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  • #25049
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    @whisht.  Ha. Yes, perhaps more appropriate bed time music. (Gentle music, as my son still calls it when I ask him to put on something more appropriate to the hour as he is trying to fall asleep to Top 40.)

    I somehow missed listening to all those Little Richard links, but I went back and played them all and had a great time. I love that kind of thing. Nothing gets my pulse racing like a horn section!

    By the way, I don’t know what kind of ads others are seeing on the Reich link, but I got one for a Motley Crue/Alice Cooper concert. Certainly not what I was expecting when I hit the link.  And then, one of the Little Richard links produced a French Mazda ad that featured a pair of cellists playing the Kinks’ “All Day and All of the Night”!

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    @barnable  @purofilion  @doctorhow    Interesting. I’m not sure if it has been suggested before that the doctor actually changed his past in tWoRS. I think it’s usually assumed that he was always in the Tesselecta, faking regeneration. But I guess if we are assuming the two-timestream scenario in some cases, it’s open season on all the others.  🙂

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    @barnable     I think the most important thing is just to find an explanation for ourselves that will allow us to still enjoy the episodes and not feel ripped off.

    Agreed. This is why I also subscribe to the “create your own canon” school of fandom. Although if something in my personal canon is flatly contradicted by the show, I will usually, if ungracefully, give in. (Although not always– my Doctor is not half-human!  🙂  )

    In this case, I agree with @bluesqueakpipAs far as the rest of the universe is concerned, Gallifrey was known to have been destroyed. As far as the Doctor remembers, he destroyed it. This works for me, and I’m sticking to it!  🙂

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    @barnable

    But the doctors themselves agree that they will not be able to remember, both the War Doctor and Ten say it specifically. So I really don’t think there’s any question of them remembering it on the second time line, unless they were wrong when they said it. But I would expect the Doctor to know how these things work.

    Also, on an artistic level, I’ll admit I don’t like the notion of a massive retcon that renders the entire run of the new series to this point irrelevant. And if, in the second time stream, the Doctor remembers not destroying Gallifrey, there are so, so many events that would have to happen differently, that we would have to assume that much of what we have watched since 2004 has now never happened. I get that the showrunners can do that if they want to, but in my view it would be pretty cheap. (Hopefully that’s not too ARSE of a viewpoint!  🙁  )  Personally, if the out of sync time stream thing seems just too vague, I rather prefer @barnable‘s Moment-mind-power idea over the idea that the Doctor actually can remember what happened. It’s actually a perfectly reasonable idea. And of course, by remembering, I mean prior to the Eleventh experiencing the events himself.

    I also like @bluesqueakpip‘s idea that the Moment, in a sense, allows him to remember the fez by opening the portal in front of him (like a memory jog).

    #25024
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    @craig     He does read beautifully. I love his long-suffering version of Sam-I-Am’s beleaguered friend, holding his temper for so long, until finally exploding just before the end. When I used to read this story aloud to my son, the protagonist was not nearly as patient. Brilliant!

     

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    @purofilion:

    Puro, you need to try linking a video, it’s really easy. Just find the one you want, and copy the URL from the top of the browser and paste it into your post. It only needs to be contained in its own paragraph, and it should work. Anyway, I have posted it for you, and now @whisht and I can listen to it this evening before bed. I don’t think our heads will hurt!

     

    #25018
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    Ah yes, @purofilion, mindwobble, I hate when that happens!  🙂

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    @scaryb   Okay, yes, I think we were actually talking about two different things.  🙂  Because I was trying to figure out why the Doctor as Nine, Ten, and most of Eleven would not be able to remember these events, based on the line about the time streams being out of sync– which as you suggest is probably just technobabble for “get out of jail free card so that different doctors aren’t stuck knowing all kinds of things about the future that they shouldn’t, because of having met their future selves in a timey-wimey way”!    😀

    And yes, Eleven should not have been able to remember the appearance of the fez followed by himself, except that if he hadn’t, he wouldn’t have known to throw the fez and jump in. This is the same thing that came up in Time Crash, when Ten and Five met, and Ten remembered what to do because Five saw him do it.

    Sometimes I think being a DW fan is a lot like being a Baker Street Irregular. It is really, really difficult getting all this stuff to make sense, when we can’t just admit that the answer is “the writers change the rules to suit themselves”!

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    @scaryb   My only problem with this is that I thought that it had been stated pretty explicitly that the Doctor will not remember. That is, Eleven remembers it happening after the place in his timeline when it occurred, but that up until that point, he has had no recollection of it. This suggests that the only way for him to now remember it would be if there really has been a rewriting of all the events of the AG series up until TotD, because if he can remember it now, that means that he has remembered it all along. I guess this is possible, but I can’t say I would be comfortable with it as it would mean that we now have no idea of the Doctor’s history between the Time War and now.

    I can only explain the conflict between this explanation and what the Doctor said to Amy as a result of there being something specific to this situation that is different to others. I suspect that if there is, it has to do with the Doctor crossing his own timeline. Because presumably all those earlier doctors who show up to help save Gallifrey won’t remember it, either.

    Okay. Head hurting now. Need more tea. (And possibly to get back to my actual work!)   🙂

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    @whisht      My naive take on Reich and Glass was that Glass did the ’emotional’ stuff (with certain tricks to tug at the heart) and Reich the more ‘rigorous intellectual’ stuff, exploring rhythms and patterns.

    I think that’s a pretty commonly-held view. I actually prefer Reich to Glass myself, I find his music engages me more. But I don’t really listen to a lot of minimalist music, so I am only familiar with it in a general way. I believe that @purofilion is the resident expert!  🙂

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    I’m loving the absence of background music. In modern TV, there seems to be a constant need to fill the silences with ambient music. Here, we get to listen to geiger counters, creaking floorboards, and sometimes, just actual silence. I love the scene in the haunted house, complete silence in the background and lots of contemplative spaces between the lines of dialogue. Only a brief bit of eery music at one point to build suspense, but very low key. I think that contemporary makers of film and television are a bit afraid that if things slow down at all, the audience will lose interest and move on. So dialogue is fast-paced with little or no breathing space, and any gaps are filled in with music (kind of like in shops; oh no, just don’t get started on that subject!).

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    @purofilion     That’s a cool notion, that Captain Grumpy might actually see The Moment/Bad Wolf as looking and acting fairly different than Rose Tyler, to the point where Nine might not actually recognize her when he encounters her later. There, @brewski, there’s a third possible explanation for the Rose Tyler/Moment memory problem!

    #24998
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    @scaryb    Except that if the doctor does remember both versions, that would imply a completely rewritten timeline, in which the doctor’s behaviour would probably be quite different than it was. But there’s nothing (in The Time of the Doctor, at least) to indicate that the doctor now has a past that differs in any significant way from his first one.

    Amy”s situation is hard to compare to, because I think we know less about it. We don’t know exactly when the time streams un-synched in her case, nor do we know exactly how closely they re-aligned afterward. And there must have been three time streams, one in which she had parents, one in which the cracks appeared and she lost them, and a third in which the parents were back. It may not have been possible for all that divergence to properly realign, which might have been why she was confused and remembered both having and not having parents.

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    @brewski   Yes, I agree that Rose becomes a problem. However, I think it could be pretty easily explained away. For instance, regenerative confusion might have led him to forget the form taken by the Moment. Or, perhaps the time streams went out of sync slightly earlier, as in when the conscience of the Moment first appears. This could be the point of change, since we know that the first time around, the interaction must have gone quite differently.

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    Agh. I tried twice to remove the preceding post and didn’t seem to be able to make it work. The edit function will apparently let you make changes, but not completely delete something. Please disregard it, I have reposted it in its proper place on The Day of the Doctor Thread.

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    @brewski

    Aha, a puzzle. I worked out a lovely complicated explanation for why the Doctor doesn’t remember what happened in DotD. Then I looked at your question again. If you are asking why the War Doctor specifically doesn’t remember, then that’s easy. Because he regenerated immediately afterward and didn’t get the chance to remember or not.

    In fact, that’s a actually a cool thought. Maybe Nine, Ten, and Eleven didn’t remember saving Gallifrey because Captain Grumpy regenerated immediately afterward, and regeneration confusion/memory loss set in and removed the recollection from his mind. Although, the doctors all did seem to know that they wouldn’t remember, in any case.

    My other explanation has to do with the Tenth Doctor’s line “The time streams are out of sync”, and some confused thoughts about what that actually means vis a vis the dual time stream theory. I think that the period of time when the three doctors are together is the point of divergence. But eventually time heals itself, and brings those two time streams into sync with one another, leaving only the smallest differences between the two. This is why the doctor will forget: all three incarnations are aware of both streams of events now, because the time streams are still out of sync, but once they are realigned, the doctor will forget what happened when they were out of sync.

    In answer to question 2, the answer is no. Not remotely!  🙂

    #24973
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    @brewski

    Aha, a puzzle. I worked out a lovely complicated explanation for why the Doctor doesn’t remember what happened in DotD. Then I looked at your question again. If you are asking why the War Doctor specifically doesn’t remember, then that’s easy. Because he regenerated immediately afterward and didn’t get the chance to remember or not.

    In fact, that’s a actually a cool thought. Maybe Nine, Ten, and Eleven didn’t remember saving Gallifrey because Captain Grumpy regenerated immediately afterward, and regeneration confusion/memory loss set in and removed the recollection from his mind. Although, the doctors all did seem to know that they wouldn’t remember, in any case.

    My other explanation has to do with the Tenth Doctor’s line “The time streams are out of sync”, and some confused thoughts about what that actually means vis a vis the dual time stream theory. I think that the period of time when the three doctors are together is the point of divergence. But eventually time heals itself, and brings those two time streams into sync with one another, leaving only the smallest differences between the two. This is why the doctor will forget: all three incarnations are aware of both streams of events now, because the time streams are still out of sync, but once they are realigned, the doctor will forget what happened when they were out of sync.

    In answer to question 2, the answer is no. Not remotely!  🙂

    #24969
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    @scaryb  –  Thanks for Drift Away! That album was huge in our house when it first came out, and I’ve always loved that song. I just can’t not sing along.

    @fatmaninabox  –   I remember “The Snake”! It must have gotten a lot of airplay here at some point, because it came right back to me as I listened. However, I had to look it up to figure out where I’d heard the Hannon song (face palms!). Hilarious. Having forgotten “The Snake” I would never have put those two together before now.

    Love watching the dance scenes, wasn’t it a much more innocent time? Thanks for the links, I’m getting a sense now of northern soul. I realize that I used to hear a lot of this kind of thing in the seventies, but wouldn’t have known what to call it!

    #24954
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    I was thoroughly amused by those Amazon reviews. Is anyone but me frequently impressed by how really clever some people are? This kind of thing is the reason that I continue to plough through the piles of stupidity that fill comments and reviews on the internet. I particularly liked this: “set entirely in a quarry in Wales, filmed on location in Singapore”.   😀

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    I’d forgotten about this brilliant recording until I heard one of the tracks on the BBC yesterday: The Hilliard Ensemble singing medieval and renaissance music as a base for the improvisations of saxophonist Jan Garbarek. Something both serene and jazzy for a late Sunday morning (at least in my world: Sunday evening for many of you).

    #24951
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    @fatmaninabox   For some reason, the link didn’t work in Canada, but I went and found the video myself. Fun, very classic dance sound and what a great voice. I then went and educated myself on “northern soul”! One lifetime is just not long enough to listen to all the music out there, I think I need to learn how to regenerate!  🙂

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    @marionziemke       Yes indeed, Metric. I like the full band version as well, but the acoustic take has a reflective feel to it, and allows you to focus on the melody and the singer’s voice, both of which I think are quite lovely.

    @whisht    They’re a Canadian band, once again introduced to me by my pop-music-loving teenager. When he plays “drop the needle” they’re one of the few bands I can always identify, because I find her voice so distinctive. I confess that many of the women singing top-40 pop to sound a little  mix’n’match to my ears!

    And by the way, my wifi is pretty good, and it still takes a long time for the music page to load when it starts getting full.  🙂

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    Also seconding @purofilion, this thread is loads of fun. Well done suggesting it, @whisht! I’m hearing so much great music: current pop and rock (not my strength), and also lots of great British stuff that I missed out on in the past. Do keep it coming, everyone.  🙂

    #24904
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    Still thinking about music for the Twelfth Doctor, but I think I have finally come up with something for Martha. I think that after the traumatic events of “Last of the Time Lords”, she would have had some moments alone, when she reflected on her time with the Doctor and where her life was going, that helped her reach her decision to leave him. Those thoughts might have gone a bit like this song.

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    @whisht    No, no, the thread is alive!!!!  I meant to post on here last night, but the comments in my “recent activity” sidebar moved out of sight and I forgot. (That happens to me all the time with my email inbox as well.) I played the Eno yesterday afternoon as indicated and it provided a nice eery background to my activities.

    Re: Big New Prinz, I don’t say it often in normal life, but really, OMG. After that and Joy Division (thanks, @fatmaninabox!), I am thoroughly awake now!

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    @purofilion    I love this: I would like him to send skitters of panic up our spines as he plays one group of enemies against another.  I love the skitter of panic! That’s exactly what I meant about the Fourth Doctor and how he could be a little scary sometimes.

    And this:  The doctor has a fundamentally magic personality. He certainly does. Magnetic. But magnets can repulse as well as attract!  ☺

    There should definitely be some coldness in the Doctor, the “shard of ice at his heart”. This is the alien part. Sometimes it can fool us into thinking that it is just a slight detachment, like that of a scientist, and it is a reminder that the Doctor doesn’t necessarily view things the same way that we do. But it’s more than that. It’s about what he isn’t, and what he is: he isn’t human, and he is time lord. I think that we could be reminded of that, sometimes, as much is often made of his disapproval of the time lords, and how he left, but of course, you can’t altogether leave your background behind. Leaving didn’t make him human. It just made him a different sort of time lord.

    I also love this phrase: “intensely cultivated, mannered charm”. I think that he has had this before, and also been less spontaneous, more calculating, the Seventh Doctor being the most obvious example of it. And the Eleventh has also behaved in a highly manipulative manner at times.

    Oh, this is fun. Really, the BBC should be hiring all of us to give them their background material… or at the very least, reading this forum!  🙂

     

     

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    @barnable      I like the idea of a little Doctor/companion conflict, and it wouldn’t even have to be a case of the Doctor being unlikeable. It could just be a personality clash, a case of pushing each other’s buttons. I could see this working really well with Clara, as she is a perky, bossy sort who had a great dynamic with the Eleventh Doctor’s affectionate, fairly cuddly persona. He never seemed to have a problem being bossed around by strong-willed young woman! But I suspect that his successor will be a different kettle of fish, and it would be easy enough to have them more at odds with one another.

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    @blenkinsopthebrave      I’ve only had a single shot latte this morning, but there’s a pot of tea now so I’m good to go! I love your thoughts about the new Doctor. I think the Doctor has always been at his best when he was crafty, rather than “heroic”, and I agree that it would be nice if this were played up a bit more than it has been lately. On the flip side, it would be fun to see him a little more carefree. He knows that Gallifrey was not destroyed; shouldn’t he be prepared to have some fun now? And that could set up some great mood swings: from “Let’s have tea, look at this lovely spot,” to “There’s evil here, it must be defeated at any cost!”

    I’m definitely on board with “rebel time lord”. Personally, I think it’s actually necessary. It would be beyond belief for the Doctor to have completely forgotten what was going on with the High Council at the end of the Time War, not to mention all of the conflicts he’d had with them in the past. I would expect him to want to “fix” them before or while bringing them back.

    Interesting thoughts about the Doctor’s “moral compass”. Did you read this great post on Den of Geek recently? I really liked the writer’s take on the Doctor as being more flawed, more of a “work in progress”, which is completely supported by the past fifty years of stories. It seems to me that after the first AG season, most attempts to show the Doctor as flawed were pretty much abandoned, except for a few occasions late in the Tennant era, and one great line of Matt Smith’s: “Good men don’t need rules. Today’s not the day to find out why I have so many.” (Quoting from memory, so I might not have it exactly right.) That was a great, great line for the Doctor, but it wasn’t often supported by his actions during the Smith/Moffat era. I’m with you, I’d love to see more of that sort of thing: maybe not abandoning the hero altogether, but a little more swinging back and forth between?

    http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/28960/doctor-who-the-doctors-morality

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    @schultze101  @whisht

    Indeed, a wonderfully articulate post. “My Doctor” is definitely Four, and he was my first doctor, so the “post regeneration” theory doesn’t apply in my case. I didn’t have him long the first time round, but later rebroadcasts of the series from the start only cemented my feelings for Tom Baker’s wonderfully giddy, dark, anarchic take on the character. He was very alien, very charming, very frightening, and very much someone I would have liked to travel with!

    But I have enjoyed all the doctors in different ways. There is no one doctor I wouldn’t watch (although some episodes didn’t always shine for me: that still happens!). Interestingly, my close seconds are two very very different doctors: Eight (based on his audio plays, not the rather dire TV movie) and then, at last, Eleven.

    Like you, I enjoyed Nine and loved Ten. But I rarely felt in either of them the sense of being centuries old and from another civilization. I like my doctors to feel a little “out of time”. I didn’t really expect to love Matt Smith’s doctor, mainly because he seemed even younger and more contemporary than the preceding two. But boy, was I wrong. I’d say that the exact moment he won me over was partway into “The Eleventh Hour”, when, after several minutes of playing the fool with food, his voice suddenly darkened and he said to little Amelia, “That must be a hell of a scary crack in your wall.” At that moment, he was the Doctor: young and old, frothy and ominous, and definitely someone you wanted on your side!

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    @whisht   Wow, that was a great start to my morning! What a voice. I was blown away by the Chicken Talk number. Fascinating back story as well.

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    Hurray! I have never seen this, although I’ve read about Quatermass of course. Such fun. Like @fatmaninabox, I love the tempo at which these stories move; as with early DW, there is a measured pace that allows a slow, delicious build-up of events and suspense. I also agree with @blenkinsopthegrave, the soundtrack is wonderful! It adds so much to the atmosphere and the sense of drama.

    @bluesqueakpip     They are aware that this job is attracting a lot of Very Important People who could potentially drop them in the smelly stuff. The actors don’t appear to regard these VIP’s as their ‘betters’. More as a collection of storm clouds that might p*ss down at any moment.      I think that this was then and is now a very typical view of the “suits” above from the ones that actually get the work done!

    So funny that even the paleontologist doesn’t even stop to think that it makes no sense for the bomb to be below the fossils!

     

    #24845
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    @serahni @scaryb    Yes, knowing the Doctor and his lifestyle, I’m pretty sure those boots will be broken in in no time at all!  🙂

     

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    @whisht   So glad you like the Perotin. Being a medievalist, I am a bit of a polyphony junkie! I am indeed familiar with the Sixteen, and was lucky enough to see them live when they came here (shockingly many years ago now!). Their Renaissance Christmas recording is one of my very favourites.

    And thank you, thank you, both you and @scaryb, for the Pete Seeger. His voice was a huge part of my childhood, and then later, part of my son’s too. Such a warm and wise person, and he always seemed ageless.

    @fatmaninabox, I think that Peru’s biggest export must be street musicians. We hear lots of them here, their lovely haunting pipes blending in with the sunshine and adding to the “mellow vibe” of Vancouver in the summer.

     

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    @whisht    Gorgeous song! Thanks, I will definitely be doing some exploration.

    Here is a link especially for @whisht, @purofilion, and anyone else who likes the meditative and hypnotic. The Hilliard Ensemble performing liturgical music from late 12th-century Paris. (This is some of what these guys were recording when they weren’t doing Arvo Pärt!) Warning, it is a very long track!

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    @bluesqueakpip, I’m sure that if David Tennant had been allowed to use his own accent, the Tenth Doctor would have been a much tougher character altogether.  🙂

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    And @whisht, that Elbow song was absolutely perfect. I hadn’t heard them before, loved it!

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    @whisht @fatmaninabox

    I know, I know, I just did the same thing. Also went for the Bohemian Rhapsody (who could resist?). And that second track, I remember it from TV, literally from years ago, how is it that I remember that when so many other things have been deleted? Oh, dear, oh dear, I will have to stop laughing now, really.

     

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    Ha! I like this. 😀  Tough but stylish. Not too old fashioned, but not too ordinary. Well done!

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    On storytelling and orchestrally-minded rock, I give you Coldplay, one of my son’s favourite bands (thanks again, B, for keeping me at least a bit relevant!).  He recently analyzed this song for a poetry assignment, and we had an interesting conversation about the imagery contained in its lyrics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJMxhvVf0o

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    Here are two bonkers tunes from a children’s cd by Sandra Boynton, the wonderful cartoonist and children’s writer (among other things).

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    Wow, everyone’s been busy on here!

    @fatmaninabox    I Predict a Riot, hilarious!
    @serahni  Wow, some very intense selections. Definitely some melodious storytelling going on. Thanks for sharing them! (And I smiled to hear the Maroon 5 song, which is currently on my son’s playlist, which he regularly tests me on to see if I have learned all the artists and song titles. I did have to explain to him the “Jagger” reference, though!)
    @scaryb   That Wild Man Fischer is well out there, hilarious stuff. And I always did get a kick out of that Arthur Brown song.
    @whisht  Okay, this one definitely wins the bonkers grammy. That was exhausting just to listen to! I’m not surprised it made you grin, I was giggling away.
    And @fatmaninabox, that Peters and Lee clip just made me smile. Some things are just so charmingly of their time, how can you not?  🙂

     

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    @whisht   I completely understood you! I did say that I once aspired to play in a blues band.  🙂  Somewhere I have a photo of myself in a fedora, with one of those metal rigs attached to myself to hold the harp in front of my face, behind a pair of keyboard instruments, looking every bit as ridiculous as @purofilion’s description of her Devo look!

    And I must say, your description of the YT comments regarding Chopin is hilarious. Performance practice can be a real sore point amongst classical musicians, and it has been known to get ugly!

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    @whisht

    That is exactly where I learned how to do it and it made perfect sense to me. It worked perfectly on my first try. Although I did have two windows open, one with the instructions and one with the page where I was trying to post, so that I could literally follow the instructions step by step!   🙂

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    @whisht     Ha, yes, I used to desire strongly to be a harp player as well. I had a bit of the soul, but never the chops. Ah, well, I also wish I could play the fiddle. Those two Beefheart links are definitely more accessible than some!

    @purofilion    Yes, what Whisht said! You bring loads to the conversation.I’m older than you and I passed at least a ten year period where I had completely given up on music non-classical, so I do have a massive gap in my pop music knowledge. And of course, what was huge in one part of the world was sometimes unheard of in another.

    By the way, I meant to say, if you go to the link you want to share and copy the URL field, then paste it into the text box, it will embed your link with your comment. You just have to make sure and put the URL on its own line, with space between it and the text above. Try it, it’s fun!  🙂 That said, I have no idea how Whisht does the cool thing with making the link look like part of a sentence.   😕

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    @whisht    Yes, Trout Mask Replica, bonkers indeed. I don’t own it but I was lent it years ago, and listened to the whole thing at that time. I vaguely remember liking some of it but feeling that the whole of it was quite, quite mad. But possibly I would understand it better now, as I have a much wider taste than I did back then!

    @purofilion   Puro, do I understand correctly? Did you study with Bela Fleck? Goodness, how cool is that? We have only one recording (an amazing and haunting recording of various classical pieces) but I was lucky to have seen him with Abigail Washburn at the folk festival here a few years back. Such a brilliant musician.

    Oh, I remember Devo! They were a little outside my area at the time, I wanted to be a blues musician! 🙂 Captain Beefheart (aka Don Van Vliet) was a rather strange alt-rock kind of musician in the seventies, very challenging stuff, and vaguely nuts (although I didn’t know the details that @whisht mentioned about that recording). Now, moshing, I think that involves jumping around on the floor in front of the stage at a rock concert, creating general mayhem and piles of bodies. This post dates my attendance at rock concerts, but I had to explain it to the 14-year old, when I bought him tickets to Imagine Dragons that are boringly up in the stands and not down in the general seating area! He was not impressed, but I had to say, “No way. Not until you’re a legal adult and out of my control, sorry!”  🙂

    Oh my goodness, school starting. Do you have to make lunches, or does he buy them, or (possibly, in a more sensible household than mine) does he make his own? I find the lunch making thing challenging, because prior to high school he often came home, as we live just a few blocks from the school. But we have kind of settled into a system now, and I’ve figured out what to give him that he will eat and will sort of fill him up. There is a caf where he could go, but then he would waste half of his meagre lunch break standing in line. And I am, as he often tells me, a great mom.  🙂

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    @whisht  And you didn’t think a “bonkers music” thread was going anywhere?  🙂  I hadn’t heard of “psychobilly” but it’s brilliant! I also loved the Amestoy Trio link, I adore that kind of world/fusion sort of thing.

    And good catch on the Capaldi/Ferguson band. I’d seen mention of that on a clip I watched of Capaldi on Ferguson’s show, but I’d completely forgotten it. I’d say it qualifies as both Who-related and bonkers!

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    @purofilion   I have no idea, but isn’t it great?   🙂

     

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    @purofilion   @whisht   Moving this to the Pub as I’m sure that’s really the appropriate place for all this sports and etiquette chat!  It is true that, as with the internet, sports just brings out the worst in some people. We see it here in ice hockey, a sport that I grew up with but have largely abandoned due to the goon show that it has become, and the beyond idiotic behaviour of many of the fans. It seems like internet forums are too often a place for people to bring their attitudes when there isn’t a match on. As you so rightly say, thank goodness for the DWF!

    Puro, congrats on the cricket win. That’s a game that still confuses me, although I have a sort of idea of how it works. It’s not mainstream in Canada, although it does get played. There was a big playing field we used to walk past, when we lived in a different neighbourhood, where we would see them at it on the weekends. We were always strangely fascinated, because we didn’t really know what they were doing!

    As for my son’s soccer team, they do all right. They are nice boys with a fair amount of skill but less ability to stand up to the more physical teams. We didn’t mind yesterday’s loss so much, because it was to a really good team that simply outplayed us, as opposed to out-hitting us! And since that is the only team outside the city, most of the games are played at far less photogenic parks (and in way worse weather, in this case), so we all enjoyed that!

     

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    Seen this morning on the BBC website. They really shouldn’t tease me like this, I want one of these!

    http://bbcradio3.tumblr.com/post/49084800516/first-drafts-for-our-new-line-of-notre-dame-school

    @purofilion   Ha. Hilariously, my son and his friends all call each other “dude”, as in someone says something dumb, and the response is “Dude. Seriously?” They all sound like Owen Wilson.

    @wolfweed   Good grief! That was definitely good for some Sunday morning hysterical laughter! Too bad he’s not wearing the red sneakers though, those were my faves.  🙂

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    @whisht @purofilion   Urban Dictionary is definitely my friend. At my age, I just can’t be expected to know what anything means, but I hate sounding ignorant in front of my teenager!

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