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@ps1l0v3y0u

The theory that a Ladydoc shouldn’t in anyway ape a ‘blokedoc’ is not necessarily unsound.

Whittaker is far too good an actor to fall into that particular trap, I think. Watching a selection of her predecessors might at least have given her a better idea of who and what the Doctor is, without her feeling any need to adopt speci…[Read more]

@bobbyfatv2

On the subject of names, The Rani addressed the baby’s father as Herr Zufall which is certainly significant, since Zufall means chance/happenstance – entirely appropriate for the seventh son of a seventh son in a Black Forest fairy tale.

@thane16

Greetings Puro.

why does Ruby feel the need to see Conrad face to face? She isn’t h…

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@missrori

Poppy and the army can’t do anything if they’re dead, and they all just fell into giant purple portals with buildings collapsing onto them to boot. The whole Earth’s gone to dust, and they’re not going to have a TARDIS swooping in to scoop them up. We already know from previous episodes that Earth is dead-dead-dead post May 24 2025, an…

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@ps1l0v3y0u

I well know that feeling of seeing a long and carefully thought out post disappear into the ether. The answer I’ve found is to copy everything before hitting submit; then, if it goes astray you can just paste and repost it

@ps1l0v3y0u  @janetteb  @dentarthurdent

Throughout Chib’s tenure I tried when commenting to seize on anything positive and downplay the rest, but by the end I felt it was wasted effort – and it was often an effort. The Timeless Child concept does smack of a Cartnell type plan and I have no particular problem with it as such, if only it had been i…[Read more]

@scaryb

The whole point of the false world is that it can be destroyed by doubt… And the Doctor’s breakthrough doubt is powerful enough to break into the underverse where Omega is supposedly trapped.

Yes, the Rani made that very clear in her exposition to the Doctor. The reasoning seems straightforward enough: the universe is too robust and sta…[Read more]

After a second viewing I think I may have a better overall grasp of where this is going.

Knowing that the Rani’s purpose is to resurrect Omega helps make sense of much of the episode. In The Three Doctors Omega was sustaining his existence by using the singularity at the heart of a black hole and the power of his own will to sustain an existence…[Read more]

@nerys

Yes, the story of the Doctor’s origins as the Timeless Child was first related to her by the Master, as was the first mention of the Division by name, and if that were all, it might be possible to dismiss the whole thing as a lie; an invention on his part to get back at her and justify his genocidal actions. The problem is that everything…[Read more]

@janetteb  @ps1l0v3y0u  @whohar

The problem with trying to fit Ruth Doc into the line of Doctors 1 to 13, at least for me, is that it means not only jettisoning the Timeless Child narrative – i.e. Awsok/Tecteun was lying through her teeth, but that the Division shenanigans were were contemporary with the lives of at least some of the in…[Read more]

At least one more viewing will be necessary before I can hope to sort out my thinking on this episode as a whole, but in the meantime, a few random observations.

Like @whohar my first thought, about ten minutes in, was of The Wedding of River Song (Husbands was the Christmas special) in that reality was being perverted.

In the introductory…[Read more]

@whohar

As @scaryb says, all hail! In essentials you to have evidently acquired powers of foresight or prophesy.

@scaryb

 I’m also not clear about the hair thing – does the hair growing back indicate time passing in the real world? Why does the Barber cut his own hair as he’s revealing his own story?

While I’m trying to digest Wish World (stories again, featuring the Rani as the Wicked Witch) yes, a good point. My take, for what it is worth, is that the cu…[Read more]

@whohar

The chief problem I have with your proposed scenario for the finale is that it’s an awful lot of material to cram into two episodes, and this is a series in which, as several people have observed, there have already been episodes which might have been better developed over more than 50 minutes. I agree also with @whisht and @blenkinsoptheb…[Read more]

@whohar

Interesting lists to ponder.

Observations 2-4: I’m still not convinced that Belinda is anything other than she seems – unless she’s been chameleon arced almost her whole life. I suggested a possible explanation for her recognition of the Tardis in post 77377 in the discussion on The Well, and I took her ‘Then let’s go home to Gallifrey’…[Read more]

For decades people speculate about the return of two characters in particular to the show, then both turn up, one after the other (and one in duplicate) in the same episode – like London buses as one commenter observed in t’other place. It will be interesting to see what RTD does with the Rani, but I doubt it will be subtle.

It takes nerve, I…[Read more]

@whohar

The slight problem with this that I can see, is that Abena was talking out loud about this meeting with Doc 15, and his response indicated that he was aware of this event.

Yes, my memory was at fault here on this and one or two other points. Having had another look. I still think that the Fugitive Doctor we saw was meant to be an image in…[Read more]

@ps1l0v3y0u

Yes, Ruth Doctor. RTD has evidently accepted the Chibs retcon thus far. Whether he will run with it is another matter.

Based on the T C/Division/memory wipe narrative, Gatwa Doctor should remember meeting Ruth Doc and have accepted that she was a previous incarnation of himself, but have no recollection of actually being Ruth Doc…[Read more]

@whisht  @whohar

 If he’s the storyteller of the gods then why did he need to hold people hostage and force them to tell stories?

My reading, which of course may be well off the mark, is that he began, as he said, as a mortal – a griot telling stories. To connect the stories  he gathered from all over the world he constructed a web, the Nexus,…[Read more]

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