• PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    I knew it was my first post that drew your ire @bluesqueakpip. The response spoke volumes.

    But ‘I repeat’ this is as cynical a fanwank as you are likely to experience.

    I’ve explained my reasons. Your response is pretty poor. I think that the obfuscation and misattriubution paints a picture. And then colours it in.

    Go at it.I have no grist to…[Read more]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @bluesqueakpip

    But I suppose my main point is that I’m developing a deep suspicion that had the Holmes/Hinchcliffe/Nation plot points been broadcast under the name ‘Chris Chibnall’, you would even now be telling me how awful they are.

    Well that’s a rather lame attempt to paint me as a ‘bowelstreak’ type naysayer, isn’t it? Especially when coupl…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    Well, lots to unpack here. It’s almost like old times…

    @bluesqueakpip

    Really? Sherlock is currently over a hundred and thirty years old and Doctor Who has a much more flexible structure than good old Sherlock

    Allow me to clarify slightly. I’m not saying that the cultural text of Doctor Who won’t be around in 2063. It most definitely will. I…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @bluesqueakpip So what’s the point of the retcon? I’ll have to think about it some more, but I suspect that Chibbers, having tackled the God Complex, is now possibly trying to develop the Doctor’s characterisation away from the ‘rebel Time Lord’ schtick that we’ve been stuck with since The War Games. Trying to explain why the Time Lords seem…

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  • PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    I respect your opinion @bluesqueakpip , but also note that your response is an inelegant method of not answering my main point. What’s the reason for the Timeless Child retcon?

    Holmes wanted to eventually write a high stakes story about the ‘death’ of the Doctor and seeded these ideas that would feed into it and establish those high stakes.…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @bluesqueakpip All very plausible. When I rewatch, I will keep your suggestions in mind! And maybe my questions will be answered.

    Also, good point about Capaldi’s Doctor having some “undoctorly” moments … that one, in particular.

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @whisht

    Yeah, I think this will be retconned at some point. You can almost hear the tapping keyboards in the bedrooms of future showrunners even as we speak.

    re. the running away from Ko Sharma — yep, it was pretty un-Doctorly, but 13 has by now made a habit of fairly regular un-Doctorly behaviour, so I’m pretty much letting it go now. What’s…[Read more]

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @davros I’m thinking either the Tardis got stuck like a police box around this time and the memory wiped Hartnel doctor accidentally stole his own Tardis (because she wanted him to, and because of Claracle).

    Alternatively, the Tardis chose to get stuck in that shape because of the meeting between the two Doctors which the Tardis knew (time works…[Read more]

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  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip

    That’s really fascinating. (Though annoyingly you’ve now furnished me with a long list of books that I really want to read …) I’m also interested in the gap between 1880-odd and 1982. Was there really nothing SF-ey published in Ireland for a 100 years? Admittedly, it’s a 100 years in Ireland that are pretty packed with incident,…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip

    That’s really interesting. I am definitely intrigued now whether this is, as you say, some nostalgic twee Irish fantasy. (In which case, why not just imagine some quaint English bobby scenario?) Or is it going to tap into something more directly political? A pastoral idyll that’s actually riven by civil war — as an analogue for…[Read more]

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip yes it was odd. Not to mention the profession of nurse as we know it came about during a war, because of a war even, arguably.

    Also people who practice medicine, and people who teach are pretty much the oldest and most consistently found members of a civilisation.

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @blenkinsopthebrave yes – I already knew it was Guarda, but this episode really bought it out. I even said to my boyfriend ‘I like that it’s guard in Ireland.

    So I looked on OED and I feel that my response is reasonable. Police comes from public order, administration, possibly regulation. To police something is one kind of thing. To Guard is to…[Read more]

  • lisa replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip       @blenkinsopthebrave

    I’ve been thinking that clock has a Time Lord in it and its waiting for his immortal body.

    It might be KO ?   My hunch is  that he’s another Time Lord using a perception filter like

    the Ruth Doc.    There was a resemblance between KO and old Brendon.

    If you look with a magnifying glass at the screen…[Read more]

  • @bluesqueakpip

    Thanks for that. I suppose I was thinking of the Master’s Tardis taking the form of a clock in “The Deadly Assassin” (particularly since it was a Gallifrey/TimeLord story). But in reality, I think I am just clutching at straws in trying to find meaning in what we were presented with.

  • nerys replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @bluesqueakpip Anyway, my bet is that Brendan IS the Timeless Child, and his ‘minders’ are responsible for wiping his memory at the end of every ‘life’.

    Oooohhhhh … boy, am I thick. I was trying to work out who the heck Brendan is, and how he figured into this story. Just as I forgot about him (not a good sign), he kept randomly reappea…[Read more]

  • Miapatrick replied to the topic Ascension Of The Cybermen

    @jimthefish The Doctor is definitely getting interesting, more edge. The bouncy freshness of her original regeneration feeling the pressure, perhaps, of so much time and memory

    .@ollie14, I think so too, but I also agree wit @bluesqueakpip that he’s the timeless child

    We now know that the Time Vortex can do one of two things to human style b…[Read more]

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