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  • #11055

    Ah, I see ET has left the building!

    #11054

    @fishcombobulated

    Quality name!

    I think you are probably wrong, but like the idea – I think that dialogue was simply to emphasise the debt he felt to them. “The were….kind” was simply devastating.

    #11053

    @EcclestonTennant

    I thought some people would agree with my point, but no, nobody has agreed yet,

    That is because you have yet to properly outline your point.

    Do so, or troll off.

    #11051

    @Shazzbot

    , “Kübler-Ross noted that these stages are not meant to be a complete list of all possible emotions that could be felt, and, they can occur in any order.”

    Indeedy – each individuals path is personal. A very very lucky few can even go directly to acceptance. A lot suppress the anger for many years.

    #11030

    Denial

    I’ll come back to that…

    Anger

    We’ve always implicitly assumed that Eccleston was all PTSD and Rose brought him back.

    Bargaining

    Tennant is bargaining like a boss – from condemning Harriet Jones to dispensing with the The Family of Blood; From the Fires of Pompeii to and giving the Vasta Nerada a choice to….. I’m a God!

    Depression

    Matt Smith is the brutal realisation that he is alone with his choices; that those with him echo his loss and abandonment from the “Girl Who Waited” to “I Don’t Know Where I Am”.

    Acceptance

    So one way or another I expect Clara and Hurt!Doctor to be his path to acceptance; and that of course requires first the realisation that he must end the denial.

    I’m all about the metaphor, me.

    #11028

    @EcclestonTennant

    I think “dumbed down” is one of the laziest phrases in the English language. It is, of course, quite impossible to dumb something up.

    So perhaps if you could be clear and specific about what you mean that would look a tad less trollish.

    #10829

    @wolfweed

    Back to Grown-Up News – What do people think about the BBC wasting £100 Million?

    I think that admitting it was a write off and halting put good money after bad compares very favourably with almost every government procurement of the last 20 years…

    #10816

    There is no getting away from the fact that JLC is very, very pretty.

    (I realise that’s technically on topic, but this is the pub)

    How about The Slaughtered Zarbi?

    #10798

    I’m thinking The Slaughtered Sontaran might be a nice American Werewolf/ Who crossover pub name…

    #10753

    @Shazzbot  – yep, it’s mine

    @craig – yeah, Brooker at his best is devastating (see also Bowling for Columbine, which makes essentially the same point).

    Re Real Life – I think we have an intelligent and thoughtful enough membership (as well as zero-tolerance of trolling and abuse) to have an “In the Pub” section to complement “On the Sofa”.

    #10741

    If I may crave your indulgence (and in the absence of a formal “Off-topic” space:

    The pornography of news

    #10737

    @budinacup

    It was never about the Doctor’s name, it was about what would be done in The Name of The Doctor.

    It was not just the ‘secret/ grave is discovered’ phrase that was playing with language…

     

    #10277

    @craig

    Nicely fixed, Sir!

    I’ve just noticed the search box at the top doesn’t seem to search the forum. Can it be made to do that? (was a right pain tracking down the Chekhov’s Duck posts)

     

    PS I think WP-SuperCache is a popular load control plugin.

    #10175
    #10152

    @confuseus

    assumes Sexy (who already told us that she chose her Doctor) is controlling Clara to ensure Clara entices Hartnell to the ‘correct’ Tardis.

    Why? There is as much basis for assuming cahoots as coercion. And just as Clara always recognises the Doctor, she could equally recognise the correct Tardis to neither cahoots nor coercion are essential.

    @davemorris316 – yep. There as all necessary scope for retcon, but canon remains canon.

    #10151

    @shazbott @blenkinsopthebrave

    While Clara suggested Hartnell take the other Tardis, we do not know that he took her advice. You may be right, but there is still ambiguity.

    Nonsense. Chekhov’s Duck applies. “The navigation’s knackered…” is the key phrase.

    #10126

    @Shazzbot

    This one seemed to have more edits than ever before.  (That’s probably just my feeling, and I’m more than happy to be proved wrong.)  What is going on behind the scenes, between those edits, those repeated get-up-get-out-sit-back-down-again moments?  Surely as she grows older, she’s more capable of sitting still for longer?

    I think it is more a case of her parents protecting her from the more adult oriented stuff – and maybe that she didn’t fully grasp the Hartnell scene significance (which to us, of course, is a complete fangasm, but to even enlightened Americans might not see quite so obviously much)

    #10124

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    You aren’t the only one (I had Susan as plan b, but it always seemed evident to me that the 50 year gap is between Hartnell and his granddaughter)

    #10115

    Awesome work from LindaLee there!

    #10113

    @juniperfish

    Only trouble is, Clara seems to be assuming the Doctor is kind of her boyfriend at the moment.

    Well, to be fair, she is operating with imperfect information. After all, Amy made a confused pass at the Doctor.

    Still plenty of room for begating.

    But shipping is still evil.

    #10109

    @juniperfish

    Well if the Osiris/ Isis parallels continue, then we can expect a child – because when Isis resurrected Osiris she conceived Horus.

    And Doc and River begat Clara who begat Susan….

    Remember who very good River is at not letting people know what their true relationship is…

    #9767

    @shazzbot

    But when the heck did she learn his name??

    I am still inclining towards when signing their daughter’s birth certificate….

    #9764

    @juniperfish

    Maybe I’m just sulking because I was hoping for a granddaughter revelation. That would have had the most wonderful narrative symmetry across 50 years.

    The 50 years aren’t up yet (I think daughter is a much more likely revelation – a mother-daughter bond is a great Riveresque spoiler)

    #9686

    @craig – just lost a lengthy post because WordPress uses non-standard keystrokes (meaning I accidentally hit the ‘back’ operation). Do you know if there’s a way to get WP to properly cache posts-in-progress (as, for example PHPBB does)?

    Also, the bullet format seems non-fucntional

    #9685

    Huh – bullets didn’t work on that post.

    #9683

    Some random musing now that I’ve seen it without a 10 min unscheduled break.

    “Goodbye sweetie” strikes me as fairly definitive, echoing as it does the many “Hello sweeties”
    I’m glad they did undermined River’s FotD sacrifice by have her return corporeally (aka the Flaying of Warren Mears Abomination, for those who have read the S8 Buffy comics;
    I think Hurt!Doc fits most naturally between McGann!Doc and Eccleston!Doc as a sort of repressed memory – think of all those WW1 soldiers who never discussed their experiences until VERY later in life);
    This makes me wonder if the time War is something rather different to what we have been led to suppose. What if it is a betrayal for which the Doc feels more than just survivors guilt?

    Other bits and bobs

    Glasgow. LOL.
    Nice to see Strax get a bit of nuance
    Hartnell in colour
    Susan
    Am leaning a bit more towards Clara is the next Doc theory

    #9586

    John Hurt as Garnish.

    The Name of the Doctor!

    #9585

    S8 officially commissioned to air in either Spring or Autumn 2014 (I suspect the delay was all part of the fever-whipping).

    #9569

    Ber-limey.

    Apart from the 3 mins or so in the middle I missed because MY FUCKING BT BOX CRASHED, that was ace.

    #9498

    @craig

    I bet you say that to all the nerds…

    #9464

    @miapatrick

    Or it could be that far fewer disc went out than was initially feared.

    #9080

    Spoilerish speculation

    Nothing to see here

     

    move along now

     

    GET OUT

    *****

    I suspect the thing “River” is warning Clara against is giving the Doctor a glimpse of what the universe would be without him – showing him the “Doctor shape hole” (riffing on the Clarence/ It’s A Good Life thing in the NiS thread). So perhaps “dead River” is a River who never quite made it to the library, but was simply an ordinary woman born to an ordinary couple in a small village near Gloucester…

    #9062

    @lula

    (I really mean it–Buffy is in my top 5 of favorite dramas.)

    This is true of all right-thinking people.

    #9012

    @scaryb – oooh, you’re making coffee? Yes please!

    #9007

    @scaryb

    the Moff’s Scottish and we don’t do cricket!!

    *cough* Mike Denness *cough*

    #9006

    Love the Clara/Clarence (angel) @osakahatter mentioned upstream (Sent by the Tardis? River? Both?)

    OI! When I spot something it would be nice to get credit! *mumbles about the attention span of the youth of today. It’s A Wonderful Life my arse ;)*

    #8985

    Hehe.

    Courtesy of IMDB

    Clarence: I’m Clarence Oddbody, AS2.

    George Bailey: Oddbody… Hey, what’s an AS2?

    Clarence: Angel, Second Class.

    Set on a snowy Christmas Eve, of course.

    Meanwhile, the Alaska Junior entertainment officer…

    #8984

    @osakahatter – Of course, every time a bell (of St John?) rings and angel wins its wings….

    #8970

    Somebody must have noticed that before, surely?

    #8967

    @OsakaHatter

    possibly by being shown the Doctor shaped hole in the universe, and seeing who he should be.

    By an angel called Clarence?

    Um….hang on….

    #8938

    the Replica Sonic Screwdriver of Harmony

    Harmony you say?

    #8928

    @HTPBDET – quite right. And of course, by spotting Porridge’s secret, Angie was more the companion that Clara, which may or may not prove significant.

    #8912

    Perhaps Moffat should set up an Emergency Wikipedia Vandalism Squad to post red herrings and falsehoods just so the spoilers get lost in the crowd…

    #8905

    People should be aware that there is a radio trailer with even more of the apparently-but-probably-not spoilerific Clara-isms than the TV trailer.

    #8845

    http://cheezburger.com/5764372480 ( guaranteed spoiler free)

    #8813

    @craig – it might be a good idea to close the site to new registrations for the time being.

    #8812

    From the Dr Who Facebook page:

     

    We understand that a small number of US fans have received in error their DVD edition of Series 7 Part 2 early. We respectfully ask those fans not to divulge information or post content publicly so that fellow fans who have yet to see the episodes do not have their viewing pleasure ruined.

    If everyone keeps the secrets safe until next Saturday we will release a special new clip featuring material of the Tenth AND Eleventh Doctor!

    #8702

    What did people make of the screen-POV we got several times

    Wasn’t that just a cybermite POV?

    #8639

    @Mephistopheles – I thought the tight skirt thing was a residue of cyber-11 trying to assert before being slapped down. Just a bit of cheeky smut…

    I am now rather inclined to a “House, season4” ending (those who haven’t seen it missed a master class in managed and then confounded expectations)

    #8603

    @chickenelly Yep – think it is the same one – either it’s a lie, or its the macguffin we’ve been watching while the real story occurs just off to one side!

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