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@countscarlioni and others

Here’s the guy who does the archao-acoustic research ‘This project explores the role of sound in the experience of Neolithic sites and landscapes’

http://www.aaronwatson.co.uk/acoustics-intro/

@ichabod It happens! Its just hard to predict when it will happen… September is usually the best most wonderful month. …[Read more]

@ichabod Exactly.  It — or she, if one likes — knows what must be, and what must be for him.  She knows his sorrows and that they must be, but also his joys and that they must be.  Footprints in the sand…

@ichabod, Yes, sadly it is impossible, and I think that will be how the Doctor “falls” — he fails to redeem her and blames himself for it in the end, perhaps.

But there is someone else who “knows all about him, understands his background and experience, can talk with him as a knowledgeable equal”, remember.

It’s the TARDIS!

So long as he has…[Read more]

@ichabod:

Addicted to us indeed.  Not a good thing to be, we aren’t nice creatures. No wonder he’s looking ill, we are a virus he’s contracted and there is no pill for it.

Missy

@ichabod Thank you for that additional explanation. It was something that stood out to me … and then, of course, the poor fellow got turned into a beach ball. As you say, his presence is a stretch (well, given their locale, the presence of all of them is a stretch), but not beyond the realm of possibility.

@ichabod , @missy

@ichabod wrote:

And I agree with @missy that he’s been playing fast and loose with that big brain of his (talk about recklessness!).  Maybe he’ll choose to regenerate because he faces the fact that he can’t depend on his self definition any more — too many mistakes lately?

I think he is “wearing thin” and his recent exploits…[Read more]

@ichabod

Yes its interesting. I dont think saving Clara was wrong, or even the wrong thing to do (although saving someone who is physically dead – no heart beat –  and remains so is surely problematic). I think, to repeat my comment which started this particular discussion running, its undoctorish.

Broadly speaking, after trying everything and…[Read more]

@ichabod @thane15 @nick and many others

Thank you all so much for the discussion above, with such insight and far better ways of expressing it than I could ever hope to achieve – one reason why I’m so quiet on the forum!

Regarding the 4.5 billion years in The Castle (and yes, I tend to agree the time period was overplayed), looking at it purely…[Read more]

@ichabod

Or is it something else about Hell Bent that could be considered cowardly, that I’m missing?

It’s his ultimate refusal to face the fact that he can not save Clara from Death that is cowardly and selfish (although other descriptions apply equally well). He had the chance to say a final goodbye and find the beginnings of an emotional c…[Read more]

@ichabod

Agreed; but it *also* means sometimes giving up, stepping back, “Why can’t I just lose?! . . . You still won’t be there .”  I see it from maybe a reverse viewpoint: I see the person who carries the title The Doctor having to learn that lesson of ultimate acceptance over and over again, because “never give up” is directly opposed to “…[Read more]

@ichabod on the Doctor and healing:

Probably nobody, fully, until he heals himself — by regenerating; turning the page on 12.

Hmm, I am not so sure about that.  The idea that no one can help him to heal sounds like what everyone was chiding me about thinking before — the idea that no one truly loves the Doctor.  But River said he was loved by so…[Read more]

@mirime: He actually says that, when he retreats to his Tardis. back to the diamond wall he thinks “why Bird?”

You see his face change and coming back to the Tardis he says, “That’s what I remember!” He repeats this to Clara, without mentioning the bird.

Nick: he wasn’t cowardly, he had a duty of care – and he missed her.

@ichabod: I don’t…[Read more]

@Ichabod

Wow!  I’m inspired!  I shall  market it on Etsy and at  Comic Cons   🙂

@ichabod

Do you mean that there is no such thing as “situational” depression,

No, nor anything like it.

Everybody, at some time or another, will get situational depression. The number of situations that can provoke it is too long to itemise. But then the situation changes and the problem goes away, at most a bad memory. Mostly it doesn’t need tre…[Read more]

@ichabod  I think you’re on to something about the Doctor simply being more prone to alien-ness this year; the Moff mentioned that was going to be the case.  Given what we know of his circumstances now, it’s not surprising, and you’re right that we’ve seen it before.  That’s why I’m not seeing his behavior as especially unusual.  🙂

Also, a fri…[Read more]

@ichabod

What is being Doctorish ? Each regeneration is different. In this particular place, (at the end of Heaven Sent) then No not in my opinion. Is Clara more important to him than River ? More important than Rose. River died. He knew how, where and when before he even knew who she was and what she was going to mean to him. What was Rose to D8…[Read more]

@nick

be intellectual and not physical as there are no accumulated memory.

I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark here and guess that you have never had to be treated for depression.

@mirime

I have a strong suspicion that there is something we have not yet seen of events on the Chasm Forge.

@ichabod

I’ve generally found the Master  (in the…

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@ichabod Thank you.  I’m doing a lot of feeling about as to where it’s all going, some of it from the official spoilers, some from clues in earlier episodes.  I see something more optimistic — yet tragic — for it than most, I suppose.  But that’s for another thread…

@bluesqueakpip  @nick I think your readings of the Doctor/Master relationship are thoughtful ones, especially the conceit that Missy truly wants to be the Doctor’s friend but doesn’t know how to do that.

@whisht The TARDIS does know the two of them well, doesn’t she?  And I think that’s key.

A while back in the “Oxygen” thread, I was wo…[Read more]