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@timeloop

That chart you linked to is pretty awesome. Thanks 🙂

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Re Dalek underwater

Just struck me just now,  I like to think it influenced the very similar scene in Copolla’s Apocalypse Now. (Towards the end, Martin Sheen’s character. Sorry, can’t find the clip). In some timey wimey way!

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@htpbdet @arkleseizure

For me, the iconic scene of the Dalek emerging from the Thames represents, in a very fundamental way, the concept of aliens invading Earth, regardless of whether or not they have invaded, are about to invade or are invading.

I have to agree with that. It was jawdropping to watch at the time. In one very short scene, with no words – right at the end of the episode – it brought the daleks to earth AND not only overcame the “they can’t do stairs” thing… but, but… it was HIDING UNDER THE WATER!  The Dr Who-world shifted. Nowhere was safe any more.

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@phaseshift @arkleseizure @htpbdet

Yeah, been thinking about rewatch order too.  It seems to be evolving organically in the right order!  I’m more than happy to do b/w (you have to ask????!), but would prefer if it wasn’t a reconstruction, although I know it limits choice. Would be good to do Hatnell and Troughton justice. An Unearthly Child just before the 50th is a great idea.  I really liked Terror of the Autons, so happy with that for Pertwee. I suggest @htpbdet nominates the Troughton one. 🙂

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@whisht @juniperfish (j-fish..????? we miss u 🙁 ) @miapatrick @chickenelly @htpbdet @steve-thorp @shazzbot @janetteb @wolfweed @arkleseizure and everyone

We can always loop back to Androzani end of Aug/Sep;  it’s a good idea to put the movie link on Faces thread, and I agree it’s better to come to it via McCoy.  And might be nice for the younger newbies on here to have a more recent take on the Dr.

What do others think?

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For @MadScientist72 (and @fatmaninabox ) – you and me both 😉 Thanks for making this my personal background soundtrack for today. Little Feat featuring the irrepaceable Lowell George

<waves @shazzbot > Thanks for Bill Withers, that was great.   I love this too (Bill again)  (Hanky warning on this one 🙂 )

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OK, Ghostlight‘s fine with me – actually I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.  Maybe easier for AG fans, since as @jimthefish says there are similarities to BG Who in the treatment; And you’re right – if we MUST do the movie (and I suppose we should) we should probably watch something from the series immediately before it. McCoy and McGann are worth a watch for themelves tho.

@nick Is The Daleks serial complete or is it reconstructed do you know? (You should plot a viewing route through all the dalek stories, for the future 😉 )

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PS 😆 @jimthefish and @wolfweed

Don’t worry – plans are already in place to break you both out of the Tower of London when the authorities catch up with you! Kate L-S says she’ll help!!

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What’s our Saturday 5.30 viewing for this week btw, now that the wonderful Talons is finished?

A couple of people have suggested Caves of Androzani… that’d get my vote just cos I’ve got it on DVD 🙂 but open to the majority vote. The TV Movie’s also been mentioned… <small shudder 😉 >

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@nick @phaseshift

For what it’s worth, I think it works like this – there’s been a bit of backtracking to different Drs and, yes, @htpbdet‘s brilliant blogs on various Drs as alternative.

The homepage has been pretty dynamic so far, responding to what’s topical, so things come and go in prominance, or go to sleep when they’re not newsy.  if someone makes a comment in an old thread it shows up in activity so will pull people in if there’s interest. But maybe it’s easier for those of us who have been here from the start to know what there is…

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Hi @fatmaninabox <waves>

Patience everyone! As @phaseshift says, it’s not like anyone gets to see the actual show before us 😉  Yes they could have put it on the web the next day, but who knows – maybe there’s an exclusivity clause in the CC contract. Maybe they want to do build the UK public campaign properly from September. (I’m back to being positve for now)

@phaseshift

They seem to prefer it small, provincial, and probably doomed to failure

Nail. Head. That way it’s still theirs.   We superior fans however know and understand the value of deferred  gratification… @wolfweed!!!! WHY HAVEN’T YOU FOUND A LEAKED TRAILER YET??!!!

Meanwhile Time Magazine listed our fav show as the no 2 highlight at ComicCon (along with Hunger Games and after Superman v Batman).  That’s pretty good for a 50 yr old UK TV show. Who’d’ve predicted that in 1990?! 😀

 

 

 

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So there I was, happily working my through @wolfweed‘s Comic con clips, and thinking “that’s a pretty major thing for our wee Dr Who to be making what looks like a pretty big impact at” and feeling kinda proud (not to mention being excited about the pics and the propect of seeing the trailer (hopefully sooner rather than later 😉 but basically excited that things seem to be coming together, and only another month to wait  till the BBC’s campaign really starts to kick ass (stupid to launch anything in July/Aug))… and then I clicked on @jimthefish‘s Radio Times link – the comments are even worse! ARSE fans on the rampage.

Thanks again to @craig and everyone here who make this such a special place 🙂

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It’s been really interesting doing these retrospectives. It’s amazing how much you forget especially the ones pre Graun blog. Like how much you missed Tennant and at the same time thinking – How amazing is Matt Smith?!

It’s a remarkable first episode (for both actor and showrunner), and as @bluesqueakpip says above – Matt  completely sold his Dr from the off. I really won’t be surprised if there are threads from this  looping into the 50th and/or the end of Matt’s tenure. Knowing that they picked up on young Amelia so much later on  adds poignancy.

Watching again reminded me of the anomaly of Rory’s ID card – which also reminded me of the funny little anachromisms in the The Snowmen.

It’s a bold statement of what Moffat wanted do with the show.

BUT. 65 minutes. If that’s what he’s comfortable with, that’s what he should get!!

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@craig, well maybe not this one, but maybe soon!

Now we just need some bad person to post that trailer somewhere!

Ha! You know me and spoilers, but would love to see that. I trust the Moff (ha! have I learned nothing??) when he says it gives nothing away.  If I’d a friend in San Diego (and the wherewithall) I’d be kicking myself for not having got tickets 6 months ago!! London in Nov will be better though

Where’s our Finder-in-Chief @wolfweed???

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@craig Keep the faith! Remember what you said about there may just be the one out there that we can turn (hehehe).  There is, and you will.

I loved @wolfweed‘s posts of the Comic con panels – everyone was on great form. And those dalek pics quite perked me up!  We all need some more bonkers theorising… or more silly videos 😉

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@whisht Tardis4 came to mind!

@craig

Recommend you two watch the vid I posted at #14272 (just above).  It’s very, very silly 😀

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This found me earlier and absolutely made my day! Laurel & Hardy dance the Dr –

 

This should possibly go in fan creativity so please feel free to move o ye mighty mods 😉

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@bluesqueakpip @juniperfish @craig and anyone else who was trying to get tickets for the convention in Nov – I finally got a reply to my email to Crowdsurge (who were organising the ticket sale). They were very apologetic and confirmed it was down to pressure of numbers – “approximately 45000 people signed up for the presale compared to a capacity of less than half of that in terms of tickets across all three days”

It’s amazing we got through at all!

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Lovely red/blue spot. (And where is @juniperfish these days…?)

Another notable thing which worked in its favour – this episode is 65 mins long.  It’s packed, but it has time to breathe.

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@blenkinsopthebrave I agree with you re the setting. Interesting thought re McGann. No probs with that

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Great links @wolfweed (and thanks for putting the trailer breakdown in Spoilers <must not got here! must not go there!> )  Moffat’s comment after screening: “You’ve seen nothing, trust me…” and later: “I’ve been lying my arse off for months”

Some great interviews – loved the Matt/Jenna/Moff (oops – he gets spikey when it’s Matt, Jenna and… not Steven!) one (from Sat I think). Some great banter.  I also loved how COMPLETELY poker faced Moffat is when interviewed on his own re 50th, new Dr etc

Nice spot on the possible Gallifrey setting @janetteb (Those dalek pics look great, don’t they. You can’t grudge them daleks for the 50th. Can feel a bonkers theory or 2 coming on!!)

PS For anyone worried that the dalek pics are spoilery – they’re everywhere – you could only avoid them by staying off the net

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@blenkinsopthebrave Just adding my sympathies to@janetteb ‘s re your difficult life! Good to see you back. Bonkers theorising was pretty much stopped in its tracks with Matt’s announcement. It’s having a breather till Sept (not a fixed poiint, but most likely). Unless you want to start it again now.

And I agree re allocating credit for the daleks. The directors Christopher Barry (episodes 1,2,4,5) and Richard Martin (3, 6, 7) should also get credit, and script editor David Whittaker. But as you say, Terry Nation was so effective in claiming it all for himself that changing the balance in any way is welcome. Not to mention whoever had the genius idea of turning people “negative” when they were shot. I was sorry that stopped happening with later daleks. I never thought the gas effect worked half as well.

@wolfweed – is there anything you can’t find on the net…??

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Have to say am in total agreement with @craig

And @htpbdet and @bluesqueakpip Am awestruck at your patience and tolerance!! 😀

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@craig @Shazzbot

I posted an image with cut and paste (it’s only on my computer) of the Tartan Dalek – http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/on-the-sofa-part-2/page/6/#post-13112

(have done the odd one before)

It’s not a big issue, it’s just that it worked before and I can’t work out what I did diferently. Don’t worry it’s most likely me!

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@wolfweed

Thanks for the Tom Baker link

That’s really interesting about previous Doctors not talking to each other about being the Doctor. Especially since both Smith and Tennant mentioned T giving S advice (well along general lines anyway, go and enjoy it). But whether they discussed each other’s take on it after Matt was in post… that’s a different thing.  Sounds like TB is leaving a lot of opinion unsaid 😉

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@Shazzbot @htpbdet et al

While I like your explanations (and am relieved there are a few options 🙂 ) for why Clara apparently sees no future Doctors in his timeline, there is also the other possibility – that Smith’s incarnation is the last.

Looking at what Clara says (rather than relying on the snapshots of what she does) – “I saw all your faces – all eleven” Combined with the similarities of Smith’s TARDIS to the dying one (the interior design and the matching window cracks) there is definitely a suggestion that this at least a possibility.  I’m fine if it turns out to be one of those Moff red herring phrases like “…secret the Dr will take to his grave. It is discovered”

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@bluesqueakpip

Sorry – ignore all of that previous post

<rubs chin, flummoxed. It worked that way before   Hides head in shame as geek status goes down the tubes!>

Over to @craig I think…

(for info, with jpg, it looks like it’s pasted – there’s an image in the preview, but not after it’s published)

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Hi @bluesqueakpip

Assuming you’re on a PC, and it’s a jpg file,  right click on a pic in explorer (you don’t have to open it, but you can do it that way as well) on your computer, select copy, then just paste wherever you want it to appear. eg

1 page pdfs are more complicated, unless you have edit pdf facility. I’ve got an option that says copy to clipboard, then again paste it where you want it. Comes out as a smaller image than when you use a jpg version.
EDIT: Scrub that, pdf version didn’t work!

 

PS Thought you’ d appreciate the pic btw (No Who refs (that I’ve found yet))

 

 

 

 

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@craig

All hail our Merciless Key Master! Seriously, your efforts as ever, are very much appreciated. Not least for…

@htpbdet

I am resting better when engaged on this Forum. Maybe you should ask for NHS accreditation?

LOL! That really is no mean achievement. Compared with eg the Guardian blog which can increase stress to dangerous levels just by reading, never mind contributing (esp on a Sunday afternoon, following a Sat Dr Who broadcast!)

Good luck tomorrow and hope you’re back here and speculating very soon

 

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@Shazzbot – Handcuffs – Could’ve been Clara or it could just have been Donna using the sonic that was seen to be just out of the Dr’s reach. Unless they were wooden handcuffs of course 😉

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@bluesqueakpip @nick

Ah, this is fun 🙂  Don’t think we’ve had an in depth discussion about the TARDIS before. Kudos to whoever sneaked her on to this thread as a companion.

Bluesqueakpip – I forgot about time loops, parallel universes etc – nicely reminded. And again the TARDIS sees all these in her very un-human way of looking at things.

Nick – you can find evidence in show to back up all of these claims me and BSP have been making in the last few posts. You can also find evidence (and I hope you will) to make a different case. For me, that’s what makes this show so much fun. Especially as it ages there are holes, gaps, inconsistences, creaky bits which develop as a natural consequence of being 50 (happens to the best of us LOL). What you won’t find in-show is a detailed explanation of exactly why and how something works eg exactly what is meant by “sees all of time and space at once” for example – it’s just not explainable to anyone who doesn’t have a degree in advanced quantum physics and Gallifreyan engineering.  But it doesn’t rule out free will.

The impossible girl arc is one of those things I just intend to blank out of “my” Who – as opposed to SM’s version – because I believe the entire SM conceit to be absolute nonsense

We all do that – blank out (or retcon) the bits we don’t like. Concentrate on the bits you do like. I’m sorry you’re not on board with the Clara story, but there will be a whole new crew along in a few episodes time. I’d love you to come up with an expanded explanation of the above, or why you think our reading of the TARDIS is wrong. And no I don’t expect you to change my mind, just as I don’t expect to change yours. Personal preferences, different strokes and all that. Debate is fun. Change it to a way you do like 🙂

Clara changing things in his timeline could have no implications for the show’s future direction, or it could define it. We don’t know yet.

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LOL Mr @janetteb (and good answer from you). Bandwagon jumping, much, methinks 🙂

@wolfweed – up to your usual high standards  (Last survivor of Galli-Fry… indeed! (Had its chips I reckon)) 😆

Anyone wanting to buy Matt Smitth’s first car better have pockets that are bigger on the inside! Bids now over £6,000 – not bad for a 12yo Corsa. (All proceeds to charity as the Dr obv has no truck with money 😉 )

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-first-ever-car-of-Dr-Whos-Matt-Smith-Vauxhall-Corsa-aka-The-Shed-/151078388808?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:3160

 

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@nick

once this happened, it became there from the start.

Exactly.

It’s only our own linear perspective that makes this a problem. Everything we (the audience) has seen in the show’s 50 year history is what’s happened AFTER everyone clambered into the Dr’s timetrack.  ie ANY inconsistencies in continuity could be put down to Clara fixing whatever the GI did, but maybe not managing to amend all the details (eg from inconsistencies in cybermen design  to the missing pirate in Curse of the Black Spot)

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Further to TARDIS’s decision making –

It might be something like she senses a big ball of Dr activity coincidentally near their current position in the vortex and thinks “oooooh, that looks interesting, let’s go and check that out”.

That could also explain why the Dr occasionally turns up in the same time period in different incarnations eg 1963 (Hartnell, McCoy), the Autons with Pertwee and Eccleston – the TARDIS sometimes gets her Dr incarnations mixed up, so she’ll land in 1963 with McCoy when it was actually Hartnell’s activity she sensed (or the other way round)  😉

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@nick

I’ve always told myself that we only get to see the adventures (good TV) and all those visits to other places where there nothing remarkable happens just aren’t televised. Of course the Doctor can’t go from being 400 something (Doctor 2) to being over 1,000 (Doctor 11) based on what we see on the show. Who knows what happens in the many Gaps.

Exactly.

There are various refs throughout the show’s history, and particularly in Moffat’s tenure, to off-screen adventures. The Dr could nip off for a couple of hundred years and arrive back 1 minute (or a moment) after he left. We don’t even know that what we see in the TV show is even in the same order it happens to the Dr! There was a theory that 7.1 episodes were all nested within each other.

Re the TARDIS – as she (she’s always been a she in the best ship-gender traditions) experiences all of time and space at once, death is a meaningless concept. There is no past/present/future, it’s all “now” (she’s obv just a big hippy at heart 😉 ). Similarly with the Dr – which regeneration doesn’t matter as they are all “her thief” (and all the regenerations exist all the time for her).

She did try to avoid Trenzalore, which also contained the massive potential paradox of the dying TARDIS herself. As you say, the Dr has obv been reading the instruction manual (or taking lessons from River) and does programme in coordinates sometimes. Other times it’s autopilot or the TARDIS overides him, but don’t expect her motivation to make sense from a linear time perspective. It might be something like she senses a big ball of Dr activity coincidentlly near their current position in the vortex and thinks “oooooh, that looks interesting, let’s go and check that out”.

The TARDIS as special – well it’s suggested in The Doctor’s Wife that all TARDIS’s are sentient to a degree, but the amount of time travelling this one’s done probably does make her just a bit special. The Dr referred to his own history in NotD as being unusual.  And like the Dr she’s a bit of a rebel in that she wanted to run off to see the universe.

then I think we’re about to find out that the Doctor doesn’t die there after all because his personal future is (somehow) about to be changed

The Doctor’s personal history has already been changed with first the GI, then Clara (and the Dr himself)  jumping into his own timestream. We don’t know the full implications of that yet, but it could be used to retcon absolutely any inconsistencies in the show’s backstory.

Catch 22 somewhere – of course there is, it’s timeywimey

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Re the TARDIS taking the Dr where SHE thinks he needs to be – that’s all very well but we are talking about something that has, at best only a minimal sense of cause and effect (if any), and, ironically, no sense of time as a linear concept.  All of time and space happens at once for the TARDIS.  Maybe the TARDIS is attracted by  a resonance or a residue of the Dr’s adventures so heads off there as she knows that’s somewhere he should be. It doesn’t matter if he’s only been there in the future relative to the moment she heads there – that’s irrelevant for the TARDIS.  If the Dr has ever been/will go to a place/time the TARDIS will sense it and head there. But the order and the why might as well be random. A paradox control sensor could prevent revisiting places  he has actually already been. Or not 🙂

In AG Who as people (and the Dr himself)  have rightly pointed out, the Dr’s control of the TARDIS has much improved so maybe doesn’t engage the autopilot so often.

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@nick Well spotted

re the 50th – “movie length” but he’s not committing to exactly how long that is, LOL. Movie length is good though 🙂 Controversial plot twist – not altogether unexpected, could be a small(ish) thing… or something major?

@wolfweed You’re right, re Heathrow – article says it’s on for a week.

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@craig

Scattershot email or not, it’s nice to think our little baby has been spotted in the DW forum jungle by the big ol BBC… Even it it’s just the merchandising dept, LOL.

(I forgot it was the Australian one when I clicked the link and nearly had a heart attack at the prices till I realised it was in Aus$ (Why the Australian one…?!))

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Thanks for the Heathrow link @wolfweed , looks fun

Is that from now till November? I couldn’t see how long it’s supposed to last – just says “in the run up to”

Liked Moffat’s quote –

Steven Moffat added: “We are delighted to announce another extension to Heathrow’s world-beating facilities – all of space and time in a stylish blue box, complete with phone. Heathrow with time travel – nobody need ever be late again.”

Except if you’re trying to get there from Scotland, haha

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@craig – re Stephanie Hutchison – I can confirm the surevey isn’t onerous. (Hope the draw extends to people who’ve already taken part, LOL)

Re link to BBC Worldwide – don’t have problem with link out. As you say “but it IS the BBC and we wouldn’t all be here without them”. I would add we won’t be here long if they decide they don’t like us! 😉

Wonder if they’ve read the various diatribes in the blogs re merchandising 😳

Do we get any free samples? We could do early reviews for them (Only kidding. Mostly)

We could ask them for a reciprocal link but I think we’re probably growing at a manageable rate just now. Quality over quantity.

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@Shazzbot @MadScientist72

Re “looking up” – parallels – The Dr and River confrontations, tho mirrors, are different. The Vashta Nerada are given the option of backing off for a day (till the 4022 survivors can be teleported out to safety) then they get their (albeit meatless) library back, River isn’t going to offer the Dalek any sort of deal – it’s blasted or nothing. Presumably their respective records (back in the day when the Dr had one) confirm that both generally mean what they say ie the Dr will honour a deal, and River can and will destroy a dalek! (The VN back off and live to lunch another day, the Dalek knows it’s doomed).

On the subject of Library records – just wondering if the Dr’s records in THE Library have now also been deleted – does River know this and/or is she aware of it happening? (See my earlier post re the Library being Moff’s idea of heaven and River being able to keep tabs on the Dr while she’s in its datacore).

@bluesqueakpip  Oh SH*T moment was fab 🙂

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Just wanted to highlight – classic creepy moment – the Dr is talking to the VN in the spacesuit – and the 3 shadows are slowly creeping out towards him. Eeeek!

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@bluesqueakpip

Brilliant spot on the 3rd child being CAL. That’s perfect!  <happy now >

And she has her fellow crew (with Miss E reformed?). And she’s in the biggest library in the universe (as Moffat points out – LOL, his own idea of heaven!) so presumably she can also keep up with/research what’s going on with the Dr if she wants to. That opens up a number of possibilities. Does she know about Clara when they meet in NotD, if not at the start of the conference-call, then after they meet up again on Trenzalore?

@Shazzbot – re that interview – I may have read it wrong, but  my understanding of it is that Amy and Rory were created as River’s parents. I would not be in the least surprised to find out that it was planned or at least drafted with River’s first appearance.

One other thing about SitL/FotD is Dr Moon – he’s very much in a Doctor-ish role (although originally he seems more Master-ish. <Adds Moon to long list of things to watch out for>

PS Don’t change @bluesqueakpip name – it suits you!!! (just forgive us for the occasional typing dyslexia 😉 )

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@bluesqueakpip @janetteb @Shazzbott

“She’s Rory’s daughter”   You are absolutely right of course!

“New suit and haircut“ – Like it, now that’s devious. (Did Matt not have a new suit in the DVD extras?)

And yes for someone who insists on not revealing things because of “Spoilers” she’s fairly piling them on here. And (presumably) this River doesn’t know what happens next.  She just throws in everything he did on their last meeting, assuming it might get her rescued. But it also sets up her “rescue” in the first place <head ‘splodes 😉 >

JanetteB – I posted a link (on SitL) to an interview with Moffatt in Aug 2011 where he says that River to be Amy’s daughter was always plan A – hence Pond, and various similarities in their behaviour. (And yes, agree, impressed how much Kingston has River’s character nailed here)

Re the kids – Miss E said all the children were the same (to save memory space), but you’re right Shazz – there are 3 in River’s care at the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ROFL @bluesqueakpip

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@phaseshift

That’s a good idea. But maybe we should wait to see what the 50th and Xmas throw up – some themes might grow naturally out of those.

(Loved Matt’s comment at the Proms “there’s only 4 months to go!”)

@Shazzbot see @wolfweed‘s comment on Talons5 thread – lists BG refs to 51st century (not that many of them)

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Amy & Rory as meta-references

You could see A & R as metaphors for fans.

Amy is the BG fan. The Dr landed in her life at a very early age. She grew up believing in him, while the adults around her said he wasn’t real.  He leaves her for a while (the Gap) but then comes back full force and she can travel with him as an adult.

Rory is the AG fan. They travel with the Dr but also continue with their real lives. Just as we viewers do – some of us spend more time with the Dr than others! Brian is the casual fan, who dips in and out of the odd episode. But he also understands the obsession and is the one who tells them to keep doing it 🙂

(Still working in the end for this theory! Not sure about where them losing their real life because of travelling with the Dr leaves us, LOL. Although they do go to another place where they are happy, but not with the Dr )

(Note: I know most (probably all) of this is not original, but I thought it was worth bringing in here). I blame @bluesqueakpip mostly, with her close analysis of 7.2 But I think closer analysis of all of Moff’s tenure as showrunner would probably confirm that his companions are metaphors for the show itself and the fans.

Clara travels once a week. She’s the fan who joined during AG.  She doesn’t know all of the back history, though she respects it, so can change it if required. Or she’s the scriptwriter.

 

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Final thoughts on the Ponds for now

Amy and Rory’s relationship has been shaped since they were very young. Rory’s always tagged along, Amy’s no 1 fan. He met her when he was a child and was bowled over by her.  He’s not conventionally ambitious or conforming eg his choice to become a nurse – and we see several times that his natural inclination is to care for people. His character reinforces the strength of a non-aggression philosophy which the Dr himself personifies.

Amy is the balance to Rory’s quietness.  She’s restless, and unsure of herself. She’s told throughout her childhood that her imaginary friend isn’t real. Rory is the only one who believes in her.  She gets  used to her no 1 fan always being around. But she also worries that she isn’t worthy of him, and that it’s her fault if they get into pickles with the Dr.  But her instincts are rock-solid eg her reaction to the Star Whale. And she knows Rory is gold.

Their reaction to losing River as a baby isn’t wholly convincing for me, but there again Amy hardly had time to even know she was pregnant, and she does know her baby survived.  The divorce on the other hand was shocking, but believable. Long established couple, who have been through unique experiences – they’ll talk about many things, ,but not the “elephant in the room” – their infertility, because that’s the bit with Amy’s huge guilt – it’s her fault, she brought the Dr into their lives.

But as I said above, and others have also made the same point, you don’t have to like them. If a character doesn’t work for you, they don’t work.  Wait for the next one!

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Amendment to last post –

“eg IA/ToA was set over several months”

should be IA/Day of the Moon

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@nick

What if you spend, say a few months on an adventure with the Dr – eg IA/ToA was set over several months. Then the TARDIS drops you back in your own life  5 minutes after you left?  You’re 6 months older, but your friends are still on the same glass of wine they were drinking when you left.

I thought Power of Three illustrated exactly this very well, and not just in that one line.  The crash/bang/wallop montage of  “life with the Dr” (with several stories flashed into a few seconds). Then real life as the Ponds return to gone-off yoghurt in the fridge and the pleasant mundanity of life in the slow lane.  Skipping out mid-party cos the Dr calls etc.

But it also throws up the different effect/consequences of being a time traveller depending if you’re human or time lord.

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