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@puroandson- I’m an ex smoker. (Well, I vape) and while I agree about the effects of second hand smoke, I do have a different perspective over the expense of smoking.  In the UK, tobacco is very expensive. A huge chunk of the cost of it is duty paid, it’s tax. It’s quite a lot of tax. Given that not every smoker require substantial NHS treatment- and that, at the same time, smoking does reduce the life span of a lot of people, which means less money spent on pensions, and later life care, I don’t feel that non smokers are paying for smokers exactly.

One problem with the ‘my money paying for someone else’s choices’ argument, is where does it end? Does it include obesity? Does it include having a child with someone when you know there is a significant choice that the child will have a disability, and thus cost the state quite a bit of money down the line? I do understand your frustration, and I’d suggest a higher tax on tobacco might at least mean that the smokers themselves are paying for the effects of their habit. Every so often people talk about a tax on fatty food, a tax on sugar. In a way the high taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol, and the suggestion of extending it to unhealthy food (though first we’d need a consensus on what is unhealthy food, sugar seems to be the only solid one) feels like an attempt to control the behaviour of the poor (the rich, who can afford it, can apparently regulate their own health.) But it can raise money to offset the effects of it.

the $2 million is an alarming figure. It’s never quite registered to me how much cancer costs to treat, despite losing a father to it (not smoking related as far as I know, that is, he never smoked, and had cancer of the bone and blood.)

I’m rarely able to limit myself to a small glass of wine or a couple with dinner! I don’t drink every week anymore, but I’ll confess that’s more to do with my waistline, and losing ability to concentrate first thing in the morning after than my health. Although I suppose it’s all related…

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@janetteB- that’s horrible, bad enough in that situation without having to worry about keeping the allowance that you need. Unfortunately, she will probably be transferred over to PIP this year (possibly next.) PIP is Personal Independence Allowance, which is replacing DLA. The good (ish) thing is that the needs you discuss on the PIP form include help you need even if you aren’t getting it. I’ll send you a link to a website which actually has documents provided by the DWP for assessing applications, breaking down the point system if you like. It makes the application much easier. And if our application is a success I’ll let you know what we did. It’s good to be prepared. And thank you.

@Bluesqueakpip- thank you- it seemed to, she even said at the end that it was all consistent with what was on the form and she was satisfied.  Not trusting it, quite, but nothing I can do for the next five/six weeks. Could have done with different timing, but both are now over and I can breath a little. And thanks for your help, by the way, realy appreciate it.

@TheConsultingDoctor Indeed, far too many have. It’s horrendous right now. Thank you.

@puroandson, @stitchintime @missy- thank you for your luck and good thoughts. Feel like I suddenly have an abundance of time, odd feeling…

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hi everyone, can you wish me luck- we have a PIP assessment at half past two today, I feel physically sick. I’ve read up on the guidelines, we are comfortably (well, it isn’t really comfortable) within the guidelines for high rate, but…

Just hope this all goes through alright and I can give my attention to proper subjects. Like Doctor Who of course! My brains been a bit fragmented, with all this and finishing my creative writing module. Really unfortunate timing. And no new who any times soon!

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sorry, sorry! as @arbutus said, re contrast.

@janetteb- good point over football. There should be some though. James Cordon?

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@missy- oh, don’t use that word! (I don’t know how to make an angry devil face)… but, yup. For all ages, but the biggest bulk of potential new viewers is the young.  Capalidi racing around with a middle aged man- or a middle aged woman for that matter, might lose something there.

as @janetteb says, it is all about the contrast. Agree with all the ones you named. Which is, again, why it worked having River turn up so often with Eleven (and Eleven did also manage, on occasion, to play very, very old.) And why I’m not so keen, looking back, on the Ten- Rose, Ten- Martha days.

@juniperfish- Yes I think Karen was the only really young companion And she had to be, really, for her arc. Jenna was 26. People talk as though it is always teenagers. And as though Donna was the norm BG, she really wasn’t.

As for the name- it doesn’t matter. In about two or three years time, Bill will also be a girls name. Bet you anything.

 

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I wasn’t even sure why I was excited about the companion casting, since I knew it probably wouldn’t be someone I was familiar with. But now I am, moderately, excited. I think there is going to be a change in dynamic. As people as saying, somewhat like Donna (though younger, which will make a difference. I miss Donna.)

It almost had a kind of retro, RTD feel, the clip. And although I prefer Moffart, there was something nice about that.

And, God, all the complainers already going on about how the show is trying to attract a ‘yoof’ audience. Of course they bloody are. It’s supposed to be for all age groups, and with quite an old doctor, a young companion really makes sense, just as pairing Eleven with River so often made sense (and yes I know that age gap was much smaller but tended to get magnified through peoples sexist spectacles.)

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@janetteB- I live near Conwy now! Never made it onto the walls though. Scared of hights.

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@missy- thank you very much. Anyway, ranting and whining over now, promise 🙂

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@jimthefish, thank you, and well put. The good thing is, with the bloody form sent off, I’ve actually in the past couple of days managed to get a decent amount of work done on the final assignment and am entering into a phase of optimism about it. This will fade. Which is the Doctor Who episode about bad things not making the good things meaningless? I know its a Matt Smith one. Think I just need to watch that again.

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Which is most of them to be honest, so really, the fault is mine! :).

I’ve got one more module after this one, but it’s nice to see the finish line. Is it? I’m going to miss studying. Ideally i’ll use all that free time for writing but- that never really happened before, except in bursts. Hopefully my newly developed work habits will persist.

PIP is Personal Independence Payments, which are replacing Disability Living Allowance. It’s mostly about how the persons disability affects them, so I’ve had to slog through my boyfriends medical records (yet again) and select documents to back up our claims, proving (as much as I can) physical disability (he has no solid diagnosis) as well as mental health problems exacerbated by medication.  This typically begins with making me want to weep, and ends up with me developing a fantastically inappropriate sense of humour. ‘Honey, I’ve got to ‘mixing with other people’, I’m going to need a bigger pad of paper!’ (Ironically, fantastically inappropriate sense of humour actually made up one of the paragraphs.)

urgh, anyway, I’m slowly calming down from it all, after burning out two e-cigarettes and posting passing fantasies about smothering him in his sleep. Anyway, the sun is shining, I live near the beach, with five doggies and he really is a nice man. So, count the blessings and all that 😉

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So, Sunday morning, a little past three, I was woken by the sound of someone attempting to remove my head with a chainsaw. I was relieved, at first, to realise it was just my boyfriend, snoring merrily away after a little too much rum, until it dawned on me that being decapitated is a pain that does, mercifully, have a fairly swift end. By half past four I was comforting myself with the thought that uncharacteristic snoring is associated with sudden adult death syndrome. By five I was eyeing the pillows, convinced that I had just solved a medical mystery, but must keep it under wraps until my acquittal.

I think I was more irked because this Sunday was the last full day I had for finishing my second to last assignment for this module, and a PIP form. Anyway, both sent off today, and I’m looking at getting them both back roughly the same time. So, in all likelihood, I shall be working on my final assignment for this module- 50% of the whole mark- at about the same time as I am negotiating the twists and turns of the PIP appeals process. Nothing like positive thinking…

It was my fault really, though. When I went to bed early leaving him with his night-time medication, he and his best friend were sipping, responsibly, on some nice bottles of ale. After I went to bed, however, they found the rum. He’s on an experimental high dosage of amitriptyline, so I can now report to his doctor that the effect of mixing half a bottle of rum with 300mg amitriptyline strongly affects respiration. Clearly my fault, I should have stayed up and helped them drink that rum. Even if his breathing was affected, at least I could have slept through it.

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@puroandson- good idea. I want the finest Pan Galactic Gargel Blaster known to Betelgeuce sevenkind, I want it here, and I want it now. And the head of the man who invented the telephone.

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@stichintime, @janetteb, @puroandson and rest- re the economy. Another fundamental misunderstanding of the economy is people sharing posts on facebook claiming that if we leave the EU there will be less people coming in, and therefore more jobs. When in fact I believe it has been shown that immigration has no significant effect on employment rates. More people mean more jobs, just as people with more money means more jobs. Another fact that many people miss is the number of people claiming housing benefit and tax credits because of the obscene cost of housing in this country. I am incredibly lucky to own my own house, outright, no mortgage, which means when I do get back to work, I can subsist on a relatively low wage because I don’t have the cost of rent or mortgage.

I’ve been reading a collection from the Mass Observation archives from the time of the establishment of the NHS and Welfare state, and it is stunning to see the hostility towards it of the time.

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@dalektor- in theory he ought to be getting more support but its a hard slog to get to that point, and a lot of the support that was available has been cut. He’s 55, illiterate with severe mental problems as well (but a fantastic memory and the one we trust most to look after our dogs).  We tend to take turns helping him out with court appearances (for non payment of council tax, benefit appeals) and meetings with the jobcentre and citizens advice, and money, he’s very proud so we all have lovely gardens. He really needs a qualified support worker, and even supported living, but fat chance of that…

@puroandson- yup, sanctioned. You really couldn’t make it up. Well, George Orwell could have done…

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@Missy- much as I love him- I think I saw him driving down Kings Street in Hammersmith once, but it might just have been a broad, bearded man glaring out through the windscreen and my brain did the rest- a big no. If you were to have an actor of that generation- and I think Capaldi is about at the top of the feasible age range, I’d prefer Timothy West.

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@fatmaninabox- I’m so sorry to hear about that. We’ve just received a notice to apply for PIP cos DLA is running out. We only got it reinstated two years ago, and I’ve pretty much felt sick since opening the letter. My contact with the job centre has been minimal (basically: So, your boyfriend. Still disabled? Yup.) and he’s in the ESA support group, but I’ll end up in their clutches soon enough, having been out of the job market for years, and I’m not quite sure how much help an OU degree is going to be, though I can but help…

We have a friend who loves gardening. He’d he out all day, traveling around, looking for work. And then get sanctioned for not spending enough time applying for jobs on the internet. But he doesn’t really know how to use the internet (he has educational needs) and couldn’t cope with the course they put him on for computer literacy, so they sanctioned him for that as well. Fantastic…

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@puroandson, @people who know how to do things- could we get the Ukip Brexit music video on the music page? With warnings, like.

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@Mersey- that’s interesting. The episode started with the message that Davros ‘remembers’.  I wonder if that simply means for most of his life he had forgotten, which is why he would risk fighting the Doctor, and why he would remember at that point?

I quite like the idea (I don’t want it to happen to myself) of a species who, at the point of death (or close to death, I take it he was exaggerating the proximity) remember everything that has happened in their lives.

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@kbranagh- Maybe Davros didn’t contradict the Doctor because at that moment he was working on the Doctor’s sense of guilt for his dastardly plan! If he realised that in the doctors timeline, he hasn’t yet gone back in time to save the little boy, he can manipulate him, and he doesn’t realise that it is after/because of the failure of his plan that the Doctor goes back.

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Not great news, not too happy with the choice of showrunner or the gap, that said-

I’ve loved Moffart’s who, I’ve loved both Smith and Capaldi’s doctor. Even if I don’t like the next incarnation of the show as much, there are plenty who have hated the last few years of the show (though they hid it well 😉 ) it is the nature of Doctor Who.

I do hope we keep Capalidi for another season, and that Chibnall has learned something from ‘Broadchurch 2’. That sounded a bit arse-y reading it back. I would have preferred Whithouse. But you never know. Didn’t Chibnall write the story board for the Pond’s son turning up? That was nice…

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@ichabod, @puroandson- – I get it over disliking the ‘force of nature’ thing. It sits with me a little like that idea that ‘if women ran the world they’d be no/less war’ (cough Thatcher cough).

You do still see semi serious comments about men having the capacity for abstract thought, and this idea that women are ‘more practical’, rooted in the day to day world. Bad deal, I’ll take the abstract thought. But historically women seem to be frequently either raised onto a pedestal, or pushed down into the gutter, rather than being allowed to stand on even ground.

One thing I like about River is that at least she was presented as an academic (a somewhat Indiana Jones kind of academic) from the start, even if that side was more in the telling, and her adventurous side was what was shown.  I think she has always been shown with a balance of insecurity and ego, a kind of bravado. She is after all a very old human, but a very young timelord. But she’s always been smart, and calculating and, I think, humanly (and timelordly) flawed.

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So sad, and coming, it feels, so close to the death of Lou Reed.

The wonderful thing about Bowie, though, was the fact that he wasn’t done. In a way, asking when his peak period was is as nonsensical as asking which of my dogs is my favourite (whichever one I have hold of right now.)

I’m glad Blackstar was released before it was known he was ill- I don’t think it was known- it would have been impossible to review the album objectively, and this way he went out with some fantastic reviews and responses.

When I was very young, the first time I watched Labyrinth, I turned around and said that ‘that man could be a successful singer’, much to the amusement of my family. It took me a few years to point out that I was eight years old at the time, and the only music I really knew about was that my family played. It wasn’t my fault they were Andrew Lloyd Webber fans…

I think it was Bowie, who when asked (rather rudely) why he was wearing a woman’s dress, replied that he wasn’t. He was wearing a man’s dress.  Oh, and he once made caused me to spend £5 on a bin bag with a hole it in it, in torrential downpour while watching him at Old Traffard.

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@xaxiomatic- a perfectly grown up reaction.

The final scene is the perfect companion to the last scene in the library.

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@jimthefish- I was thinking perhaps modern day Mycroft is lonely- even his dim little brother picked up on it- while Victorian Mycroft seemed in a worse state- and also to be married- which is, of course, Sherlock’s own projection.

(Mycroft is a favourite of mine, as someone whose name is often abbreviated against my will ‘Mycroft is the name you gave me, if you could just struggle through to the end.’ Perfect line.)

 

 

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re: Mycroft- I wasn’t aware that the original Mycroft was overweight. But I thought I saw a wedding wing on Mycroft’s finger and wondered  if this meant that 19th century Mycroft was even more unhappy Than 21st century Mycroft who is lonely, but at least not required to marry in order to seem respectable.

I was confused by the confused ones on the Guardian thread claiming there was no resolution to the mystery. There was. Unlikely as the resolution to the bride case was, the real case was ‘how can Moriarty still be alive, and for the love of god, why? The answer seems to be, of course he isn’t alive himself, the person (shame, though, because I love Scott’s scenes) but something has been set up to carry on beyond his death, using his image and legend.

I also think that it is quite possible that in the end, it will turn out to be twins. Twin sister. I can’t remember her name. but Mary’s friend, who he pretended to have a relationship with. I mean, even in house, sometimes it is Lupus…  and it wouldn’t be the first time a Moriarty has got past Sherlock’s radar by pretending (if not completely pretending) to have a crush on him…

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@puroandson- the Cleopatra line- I wasn’t sure if he meant they had both had relationships with her, or if he was comparing a relationship with Cleopatra to one with River. And I think she knew it was the Tardis, she seemed to imply that she turns up and nicks it quite often and he ‘never notices’. Quite a lot of episodes the Tardis ends up somewhere they are not for part of the story. Cold War and The Girl Who Died are the most extreme examples, but it really only needs to be unattended for a couple of minutes.

It was a good episode wasn’t it? And it turned out to be part of an arc after all!

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Oh and I loved this: ‘marry the diamond’.

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OK, so I was watching that much drunker than usual, and in the middle of an insanely complicated family reunion.

It was fun. Better fun than I think the trailer promised. I liked the reversal of ‘hello sweetie’. We’ve seen so much more of River in love that its nice- oh dear, this is me watching as a female isn’t it? I just cried over a Christmas present. We weren’t even suppose to do Christmas today.

Interesting that he was her last date- the one who gave her the screwdriver- after his own experiences in the dial? That puts a different complexion on it I think.

I shall return to the episode tomorrow, when I am more sober and my prodigal stepson not snoozing on my sofa.

Happy Christmass all!

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@mccottonthedoctorfan: I know, its a ret con theory!

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@puroandson- just read my comment back, and to clarify- I’m not thinking of puroson when I’m talking about the complainers, I’m thinking of the Other Parts of the internet. And I do also like an arc, and worry that I will find this episode too silly.

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@Mccottonthedoctorfan- re: Cushing, I have read- it must be somewhere on here- the theory that the Cushing Doctor is Ten’s human version, grown old, somehow in possession of a tardis, traveling with his (and Rose’s)  granddaughter. If that makes it at all better…

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@puroandson- much as I am looking forward to the special, I will admit it looks like a bit of a ‘romp’- and one for the less intense fans. Thing is, last Christmas very much tied into what had gone on before- Clara’s grief, the theme of whether she should continue to travel with him.  I think the one before that was Eleven’s exit? And pretty much the end of an arc. And of course, ‘The Snowman’ was the continuation of the Clara story began in Asylum of the Darleks.

So a lot of people have argued there hasn’t been a ‘proper’ Doctor Who, that non fans could follow. Exactly why this program, of all programs ever made is expected to cater once a year to people who don’t particularly like it has always baffled me. This year, people will complain that it is just a light-hearted romp with no deep emotional continuation of the end of the last series. Complaints about Doctor Who are just as much a part of the tradition.

I am looking forward to this episode, though, just because of things I’ve just deleted realising they might count as spoilers. A couple of facial expressions, I’ll leave it at that. I am expecting there will be some gifts for the fan’s in there, because Moffart loves us really. 😉

 

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@juniperfish, @puroandson- yes, definitely boarding school as endurance test, a kind of English take on the Spartans. I’ve always have that feeling from the boy in the barn scene. And the woman was able to recognise him, in whatever body he turns up in. Not quite as emotionally close as a former nurse, but a prep-school age housemistress, certainly.

I’ll admit orphanage was also an option, till Danny made so much of the Doctor being officer class and the doctor didn’t really argue. I think it would have come up if the Doctor was an orphan. Have you ever seen ‘If…’? I’m pretty sure The Master was in it.

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@Bluesqueakpip- I like that idea. She gives him a way out, which is bound to make him arrive on Gallifrey exactly as pissed off as she wants him to be.

@morpho- it’s a nice theory, and in terms of events I like it. But I also don’t think there is any way in hell Rassillion would ever trust her. Last time he tried to use the Master for something, he discovered that they’d done too good a job at driving the Master mad to ever safely use them, and that, at the end of the day, the Master felt more loyalty towards the Doctor than to the rest of the time lords.

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@Ichabod- I meant he didn’t seem surprised when Missy and Clara turned up at his going out party. I was saying that I thought the big party was to show the difference in his reaction to his own and to Clara’s death, then pointing out that his lack of surprise when Clara and Missy turned up might seem to contradict the idea that he was resigned to dying, since he must have known that Clara would insist on coming with him. Then, thinking back, he wasn’t expecting to be taken by force, was he?

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@Morpho- I think there is a difference between the proposed use of the dial in the first and last episodes. Originally, when Missy had it, he did think he was going to die. He then got out of that for Clara’s sake. Later he was forced into the dial when he was nowhere near dying.

 

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@morpho- I wonder if the party was to highlight the extent of his care for Clara- on discovering that he will, most likely die, he has the dial sent to the appropriate (odd way though that is to refer to Missy) person and throws a big party. When Clara dies he smashes his way out of the confession dial, stages a coup on Gallifray, betrays the people who joined his side and risks the all of time and space he has spent so much of his life protecting. As we saw in The Wedding Of River Song (I think) he would never make that deal for his own life.

That said, he didn’t seem surprised to see either Missy or Clara there. And Clara turning up meant he had to win when he was otherwise resigned to losing.

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@puroandson, @tardisgrade- re Orsan. We don’t really know he is descended from Clara. He behaved as though he felt he had some kind of family link with her, but all we can be pretty sure of, balance of probability, is that he is related in some way to Danny. Danny the orphan, who made no mention of any siblings or other family when she saw him in the orphanage,  but had to slip away at some point for ‘family reasons’…

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@mudlark- yes, at first I disagreed with you, but he would have to be stupid not to know who she was. I agree. He realises, but it doesn’t matter, and that is the sadness in both of them. The love is gone with the memory, though the reasons for love might remain with the information. She tried twice, in Face the Raven and Hell Bent, to persuade him that she didn’t want him to tear up the universe for her. But this is the only way he could be stopped.

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@Ozitenor- that makes sense with Clara, definitely, good spot. But Captain Jack had to heal, I’m pretty sure at one point he got blown up and had to come back ‘the long way’.

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@tardisgrade- oh right, I was confused as to why you’d think that. That’s dreadful! BBC subtitles translated it as tenth, but then, they have the script I suppose.

One thing though- what if he had said ‘twelth’? I don’t think the doctor would have shot him. Was he that keen to get back into a female body?

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@tardisgrae- agree that the diner scenes were lovely.

And I think only the most churlish of fans could object to the guitar now.

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@tardigrade- he asked ‘how many regenerations’. The man said ten. Therefore, not fatal.

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@supernumery, @pedant, @jimthefish-

I don’t think Gallafray is quite ‘back’- though it can clearly be reached, and left- I have to admit I do hope they keep it to a minimum. I was watching some old Who episodes earlier, and decided I’m not a huge fan of the timelords on screen. Is the Doctor still president, though, or has he lost that for being, well, himself? (And you’d think they’d have known by now…) that would make him president of Earth and of Gallifray…

But I think what we saw here was a broader view of the planet then just the elite. And the ordinary people seemed quite lovely. If the war doctor/hero turns up, to the possible wrath of the ruling elite, having just punched his way out of purgatory, what do you do? You make him some soup, of course.

I liked the regeneration, but I didn’t like the male ego comment. Jokes like that slightly diminish both sexes in my opinion. I’m quite happy to see women in military and political roles without having to imply that there are somehow better at them…

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@pedant- who owns the rights to the diner in space? Watching it almost felt like seeing Moffart saying to the BBC: go on, Cancel doctor who. I dare you…

at the very least I can imagine a one off or probably two parter episode where they encounter each other

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@iusedtobethedoctorrs99- Glasgow in space!

 

I was hoping against hope they weren’t going to go down the half human doctor route. It always annoyed me. I mean, why would you cast Paul McGunn and then try to Spokify the character? But I loved the treatment of the ‘Me’ theory. ‘It’s an interesting theory’

This was a good send off for Clara. Not quite a cheat- death can’t be cheated. But- as I think Bluesqueakpip would be glad to know given her reservations about ‘Face the Raven’- instead of being ‘punished’ for trying to be the doctor, she gets to run around the universe in an American diner having adventures. And Me became a companion after all. (Is it me or did the last billions after billions of years mellow her?)

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One question- so I’m reading the scripts for the first two episodes because I don’t have them saved on my catch-up and I wanted to binge watch before Saturday.

The part where he wheels into the room of Dalaks in Davros’s chair. The line is given as ‘face it, you’ve all had this exact nightmare’. I had thought the line was ‘WE’VE all had this exact nightmare’ which just seems so much better. Did they change it or did I miss hear?

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@jphamlore- yup, that’s what you get for wearing sunglasses indoors…

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@hillforest and @puroandson- you’ve both made me realise how this scene relates right back to the Doctor’s first episode- Clara in the room with the clockwork man ‘I’ll stand a lot of torture before I give up the one thing that’s keeping me alive’. That was when he, seemingly, left Clara to look after herself. She really is in his head.

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@Ozitenor- great comments. I agree about the dust and the extra suit of clothes especially, and the re-sets. Thinking about it, I don’t know why I was assuming that his death would trigger a re-set in the same way as his confessions.

Re the Tardis- I wonder if we are supposed to think he means the tardis is behind the- yeah, lets just call it diamond- wall. But I hadn’t remembered exactly what it was he said. If it was something like ‘the final piece of the puzzle’ the could he have actually meant the whole bigger on the inside, Timelord tec?

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