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  • #51633
    JimTheFish @replies
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    @miapatrick–

    good luck with the PIP application (@puroandson — I’m assuming it’s a Personal Independence Payment form. The new form of disability allowance in the internecine and Kafka-esque labyrinth that is the DWP these days).

    Also good luck with the assignment. Heedie doon an intae it, as an old teacher of mine used to say….

    #51393
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @puroandson–

    Buffy s1 is only 13 episodes long because it was a last-minute mid-season replacement for the Aaron Spelling show Savannah. A typical US tv show will have a run of 22 episodes — or sometimes longer — seem to remember the X-Files would clock up 25 episodes some seasons. However, there is a thing called ‘sweeps week’ — although I believe these days there are up to four ‘sweeps’ in a year. This is basically when the ratings for various shows are evaluated and progs themselves are assessed in their ability to attract advertisers. The poorer performers are canned, the strong performers will tend to get renewed at around this time. Unless they’re reaching the magic 100-episode mark that allows for syndication then they get to limp along for a bit longer (basically what happened to Angel FWIW).

    This is basically what happened to Buffy. Savannah got canned because it was so awful and Buffy was quickly put together to replace it. And it was (just, I believe) enough of a success to be picked up from there. The rest, as they say, is history….

    (And as an extra aside this is also what happened to Firefly, only in reverse….)

    #51340
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @doctordani — a Bowie docu with Capaldi would be interesting. He did a very good one a few years back on Scottish artists which is worth seeking out if you haven’t seen it already….

    @bluesqueakpip — I think you were just unlucky to get landed with a total jobsworth before. In the previous times I’ve been involved with the dole-ys I’ve had advisers who guided me on what to apply for, what to put on the forms to make sure I got my money quickly, what jobs and opportunities to go for that best suited me etc. In short, they helped me, not punish me. I never once was sanctioned or shoe-horned into some bollocks that was the worst possible fit for me. But I think you’re right, that the sanction quotas — and worse — that IDS has brought in has had the effect of making that kind of mechanical jobsworthiness mandatory.

    Roll on Universal Basic Income, that’s what I say….

    #51313
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    Oh and welcome back @fatmaninabox. Sorry to hear of your JobCentre troubles. It never ceases to amaze me just how quickly we’ve allowed twattish and occasionally deadly officialdom in this country to have a free rein…

    #51312
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    I realise I keep posting these Peter Capaldi vids but this one is just awesome…

    #51310
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @puroandson — yes, I watched that Passion of the Nerd review and I could kind of relate to what he was driving at. I enjoyed Gingerbread far more when I revisited it on the rewatch. It’s a more significant episode than its ‘fillerey’ feeling might suggest.

    I quite liked the way they did Willow’s mum. But at the same time, what more could you do with the character? Her one joke had been played out and we pretty much had learned everything we needed to know about her and how she had affected her daughter’s psychological development. (Unlike Joyce, who has a definite arc of development to work through.)

    And, yes, the ‘bored now’ line is a good one. And it’s an interesting demonstration of the through-line of Willow’s latent capacity for evil right from The Wish through to its ultimate manifestation as Dark Willow.

    #51289
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @pedant and @puroandson–

    personally I prefer: “Is this thing on?” (tapping invisible mike) after a particular zinger has met with a tumbleweed moment. Still use that to this day.

    #51134
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip — yes, neck and neck in the sense that the outcome is becoming increasingly unpredictable. Nice to see the Tories (rather predictably) turning on themselves in the most feral way possible. I’m currently listening to lots of old 90s bands too, so it has a nice symmetry to it.

    @pedant — I believe Tory originally comes from the Irish toirdhe, meaning ‘outlaw’ or ‘pursuer’. First used to mean robber or highwayman (appropriately enough) but by extension came to mean supporters of Charles II. So, yeah, the outsiders do become the establishment in the end.

    #51133
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @craig, @bluesqueakpip, @puroandson…

    >sigh< and I really thought I’d found ‘the one’ this time….

    #51109
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @puroandson– @winston pretty much has it right.

    The referendum on June 23 will determine whether the British people want to remain in the EU under the frankly cosmetic changes of the ‘deal’ Cameron has just ‘negotiated'(Bremain). Or leave the EU and either negotiate ad hoc trade and movement agreements or have associated relationship with the EU a la Norway (Brexit).

    At the moment, the Brexit campaign seems to have become a home for a collection of the most risible political entities in the UK — like a really, really crap selection of super villains. The general attitude seems to be a deep suspicion of anyone who wouldn’t comfortably gain membership to a home counties Rotary Club and a nostalgic yearning for some kind of 1950s fantasyland where there is still some benign form of empire and women and fuzzy wuzzies know their place.

    As for Yaffle(y). Yes, it probably wouldn’t mean much to anyone not brought up in the UK in the 70s and 80s. Professor Yaffle was a pompous, humourless know-it-all in the children’s TV show Bagpuss. He might remind you of someone.

    #51094
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip — I’m actually more editor-ey than reporter-ey these days but that report does make for slightly alarming reading.

    I have as much faith in the DfBIS having workers’ welfare at heart as I do in a ‘British Bill of Rights’ protecting the freedoms of the average man on the street….

    #51092
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip–

    apologies didn’t intend to go all Yaffley on yo ass…

    I’ve seen supposedly safe seats have a vote collapse when people are really, really pissed off.

    Indeed. As for example, just about any previously safe Labour seat you’d care to name in Scotland.

    #51089
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip–

    I’m afraid @pedant is right here and the neoliberal has somehow become a thing in its own right — and one which strikes me as being utterly unreflected in its name — basically being a synonym for politically and culturally unfettered capitalism red in tooth and claw. (I’d actually like to know who coined it as they deserve a hearty kick to the knackers for it).

    Other couple of things:

    So I’m not surprised that your paper, Jim, is having trouble deciding which side of the fence it’s going to land on

    Yes, it’s further complicated up here because a) an Out vote down south and In vote up here is generally being considered as a likely trigger for a second independence referendum, thus triggering some barely settled political debates (that we probably shouldn’t even think about discussing at present). Secondly, a couple of articles by those ostensibly ‘in the know’ suggest that Brexit could mean some de facto extra power for Holyrood, as things like CAP and fishery policy etc could devolve back here. And then there’s the slightly more effectively ringfenced NHS up here and the strong hostility to TTIP. Editorially, there’s a lot of conflict in what line to take, if not downright rabbit in headlights behaviour.

    That ship sailed when the EU chose austerity over starving pensioners

    Definitely. But to an extent. The EU is increasingly blatant in its corporate hyenadom but the legislation on maximum working weeks, holiday, pay etc. should be embraced for as long as possible and are a good reason for Bremain. Yes, we should be pushing for these things at home but realistically under the current Westminster Government they’re about as likely to be seen as Frosty the Snowman doing a wild fandango on the seventh ring of Hell. A Brexit will almost certainly mean the end of guaranteed holidays, automatic workers rights and will probably usher in uncapped working weeks and zero-hours contracts for all. I for one am very keen to make sure that doesn’t happen.

    #51078
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @pedant and @bluesqueakpip–

    I believe that Pip is right when she says Viner wants a more political Graun. But not that that equates to a more left wing one. The paper has been veering ever rightwards for the past decade and I expect that process to accelerate now. It’s final resting place is going to be somewhere in the territory that the Telegraph used to occupy, before it sold out its few remaining principles and rolled over to get its rump tickled by the likes of HSBC.

    But the problem is it still has to placate a core of readers who still buy it in the mistaken belief that it still embodies some of the values of the old Manchester Guardian. I agree with pedant that the editorial team would have very little problem cosying up to the Tories but to do so too blatantly will cost them readers. You see this cognitive dissonance in a different columnist every day as they spout what are essentially soft-right views, while expressing angst and remorse for doing so. The real reason they hate Corbyn (aside from the fact that it pinned its colours to the mast as the Blairite paper of record a long time ago) is that he exposes the essential phoniness of a lot of their position.

    On the EU, pedant is right that there probably isn’t too much doubt on where the Graun is going to stand. But Pip is right I think in that they can’t ally themselves too closely with the Tory camp. It’s quite interesting, as well as the economic shitstorm that newspaper are reaping with the death of print and the rise of digital, the political landscape is incredibly fragmented and stormy too, meaning they’re not quite sure which way to jump on that either.

    #51072
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    Just wanted to add that I watched The Hungry Earth recently which I thought was tip-top and it’s been making me feel the guilts for giving Chibbers such a kicking on this one. Hoping we can get around to a forum viewing of it soon.

    #51071
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip–

    Yes, it’s an absolute bind for the Guardian, I think. More so, now that the Independent has died, as I think it acted as a kind of a buffer for them. Now it’s just them and an amorphous mass of rabid right-wingery in the rest of the dead-tree media. As you say, they don’t want to repeat the mistake Labour made during the indyref and became too tainted by association with the Tories.

    Interestingly I’m finding that the paper I do a lot of work for up here is having a similar problem. It just hasn’t figured out where it stands on the EU question. Opposition to the Tories is a given but does that translate as pro-Brexit, or sitting on the fence? The Graun is in a tricky place because being in Coalition has pretty much destroyed their natural political bedfellows, the Lib Dems. And they’ve been too openly hostile to Corbyn for too quick a volte face there too.

    I suppose part of the problem is that the EU in the last couple of years has evolved into something more problematic. Before the credit crunch, Eurozone collapse, Greek bail-out, refugee crisis etc, it would have been far more cut and dried. And now the EU is revealed as far more of a pro-austerity entity. For those on the left, it’s a problem. Brexit means the pretty quick erosion of workers and human rights but Bremain means TTIP, CETA and TiSA. It’s all a bit murky.

    So you’re dead right that the Graun will try and make it the Dave and Boris Show for as long as they can but that’s not going to last. Pretty soon we’re going to be knee-deep in the sort of yah-boo-sucks tit-for-tat negative politics we last saw in 2014.

    #51023
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    Just another example of Peter Capaldi bringing the awesome….

    #51015
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @drwhoyeah — that sounds suspiciously like Image of the Fendahl to me….

    #50914
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @pedant, @Kharis–

    RE. fantasy casting. I’m afraid you’re never going to stop it. It’s just a rampant interwebs past-time and it’s not helped by actors and their agents jumping on a bit of free publicity by insinuating that they might be in line for the part.

    However, as it’s now been more or less confirmed that Steven Moffat will be in the hot seat until the 2017 Christmas special, then that means a casting decision is really quite far away, more than a year at least, so hopefully it’ll die down again.

    And that’s assuming Capaldi’s going. It’s unusual for a new showrunner to inherit a Doctor but by no means a definite. Chibnall might feel that he can still get some mileage out of Capaldi and that would take the added strain of a regeneration story etc from him. And frankly, by the time both Smith and Tennant went, I did feel that their Doctor(s) had run their course. I don’t feel that with Capaldi’s Doc yet. I think his journey has got a bit more to go (although whether I’ll feel the same by the end of s10 is another matter). Maybe CC feels the same.

    #50913
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @nerys — RE. Netflix. I think I posted a week back an article on the RT about how Who’s presence on Netflix UK is up for renewal in April, with the speculation being that it’ll be pulled from there too. It’s all down to contracts and renewal dates but the chances are that it’ll be pulled from Canada too at the earliest opportunity. I think the Beeb is looking for everything to go through their new online store eventually…

    #50891
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    There should hopefully be a new news page up and running as the last one had reached the end of its tether….

    #50836
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluesqueakpip–

    Because you don’t like it.

    No, not really. I don’t think you can write it off as personal prejudice or dare I say it ‘angst’ — it’s not that I’m against Chibnall becoming showrunner — I’m not and am in fact looking forward to him taking the helm, seeing what he does with the show. Nor am I particularly unhappy that Moffat is leaving — I think it’s time he did. He’s probably just at the cusp of over-staying his welcome and despite the strength of s9, I’m sure he’s the last person who would want the show to stagnate or fall into a rut.

    But to say that I’m riding Chibnall hard for things that I’d give Moffat a free pass for I think is presumptious and a little unfair. The reasons I’ve taken some time and effort to spell out are valid I think.

    And we’re not talking about writers being perfect. Moffat over his tenure has screwed up lots, dropped plot threads, created bad or lacking characters, written episodes that were below par. Same with RTD. And while we’re at it I hold no particular candle for Toby Whithouse either. I was only ever really lukewarm about Being Human and I find his Who episodes middling, with a couple of exceptions. But for all that, they were solid. Structurally and technically, everything is in place, even if the end result is not a piece of work that personally blew me away — that’s the point where personal liking or disliking comes in.

    For me, there are points in this episode, and in others, where Chibnall doesn’t even get that far. He fails to establish plot points. His supporting characters are beyond flat. (I disagree about the characters in SitL etc. No, they’re not fully rounded, yes, they are thumbnail characterisations but they still have enough work put into them that the actors can breathe life into them, give us the suggestion that they actually had a life before the beginning of the story. Compare that to Anthony Flanagan’s character here. Flanagan is a terrific actor and I can think offhand of half a dozen excellent performances from him but does he say anything here that isn’t exposition-bollocks? Anything that successfully suggests that he and the captain have the long-standing friendship that he keeps saying they have. There’s just nothing there. Similarly, look at the criminal waste of Vicky McClure in Broadchurch playing the most prosaic, central-casting Bad Journalist that you could imagine. And it didn’t have to be that way. If he’d just put a fraction of the work into the character that he did to Ellie, Beth or Jack.

    It’s not that I’m castigating Chibnall for not being ‘a genius’ of Moffat levels (and I’d probably say that’s edging towards hyperbole a bit anyway. Let’s just say he’s very, very good). And I don’t dispute for a moment that he’s a writer of genuine talent. But I would say there are far too many examples in his CV where he hasn’t even employed that talent, where he’s been shoddy, careless or lazy, where his work has just been lacking in fundamental issues of craft. There are many writers of Who — e.g. Whithouse, Graham — whose work hasn’t particularly enthused me but whom I can nonetheless recognise as being masters of their trade. But all too often in a Chibnall script, there’s a point where you’re saying ‘WTF?? What about….?’

    It’s not that I have a personal dislike for his work, as such — I like the general ideas by and large — it’s more that his execution of those ideas is often so careless that he sabotages his own work. I’m always left with the impression that I’m being assailed with the Big Moments, with the spectacle, to distract me from the blatant cracks in the fundamental structure of the episode. But to repeat, it’s not that I don’t think he’s not capable of sitting down and creating this structure and more that he doesn’t seem to have the will or the patience to do so and prefers to fly by the seat of his pants and rely on the spectacle. Like someone trying to blag their way into a nightclub by walking really fast and cocky past the bouncers.

    But you’re right that for the casual viewer, Chibnall is probably the right choice. For the people who won’t buy box sets or series record but just watch it the once and who get caught up in the kinetic rush of the episode then he’s probably going to create crowd-pleasing, RTD-esque romps. And that’s pretty much why he was hired, I suspect.

    #50828
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @bluepipsqueak–

    I personally started to get the impression that you were actively looking for faults

    I hope not. Merely trying to quantify why CC’s writing always leaves me feeling a bit like Gru’s mother.

    Why are the welding helmets there? They’re functional. The alternative is having a bunch of actors trying to look like scary possessed monsters while they’re wandering around the set with their eyes closed, trying not to bump into stuff

    Yeah, I get the functional argument and did indeed acknowledge it. And, yes, it’s done for largely the same reason as the Vashta Nerada wear spacesuits in SitL, as you say. But the key difference is that its addressed in the narrative. It’s an acceptable part of the story logic. For one thing the consumed astronauts are already wearing the suits when they meet their demise. For another, the Vashta Nerada use the suits’ visors as a tactic for picking off the other archaeologists. (And that’s leaving aside the narrative significance of the suits’ data ghosting functionality.) But that’s all addressed in the narrative because SM knows that he has to if he’s going to do his job properly. (And avoid giving the BTLers on the Graun a stick to beat him with.)

    Now CC doesn’t do that here. There’s lots of ways he could have — you, yourself have suggested a couple. That the possessed sun-monsters need some kind of protection to avoid destroying themselves or just getting about in general. But he just doesn’t even make that effort. Now, either he thinks he doesn’t need to bother (which is just technically bad writing and something that RTD should have addressed if CC wasn’t going to bother himself) or he just forgot in the rush to get to his next ‘exciting bit’. As it stands, in terms of the narrative logic of the story, the creatures don those helmets for no given reason (other than CC has seen Quatermass/Ambassadors of Death/The Invisible Enemy and thought it was a cool idea) and we have to fill in those gaps ourselves.

    saying that a Doctor Who episode was a ‘mashup’ that borrowed (off the back of a lorry, no questions asked) from other stories gave me a few hints as well

    The expression was used quite deliberately and with its very specific meaning in mind. 42 is very much a mash-up. It’s a collage of different cinematic and TV sources. Just as most of his Torchwood episodes were. Just as, when you get down to it, Broadchurch is. Come on, is there a single narrative beat, a single concept contained in this episode that you haven’t seen somewhere else before?

    Not that this is necessarily a bad thing. This is something of a tradition in Who — the Holmes/Hinchcliffe era is pretty much a shameless recycling of Hammer tropes and is all the better for it. The first Daleks story owes more than a bit to the Dan Dare Voyage to Venus story. Same goes for stories by RTD and SM. It just seems to me that CC ends up doing a little too artlessly, almost as if he doesn’t know quite why he’s including those elements, other than he’s seen them in something else and he wants to bung them in, whether the story requires them or not.

    you seem to like Michelle Collins

    I thought she did a good job, partially because she was given a little more to work with than the rest of the guest cast and also, I suspect, that her years on soaps has made her adept at making rushed, not-quite-there-yet scripts work.

    and missing the point that Chibnall’s scripts consistently produce those good performances

    Except he doesn’t. Not even remotely. What he does do is put a little more effort into maybe one or two characters in a script, presumably the ones he’s interested in. The rest he just leaves dangling in the wind. Compare that with Midnight or Silence in the Library (or Robots of Death or Moonbase) where just about every character is rounded, has some work put into them and that makes them, strong, finished scripts. A CC script almost always seems to (and I’d say the Silurian two-parter being the honourable exception) have holes in it where characters should be. I’m not saying he’s a bad writer, just an undisciplined one. And consistent is the last adjective I’d use.

    Somebody has to take over from Steven Moffat. And Steven Moffat has just given us a ‘Follow that!’ era.

    Yes, I’d agree. As I said before, CC has the opposite problem to Moffat. SM was the guy who wrote Blink. He had a lot of good will to bank on for a few episodes. (The converse of that, of course, was when people realised that he wasn’t going to deliver 13 Blinks every year, a lot of so-called fans turned on him.) CC has the opposite problem. He’s the bloke who wrote Cyberwoman and this. He’s facing a lot of metaphorical folded arms, saying: ‘here we are now, entertain us’. The upside there is that if he does knock it out the park — and, frankly, I think and hope he might — then he stands to secure himself a far smoother ride than SM could ever have hoped for.

    Yes, but in a choice between two Doctor Who writers who have good viewing figures and good AIs for their scripts, which one is the ‘safe’ choice for the BBC?

    I’d agree with @pedant that in some ways it is surprising that Whithouse wasn’t chosen and I guess we’ll never know if he was even asked or not. Let’s face it running Nu-Who is a tough room to work (where you have to deal with die-hards on Twitter, the Graun and, well, here). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if TB turned it down for that reason. And as Pip says, Chibbers has bona fide hits in Broadchurch and Law and Order — and perhaps proved he can take media pressure after the shit he (frankly deservedly) caught for Broadchurch 2. I also suspect it’s his track record as a ventrilo-writer (mash-ups a specialty 😉 ) that attracted the suits to him, no doubt with the idea of saying ‘make it more like it was in the RTD years when everyone loved it’. However, I suspect when he’s been given the keys to the TARDIS, Chibbers will actually have some very firm and individual ideas about what he’ll want to do.

    That’s what I’m hoping anyway.

    #50800
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    Right >cracks knuckles<  (which is no mean feat for a fish)

    Enjoyed watching this again. It’s actually been too long since I sat down and watched some Tennant-era Who. Must do a bit more of that. I’d downgraded Tennant in recent years as I think his performance sometimes pales compared to the nuance of Smith and now Capaldi but I really enjoyed his performance here. It’s also interesting to see now, as we reach the end of Moffat’s tenure, just how far the show has travelled away from the kinetic style of the RTD years.

    Similarly, Michelle Collins did a great job. I think she often doesn’t get the credit she deserves because she’s largely considered a ‘soap actress’.

    In general, it zips along quite nicely and some of the visuals are terrific and still stand up well. Graeme Harper is a terrific director for this kind of thing and it’s something of a shame that the show stopped using him.

    However…

    The episode is also a good showcase for Chibnall’s main flaws as a writer. First off, there’s character. The characterisation is just awful. Beyond flat. Collins manages to breathe a bit of life into Kath but the rest are little more than exposition-monkeys that even actors of the calibre of Anthony Flanagan can’t do much with.

    The key question is ‘do I believe that these are real, living, breathing people?’ and the answer here is ‘no, I don’t’. And this is a pretty fundamental thing in that Who staple the ‘base under siege’ story. Look at the real classics of the genre in Who — Robots of Death, say, or The Moonbase. We absolutely believe in Hobson and Benoit as characters and we worry for their survival. Same with Poul and Uvanov — and it’s a testament to Chris Boucher’s script for that story that even a dodgy old ham like Russell Hunter can coax out a character that we actually become invested in. Similarly, Cass and Lunn in Under the Lake or Journey and Morgan in Into the Dalek or Adelaide in Waters of Mars. They all convince as characters.

    I just don’t feel that here. When they’re not mechanically advancing the plot, the attempts to inject some life into them doesn’t really succeed. Their dialogue strikes me as ‘box set banter’ — a conception of character gleaned from watching other TV series rather than first-hand observation of people. It’s like looking at photograph that’s been photocopied a dozen times. All the vividity, all the detail, has been muddled out. (It’s worth pointing out that there’s no one better at this stuff than RTD. He strikes me as someone who has a genuine interest in and love for people and it shines through in his writing. Rose is almost certainly the best drawn character in Who’s 50-year history. Which makes it odd, I suppose, that he failed so manifestly with Martha. I suspect it was because he still wasn’t quite ‘over’ Rose and didn’t really want to write Martha at all.)

    I suspect this is a general CC trait. There’s an opener to a Torchwood episode (I think it might even be the dreaded Cyberwoman) where the regulars are seen playing a game (football maybe?). Aside from being shamelessly pinched from the Firefly episode Bushwhacked, I always got the impression that it had been shoe-horned in to kickstart what had already been perceived as a flaw in the show — the same lacking sense of character — but it didn’t really work.

    I spent last night rewatching the first three episodes of Broadchurch s1 just to be sure and I think it’s borne out there too. The real impact comes from a couple of performances — notably Jodie Whitaker as Beth and David Bradley as Jack — who were clearly the characters who interested CC and much of the rest are merely there to service the plot.

    Part of the problem is that I think CC is too enamoured of the set piece, the big moment, that he tends to overlook the process of getting there. The impression I get that the momentum of Broadchurch was in its big moments — Danny’s body on the beach, Jack’s suicide, getting Ellie in the interview room with her husband — and that there is a sense of impatience about the actual getting there.

    It kind of reminds me of this:

    Similarly, 42 strikes me as starting off as a shopping list of ‘cool stuff’ that he wanted to get in and all that character and plot stuff was just a means of getting one from Moment to the next. Thus we get recently corporeal sun monsters who feel the need to don welding helmets. Why? Charitably, you could perhaps argue because they had to keep their eyes shielded for their human bodies to get about. But mostly I get the sense it was because it ‘looked cool’ and Who (and cut down on the VFX bill). And then it’s ‘we have to see Martha drifting in space away from the Doc, the Doctor possessed and the Captain falling into the sun’ with some stuff in between to make those things happen. Particularly interminable in this regard was the ‘pub quiz’ protocols, which struck as particularly ‘filler-ey’.

    The episode is basically a mash-up. It’s largely a remake of Planet of Evil with bits of Alien, Event Horizon, Sunshine bolted on. This seems to be both his strength and weakness and often what he seems to be hired for, to create stuff that’s ‘like’ something else. Thus Broadchurch is basically The Killing filtered through a Cracker sensibility. And he adapts the Law and Order franchise to a UK sensibility. He’s writer as remix DJ, as ventriloquist.

    Not that I’m saying this is necessarily a bad thing. He’s quite probably just what Who needs at the moment. Moffat has probably taken the show as far in the ‘tricky dicky, timey-wimey’ direction as it can go. I get the impression that CC was perhaps hired to provide a counterpoint to that.

    #50795
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @winston — as someone brought up on the old FilmFair Paddingtons, I’ve been trying to perfect the ‘hard stare’ for years to frankly dismal failure….

    I was very surprised at just how enjoyable the Paddington film was. I didn’t expect that much but it attained an almost Ealing-esque quality at times… and I love Sally Hawkins. She would be pretty high up on my list for a female Doctor.

    #50776
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @puroandson–

    Yes, Fringe is a very mixed bag. And even our Walter is a difficult character to take — you could definitely argue that he gets off too lightly for what he did in the past. And the last couple of seasons are, well, a bit lame. But I think Anna Torv (be still my heart) did great work and I loved all the Red Universe stuff. It was just a shame it tended to, er, peter out.

    But having said that, it was a show I enjoyed getting into at the time and there’s lots of great stuff in those early years. It just lacked focus sometimes and did go on one series too long…

    #50775
    JimTheFish @replies
    Time Lord

    @puroandson– haven’t seen it as just couldn’t really work up the enthusiasm for it. I was also curiously disappointed in A Most Wanted Man too. Great performance from Seymour Hoffman but curiously flat after that. Not a patch on The Constant Gardener as a Le Carre adaptation.

    On an entirely incongruous note, just watched Paddington which had me frankly in mush. And it served as a reminder to just what a great comic actor Peter Capaldi is. It’s a shame we don’t see more of that side of him in Who.

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    @puroandson– some people do have a problem with Fringe. I loved it though, particularly the red universe stuff. Do tell us your thoughts on it. On the TV thread of course and when you feel able….

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    Just to add to the ongoing Netflix story. If you’re watching Who on UK Netflix then get your watching in now as it may not be there after April. In fact, I’d assume it isn’t going to be.

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    @allonsy — DVDs are cool n all but don’t let it curtail the comic book consumption too much….

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    @wolfweed–

    Big hello to the wolfy-weedy one. Good to see you’re still around….

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    @craig, @pedant, @allonsy–

    I’d put money on there being an aggressive Who promotion on the BBC online store over the summer…

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    @OB-Wan– Capaldi’s contract will be based on x amount of episodes, not on him being contracted for any specific period of time. We already know that he’s been contracted for s10. When they’re broadcast is probably beside the point.

    All the current reports have filming starting in early March (slightly later than usual, which is what led to much of the speculation of a delayed broadcast date prior to the announcement). That means filming a regeneration in July/August at the latest. (Assuming it’s not in the 2017 Christmas special — it’s not clear who’s going to be responsible for that, whether that’ll be Chibnall’s first or Moffat’s last — but that’s the only way that Doc speculation could be pushed back a year.)

    But assuming we see the regeneration in Moffat’s final season, then that’s a regeneration being filmed in roughly 5 months from now at the latest. Assuming casting already isn’t a done deal, that means the hunting will take place over the next couple of months. This is a major news story so unless security is extremely (maybe impossibly) tight then it’s inevitably going to get out. Especially as agents love linking their talent to the role for a spurt of free publicity etc. There’s almost no chance of springing a surprise regeneration these days. That’s why the Beeb went for the all-singing, all-dancing announcement last time. Chances are we’ll have to endure that again.

    This is all assuming PC is going of course but if he is I’d expect an announcement within a month or two. Couple of months of media frenzy and a new Doc announcement in July/August-ish time at the latest.

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    @riker666– welcome to the forum. Interesting list. Generic bookies’ list, of course, but interesting. Not convinced by Richard Madden. Bit square-jawed and lacking in quirk for Doctor material I would have thought. But you never know. Vicky McClure’s inclusion is an odd one. I don’t hate it but can’t really see that happening. My bet would be for someone young, relatively unknown (and cheap). All the names on that list are either too busy or too expensive, I’d suspect.

    @pedant–

    Yeah, as I said yesterday it’s almost without precedent for a new producer to inherit a Doctor. JNT was the only one and even he doesn’t really count as Barry Letts was essentially calling the shots on his first season. Davison’s first season was also JNT’s first without the stabilisers on.

    I do like the idea of a mid-series regeneration though. That could be interesting. I wonder if Chibnall would want that though, Moffat putting his fingerprints over a new Doc. He might prefer a blank slate.

    Moffat will almost certainly want to make some sort of mark on regeneration though, want to put a new spin on it. And it’s hard to see how to do that. I’ve always liked the idea of a multi-Doctor story with a future, previously unseen Doctor on it. It always struck me in the Three Doctors, Five Doctors etc. what that must feel like for Troughton’s Doc etc. — seeing the man you’re yet to become. I like the idea of a future Doc showing up, helping in an adventure and the current Doc becoming him at the end of the story or something like that.

    Or just a really low-key off-hand regeneration. Something completely anti-epic. Maybe even done at the start of an episode rather than the end. If any Doc would fit that it would be Capaldi’s constantly defying expectations Doc.

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    @puroandson– There’s been no definite announcements yet but I think the smart money would be on that happening. Not sure if they’d actually have someone cast already but you never know. However, I’d expect to hear soon that PC will be standing down.

    Just to add, I really hope it’s all ready cast. I’m not sure I can face all that endless interminable speculation that we had to put up with last time.

    @craig — re. Netflix. Even if they’re taking all of Who down, I’d imagine it’s because they want the BBC store to be the only point of availability. Wouldn’t be surprised if it goes from the UK site at some point too. Which will be vexing on a purely lazy level as it saved getting up from the sofa to change a DVD.

    But something’s definitely going on with Who, I think. There’s some news yet to come out, I think. It could just be the announcement of a new Doctor in the offing but there was also that cryptic statement from SM that 2017 will be his last few series but there might be ‘something more’ as well. Not sure what that could be. Movie maybe?

    And yeah, the Beeb in general is approaching squeaky bum time, if it isn’t there already. Charter renewal coming up fast. They’ve been very ardent in sucking up to the Tories but I don’t think it’s going to be enough. And Murdoch has been on the ropes because of Leveson but he seems back now and cosying up to Cameron and co with a vengeance. He’s getting on a bit now and I would think he’ll want to see the Beeb permanently hobbled before he pops off. This is his best, maybe last, chance to do so. So if they don’t out-and-out lose the licence fee this time around, it’ll be put on notice to become less of a ‘tax’ and more of a ‘subscription’ or some such bollocks.

    Definitely dark times for the Beeb and I suspect we’re now seeing its last years in the form which we’re used to seeing. All the shifting of the top deckchairs on the Titanic and the creation of production off-shoots, online stores etc. seem to point in that direction.

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    @craig — who can tell but Netflix has been getting a lot of stick from content providers for not making it hard enough for VPN users overseas to access the US content. And they have a lot more Who up than the UK site does — including Capaldi’s first series. Considering that the Beeb has just opened up their own online download store, maybe they felt that Netflix was doing them out of potential sales?

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    This isn’t really news as such but it is a nice piece by the mighty AL Kennedy on writing The Drosten’s Curse….

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    While I’m in no hurry to see Capaldi go, it’s worth bearing in mind that with the exception of JNT, whose run saw four Doctors come and go, it’s been far more usual for a new producer/showrunner not to inherit an old Doctor. Not to say that that couldn’t happen now but I’d put a significant wager on Capaldi going in 2017.

    I’d expect us to be face the media circus around new Doctor speculation in the coming months. Fasten your seatbelts.

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    @OB-Wan– I’m shutting this conversation down now because it’s getting childishly personal, unpleasant and utterly pointless. For my part in that I apologise to the forum at large.

    You are NOT the boss of me and I am not interested in tailoring my posts to please you. I will continue to use caps when I feel it’s appropriate to emphasize my points.

    FYI, SCREAMING CAPS are not just ugly but create an aggressive vibe in any post, akin to shouting in someone’s face. It’s basic politeness not to do it. And, no, I’m not the boss of you but I am a site Mod and I will moderate any posts that I consider offensive, aggressive or otherwise less than desirable on the site.

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    @pedant– Yes, that’s a list I find very hard to disagree with at all. I suppose Buffy is unique in a show that if someone else tries to cite an episode other than The Body as the best episode you automatically know you’re talking to a crazy person.

    Currently binge-watching Jessica Jones which is just great and I think definitely follows in Buffy’s shadow — although they’re obviously very different shows. Maybe it’s because I keep seeing little flashes of Faith in Jessica herself.

     

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    @kharis — no problem at all. I’m sure there will be lots of things to look forward to in CC’s tenure. Change is good and has been the mainspring of Who’s continued success.

    Yeah, the Graun is not for the faint-hearted and is basically Moffat-hating ‘why can’t it be the 1970s no more??’ central. The temptation is always to dive in (when the wise thing would be to just ignore it). The downside is that there’s always a residue of combatitiveness left over when you return to safe havens like this. Probably not healthy and I will give it up one of these days. But Dan’s blogs are always good.

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    @ob-wan — FFS. No, the point is that the use of the word is correct — both mine, and Moffat’s and RTDs. And yes, it is a rationalisation because reason was used — i.e. arguments with evidence. I offered definitions and reasons — you on the other hand just choose to ignore them and basically dig your heels in: ‘I don’t accept this definition so there!!’ It’s not incorrect usage. You’ve just picked up on this personal bugbear of yours and are refusing to let go of it.

    Remember “diary” and “dictionary”?

    I do and I didn’t bring it up because it was a ‘missing the point by a country frickin’ mile’ useless analogy then and it remains one now. That’s why I said ‘remake’ would have been wrong but ‘reboot’ wasn’t. It was acceptable usage within the context.

    I notice also that you don’t address my point about the usage creating zero ambiguity and therefore working as an acceptable phrase. That’s the only reason that can ever be offered for a word being ‘wrong’ in a particular context. If meaning is rendered muddled or ambiguous by particular word choice. In this case it isn’t and is therefore valid. A more sensible analogy would be ‘diary’ and ‘journal’, which could be debated semantically but would not be strictly speaking wrong. But as it is the only real use of your original analogy really is as a good example of @pedant‘s ‘straw man’ definition.

    you want to make up your own rules so that you can declare yourself to be right when you are using words incorrectly

    And again, no. Because it’s not my definition. They’re ones shared by many as points of agreed points of reference. That’s what a definition is. But they’re not end points, they’re starting ones. And as with the DEM argument, your only hope is to stick to incredibly narrow, rigid definitions. That not only lacks in imagination, it’s not going to work for you. Because language is far, far more nuanced and fluid than that. It’s not so much a case that meanings change over time (which they do, of course) but that words possess sliding multiple layers of meaning at any given time.

    So, rather than me, it’s you, by stripping out layers of meaning you personally don’t like, or are affecting to in order to make a point, that has become trapped by your own ‘musings’.

    (BTW, lay off the caps lock. I’m not deaf.)

    And with that I’m officially done with this conversation.

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    @kharis — That post also cropped up on the Guardian announcement of Moffat’s departure (which quickly turned into the bile-fest you’d expect.) It’s a bit of political point-scoring by the poster and nothing more. Moffat’s going is little to do with austerity cuts. As he’s said himself, he was going anyway, has if anything stayed longer than he’d intended. He hasn’t been sacked or anything like. Let’s face it, he’s the man behind the Beeb’s two most successful drama shows of the moment. I’m pretty sure he’s staying at the Beeb in some capacity and probably a significant one. I wouldn’t be massively surprised if Armando Iannucci’s prediction about him having some sort of executive commissioning role came to pass.

    And if you look at all the announcements around s10 you can see they were carefully vague on transmission dates etc. They’re very carefully worded to announce good news and bury the negative. This, I suspect, has all been decided for quite some time now. It’s not been suddenly thrust upon them by budget cuts. The timing, I suspect, will segue into some other announcement. A new project by Moffat, the casting of the new Doctor etc.

    Because I think it’s almost definite that 2017 will be PC’s last series as the Doctor. I can’t see Chibnall wanting to inherit a Doctor and I think SM will want to go out with a bang and I’d expect that means a regeneration.

    Having said that, the Beeb is definitely under the cosh at the moment. It’s charter renewal time and Who is expensive. It’s distinctly possible they wanted to keep it off the balance sheet for the year leading up to the charter. And they’re certainly tightening their belts in all kinds of areas — unifying channel controller jobs and the like.

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    @OB-Wan–

    On reboots and language in general.

    And it will never be correct no matter how much you may rationalize it to yourself.  The definition of words aren’t going to change to suit your musings.

    Not my musings, no, but with the musings of enough people then they do. Words change their meanings and even their spellings all the time and they’re not ‘wrong’ to do so. Impact becomes a verb. Flower becomes flour and so on. So, no, afraid you’re wrong there. Read some de Saussure and come back to it. It’s not possible to slavishly cling to one single definition because, basically, others won’t.

    Davies and Moffat are both using the word incorrectly

    No, they’re not. And leaving aside definitions and the like for the moment, there’s one fundamental reason why they’re not. When they use the word ‘reboot’ is there anyone left in the slightest doubt as to what they’re referring to? Even the tiniest smidge? No. Everyone knows that they’re referring to the version of Doctor Who broadcast post 2005. Many moons ago I had a night editor who would only countenance the bare minimum of punctuation of any kind on a page. You could point furiously to Fowler or Strunck and White all you liked and witter on about Oxford commas etc but his only criteria was ‘does leaving it out detrimentally change or destroy the meaning and/or legibility of what’s being said’? If it didn’t then that punctuation was ditched no matter what the books said. And you know what, he was dead right. The only thing — the only thing — that language is there for is the most transparent and straightforward method of communicating the meaning of that utterance. (Now there are complications and questions to be addressed in even the simplest utterance — de Saussure again, but the general point stands.)

    So, no ‘reboot’ is right in this context. Remake wouldn’t be, of course, but reboot is fine because the meaning is absolutely clear, without the slightest ambiguity. It’s right because it’s a metaphor and they by their very definition (arf) are slippery sods. To insist on the rigid meaning as you seem to be is a bit like insisting that John Lee Hooker doesn’t have the blues because he isn’t actually ‘blue’.

    Now it’s one of the things that I love about this site is that these kind of conversations can arise but other posters are correct and this is getting way off-topic. Let’s take it to Off The Sofa, if indeed, anywhere at all.

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    @puroandson–

    Sorry to hear about your mum. Send Puro my best wishes….

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    @OB-Wan–

    There are right words and wrong words to suit every occasion.

    True, but this is not one of those occasions. You’re being painfully literal. Again. And to repeat, there’s nothing actually incorrect with the usage of the word, for the reasons outlined above.

    But since you live and die by dictionary defintions, here’s the OED on the subject:

    Restart or revive (a process or sequence, especially a series of films or television programmes); give fresh impetus to:

    There’s nothing in that definition to contradict describing AG Who as a reboot.

    With all due respect, you’re being needlessly pedantic (and we already have one of ’em around here…. 🙂 )

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    @OB-Wan–

    Words have meanings attached to them

    Yes, they do but once again it’s a great deal more nuanced and complicated than that. In almost every case it’s not a one-to-one correlation (and let’s not open the can of worms of signifier and signified and to the relative instablity of the relationships between them). Let’s just say that there’s nothing wrong with using ‘reboot’ in this context and that it’s pointless to insist on such a literal interpretation. That’s not really how language works.

    @bluesqueakpip and @pedant — Leaving aside the TV show that must not be named for a moment to look at the first series. There’s no doubt that CC can write character and all his work has great character beats to it. But I’m not sure you can write off the procedural aspect as being not important. And I’d still argue that it was the work of Tennant, Colman and Bradley that helped paper over the cracks of what was flying by the seat of its pants writing.

    However, I think CC is on surer ground with crime/RL drama because it doesn’t show up his weaknesses quite so much. (Same goes, I think, for RTD actually.) He clearly likes the big emotional moments, the jaw-dropping exposes, the moments of spectacle, but unlike, say Joss Whedon, he doesn’t have the patience to earn them. This leads to fatal flaws in logic. Even in his best story, the Silurian two-parter, it raises its head. Look at the Silurian scientist. Portrayed as a Mengele figure solely to create a good cliff-hanger and then instantly transformed into a kindly pacifist, because the second part needs to go in that direction. Similarly, what you say about Solomon in Dinosaurs is true but consider how much controversy his demise caused. I think there was probably enough precedent for it to be OK but the fact that it unsettled so many suggests to me that it the way it was played out didn’t quite make its case as wholly satisfying drama.

    But this tendency to steam ahead for the big moments without laying the groundwork for them is at its worst in Torchwood — Cyberwoman a case in point in how not to write an episode. So much so that it holes the first two seasons below the water line until RTD pulled it back with Children of Earth. However, I’m looking at Torchwood as a good thing and almost as a ‘dummy run’ for his tenure as Who showrunner. He’s hopefully going to be able to learn from previous mistakes.

    You’re right though that his work, if pedestrian, is crowd-pleasing. And possibly that’s what the Beeb is wanting for the moment after the inspired but sometimes risky approach of the Moffat years. I suspect that our theorising will become a lot tamer though.

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    @OB-Wan–

     I can just imagine how much RTD and SWM would be laughing at us for spending so much time discussing such a minor point.

    On the contrary, I’d say they’d be chuffed that their work is continuing to engage and involve even more than 10 years after transmission. What writer wouldn’t.

    It seems you have leapfrogged over the posts where I detailed my evidence and argument. No problem, it’s all there, just take a moment to review it, please.

    On the contrary, I read it all. No offence, it seemed more like entrenching of a position rather than argument. And as Pip says I think part of the problem is that some of which you consider to be the mechanics of a DEM is just wrong. Perhaps the issue is your dogged adherence to one single definition that I’d say gives a flavour of the concept but does not account for the depth and nuance of the concept. (E.g. as a nuclear scientist would you take Merriam-Webster’s definition of fission as the last word on the subject. Of course you wouldn’t.) The reason why Pip and I have possibly over-persisted with this one is that (apart from DEMs being a long-running bone of contention) is that we both felt you were mistaken in your assumptions and wished to outline the reasons why.)

    Yes, my ‘no consequences’ aspect won’t appear in many two-line definitions but I’d still say most — possibly not all — real examples of contain this aspect. That’s what I mean by the limitation of sticking to a two-line definition is not good enough. (And I say that as someone who has both earned something of a living as wordsmith of sorts and has taught English Lit at undergrad level).

    But in the end I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    Just a minor technical point – the show hasn’t been rebooted.  “Rebooted” implies jettisoning the past stories and starting over.

    True, but a bit pedantic, don’t you think? Both RTD and SM have used the term on numerous occasions and the show did return after a significant hiatus and with significant new elements in place. I’d say that’s enough to justify the use of the term. Besides which it’s useful shorthand to differentiate the 2005+ version of the show from what came before.

    @kharis — believe me, I’m less than thrilled by CC either but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. True, there’s little in his back catalogue to inspire that much confidence but you never know. He might rise to the occasion. Quite apart from anything else we don’t want to become the Chibnall equivalents of the wailing anti-SM brigade. Let’s judge him on the work.

     

     

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    Well, well, the DEM is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn’t it?

    @OB-Wan–

    It’s rather rude of you to use a loaded word like “prejudice” instead of “opinion” – a little passive aggressive too.

    Not really. An ‘opinion’ is a conclusion or stance arrived at via evidence and argument. As you by your own admission are refusing to be swayed by any argument that might be presented to you then you’re operating pretty much from the dictionary definition of ‘prejudice’. (And you seem to love those 🙂 ) However, sorry if you took it askance.

    You’re kind of half right that Rose as Bad Wolf is a DEM in the most literal way — as Pip points out and which I think RTD admitted to in either an interview or possibly The Writer’s Tale. It’s a joke at the expense of both the fans who always bitch about DEMs and also the show’s long and venerable tradition in using same.

    However, I’d argue that aside from the literal joke of Bad Wolf acting in a God-like way, PotW is not a DEM ending. And as Pip says, the concept relies on an unexpected resolution entirely unrelated to the action that went before it. Bad Wolf isn’t expected — and trying to write off the previous mentions isn’t going to wash. It’s established that Bad Wolf is a significant arc point. It’s established that the heart of the TARDIS is a powerful and not-to-be-fucked-with force. That means that Bad Wolf’s final arrival late in the day as foreshadowed by previous events is not a DEM, just a common or garden plot point. You might not like this particular payoff but that doesn’t make it a DEM.

    There are two other reason why it isn’t one either. The first is that a traditional DEM tends to be consequence free. It’s a dramatic get out of jail free card. This isn’t the case here. There are consequences. It costs the Doctor his regeneration.

    The second reason it’s not a DEM is more fundamental. The true arc of s1 is the relationship of the Doctor and Rose, essentially of the Doctor re-learning to connect with humans after the trauma of the Time War. It’s about a stumbling bonding of two characters (and drama is always about character, not piddling SF McGuffins). Rose sacrifices herself for the Doctor and the Doctor sacrifices himself for her. It’s the purest manifestation of their love for each other and that’s been dramatically developed throughout all the previous episodes. If Mickey or Rose’s mum or Lynda with a Y had been the Bad Wolf then the DEM argument might have held some water.

    However, let’s not forget that Who has a huge tradition in using DEMs (and long tradition of fans invoking them when they don’t like a denouement). The first and to my mind most blatantly undefendable DEM in Who is in The Edge of Destruction and that’s the third feckin’ story. Similarly the Doctor suddenly regenerating at the end of the Tenth Planet is another colossal DEM and yet regeneration is a key plank of the show’s lore now. And then there’s the Time Lords showing up in the last episode of The War Games. Another seminal Who moment and another huge DEM.

    So we can debate this being a DEM, that not, but it’s an integral part of the original show anyway so possibly something that just has to be accepted to some extent or another. But at the same time, despite all the accusations to the contrary, it’s a device that’s almost never made a significant appearance in the rebooted show.

    @bluesqueakpip–

    I’d debate the bike in Bells of St John isn’t really a DEM because it’s ultimately not that relevant to the denouement. It’s a just joke basically. Again possibly as a gentle poke in the ribs to fandom.

    Oh and just doing your tax return now? For shame! I had mine done days ago (he said virtuously 😉 )

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    @bluesqueakpip — don’t think anyone’s saying that CC is any kind of misogynist or that his stories won’t have good, well-rounded female characters (though there will almost be elements of fandom who’ll say that regardless).

    What I will say is that both his Who and his Torchwood work absolutely do not fill me with confidence, once he’s holding the reins but I agree that he should be given the benefit of the doubt since then. We’re going to have to agree to disagree on Broadchurch 2. Watched the whole thing and it just didn’t get his mojo back — and think the first series actually got a smoother ride than it should have and only was largely saved not by the writing but by Tennant, Colman, Bradley etc knocking it out of the park with stellar performances. And I think the thing that should worry us now is CC’s general arse-iness over the bad press he got. God knows how he’s going to deal with Whovians.

    In many ways he’s starting from the opposite position that Moffat did. On the strength of his RTD episodes, it was generally assumed that SM would usher in a golden age of Who (which he did. It just wasn’t what a lot of fans were expecting). But he came into the job with a lot of goodwill. CC is coming in having to prove himself far more. A very tough gig.  I think it was his, as you say, solid CV that got him the gig. It’s probably what made him a more attractive choice to say Harness or Mathieson, who are better writers, but don’t really have the production experience.

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