Snowcrash and Accelerando are all superb books with very different takes on what it means to be a human living inside the machine. All cracking good page turners, to boot.
The Altered Carbon trilogy is a stonking good read too, with a take on what it’s like to be “sleeved” (sometimes involuntarily, and sometimes technically reborn) in new bodies around the galaxy – maybe this is a influence for Clara too …
5 February 2013 at 21:15 #2413@haveyoufedthefish: re: fall of the eleventh- fall from grace- I think that’s credible, given the whole ‘risen-fallen’ aspect of AGMGTW. That meaning has been established.
I seem to remember (ignoramus that I am)around the time 9 ended people saying it was unfortunate after one series because there is a limited number of regenerations. Is that the case? If so, how many were there?
5 February 2013 at 21:29 #2417and, HaveYouFedTheFish: I did wonder about the photographs in the children’s home in TDOTM was it? Didn’t strike me as shots taken at Devils run. River was, undoubtedly, alone, scared and a child in America at a certain point. I do want there to be more, and more about the Gamma forest. It seemed to mean more than just a way to tell him ‘Doctor means warrior to some, you’re getting scary.’ Why would River Song use the Gamma forest version of her name rather than the given version of Melody Pond? Who was the solider who died fighting with them? At the time I assumed the doctor left at the end to go find her there, and that was when he met the solider.
(But then again, I also thought that Rory was actually the good man River kills, because he went all Anakin-Skywalker to Darth Vader about what happened to his wife and child and she had to kill him before he put on an astronaut costume (for no good reason, but made a change from Roman) and killed the Doctor. In retrospect, a tad maybe too dark for DW, and I love Rory, so thankfully I was wrong.)
6 February 2013 at 03:12 #2423@miapatrick – In Mawdryn Undead it was more or less obliquely confirmed that a time lord can only have 12 regenerations (13 incarnations) and the doctor at the time was on his 5th (i.e. that there was no incarnations before Hartnell). In the Sarah Jane adventures the Doctor states that he can regenerate 507 times – but there’s a good chance he was just being flippant (and tbh 507 doesn’t really fit with the idea that the Master used up all his regenerations. You’d really have to be regeneration-happy to get through more than 500)
I had forgotten about the photos I’ll dig around for some copies and see if inspires some mad thoughts!
6 February 2013 at 04:40 #2425@haveyoufedthefish, I think the revelation referred to in the cast interview was the split in their relationship over Amy’s inability to have children. If we do learn that Melody/River was contacted by her parents in the U.S. I think it will by through passings comments, provided of course we do meet River again. I have a suspicion that River is now part of a tale that has been told. Moffat is not good at tidying up loose ends. I think he prefers to move on to new material, setting up not resolving is his strong point as a writer, leaving narrative trails for the viewer to toy with.
I suspect that for this series he is looking for something new and fishing through old Who for inspiration because there are a lot of “baddies” that have been left to gather dust for decades. The references to past stories will be there but the new stories won’t rely upon the audience picking them up. Those are “easter eggs” for us attentive fans.
I think the photos suggest that Amy at least visited Melody though her childhood though she might have been unable to rescue her. I am not sure that Moffat would have been planning to eventually leave Amy and Rory in the U.S. when TDOTM was written though maybe I am not giving him the credit for forward planning that he unquestionably deserves. I got the impression that the final scene where she regenerates in the back alley is in New York. Maybe she was looking for them. I doubt that Madam Kovarian would have told her much about her Mum and Dad but she certainly new of them because she eventually found her way to Leadworth. Maybe that was through the intervention of the Doctor at a later point in his time stream. umm. He could not have found her in New York however because he can’t visit there. Ah this wibbley wobbley timey wimey stuff. My head’s spinning.
Cheers
Janette
6 February 2013 at 04:41 #2427And I have just realised that entire ramble was off topic. More what won’t be in series 7 than what will. Ducks head scurries off to work.
Cheers
Janette
6 February 2013 at 07:14 #2431@janetteb I think you’re spot on with that last post tho I for one will be devastated if that was River’s last appearance! However, she’s still out there – we’ve already met her at various stages in her life, we know she has access to time travel independently of the Doctor – so there’s no reason she couldn’t be brought back.
@miapatrick Re regenerations – there’s also Let’s Kill Hitler when River apparently donated her remaining regenerations to the Doctor, so we should be fine for the foreseeable future 🙂
I’m hoping the Great Intelligence will be back this series <sneakily yanks thread back on-topic> but he/it’s got competition for possiible BigBad (from beginning of Matt’s time) from Omega and Stephen Berkoff’s character (in Power of 3 (I know that was probably a one off but would love to see more of a Time Lord myth)). And no doubt Moff’s got something completely different up his sleeve!
6 February 2013 at 18:35 #2437@janetteb – that was the first thing I thought of too, but it doesn’t quite gel with the way Karen phrased it. It was huge (and awful) revelation, but it doesn’t “deal” with “[not being] allowed to physically raise Melody from a baby” as Karen phrased it. Karen phrases it like the revelation she means mitigates the Melody tragedy, not compound it further.
I’m probably reading to much into phrasing by an actor caught with a difficult plot question on the hoof, and given that they didn’t even know that River was her mother at the time of production (they apparently filmed the end of AGMGTW in such as way that only some of the crew knew, but almost all the cast didn’t, even if they were in the scene) I can’t believe that Karen actually has any knowledge of future events, only what they’ve already filmed (and even then, maybe not exactly what they’ve filmed means in context).
So on balance, you’re probably right – unless they’ve already filmed her future scenes, of course, while on location in NY (handily with a limited core crew with less chance of a leak) …
6 February 2013 at 18:52 #2441@miapatrick – I dug up 2 photos:
http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/16/dw602-2.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110831163047/tardis/images/8/86/Amy-and-baby-melody.jpg
Although there minor continuity problems (e.g. hair up instead of down) there’s nothing that explicitly rules out the picture being taken at Demons Run. Side by side seems highly plausible, in fact.
6 February 2013 at 20:44 #24457 February 2013 at 03:52 #2451@haveyoufedthefish thanks for linking to the pics. I think they are meant to have been taken at Demons Run. That is a new born or as new born as Melody at Demon’s Run. So maybe they didn’t ever visit and it was the Dr who provided the photos for her. Moffat was being more cruel than I realised.
Cheers
Janette
9 February 2013 at 13:16 #2549in terms of wild speculation, and although I actually don’t really believe it, and I’ve said before that I was giving up on the anagrams(!), an anagram of “Clara Oswin Oswald” is:
“DW is now also Clara”a regeneration at the end of the year into JLC??? As I say, even I don’t believe this but just wanted to give @blenkinsopthebrave a bit of bonkersness.
And another for blenkinsopthevbrave could be a tie in to the Hand of Omega.
Dr HoO?
9 February 2013 at 15:52 #2553Hah! Whisht, I have already been there. But it was on one of the Guardian blog boards, I’m fairly sure, so I forgive you.
It would definitely be one way to have a regeneration where the identity of the next Doctor could be a total secret; she’s already on-set as the Companion.
On a minor note, I was sort-of-watching The Rebel Flesh last night, and I noticed that Matt Smith’s modulated voice (when the flesh is becoming the Doctor) does indeed sound awfully like the ‘Silence Will Fall’ voice in the TARDIS. Doesn’t have to mean anything; if they haven’t cast the actor yet, they might have got Smith to do the line.
But – two Doctors? Or an Omega who is again taking on the form of the Doctor?
10 February 2013 at 14:37 #2595I have the same issue for Bobbingbird and IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan.
Pfft. Not a problem, a challenge!
10 February 2013 at 14:40 #2597BTW, I think that (much like his approach to Sherlock) Moff will freely reference and homage Classic Who, but will not feel in any way bound by it. He is as likely to be inspired by the JJ Abraham’s Star Trek reboot (original and new Spock and all) as by The Abominable Snowmen.
1 March 2013 at 10:33 #2969Reposting @wolfweed‘s link: http://doctorwho.tumblr.com/
Thoughts? Because one big thought it gives me is – remember those weird newspaper articles, the ones that are nearly fifty years apart? Doesn’t this poster look like ‘Time is shattered’?
1 March 2013 at 10:35 #2971The poster has already been, er, posted but there’s a bit more info in this post on the Beeb’s official site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/
Including among the known guest stars a certain Richard E Grant. I’m assuming that this means a return of the Great Intelligence — this year’s Big Bad maybe? Does this mean that we’ll be seeing Yeti by the end of the year? If so, then Smithy’s definitely having a really quite Troughton-ey year of it….
2 March 2013 at 14:52 #2995I’m not sure what is more delicious – having this poster to graze over OR the knowledge that in 28 days time IT’S BACK!
I suppose it’s shards from The Shard, but it does feel “shattered” as @bluesqueakpip says. There may be life in the “one person fragmented through time” theory yet.
Other stuff:
After a costume that many said riffed on the first two Doctors for the Christmas Special, is it just me or does the purple coat and motorcycle seem to be a little homage to Pertwee? Wonder if we’ll get scarfs ‘n’ jellybabies, sticks of celery, etc. in subsequent episodes.
The reflections/mirroring in the glass fragments. Well there is a fair bit to chew on in there.
As they are now mentioned specifically on the BBC website, I’ll just say that the images of the Ice warriors in the shards look very cool, and having seen a behind the scenes shot of the new Cybermen, I am now officially over-excited with the potential for this next run.
If only it was 28 days later (without the rage filled suspiciously zombie like people).
2 March 2013 at 16:11 #2999In case anyone missed the new poster, here it is – click to enlarge.
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