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@Purofilion I have to confess I don’t know Anthony Green. Unlike @mudlark I tend to spend election nights hiding from the news until the results are announced to avoid the bitter disappointment. Back in 2007 we spent the evening at the Sister in law’s, after handing out “how to votes” all afternoon, and managed to forget entirely about the election until getting home. I sent my partner into the house and waited on the backdoor step because back then the TV was harder to hide from. He came out with the news and I suspect the entire neighbourhood heard my reaction. We packed the boys into the car and headed straight down to the electorate election night party. I have not been to one since.

I am glad that your first election was such a joyous occasion @mudlark. The first time I voted, at the Dublin consulate, was also a landslide victory for the ALP and the Irish was remarkably interested in Australia’s new PM though mostly, I suspect, because of a beer drinking feat in his Oxford days.

Cheers

Janette

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Happy Birthday @arbutus. I hope it is the beginning of a good year for you and for Canada. I heard about the Alberta win but did not know how significant it was. Thanks for putting that into context. Nice to hear something positive is happening somewhere in the world.

I really appreciate compulsory voting though the right would love to ditch it. I also appreciate that elections in Oz are held on Saturday. I was shocked when I first learned that in the U.K they are held on a week day. Surely that is a deliberate disincentive for working people. Bosses may not legally be able to prevent workers voting but laws are made to be broken by those with vested interests in doing so. I can imagine how that would have worked out in my last workplace. “yes you can go and vote but next week when you come in for shifts they will all be taken.”

Likewise there are massive benefits to the preferential voting system. Voters can register their  disappointment in the major parties by voting for one of the smaller parties while not wasting a vote. I often vote Greens rather than Labor. As long as Labor are before Liberal my vote will end up with Labor but if they win on preferences they know the electorate is not happy with them. As my partner often says it is not about who you are voting for but whom you are voting against, which is a sad reflection of both major parties.

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Janette

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Thanks @Purofilion I am proud of him. I don’t think his “communism” had much in common with either USSR or North Korea, which arguable are not communist in the true sense, if anyone even knows what the word means any more it has been so abused. His principled stance did make life difficult for his family during the depression though none of his children begrudged that.

I was in Ireland when “the silver budgie” won. It was my first time voting and I had made the effort to do so. Back then expats could vote at consulates. I was so excited when the ALP swept into power. Oddly enough I was in Europe some years later when he was toppled by Keating. I was at Uni when HECS was introduced and felt completely sold out. I would have to disagree with you though re’ Gillard though. I think any teeth sinking was from the other side, and that entire affair was fueled my media. (I was not a fan of Rudd.)

We are not apathetic. We have to keep up the good fight. 🙂 I will also look for the book you mentioned above. Sounds interesting.

cheers

Janette.

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Really interesting posts. Enjoyed reading your views and personal histories @phaseshift, @mudlark and @Purofilion. Oh how I hate that post election feeling of betrayal and despair after which we sink into a kind of stoic apathy. I do wonder if democracy is now dead, because those, whose privilege it was supposed to undermine have now learned how to manipulate the voting body to ensure the maintenance of their positions. Once again the mass of society are at the mercy of the small minority who pull the strings. The vote has become a mere placebo, giving the masses the illusion of power when it reality Murdoch and cronies are the ones making the choices. When I was a student I recall watching a documentary, probably on 4 corners, which drew the correlation between Murdoch support and election results. That must have been in the region of thirty years ago. Nothing appears to have changed.

Puro, like many fourth gen’ Aussies I have mixed heritage. My parents were conservative, aspirational types but both were from working class backgrounds and my two aunts were proud Labor voters. (They were horrified by my mother’s support for Menzies) Their father, a bricklayer, was a professed Communist/atheist. He suffered all his working life because of his political views. He was blacklisted as a trade unionist but he never compromised and though my mother did not agree with his views she was proud of his integrity. His father was a socialist and I have inherited some of his letters, not to mention his political DNA. On meeting the extended family I do suspect that political leanings are hereditary.

@mudlark Last year on the train down to an anti Abbot demonstration we met an elderly lady who had never been to a demonstration before. She had a megaphone on her lap and such a spirit of determination in her eyes. I am not convinced that people become more conservative as they get older. My mother in law changed her political allegiance in the time I knew her. (Maybe in part due to our influence but mostly I think because she began to take notice of what was happening and break free of childhood “conditioning”.) We have two 90 year old friends, who are both staunchly radical. One is still a proud Fabian.

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Janette

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@purofilion that is indeed perhaps the most random post I have ever encountered on this or any forum. I certainly wouldn’t be clicking on that link and advise everybody else not to. I am certain that one of our good mods will delete when they are next back on board.

Sorry to see Ed resign. He seemed genuine if not a fire brand. @ichabod interesting post. The right wing press fuel paranoia, xenophobia etc. They follow developments in behavioral research too and know how to utilise the findings. (Using that word “they” again. By “they” I am thinking Murdoch and ilk). They recognise that people will vote against their own self interests for the “greater good” and so now play to that instinct. That is how they are selling austerity. This was very evident during the Labor years here. The “stimulus package”, ie handing the electorate money did not win the government votes. Giving people money proved to be an unpopular move, no doubt aided by the press which were pushing the “Friedman/Thatcherist” economic line. Also the fact that we coasted through the economic crash at least in part due to the application of Keynesian economics appeared to go mostly unnoticed. The result is that as @fatmaninabox observed earlier, poor people vote for rich people to make them poorer. They knowingly vote against their own self interest in the, (misguided) belief that they are voting for a greater good.

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Janette

 

 

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The news is getting even more depressing. Worst thing is that it looks like the Cons have a clear majority, no one to apply any brakes.

@fatmaninabox Why is it only the poor that vote against self interest? It was the same here last election and I suspect the same former Australian is at least partly to blame.

Cheers

From a not so cheery Janette

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Equally as annoyed as @purofilion. Just felt depressed when I saw the headlines. What is wrong with the world?

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Janette

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Good luck all Brits. I am watching with interest and fingers and toes crossed.

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Janette

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If anyone is familiar  with the novel, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, you will be pleased to know that the BBC adaptation begins on Sunday 17th. (It will probably be shown in the U.S at the same or about the same time.) It has been a ten year wait for this so I am very, very excited about it. The trailers look fantastic. I think it is going to be a real treat and help pass the time until August.

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Janette

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This episode lets this story down. It screams “low budget” to me. The use of Hollywood tropes for me at least is too earth. I know the master has spent a lot of time in Earth but if the Matrix was generated by Goth the very earth like nature of the images contained within the Matrix make little sense unless Gallifrey has a Hollywood too. I don’t think too much thought had gone into giving Gallifreyan exteriors a unique look at this stage, something that was admittedly far harder to achieve without CGI I always felt that too little thought went into the concept of Gallifrey as a world in BG Who. There was even a marked lack of character consistency between Gallifrey based stories.

I was amused by how casually Borusa shoots the guard at the end. Justice appears to be of little concern where the lessor orders are involved.

The ending is certainly disturbing but then, most episodes endings were, despite being comfortably assured that all will be well within two minutes of the next episode. The question is always, “how will he survive this time?”

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Janette

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I found out yesterday that Matt Smith, Karen Gillan and Alex Kingston are visiting Australia this month. They are even dropping by Adelaide!!! An acquaintance of mine is going to be interviewing them for her blog site. The ticket prices are rather frightening sadly. More info here, http://thehubproductions.com/events/whoniverse (hopefully)

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Janette

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We will manage @craig. I hope this isn’t becoming a financial burden for you. If that situation does arise please let us know. We all get so much out of this site, I would be happy to contribute a little and I am certain others would too.

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Janette

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@guardup The summer camps look interesting and above all fun. Our boys would have loved that concept. Keep up the good work.

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Janette.

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I tried to think of a Who monster equivalent for our lame “leader” but I don’t think Who BG or AG has yet conceived any monster that horrific. Utterly evil, narcissistic and completely stupid doesn’t really work to well in fiction. The “monsters usually require some intelligence otherwise they are not a threat.

As for Ed I was going to suggest something likely to be controlled or at least manipulated so Ood works. Let’s hope that Ed can keep hold of his brain.

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Janette

 

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@gamergirlavatar I think Torchwood news counts. 🙂 I wonder who will be scripting.

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Janette

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@lisa and @ichabod I don’t think a direct Missy link was intended but the story was a precursor to the Missy story. Anabel returning from the dead establishes the idea that the dead can return, that they can be stored somewhere, their consciousness preserved and downloaded again. Assuming that is what happened to the sister. We cannot be entirely sure. The explanation for her reappearance is left to the viewer.

@bluesqueakpip I like your proposed explanations for the return of the boy and I am certain that the parents would be overjoyed to have their son back, regardless of whether he had aged or not.

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Janette

 

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@ichabod I agree absolutely that Danny’s story is complete and the character is unlikely to be revived and nor do I wish it. However there are still questions about Danny that require resolution and there is still Orson to be explained. There are some interesting narrative possibilities involving the toy soldier that do not require Danny to be resurrected.

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Janette

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That line of thought has just provided me with yet another explanation of how Danny get’s hold of “Dan the Soldier” man, through Missy who stole it from the Doctor when they were children back on Gallifrey. Still can’t work out how the toy gets from Danny to Orson… If if Clara were pregnant which she almost certainly isn’t, I doubt very much that she would inherit anything from Danny’s estate.

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Janette

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I was thinking through last series that cloning was going to be important to the arc in some way as there were quite a few references to cloning and that would explain the Danny/Orson riddle, which events in Death in Heaven leaves crying out for a solution.

My thoerising, when i have time for it, centres around “Dan the Soldier man.”  I have even tried drawing “maps” of his movements and trying to create a timey wimey circular paradox for him. I have found plenty of ways of getting from the Doctor’s toy box to Danny or Orson but the missing link is how he gets from Danny to Orson. Everything indicates that Danny has no family. I get the impression that he was a very solitary, lonely person with no real “life” outside his job. He is like a clockwork character who only comes to life for the purposes of the story, like a clone that has one function. If Clara was set up by MIssy to be the Doctor’s companion was Danny created by Missy to be Clara’s lover then killed by Missy. That car did apparently “come out of nowhere”.  @ichabod had complained that Danny was undeveloped as a character but I have a feeling that might have been deliberate and has yet to be explained. (at least I hope so.)

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Janette

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Finally caught up with this episode. I thought it well paced, with notes of Monty Python and Children of the Stones both of which came later of course.

After all my speculation regarding Osgood’s name it is rather humbling to find out that she is simply the offspring or relative of a former UNIT scientist. She even inherited the glasses. I was clearly deficient in Who lore, something that Moffat can very definitely not be accused of.

Jo and Yates take Dr Who hide skill to a whole new level, though maybe they were obscured by the lighting.

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Janette

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Another April Doctor. David Tennant’s birthday is the 18th. As I keep saying April is the best month.

@jgstevens Welcome. I began watching in the late 70s when Tom Baker was Doctor as well.

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Janette

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@jimthefish and @ichabod I think the Time Lords were based upon a certain breed of old school European politician. They are clearly a ruling elite who live too long. I think there is a lot of interesting potential backstory that has never been tapped and just because the 70s depiction of the T.Ls was absurd does not mean that any AG depiction might be similarly so, though End of Time, (which like Matt Smith I have compartmentalised in order to forget), does tend to prove me wrong on this. Still Time Lords are only, albeit powerful, faction in Gallifreyan society, the top 2% maybe.

I would like to see a little more of Gallifreyan culture and history, mostly only in order to further expand the Dr Who universe which since AG Who has been mostly limited to earth or future earth colonies. Just as having recurring characters on earth adds depth to the story so would having not simple recurring aliens but alien cultures and political entities which are encountered maybe once a series. Dr Who’s strength is and I suspect always will be, on simple arcs and good stand alone stories. It does not preclude however having complex, recurring threats.

As I have been “lurking” and not posting of late a few things to catch up on. I am happy with whatever others choose as the next story. All early Baker’s are worth another re-watch, and I still have two episodes to watch of The Deamons. I always remember after I have finished my tv viewing for the day.

I have been following the discussions too with great interest. It is such discussion on a diverse range of topics that makes for a truly great forum.

Welcome to new members and welcome back @spider. I am not a Got fan but my two elder sons are so I take an interest.

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Janette

 

 

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@jimthefish I agree absolutely with you on the merits of a rounded education rather than the binary arts or sciences that schools and universities push. My two eldest boys have both tried to do a mix of subjects, Maths, Computing, Drama and English rather to the despair of their school. As they both want to be actors I have encouraged them to do some sciences as well so they are employable. (Unlike their Arts Graduate Mum.) I get the impression that there is a lot less work in Oz for Humanities grads. A lot of the scientists I meet could do with a little grounding in Humanities as well and a lot of the “Human Science” students could do with some exposure to both Arts and Sciences.

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Janette

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@Purofilion Sorry I didn’t notice your question earlier re’ Broadchurch. I haven’t watched it but am considering trying Fortitude if only for the location.

@ichabod Hopefully there is some good television coming your way soon to help ease the long wait until August brings our favourite Doctor back. There is a series premiering, (will be on BBC America) in about a month’s time that I have high expectations of.

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Janette

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@purofilion and @jimthefish. Fingers crossed this excuse for a government is too ineffective to get their sell off of Australian education bill through. Hate, hate, hate this government and what they are trying to do to this country.

I was at Uni when HECS was introduced and one of those evil, placard waving students and to make it worse HECS was brought in by a Labor government.. We felt completely sold out.

“Jim” I read part of that article but got too angry to finish it. The value of a Humanities education is that it fosters the capacity to think, to question, to evaluate information and it nurtures the imagination. All these are vital to a healthy society. Science is also under attack, certainly here anyway. When I started at Uni there was a lake between Humanities and Sciences and that symbolised the antagonism between the two “Schools”. By the time I finished Uni there was a shared sense of truce across the lake because the real enemy was the Economics/Accounting, Human sciences department up the hill.

Onto Daniel Craig, I have not seen him as Bond but last week was helping Yr 12 son write an essay comparing Goldfinger to Skyfall which gave me a bit of an insight. At the same time I was rewatching Our Friends in the North. If Craig is emotionless as Bond it is choice not due to poor acting. There was no lack of emotion in his portrayal of the doomed character, Geordie.

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Janette

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@Purofilion. I hadn’t noticed the Who rerun on ABC. I don’t watch TV at night. That is usually when I am working or supposed to be.

Five months to go!!! I guess they are filming now. I am surprised by the lack of news leaking out or maybe that is because we don’t have @wolfweed here these days to keep us up to date. I hope he returns soon.

@jimthefish and @whohar. I am a war behind you two. I am currently working on a WWI story. Mine focuses very much on the experiences of women and the German settlers of the region. I have been reading copies of the local paper from 1914 which is a kind of time travel in itself.

Cheers

Janette

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@purofilion the week has ended well. Son did get to his excursion yesterday though rather late. Now to get him to do his homework…

@lisa Yes I loved Hugo. Have watched it several times. The book is beautiful too which reminds me I have promised my youngest son a copy. Might be an idea for his upcoming birthday. A few years ago there was a BBC documentary about automata, Mechanical Marvels; Clockwork Dreams which is well worth watching if you can get hold of it.

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Janette

 

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@fatmaninabox Another thank you for the birthday goodies. I had forgotten that this weekend was the tenth anniversary.

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Janette

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@lisa my SO will love those photos of Cthulhu in the tea cup. (Also love the early Melies films. A horse drawn carriage would be fine as long as it was bigger on the inside. Not sure that getting through space would be so good for the horses though.)

I had a really s**t morning this morning. The power went down in the night and so the alarm didn’t go off. Yr 12 son had an important excursion and had to be early. I woke up way too late. Anyway rang school, got them to contact the teacher and put him on the train in the hope that he would find the class in the city. Dropped youngest to school only about 90 minutes late. Was waiting at the traffic lights, feeling rinsed when a car passed me in a tun lane with BAD WOLF on the back window. Not really expecting it to be Who related I then noticed the “family stickers on the other side of the rear window. It was just lucky the lights did not change at that moment. The family stickers began with the Tardis, I think there was a Doctor, there were definitely dakeks and I think the “family” ended with K.9 Annoyingly the car was in the other lane and I did not have a good angle of view but needless to say, I was immensely cheered.

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Janette

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@ichabod I am in agreement with you re’ GoT. I want to like it but the overriding view of humanity that it projects really annoys me. My eldest son is counting down the days till the next series and I do follow what happens with some degree of interest but it is one of those series where I would prefer to read the episode by episode blog on the Guardian than watch it.

I am eagerly awaiting the BBC adaptation of Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell. Have you read that novel? It is one of my favourites.

urgh. Veering dangerously off topic here. Trying to think of a GoT Who reference but failing. (Other than the obvious Jenna Coleman and Richard Maddern one though apparently he is a Who fan and has taken selfies in front of the TArdis. Aww sweet. See what trivia a quick google search reveals.)

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Janette

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Just read that article @whisht I share your sentiments. I pretty sure I read somewhere that Iannucci had expressed an interest in writing a Who script for Peter Capaldi.

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Janette

 

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@jc9807 Now there is a good bonkers theory. I will raise my metaphorical hat to you.

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Janette

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@craig,

The rest of the world laughs at him. You should see the coverage he gets. That would be a good start.

Oh we know the coverage our great idiot gets world wide, or as I sometime refer to him, “our great embarrassment”.  Don’t get us started though please. This is one of the places I come when I need to forget that I live in a country ruled by idiots. Where is the Doctor to whisper those three words when he is really desperately needed.

All the interesting conversation happen when I am asleep. @mudlark, On thinking recently of “the matter of Britain” it struck me that the Arthur stories were taken up by the Normans to legitimise their rule over the Saxons. They portray themselves as the true successors to Arthur justifying their conquest and displacement of the Saxons, window dressing a shameless land grab.

Stories are our way of making sense of everything, they are the threads by which we connect random experience.

@ichabod and @arbutus when talking of the Trickster hero Monkey came to mind. There was a long running, Japanese I think, animation of Monkey which was dubbed into English, which was shown immediately before Dr Who when I was a teen. I think the dubbing might have been done in Australia. I have a great fondness for the Monkey stories and Monkey as a character.

@lisa watching the Deamons reminds me of just how much Dr Who drew on the earlier Quartermass series. We did have a Quatermass discussion some time ago way way back in the archives somewhere, no doubt very dusty now.

Cheers

Janette

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@purofilion I agree that Listen was great. One of my all time favourite episodes. I have watched it about five time already. I like not knowing if “thingie” is a monster or just a pranking kid. One of the many things I love about Moffat’s writing is that he leaves things open. Not all mysteries must be solved.

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Janette

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@craig. As soon as you mentioned Joseph Campbell I thought of Star Wars. From what I have been told the resounding success of those first three films was down to their repackaging of that original story as defined by Joseph Campbell. Apparently he and Lucas were friends.

The abiding popularity of those films really confirms Campbell’s theory. Hero with a Thousand Faces is unfortunately another of those on my “must read” list; a list I am going to need at least two more regenerations to get through. Ah the benefits of being  time lord. One assumes that the Doctor might actually be able to read all those books that now line the console room walls, whereas the rest of us poor humans would probably get through one shelf in a lifetime.

Cheers

Janette.

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@mudlark and @ichabod I used to also fear something under the bed as a result of a something I watched on TV when I was quite young. As I recall I was getting over that when I saw something else that frightened me even more and as a result I slept with my head under the covers for about two years. I think it might have been Dr Who but I have yet to identify the episode. It would have most likely been a Troughton story, one of the missing ones.

I am still uncertain as to what the thingie under the blanket was. I think the reason the Doctor asked them to turn their backs to it rather than just close their eyes was to indicate to “thingie” that it was safe and they weren’t looking. Just shutting their eyes would not have been a reassuring. Whether it was a kid or a monster “thingie” appeared to be just as scared as they were, if not more so.

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Janette

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@ichabod I was thinking that the Doctor has an element of King Arthur and that is the undying hero who returns in the hour of need. I probably expressed that poorly. Like Robin Hood though he is an anti authority figure. The characterisation takes elements of both mythic archetypes but is something generated out of the twentieth century reflecting more modern anxieties and ideals.

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Janette

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It seemed to be bit of a story stretcher episode. Lot of “something big is happening” music without much actually appearing to happen other than Jo Grant screaming. It wasn’t her finest moment when the Doctor was stricken down. Despite those criticisms I really enjoyed the episode and found it very hard to resist the temptation to watch the next. I do like the slow pace at which the story unfolds.

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Janette.

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Urgh @lisa you have done it to me again. I can waste hours on that FBDr Who Hub page. I have done so and concluded that there are infinite images.

In a way those images reflect something of what @ichabod was saying about the generating of the Doctor as a mythic figure. I think that status was established by the old series but has come to maturity, along with many of the original fans, with AGWho. The story utilised some of the basis elements of myths, the larger than life hero, set apart from us, mere mortals who returns, time and time again to save us. He is a mix of King Arthur and Robin Hood. He will pull the sword from the stone to save us, though it will be an allegorical sword, but he will never be an authority figure. He will be the outlaw, chaotic good. (The family have been playing D&D of late.) Just as the King Arthur myth and Robin Hood myth resonated because they expressed an imaginative need for the time so Dr Who now fills that need. Perhaps it is because in ages of uncertainty we need a mythic hero to give us hope.

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Janette

 

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@purofilion A proper Irish coffee has about two centimetres of pouring cream floating on top. The coffee has to be quite hot and very sweet to support the cream which is poured in over the back of a spoon. I threw away a lot of coffees before I got it right. Luckily I had a tolerant boss at the time especially when it was something like Tia Maria in the coffee as opposed to the cheapest whiskey or brandy possible. (The theory was that once mixed with coffee, sugar and cream the quality of the base spirit didn’t really matter.)

Your childhood memories of picnics at wineries sound just like our sons’ memories. Only now they are older they usually opt to stay home and play computer games while we “quaff”.

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Janette

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@ichabod I live a hop and step from one of Australia’s premier wine growing regions so we are rather blessed with good, affordable wines. I was not a wine drinker until I moved to SA but here one has no choice. We have a favourite winery just up the road, expensive but not out of the range of the average quaffer. Their Alicante is about $18.00 a bottle. We buy three bottles of sparkling shiraz most years, one for Christmas and one for birthdays. We have not been there for a while but have friends coming to stay Easter week and a visit to the winery followed by a picnic in the vines is a definite. (We know it is the winery they are really driving all this way for..)

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Janette

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Hi. quick wave to @all. I have mostly lurking of late, too busy to post but really enjoying all the wonderful discussions as always. Last night I sent off the first order for festival brochures so hopefully I can have a bit of a breather now.

@prurofilion I believe the Doctor’s alcoholic bevvy of choice, like @ichabod is red wine. PertweeDoc certainly enjoyed a good red. He waxes lyrical about the wine and Gorgonzola in Day of the Daleks I think EcclesDoc did sip the wine the night he had dinner with the Slytheen woman though SmithDoc did not seem so impressed with the red on offer at the picnic by Lake Silencio.

Surely CapDoc’s bevvy of choice would have to be whiskey??

I prefer red to white wine though in summer I tend to drink either sparkling Shiraz, or a Rose, preferably a Rockford’s Alicante. S.A really does good Rose and Sparkling reds, probably because of our long, dry summers.

The other day the Guardian had a guide to making the perfect Irish coffee. I was very pleased because it proved that the technique I was taught in the U.K. was correct. I now really want to make an Irish coffee though oddly enough not to drink. I never actually liked drinking them because I don’t like sweet coffee or cream. However Puro’s talk of Tardis themed cocktails might inspire me to try a Tardis themed liqueur coffee. Would blue curacao work in Coffee? I will have to ponder that. Still a few months to go until the next series, which we will celebrate with a Dr Who party, having now established that as one of our household traditions.

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Janette

 

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@lisa Nice to know that you are a fellow Hardy fan. I love his novels but I do have to make a slight correction. It was Far From the Madding Crowd (of which a new film is imminent) where the Valentine Card sets in motion a Hardyesque chain of events leading to tragedy. In Tess the trigger for the chain of events is her father’s discovery of the family heritage or arguably the accident which results in the death of the family horse.

I like you Orlando?Missy link.

Perhaps the Doctor and Master were both outcast types as children, neither conforming to the expectations of Time Lord society. I get the impression that both were born into Gallifryean aristocracy and both were unable to live up to expectations though for very different reasons I suspect. Still being “disappointments” would have thrown them together as children, the two misfits, one because he could not conform to discipline and was too hyper to concentrate on lessons the other because he was too busy pulling the wings off flys and found the work so easy he couldn’t be bothered with it.

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Janette

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@barbaralefty Thank you I raise a glass in return to you and @all for being such a wonderful community. I love all the discussions happening though I have not had much time to participate of late. Busy with organising the program for the writers festival.

@lisa I love that tardigrade, (water bear) photo. I put prints of it on the boys’ science books. I agree with @bluesqueakpip They are very cute.

Autumn is making itself felt now with cold nights, lovely mild days, blue sky and soft breezes. Autumn and Spring are the best times of year in South Australia. Summers are too hot, winters far too cold. I would just like it to rain occasionally but I fear the predicted El Nino has taken effect..

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Janette

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@bluesqueakpip I must have been about fifteen when I watched it and yes it was quite scary. Watched it recently and it stands up well to the test of time as does Omega Factor.

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Janette

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@ichabod

 skinny guy, all nerves and huge eyes sparky with intellect.

That sounds remarkably like CapDoc to me.

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Janette

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@jimthefish The Who stories drawing upon Britain’s pagan past are some of my favourites. I would like AG Who to re-vist some of that territory. There is so much to draw upon. This story also reminds me of another favourite TV series from the late 70 or early 80s which you might recall as it was made by BBC Scotland; The Omega Factor. It starred Louise Jameson post Leela. We watched it again recently. There was also from the same period Children of the Stones set in Avebury aimed at a younger audience.

@mudlark enjoyed reading your reaction to the “archaeology” on display. I doubt much in the way of actual research was done but then I guess the budget in those days didn’t allow for it and few people outside the profession knew anything about the subject. So much harder to get away with inaccuracies now.

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Janette

 

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@ichabod  I think Twelve’s chips suggestion was him trying to be “normal” and failing abysmally. Chips and coffee sounds even worse than fish fingers and custard to me. I note that when he does turn up he only has the coffee.  I think food is  a little beneath his notice, too basic and human. If he eats, assuming that time lords do require sustenance then he grabs something on the go, a sandwich. I had forgotten but did have a half squashed manky sandwich in his pocket in Robot of Sherwood, something he had bought at a street stall no doubt and forgotten about.

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Janette

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@whohar welcome back. Nice to hear from you again. RL can be annoying can’t it. It keeps getting in the way of the important things, like Who.

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Janette

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I had written a long post about food in Who then accidentally deleted it. Oh well. Little food features in BG Who beyond the Pertwee years. One of Jo’s major roles appeared to be to serve sandwiches and tea to all and sundry. Earlier Barbara made it clear that she did not consider cooking was her role. Pertwee Doc also expresses a fondness for Gorgonzola and red wine. Merlot? I have forgotten the details. Tom Baker appeared to live entirely on jelly babies. I don’t think any food features until AG Who and Rose with the Chips, at one time the alternative to travel with the Doctor. “Eat chips”. Tennant, Martha and Captain Jack enjoy a feast of chips. Um healthy diet, not. Smith Doc lives on jammy dodgers and fish fingers and custard. Clara attempts to make souffle. CapDoc drinks coffee at last but has added nothing more to the Who party menu thus far.

@bluesqueakpip I am quite sure that Rose is to blame for the chips.

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Janette

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