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8 November 2020 at 18:46 #71098
Hope everyone on the forum is staying safe and happy. Now whether the USA will remain
a safe and happy place seems to have been voted on for now. Of course the orange covidiot is
threatening to take several states to court. I’m very proud we eked it out but we still have to
take the Georgia Senate seats otherwise there’s still gridlock.
I’ve been still watching Brexit. Biden doesn’t want the disruption. He’s all about building
bridges and wants to promote that image. Biden sees Russia and China as the top threats. Plus
the UK will be easier to build a coalition with than confused Brussels. So Biden will interpret
Brexit as an important transition that matters ( assuming that strong security is probably a lot
more important than the trade aspects.) So its a safe assumption that Biden will try to extinguish
the Brexit fight.3 May 2020 at 18:51 #70584
The USA federal government is incompetent under this administration. So is China. So is the EU.
Big government has been much worse at reacting than all the smaller ones. The orange covidiot
has been at war with the Governors from day 1 of the pandemic. I listen ONLY to the Governors.
This is what happens when you put the interests of money before the interests of the people. Of course
this is my personal observation but I think when you have all these sorts of irresponsibility its as bad as
any pandemic! Makes it all so much worse. Personally I find that spending some chunks of time
remembering everything isn’t messed up is helpful. Especially nature! Nature has been benefitting a lot!
Stay safe everyone!18 March 2020 at 21:33 #7017118 March 2020 at 18:52 #70165
I’m worried. Not just because of the pandemic but also the economic collapse.
This might turn into a big reset on how the global banking situation works.
The pandemic can be used as a front to repair the huge toxic debt bubble that every country has.
The Federal reserve moves mean nothing now. There is a law in the states called the Nesara act.
It’s basically a financial reformation act which was passed during the Clinton years and never
implemented. Well it sure looks like this could be the opportunity now!
The orange idiot has already been dropping hints that he will. I feel like we are all living thru
a sci fi disaster flick. But when the national guard gets called out and all the debts start
getting cancelled, (some have already) then I have to think something is going on.
I just don’t trust the current government administration and that’s why I’m worried.
The pandemic is bad enough but I think its not the whole story. We really got 2 major
global problems that have come home to us. I’m taking both seriously.
Stay safe everyone !!5 March 2020 at 05:29 #70002
I’d rather that the Doctor was Tecteun and the Master was the Time less child she experimented on.
That might have been a better fit about the love/hate relationship they have.
Or even the Hybrid that destroyed Galifrey? That also could have worked well as the Master.
(Sorry about so many posts. I couldn’t arrange all my thinking in sync with the editing)5 March 2020 at 04:51 #70001
BTW I also won’t include 10 in that in spite of his use of the Chameleon Arch in Human Nature.
He did it to transform himself in this particular situation but left Martha there to protect him so
that he could return to himself with ALL his memories.
CC uses it now very differently with intentions that the Doctor I have always known
would revolt against. He implying that could be what led to the Doctor going renegade?
Maybe, but it still doesn’t feel fitting with any of these Doctors from new or old Who.
Because wiping out your memories permanently in the way its done in this episode
is both ‘cruel and cowardly’.5 March 2020 at 03:59 #70000
I’m a bit stuck on a few things. First, how do we know that the Master didn’t manipulate
what the Doctor saw inside the Matrix? Some thing about this isn’t right with me.
Was the Master pushing a new deception on the Doctor. Towards what purpose?
Because there’s always deception around the Master. Its his M.O.
There was never anything implied at least to me that connects the Doctor and the child
except that the Master says so.
Also I still don’t buy into the notion this Doctor allowed her mind to be redacted
by the Chameleon circuit so many times. This sticks out to me too. This is not the same
Doctor that would never confess in the Confession Dial. This is part of CC’s retcon and
I don’t see this path cause it doesn’t feel consistent with the character to me. CC is
implying that the Doctor evolved into this Doctor version but started out as some one quite
different. But since the show started I don’t think I’ve seen any one single Doctor
that would accept chameleon arching their entire mind.
I liked the fact that there was a story arc this season and it was good but not great
because it felt messy. I know this show has always had lots of loose ends
but I do feel like CC made this big retcon on the Doctor not for the audience or the
show’s legacy but instead for some narcissistic need to make the biggest boom.2 March 2020 at 16:31 #699402 March 2020 at 16:21 #69937
Just wondering about the message written on the back of the carriage clock.
It seemed a bit fuzzy but I think it said “for Soroloos to the Dioslon” but correct
me if I misread that !! So what can it mean?
A Sorol can be a forex transaction. Dioslon is a drug often used topically for skin conditions.
So ……. not that. Hm? That’s going to bug me!2 March 2020 at 06:31 #69919
Totally agree with you about the Hybrid. The Timelords tortured the CapDoc
over the Hybrid’s identity and as it turns out it was always themselves!2 March 2020 at 06:18 #69915
Well it does seem to me that CC has written an over complicated episode.
There’s a difference between good writing and rushed writing. This had both.
I got out of this that there is a Doctor era and a pre- Doctor ‘Division’ era ?
So Hartnell was the rogue Division agent that escaped but Ruth Doctor was another one?
The Doctor didn’t originate on Galifrey but her genetics were spliced into
some of the indigenous Galifreyans creating Time Lords. CC has had a Frankenstein fetish all season.
Doctor Frankenstein picking up a random kid and doing experiments to harvest her immortality.
Sneaking around a Cyber ship inside cyber shells is why I don’t want to be a Doctor companion.
I have mixed feelings about this episode. It had many inconsistencies.
Wondering if that lady that stood next to Rassilon in ‘The End of Time’ was Tecteun? Where could
she/he be now and could “the Other” be this same character?
I still liked it better when the Doctor wasn’t the chosen one and you got your regenerative
abilities from the time vortex. Maybe CC might have missed an opportunity with the
I noticed he even gave the new ‘Moment” end of the world annihilation machine a red
button for Ko to push. CC has taken the show to a darker place now.1 March 2020 at 04:02 #69900
Ok I’m just going to make my prediction that Brendon is inside a Matrix experiment.
This is why Dad and the other police guy aren’t aging (and of course why its in Ireland).
He keeps getting chameleon arched over and over to see how many times he can regenerate.
This is why he might be that original timeless child? Brendon is just a host in a Time Lord experiment
so that they can upgrade regenerative abilities. I think the Time Lords gave to Brendon the same
energy Rose gave Jack and were surprised when he fell from the cliff that this was working out!
So possibly where this is all going has to do with how Galifreyans are just an upgraded species
like the Cybermen with maybe even a bit of borrowed cyber tech as well? That might be the lie
which is giving the Master heart burn.
But I wont be too surprised if I have this all wrong.27 February 2020 at 22:43 #69885
I really hope its not Wizard of Oz or a simple Matrix program!
I’m sure there are many fans like me who would feel hoaxed and left
disappointed by being denied a real potential epic Galfreyan arc.27 February 2020 at 04:29 #69874
Also wondering if all these possible Time Lords running around on Earth
(or at least in Brenden’s little village) are all using perception filters then
maybe Ashad the lone Cyberman might have been one of those filtered Time Lords
and he got captured? This is why he couldn’t be completely converted.
Imagine if Ruth Doctor was captured by Cybermen while she’s still under the
influence of the perception filter then she couldn’t possibly get properly converted.
Are the Kasaavins Ahshad’s ascended Cybermen? His invincible army against
the Time Lords? His grudge doesn’t seem any less diminished from the Masters.27 February 2020 at 00:09 #69868
Are ‘all’ of Jacks kids human? Couldn’t one have been Hybrid? Maybe he had a fling with
another Time lord? Anything is possible in Doctor Who. He always did have a thing for the
Ko Sharma’s staff. How many of the Time Lords besides Rassilon carried one of those?
I like these mystery episodes that build on the Galifrey mythos too !26 February 2020 at 00:57 #69847
I’ve been thinking that clock has a Time Lord in it and its waiting for his immortal body.
It might be KO ? My hunch is that he’s another Time Lord using a perception filter like
the Ruth Doc. There was a resemblance between KO and old Brendon.
If you look with a magnifying glass at the screen shot of the clock it looks a bit like some one
is standing in a tiny window with a staff…. but my imagination is probably in over drive.
Why was KO the boundary gatekeeper? He was waiting for all the humans to go thru the boundary
just like Yana was waiting for them all to go to Utopia.. Seems strange.
I think Brendon might also actually be the Hybrid? The Time Lords were searching for the
Hybrid and tormented the 12th Doctor to find out who it was.
The fact that they brought Jack back makes me wonder if there will be a possible link to Brendon.
I would really like to see this turn into a multi season, Doctor, companion arc.24 February 2020 at 05:44 #69807
If Brendon is the proto-Doctor then this is like the ‘Highlander’ immortality concept and
if Brendon’s ginger hair isn’t a conclusive clue about this I shall be very disappointed!
Although he could become the Master? Or maybe even the lone Cyberman !
Can this be the secret of the Timelords that our unbalanced Master is taking great
offense about. The Toclafane with Cyber faces (the dark monster story originating from Galifrey).
I got a very Utopia vibe from this episode several times from the Cyber drones, the Earth
invasion, the time paradox, and the chameleon arch stuff.
So if Rose (Bad Wolf) created Jack and Jack did have kids (Torchwood) Brendon could have
inherited Jack’s (his father) immortality? Then in a timey wimey loop the Timelords swooped
in and created themselves an origin using this immortality gift. And we just saw Jack.
Can anyone read what was on the front of the clock face that Brendon got as a retirement gift?23 February 2020 at 19:44 #69794
Time is becoming all messed up because the Cybermen are changing it to benefit themselves.
This is also how we can have changes on Galifrey and the Ruth Doc and Master in current time.
The divergence does seem rather sudden. Did the Master destroying Galifrey have an
effect on these new differences too? Because he gives her the warning and then we have
episodes showing repercussions. All the upside down stuff began after the Master did that and
not before the cyberium incidence.
I still would like this Master to turn out to be Omega ‘O’ visiting from N space and Yaz is still
my pick for conversion but I hope your right.22 February 2020 at 19:01 #69783
Watched this with the kid again last night and does anyone know where the Kasaavins come from?
If they are they from N space then does that mean they are coming from the ‘negative’ side of
the same universe? Doesn’t that mean we are all on the ‘positive’ side of the same universe?
Didn’t the Cybermen also use N space a lot and is it possible that’s where the Ruth Doctor,
the Master and the Kasaavins all are ‘leaking’ thru? The Master said he was going by the
code name ‘O’ too. Wasn’t Omega the guy that made his home inside a version of N space land ?
So maybe in the N space land Omega and the Master are the same character?
No idea but I cant wait to find out ! Even Gat said this all didn’t seem right to her and
was very alarmed when she realized something has triggered some sort of temporal paradox.
Time has become messed up in the Whoverse?21 February 2020 at 17:51 #6977221 February 2020 at 03:29 #69767
I just had the hunch that when the Doctor spoke about not losing anyone else to the Cybermen
it was as if broadcasting that she will be losing some one to the Cyberman. I think Yaz
cause she seems to be the most reckless.
I’m considering that the secret of the Timeless child could be that all the Timelords
including the Doctor and Master originate from the same root.
That could make the Master feel more ‘out of sorts’ than he/she usually does and he/she
tossed a tantrum on Galifrey. But that’s probably too simplistic.
On the Ruth Doctor I’ve been thinking she came from the future to hide in the past from Galifrey
and since she is crossing the Jodie Doctors timeline where she shouldn’t be maybe she cant retain
memories of her. Like in the 50th anniversary episode “Day of the Doctor”.18 February 2020 at 03:03 #69723
At least one of these companions will turn into a cyberman before the end. Just like in Death in Heaven
and World Enough and Time.
I really get this impression that we are getting another whole sort of new origin story for Cybermen in
the way that there is now a new origin story Ruth Doctor and that they both are probably connected.
Quite honestly I’m also seeing Chibnall trying to make the Jodie Doctor become progressively
darker and harder for the companions to trust. So I won’t be surprised if one of them chooses to ignore
her and does something which will turn them into cybermen.31 January 2020 at 01:49 #69503
I really like that notion! Your correct that the ‘hybrid’ splinter of 10 was born of his hand
within the Tardis and exposed to its particular energy fields like River was as an embryo.
If all Time Lords have realized this is an additional way of procreating themselves then
possibly this could have something to do with the lie that the Master speaks of?
But also this could have something to do with the ‘timeless child’ concept of immortality?
I also wonder if the episode starting on her birthday is a clue?
You don’t need an entire Time Lord. You can take a piece of one and grow a duplicate version.
But to what purpose cause that reason chould be a part of the lie that is not making the Master
a happy bloke!28 January 2020 at 23:00 #69474
Maybe the Timelords were trying to minimize the damage of the Time War and save themselves
by splitting the ‘time line’ of this universe in the way Clara split herself into lots of versions to
save the Doctor? The Master found out that this is the lie? In which case the Master would
know that he wasn’t the only or even the original. His destruction of Galifrey was only
in his and Jodie Doctors particular time line. Then there could be several Doctors and Masters
floating around within the same time line. River called them ‘splinters’ along one timeline.
That would mean that Galifrey in the pocketverse was just one ‘splinter’ within the time line.
I’m not completely on board with pre Hartnell Doctors since he was the one that
we were all told originally stole the Tardis.
In any case, its nice to feel the fun of conjecturing about all of what’s going on again in the series.28 January 2020 at 18:08 #69456
Ok so if it’s not an alternate universe maybe its a ‘hybrid’ universe? That could possibly
account for all the loose ends and timey whimeyness?
Wondering if this Jo Doc is some sort of hybrid? You can have two types of hybrids
in the same time line.27 January 2020 at 23:04 #69424
I got the impression in previous episodes this season that Chibbs was hinting at multi verse stuff.
In Moffett’s version Timelords were at war with the Daleks and the 3 Doctors came together to
save Galifrey into the pocketverse.
Maybe now inside this alternate universe its the Timelords at war with the Cybermen instead?
The lone Cyberman? The one that escaped? Possibly like the lone Dalek ? Btw we also had
the three Doctors? Human Doc, Donna Doctor and real Doctor saving planets.
It seems we always need three.
I wonder if we get a third Doctor this season? I vote to bring back the curator 🙂 !
Also, in Moffett’s version the Earth has been visited by Cybermen and Daleks. Humans on Earth
(at least all those living in the UK ) knew about them. But these companions of the 13th Doctor
have never heard of them.8 January 2020 at 20:43 #68906
Yeah Ms. Fish ! My goodness. The purported fish was on the smart phone inside C’s office.
The Doctor contacted O for assistance on it and a picture of a fish was on the screen display..
Missy once told Clara she had a daughter. I forget which episode. But interestingly I read a
thing about Moffatt thinking up a cliff hanger end to his run of the show but it didn’t happen..
In it Missy tells the Doctor that she’s pregnant.8 January 2020 at 17:35 #68903
YES ! Lots of ‘child’ stuff and all of them weapons? Like the Moment?
The Moment was a sort of ‘interface’ . I supposed both the Master and Doctor are that too.
There were lots of devices created by the ancients of Galifrey to change outcomes
which is what both the Master and the Doctor do. They were also eyes to see through too.
Personally for me the Doctor is the Eye of Harmony and the Master is the Eye of Discord.
Or a virus, Empty child. A killing machine the Nightmare child.
Also the Unearthly child was the very first Hartnell episode.
So the Master is tossing a tantrum because he is being used by the Timelords who
keep manipulating him over and over and he cant do anything about it except destroy
the source of the manipulation?
Interestingly the Doctor has also sought Galifrey’s end to meddling in his/her lives from the
beginning when he stole a Tardis.8 January 2020 at 00:39 #68887
I wont extrapolate that the ‘timeless child’ is a child from what the Master showed the Doctor
in the ‘flash drive’. He’s thrown lots of red herrings at the Doctor countless times.
There is some child that’s part of this s but I would think that what we and the Doctor
were allowed to view could be at best a beginning clue to a new epic Timelord story.
Plus I had a thought that the fish picture might be a clue some how? Could that
picture of the little timelord kid morph into something different? I’m wondering
if that little fish story foreshadows something about the little time child picture? Maybe?7 January 2020 at 20:23 #68880
Well that got kinky when the Doctor kneeled to the Master! “Hands on head “! LMAO !
The Master was always a bit flirty! Would it be inappropriate to think they need to get a room?
In a way I think this Master has saved the show! I also think that as much as Moffett
tried to save the dark Master in his re write of the character Chibnall isn’t having any of that.
Still this Master did save these 2 episodes for me !!
Very disappointed that the light creatures aren’t the Cybermen. I prefer continuity of villains
to having new villains. This Master is definitely a quality villain. Plus I always enjoy
watching the Master and Doctor square off!
So based on the ending of this episode I anticipate more backstory about Timelord history.
When I think of what the ‘Timeless child’ could mean I think of an Ashidr.
But how could she have founded the Timelord civilization and could she have also been the ‘Other”?
Nah! Too easy.
I’m betting that we are all being manipulated into thinking that the timeless child is a child.
Anyway I’m happy for the return of a big story arc. Makes all the difference!
Didn’t think about the Unquiet Dead but yes! Very good !4 January 2020 at 23:11 #68812
Could it be Missy that has taken over the body of this O ? Cause if the Simms Master destroyed
her ability to regenerate did he also destroy Missy’s ability to take over a body. Didn’t that happen
in BG Who? I like the notion of ‘Army of Ghosts’ Cyberman being the light creatures! It fits into
a nice story arc if Chibnall goes there.
As @blenkinsopthebrave has pointed out that it makes all the difference to get an episode
where you can theorize on it all again !!! TBH didn’t expect it at all after last season.3 January 2020 at 03:50 #68775
Reminds me of the 3W idea in Dark Water — Time Lord technology nether sphere.
Neural networks. Galifreyan hard drives. Master’s projects.
Right down to a skeleton shape inside a glass box, ( the shrunken one inside Barton’s VOR office).
There were also lots of “O’s” plastered all over Barton’s office, surely a clue for something?
In Dark Water it turned out to be Cybermen symbology all around.
The tall silver sculpture is a bit like the light creature shape too.
When that one light creature seemed to use Barton’s computer as a portal and grabbed Yaz,
it called her an obstacle but then Yaz was popped out?
Certainly seemed like the creatures were having a tantrum when she was on the inside.
I like this mystery.
So I wiki’d a search about light creatures in past Doctor Who.
There are light creatures called “Aeroliths” that were held captive by the Master until the
7th Doctor freed them (in a comic book story). Then there is the ‘Eaters of Light’ episode
which were those light creatures that existed in swarms and the 12th Doctor pushed them
all back thru the portal in Roman’s era Scotland.
I also like returning themes!2 January 2020 at 21:38 #68765
Re-watched and I got the shrunken matchstick man in the box explanation. The Master did
that to the Doctor too in the past. His shrinking skills have improved.2 January 2020 at 19:52 #68764
I’m very particularly curious about all the V O R parts.
Is V virtual and can R be Reality? So then what does that make O ?
Also, the Doctor reached out to O so if she already knew him then its hard
to reconcile how to work thru when O was or wasn’t this Master. Guess he/she
stole another body recently.
I found this appealing and a good start mostly because I smell some possible beginnings
of a decent story arc.
Good to hear about all your news.
My tremendous sympathies to all the Australians going thru the horrible fires!!!17 December 2019 at 16:54 #68612
Hi – So where I am coming from is that you got a PM that has critical thinking skills in 4 languages
We have the orange idiot that is challenged in his native tongue. You have a guy who’s hero is Churchill.
We got a guy that never wants to read anything but yet astonishingly has read Mein Kamph and admires
Hitler! You got a guy that can write reasonably decent books. We got a guy that needs power points in
big felt tip markers. I’m just saying count your blessings. So what if he’s an intellectual snob… we got a
witless snob. This is an interesting insight into Boris
NYTimes 7/17/2019 Books Boris Johnson 72 Virgins
( a bit of trouble posting this, the picture keeps coming up )
So what if he has a lazy nature. He hired Cummings and some decent talent around him. Our clown
has hired lobbyists in the cabinet to run the gov’t. Rudy Giuliani anyone?
So what if he’s an opportunist? So was Churchill. So were some of our best Presidents. I have a lot better
expectations for yours than I do for mine!
@thane16 The kid goes to the ranch and hugs all the horses everyday and then picks 1 to exercise.
She’s a happy camper. How’s Thane?
Happy holidays everyone!17 December 2019 at 00:19 #68595
Ok I will definitely forward you post to Dr. Thomas about your differing view of the Australian model.16 December 2019 at 23:57 #68593
Yes it is fair to have opposing views and to try and attempt to understand them!
That was a huge issue for the leavers too for these past 3 years.
Right now I’d prefer to have a Boris than an orange grifting gangster idiot running my country!
Boris has an good and well educated intellect and we’re stuck with some one with spelling challenges.
Apologies but I didn’t realize that you couldn’t drop in and out if your not a regular.
I think there were many crumbs last season16 December 2019 at 23:05 #6859116 December 2019 at 21:26 #68585
Trade deals ? The EU is afraid that equalization will diminish its power in other trade alliances. They
want ‘harmonization’ aka a level playing field. The UK wants equalization. The rest of the world is moving
towards the equivalency system. Yes the trade deals will take some time but these 3 years that Parliament
has been stuck have given both sides the time to imagine ways to get in the ring and push thru something.
My sister from another mother that I’ve know for all of my life is an Oncologist in the Sheffield-Derby
area and she sends me lots of stuff about Brexit and I send her stuff about our slow rolling constitutional
crisis here. I mention that cause the NHS is her pet peeve and its why she was Brexiteer. She insists that
there is no party of the NHS. But spend, spend, spend isn’t the answer either.
She likes the Australian model. Australia has a trade deal with the USA which includes
provisions for medicines and devices and they haven’t seen any increases in pharma or devices spending.
She says that this same deal would have no effect on the NHS either. In fact the NHS wanted to get cancer
drugs and other special drugs from the USA but having to go thru the EU meant that it took forever. So she
wants local control back.
BTW, she was no great fan of Corbyn. She kept calling him ‘magic Grandpa” because of all the ‘free’
stuff. Just saying….. that’s a big reason why Boris got that majority.14 December 2019 at 20:05 #68552
Just popping in to say Congradts to all that wanted Brexit and sincere condolences to those that didn’t.
I have constantly wondered why you would want to stay in the EU from a economic standpoint given the
opportunity to leave. The EU was a growth economy for a long time but its hit a wall now plus Germany is
financially undermining many weaker economies.
Also the EU wants to go after the UK’s financial services and btw all those zombie banks. If they begin
to fall into crisis then the UK will be having to toss in a lot more to bail them out then if your leaving .
Maybe its my ignorance but then I never believed in collective socialism which seemed to me what the EU is.
Although I’ve also wondered about how democratic the EU really is if it isn’t electing any top officials?
The 4 freedoms seem to mean freedoms for all of the corporations first and everyone else is a 2nd class
status. Yellow vests anyone?
I’ve very recently read in the financial news over here (the states) that once you leave there has been many
whispers about the UK joining Nafta aka USMCA. That is a possibility that couldn’t have happened if you
Looking forward to the new season of Who. Hoping I find it to be better than the last one !22 December 2018 at 18:34 #66890
Happy Holidays to all28 November 2018 at 21:15 #66015
I agree with @blenkinsopthebrave broadly. . I’m 1 of the folks that’s a very sympathetic fan of Dr. Who.
I just cant get into this iteration. I didn’t like a few of the before gap series either . I’ve stopped following
these weekly forum blogs. At the same time it upsets me a lot. This series just feels weak to me. Jodie is
a hippie and I know a bit about being a hippie! But still she and these episodes bore me.
That’s probably why your getting more hater posts. I don’t care that the Doctor is a woman.
I don’t care about the inclusion and social justice stuff except I don’t like the relentless heavy
handedness that never felt so in your face before. Its not subtle. Its more sledgehammer.
Its also more kiddie-fied which is a major bummer for me.
Its also bringing us into the current politics of this world in every episode which is currently
a mess on so many levels. So for some that might be ok but for me frankly it just makes me feel sad.
Its a global attitude now and not quite as UK centric in spite of the Sheffield plugs. Something
tangible has been lost for me. Something has definitely changed.2 November 2018 at 15:18 #65364
So to my mind the Whit Doc is trying to flesh out -still – her character thru a social justice warrior lens.
Ok I’ve accepted that this series will be heavy handed with this multiculturalism theme.
CC is trying to change the status quo in this franchise. The subliminal message of Whit Doc
is to question yourself .
My problem is probably that his preoccupation with his ideology is clashing with (so far) a
good plot arc. I prefer a good plot arc. Davies and Moffatt did that really well.1 November 2018 at 20:29 #65338
If only!! Maybe then I’d feel better about 13.1 November 2018 at 16:15 #65330
Yes. Bickerton is correct. The EU is facing a crisis. They are like the Titanic heading for
the iceberg. Brexit is the life boat. Both philosophical and financial. They’ve already admitted
that rebates will be ending. Grants will probably be cut back too. The various countries in Europe
that depend on the UK for a export market are scared shit less about how the EU is jerking around
the negotiations. Portugal recently admitted how desperate they are for a deal. I totally disagree
with the shortages scare mongering. You trade with the rest of the world too. You can get your oranges
elsewhere and they likely will cost less. But you know…… backstop. What drove success in the EU
was economic expansions. But they made critical economic mistakes and now they have outrageous
amounts of toxic debt and are basically running on fumes. That’s why they wont help Italy. But you
know …. its those rules again. Defaults are coming. When you get close to Brussels you recognize
that they haven’t properly evolved and still behave like they’re the head of a sort of exclusive club
and the club members are all slowly beginning to accept their legitimacy less and less. The EU hasn’t
been able to manage that.
BTW, I recently read about the real reason why Jeremy Hunt went to Switzerland . Its all about this
new F4 group. This is what the F4 alliance is.
Its basically a back door into the EU market. Westminster maybe a mess but the City Of London
financial district has geniuses !!31 October 2018 at 01:19 #6525830 October 2018 at 22:56 #65247
Where did you read that? Your a full member of the World Trade Organization!
There will surely be some steps you need to go thru. I very much doubt its been ruled out
when the UK has already been making a special budget to do this and it’s not up to the WTO
whether or not to ‘rule out’ the UK. Rather its up to all the other countries to accept trading
with the UK. I very much doubt that most of Europe wont want to. It will effect them as much as it
effects you! BRW, the UK is already trading with lots of countries outside of the EU under WTO
rules.30 October 2018 at 22:00 #65243
Scotland did have that independence proposition? The bartering situation is ridiculous!
However on 1 hand I can understand how the UK would want to make the most of their fishing/
agricultural resources but I also agree they have to protect them too. My understanding about the
hard Irish border has to do with the customs union. We have between Canada and the States
an electronic scanning system that deals with all of that sort of trade thing. I’m sure both sides know
about this system. This situation shouldn’t even be a situation but from what I’ve read its the EU
that keeps saying that the solutions coming from the UK are unacceptable. I think they’re throwing
up unfortunate road blocks over this.
Finally I’ll say this. I cant see how your parliament will unite to get this vote thru.
Maybe you all need to take a deep breath and prepare for that no Brexit and those WTO rules?30 October 2018 at 20:20 #65224
Isn’t the European Court of Human rights separate from the EU?
If the EU continues to insist on a hard border then any issue with the IRA will be on them!
Good solutions to this do exist and the EU is just using the issue to blackmail the UK.
Thanks, seems I have been doing a lot of arguing all over the place lately, although we need I\
these election wins even more than ever in elections where I am not.30 October 2018 at 19:22 #65221
I have 2 questions but there will probably be others
I wonder if Scotland will still get free University if they leave the UK and also how does the
Scottish fishing industry feel about Brexit?
As for the rest of what you say, I think you might be over thinking your loss. Whether you
have to do some of those things or not I humbly suggest it doesn’t sound too dire.
I do agree that May hasn’t handled Brexit with the greatest finesse on how she’s managing the execution
of all this.
Both our leaders are responsible for astounding anxiety.
I want to help take back Congress and see the orange idiot impeached.