Wow – the Forum has been on fire with some super musings! (I’ve been immured in Exam Boards).

@thane16

If the Tardis was infected when the Doctor saved baby Ruby from the goblin dinner then do we account for his tears, at other times, because part of him, perhaps due to his connection with the Tardis, is aware that something is deeply w…

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@bunface and @Devilishrobby

Thanks yes, blank post, I was trying to include an image of the jukebox with Rose but failed in my efforts!

@pufferfish – thanks for the song find!

Seems like a gloating song from Lord Sutekh – he’s got control of the TARDIS (/alternative Red TARDIS – let’s see) so can presumably spread his dominion of death throughout time and space:

“Roam if you want to

Roam around the world

Roam if you want to

Without wings, without wheels”

@Whisht and @ScaryB as our resident musos – what is the tune Susan Twist dances to on stage? It’s bugging me as it’s really familiar…

@bunface @Blenkinsopthebrave @thane16

I wonder if Gatwa Doctor’s frequent tears are because, on some deep level, he recognises that there is a Red Doctor/ Sutekh-possessed Red TARDIS out there in the crossed…[Read more]

Sutekhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Lord of Death…

@bunface @thane16

Just rewatching… What about Kate testing DNA and saying ‘Just because Susan Triad is nice, doesn’t mean she can’t change. A chrysalis doesn’t know it’s a butterfly. A phoenix is just a bird until it burns.’

Is that a hint… As you said, baaaad Doctor?

I re-watched The Pyramids of Mars…[Read more]

@WhoHar exellent summary!

To your “What needs clearing up” list I’d add:

8. Who is the Meep’s boss and is that the same as Rogue’s new boss?

9. To whom did the mysterious red-finger-nailed hand belong, which picked up the gold tooth the Master is supposedly trapped in?

10. Why could Maestro sense that the oldest of the Toymaker’s Pantheon was…[Read more]

I feel like we haven’t talked about Rogue’s line about loss – sometimes the simplest dialogue is the best:

“We travelled together, we had fun, and then one day a day came along, and at the end of that day, I lost them.”

I love that line – it captures the shock and the banality, the unexpected finality of loss. We know death is coming,…[Read more]

@JanetteB

He promises to take Rogue to Gallifrey. Does that mean that Gallfirey still exists?

Yes I noticed that and I was happy, as I was not a fan of the re-genociding of Gallifrey by the Dhawan Master. It detracted IMHO from the fact that the War Doctor was responsible/ the 9th and 10th and 11th Doctors believed he was responsible for the…[Read more]

I realise with a smile that RTD2 set this episode in Bath in 1813 – that’s the year Pride and Prejudice was published.

Not only that, but Austen lived in Bath for a bit, and at an address in Gay Street no less. Two of her novels were set there too, Northanger Abbey and Persuasion.

Rogue is certainly about pride and prejudice, given the Doctor’s…[Read more]

@bunface

Noticed second time that Varma’s bird form entered the room to announce the wedding saying ‘wilkommen, bienvenue’ like the Emcee in Cabaret. A film all about masquerade and queerness in the face of a very dark threat.

Ooh – I missed that – more masquerade – love it… I am forever a fan of Alan Cumming’s version of Cabaret.

The bird-headed shape-shifters kept ringing a bell in my head and I’ve now twigged what they put me in mind of…

Has anyone read John Fowles’ The Magus? I read it when I was far too young, which is of course, exactly the right age (my parents had excellent inappropriate bookshelves in the hallways) and as such it was absolutely…[Read more]

@ScaryB

“queering” of the Doctor. (Not delved into the nether regions of Twitter tho, or BTL comments). But this old school DW veteran is very happy.

Me too – I’m delighted. I may have let out an undignified squeal once Gatwa Doc starting getting his flirt on with Rogue.

@Miapatrick I feel the need for a rainbow TARDIS mug with Gatwa-Doc lea…[Read more]

@ps1l0v3y0u  I actually saw a fun tongue-in-cheek theory on Twitter suggesting the Doctor got banished to the Barbie universe (presumably to eternal dance-offs with the other Kens) when he broke the faerie ring and released Mad Jack (I enjoyed Barbie incidentally, to be honest a lot more than Oppenheimer – biopics are almost always too…[Read more]

@bunface

so maybe the fact Ruby Sunday (I mean, the name!) is so very reminiscent of Rose/Amy/Clara is because she’s full on alien, even in the world of Who. That is, she isn’t just alien, she’s a supernatural/fairy tale/Disney character.

Which makes me wonder, is she even real to the Doctor, only he doesn’t know it yet?

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Hello @cathannabel

which makes me sad that Whitaker got such a raw deal with both the quality of scripts and stories, and the pandemic disrupting her run

Yes a discussion for another thread, but heartily agree (I think there were some banger one-off scripts but a timidity about the first female Doctor when there should have been a swagger – if…[Read more]

@coockgroom

re mrs flood being Ruby, someone mentioned a few weeks ago, that mrs Flood didn’t recognise the Tardis when it appeared, but realised it was a type of tardis when it dematerialised.

Hmmm – perhaps in the time-line Mrs. Flood (as a version of Old Ruby) is from, the Doctor’s TARDIS never got stuck as a 1960s Earth Police Box? &…[Read more]

Having some more thoughts about Susan Twist…

Ruby has been followed around time and space by three old women now:

1) Mrs. Flood, posing as her next door neighbour in The Church on Ruby Road who knows what a TARDIS is, and prompts her to get on board;

2) Old Witchy Ruby in 73 Yards  who haunts her younger self in order to, eventually, prompt…[Read more]

Well, that was a savage satire on our times, and I loved it.

Dot and bubble – the dot-com bubble – a metaphor for the way ‘civilisations’ fall through myopia, and the how the rich, despite their supremacist fantasy beliefs, simply cannot insulate themselves from such civilisational collapse.

It immediately put me in mind of Douglas Rushkof…[Read more]

@Mudlark

 …trust me, I’m an archaeologist

If I were an archeologist I would definitely have a sign/ bumper sticker somewhere with River’s immortal line from The Husbands of River Song, “I’m an archaologist from the future, I dug you up”.

As for Ruby giving birth to herself, she’d have to have boffed her own Dad to do it, and I really don’t se…[Read more]