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28 May 2017 at 21:13 #58172
@cathannabel My true blunder was mixing up height & weight in the listing. It’s 3 times more clear on iplayer…
(See @ 5 minutes 47 seconds)
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Height: 176.6cm
Weight: 130.2lbs
Heart rate: 79 (bpm?)
Temperature: 37.6 (degrees c?)
(Means she’s just over 9 stone & nearly 5ft8)
28 May 2017 at 20:28 #58169@cathannabel What I mean top say is that the pic is just there to demonstrate which stats I’m on about (& that I’m not just randomly listing off a lady’s statistics…!)
I honestly didn’t expect anyone to begin to attempt to read it. You must have a big screen!
Sorry for the confusion…..
28 May 2017 at 19:57 #58168@cathannabel You’re right – It’s the wrong picture. It’s from Extremis (couldn’t find a grab of the right pic).
I was reading stats off of the tv (also very small) whilst watching TPATEOTW though…
28 May 2017 at 18:37 #58165A lot of people saying the Monks look like the Pyroviles. Methinks they look more like Starving Weeping Angels…
What if they’re quantum unlocked Angels? Maybe they are the mid-stage between Angels & Time Lords?

So Bill’s stats – looks like she’s 26 years old, 167.6lbs… I can’t read the rest….. (maybe the 6s are 5s? -anyone got a microscope?)
Hmmm… That’s 11 or 12 stone… doesn’t seem right…28 May 2017 at 12:46 #58148Got to wonder why the Doctor bothered giving Nardole human lungs at all (never mind cheap knock offs). If he’s mostly human, which bits are robotic?
Doctor Who is set in a different universe to ours. TPATEOTW has an orange president – probably Trump. Perhaps an Oompa Loompa or the Tango man… Presumably the Monks have tried several simulations including ones with Hillary Clinton as POTUS…
Must assume that Bill has gone on many more adventures than we’ve seen (see comics & novels)…..
27 May 2017 at 23:47 #58123Also there’s a ‘Highlander’ episode called ‘One minute to Midnight’…
27 May 2017 at 23:41 #581224th Wall:
It looks like the Doctor might save the World by becoming a TV Show…
27 May 2017 at 23:13 #58121‘They’re watching us…….’
Monk: …See the days to come. (Reminiscent of this scene from ‘Pyramids of Mars’:)
The Tardis lands, and the doors open to show a bleak, rocky landscape with howling winds and an electrical storm.)
DOCTOR: 1980, Sarah, if you want to get off.
(Sarah doesn’t, and the doors close.)
SARAH: It’s a trick!DOCTOR: No. That’s the world as Sutekh would leave it. A desolate planet circling a dead sun.
Writer in joke:
DOCTOR: Planet Earth & not a single living thing…..Dead as the Moon.
(The Moon is actually a living dragon egg)…
ERICA: Oh my God…..
DOCTOR: No. I’m the Doctor. But it’s an easy mistake to make. It’s the eyebrows.
27 May 2017 at 22:35 #58114I wonder if this strategy will be used next episode…….
DOCTOR: …Every trap you walk into is a chance to learn about your enemies. Impossible to set a trap without making a self portrait of your own weaknesses.
BILL: Great! Unless it kills us…
27 May 2017 at 22:20 #5811127 May 2017 at 22:07 #58106Things are similar but different. Instead of the Pope interrupting the date, this time it’s the UN Secretary General…..
If there’s a third real reality, who’s going to be the new interrupter?
Also: Monks on a plane = Most amusing…..
27 May 2017 at 21:52 #5810027 May 2017 at 21:36 #58096Predict all possible futures with this delightful decorative curtain…..
27 May 2017 at 21:16 #58093The only bit that grated was:
World peace resolved in one handshake. Reminds me of that (very difficult to render without being cringy) bit in ‘The Curse of Fenric’…
(After nearly everyone has killed each other…..)
BATES: We’re all right now. We’re fighting together now.
VERSHININ: War, a game played by politicians. We were just pawns in the game, but the pawns are fighting together now. Eh, comrade?
ACE: That’s it. The solution. The winning move.It’s a nice sentiment, though…
27 May 2017 at 13:39 #58073Someone will post this. Might as well be me…..
26 May 2017 at 17:29 #58051Is it just me or does she look like Theresa May?
25 May 2017 at 21:29 #5802624 May 2017 at 19:45 #5799724 May 2017 at 17:54 #57994This is actually a fan film. Didn’t know where to plonk it so….. Well worth a watch if you’re a 2000AD fan…
24 May 2017 at 17:52 #57993How we all hope the rest of the series pans out…
24 May 2017 at 12:32 #57981Dark Crystal prequel TV series (‘Age of Resistance’) announced. Filming begins this year. Will air on Netflix.
22 May 2017 at 20:09 #57877Weird to think that Susan (& her son Alex) teamed up with the 8th Dr in the audios & that ‘Night of the Doctor’ supposedly makes the audios canon.
Also this bit from SJA ‘Death of the Doctor’ implies that at some point the Doc has gone/will go back for Ian & Barbara…
RANI: Do you think there’s lots of Jo Grants out there? You know, like the Doctor’s old companions?
SARAH JANE: I do a little search sometimes.
CLYDE: What do you google, Tardis?
SARAH JANE: It works. No, I can’t be sure, but there’s a woman called Tegan in Australia, fighting for Aboriginal rights. There’s a Ben and Polly, in India, running an orphanage there. There was Harry. Oh, I loved Harry. He was a doctor. He did such good work with vaccines. He saved thousands of lives. And there’s a Dorothy something. She runs that company, A Charitable Earth. She’s raised billions. And this couple in Cambridge, both professors. Ian and Barbara Chesterton. Rumour has it, they’ve never aged. Not since the sixties. I wonder.
22 May 2017 at 18:21 #57872@phaseshift Bowie found! Plus 5.15 (pm) is the transmission time of the 1st ever episode of Who in 1963…
I can’t work out if what’s in the vault is Eric Roberts or a GooSnake…
22 May 2017 at 13:10 #57858‘It’s not something that’s ever likely to happen but what with regeneration ever present in our minds this series what would it be like if the Doctor’s regeneration was actually triggered by something other than self-sacrifice this time (say, suicide)?’
Reminds me of the other Frobisher (John)…

‘Who frowned me this face?’
21 May 2017 at 21:42 #5780321 May 2017 at 17:09 #57783(Grasping at straws) Penelope was the wife of Odysseus…
There must be Bowie somewhere…..
I wonder if the Papal role was before or after Brad Pitt in her timestream?
I didn’t know Sophie Winkleman or what she looked like. Here’s a pic:

We learnt that the Doctor’s killed shedloads of beings but he won’t kill his friend… (& still I wonder if he nearly did?)
21 May 2017 at 13:51 #57777It’s a bit pessimistic of Nardole to presume the Dr won’t share the blindness secret with Bill for his own selfish reasons. Maybe the Doc doesn’t want her to feel guilty…?!
Nardole seems to call the Dr an old dog (‘You old dog!’) when Benedict the 9th is described as an old friend (of the Doc’s)… Presumably then she is another old girlfriend/ex wife/buddy with benefits of his?
Steven Moffat on life running the BBC’s cult classic and what’s next
21 May 2017 at 12:11 #57768I forgot to say that the episode neatly reflects the view held by many Christians (& I suppose others): That this world is not real – It is merely a test to decide where you will go next…
21 May 2017 at 11:28 #57765Welcome @steffstaff ! Great first post.
21 May 2017 at 11:05 #57764‘Virtue is only virtue in extremis!’
This episode conjures up some strange images of what’s been going on off-screen.
Firstly, there is the picture of Daleks gossiping with Missy about the Doctor & his love life.
‘Domestic bliss on Darillium… That’s the word among the Daleks.’
The other weird vision that enters my mind is the Doctor enacting his program of reform of Missy back at the vault. I can imagine they got stuck on lesson 1: Empathy…
Carnathon is the execution planet. Not sure if this is riffing off Carnathan (surname meaning victorious) and/or Caernarfon (a place in Wales) or neither…
I wonder if the Doctor will take up the offer of confession? If he cares about his own ‘salvation’? (Regrets – He’s had a few…)
‘Hope is the search engine of the future’ (see chapter 7: Hope does not disappoint) hope witness reward
Plenty of examples of discovering you’re not real (trope) in sci-fi. No other show on tv mixes up such diverse ingredients as Who though… (Super Mario?!?)

Missy in the vault no surprise=no fun? It was fun to (bonkers) speculate this time rather than just say it’s obvious (like I did when we wondered: who is Missy?)…
I still like to imagine that Moira (destiny/fate) is Chameleon-Arched Missy, learning virtue (but not very successfully). Not sure about the actual likelihood of this though…
20 May 2017 at 22:07 #57733Thanks @craig
Sorry if the spoilerphobes saw my sweaty f*ck up…..
I had a moment of madness.
Very much spoilers in the link (mostly for those who haven’t seen the series trailer) – maybe it should be moved elsewhere.
20 May 2017 at 21:56 #57727@craig Really Sorry – please delete post #57725 – I just realised – the quote contains spoilers duh!
(I have a fever) MY BAD…
20 May 2017 at 21:34 #5772520 May 2017 at 20:39 #5771720 May 2017 at 20:29 #57712‘We Will All Go Together When We Go’
(Tom Lehrer) (& CERN bloke)
20 May 2017 at 18:47 #57707Pan Pipe Pandemic…
20 May 2017 at 17:52 #5770520 May 2017 at 17:45 #57704Good call on the Skeletoids. I imagine Alan McKenzie is already preparing his lawsuit…
Also love:
I wonder if Theresa May still claims to be a fan?
20 May 2017 at 11:45 #5768920 May 2017 at 11:11 #57688(From Wikia)
In DWM 481, following Danny’s death in Death in Heaven, Steven Moffat stated that one possible explanation is that Orson was a lineal descendant of Danny’s.
20 May 2017 at 11:02 #57687Dr Who has a lot of orphans. I wonder which has more; Dickens or Who?
Danny Pink was an orphan. Bill is an orphan. It’s certainly implied that the Doctor is an orphan (also from a ‘young age’).
Tonnes of orphans in Thin Ice.

I don’t think anybody’s been suspicious about Bill’s foster mum, Moira, yet…
Moira means destiny/fate, btw…..
18 May 2017 at 22:51 #57642And if the next Doctor cast is a man, please don’t make it Richard Ayoade. I love him in Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace but…..
…You might as well cast Michael (flamin’) McIntyre…..
18 May 2017 at 22:28 #57641michelle gomez drops hints to how missy will return

‘You’re only supposed to blow the bloody Daleks up!’
18 May 2017 at 22:19 #57640@missrori – Oops! You’re right. I misread it. Probably not Extremis related at all…
18 May 2017 at 18:51 #57632This is definitely a spoiler. Dunno what it means though…
Extremis unreleased illustration
(From forthcoming book Myths & Legends)
18 May 2017 at 18:49 #57631Probably not a spoiler; though Alex Kingston does say something rather odd…
18 May 2017 at 18:46 #57630Spot the Dalek Competition…
18 May 2017 at 15:20 #57625Pearl in her jammies proclaims a possibility of what’s in the vault (making it all the less likely…)
18 May 2017 at 15:12 #57623Nothing spoileriffic in this video…
18 May 2017 at 12:45 #57621If the next Doctor to be cast is a woman; can it please be someone like Miranda Raison or Rachael Stirling; as opposed to Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Sue Perkins or Miranda Hart? (Pleeeeeez!)

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