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  • #30456
    Serahni @replies

    I’m going to jump in quickly in Clara’s defense because she’s actually a character I’ve enjoyed more than other companions in the reboot, including Rose. (Yes, I said it.)  Of course, that doesn’t mean I think she’s been necessarily ideally presented yet and I’m still hopeful that the stories to come will place the ones that have already been in better context.  I also don’t mind that people disagree!  The best thing about Who is the diversity; if you stick with it long enough, there’s usually something for everyone to enjoy.

    However, I think it is probably fair to point out that at the time ‘Deep Breath’ occurs, Clara’s just been through the wringer several times.  It’s all well and good to be critical of her for being ‘smug’ or ‘angsty’ or just plain unreasonable about her expectations of the new Doctor, but quite a lot happened all at once to Clara.  I think it’s easy to overlook the fact that, whilst the Doctor’s time on Trenzalore played out over 100s of years, Clara spent quite a lot of that time ‘in-transit’.  Zipping back and forth as he kept trying to eject her, has anyone actually tried to calculate just how much time actually passed for Clara during all of this?  For once, it was the companion who was able to bypass all the waiting and the living and so, whilst the Doctor waited out all those years, Clara experienced it all as a confusing rush.  One minute he was younger, then he was older.

    She also spent some time clinging to the side of the TARDIS.  That’s gotta mess you up a bit.

    So are we being too harsh to expect her not to have some qualms about an older-looking Doctor when a very ancient Doctor just about nearly convinced her that he was on the way out for good?  Forced to deal with the Doctor’s absolute certainty that he was at the end of his days, might she not panic that he’s regenerated into a creased face once again framed by grey hair?  There was such a huge emphasis on her judging him because he’s old that people seem inclined to side with Vastra and assume it has to do with romantic feelings but maybe it’s just a reaction to having seen him so terribly, terribly old and frail.  A regeneration is supposed to be a ‘new’ Doctor and, given how close to death he got, is it not at least possible that Clara is just still frightened that ‘old’ is going to amount to ‘weak’?  That ‘old’ is somehow going to determine the length of this regeneration?  Has she really had a significant opportunity to recover from the real and palpable fear that the Doctor was saying his final goodbyes?

    I’m not sure I think so.  What’s more, everyone, including Vastra, is inclined to believe that she’s only mourning the ‘boyfriend’ figure, treating her as if she’s just a shallow pretty-face with nothing left to bat her eyelashes at and yet this is a Doctor who doesn’t even properly remember who he is.  Perhaps she did fall for his younger mask and allowed it to lull her into a sense of false security but I honestly walked away from the episode feeling that what Clara was really reacting to was the Doctor’s own shaky sense of self.  Unpredictable, unstable, untrustworthy; doesn’t even remember her name to start with.  Certainly doesn’t seem to have recalled her significance or sacrifice.  She’s been tumbling through time and space with a man who was so decisive and sure of his place in the grand scheme of things that he was willing to meet his death if it meant protecting a township of innocent people, and now she’s been lumbered with someone who, from the first moment she laid eyes on him, couldn’t even recall how to fly the TARDIS.  He’s confused to the point of barely seeming to understand that he is The Doctor and yet we want to admonish her for merely missing a younger face.

    There have been many issues with Clara’s characterisation to-date, or lack-thereof as some might suggest.  She was a plot device for too long and really only started coming into her own once The Impossible Girl arc was solved but I’m not sure, in this instance, that she’s mourning or ‘freaking out’ in quite the way Vastra accused her of.  Somewhere between a whirlwind tour of the Doctor’s final stand and landing on Earth inside a dinosaur, she’s clearly had a very, very scary and uncertain time with a complete and utter stranger who doesn’t even know himself.  I’d be scared too.

    It didn’t seem to me that Clara rejected the 11th Doctor when he was old and frail.  She kept trying to get back to him, she wanted to stay with him, she argued with him when he wanted to go out alone.  She sat with him and read him a Christmas cracker.  She also got on considerably well with Hurt’s Doctor, and yet Vastra, and so many, want to suggest she only cares about him because he looks young and dishy.  I don’t agree.

    #30421
    Serahni @replies

    New bonkers Missy theory time!  Or at least an extension of others.

    A friend in my Facebook feed wrote:

    What if the Oswin Oswald Dalek somehow survived the destruction of the Dalek Asylum world? What a great villain she would make.

    And I immediately thought…yeah, she WOULD.  A crazy-bonkers Dalek Clara trapped inside a fantasy-world of her own devising.  Sort of like…Paradise.

    Dun dun duuuuun.

    #30389
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    @Evs

    I think the dialogue goes:

    The Doctor: “I’m not your boyfriend, Clara.”
    Clara: “I never thought you were.”
    The Doctor: “I didn’t say it was your mistake.” 
    He most definitely is talking to her.  What he’s saying is that he didn’t mean that SHE thought he was her boyfriend, rather he’s implying that the fantasy existed on his side, as ScaryB says. 🙂

    #30347
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    One very small thing before I head off to work for the first time in two days.  Bronchitis for the lose.

    @scaryb  Are we really sure that Clara’s experience with the Doctor only extends up to number 11?  It seems to me, and I could be wrong, that when you jump into someone’s timestream, you jump into ALL of him.  If there’s one constant in Who, it’s that the Doctor’s life doesn’t exist in a linear sense so I’m not sure I’d go as far as to limit Clara to only the point in which she jumped in.  They clearly weren’t going to show us future glimpses because “spoilers!” but I’m very resistant to trusting Moffat to close any book and leave it closed!  I certainly agree that it can go either way and that if he intends to close off the “Impossible Girl” arc indefinitely, then your explanation works perfectly.  I just also think there’s some room for him to argue later on that the whole ‘everything exists at the same time’ wibbly-wobbly theory was in play and that, by jumping into his timestream, she got stretched along the duration of his entire life.  The Doctor’s constantly meeting himself and his timeline has more loops than a rollercoaster.  Anything seems possible.

    #30313
    Serahni @replies

    @geoffers  I thought much the same thing, I think I mentioned it previously, (or could have just dreamed I did.  It’s been that kind of week.)  Those who thought Clara was overshadowed by Amy have had that rectified now, surely, which is poignant and quite sweet.

    Oddly enough, I never understood the concern though.  I admit, in a traditional sense of how regeneration scenes tend to go, Clara might as well not have been there, the Doctor would have happily spoken to himself, I think!  From her point of view, that must have been daunting and, well, scary.  I do wonder if perhaps the Doctor expected her to be better prepared, since the Impossible Girl has seen all his faces and probably knows better than any companion save Susan and Romana what the process is all about.  There is also the point that the Doctor had been without her for a very long time.  What had been a whirlwind of time vortex hitchhiking for Clara was hundreds of years for him, so perhaps you can forgive the old duffer for not being entirely ‘in the moment’ with her.  She must have felt a bit like a piece of the past that kept boomeranging back. (Then again, Impossible Girl…he’s never really got rid of her, has he? :D)

    But really, the reason I never thought he was dismissive of Clara was because, instead of thinking about what I expected as a viewer from a regeneration scene, I tried to look at the story and how it unfolded and I realised that, whilst Clara might not have been central to his goodbye when he was regenerating, she was front and foremost in his mind when he thought he was dying.  This is a man who has since sort of intimated that he kind of fancied himself as her boyfriend.  Yet he sent her away to keep her safe.  Twice.  When there was no time for a third time, he pleaded with her to let him keep her safe one last time and, with feeble arms, gave her a parting hug and said goodbye.  A man notorious for hating goodbyes.

    “I’ll be keeping you safe. One last victory. Allow me that. Give me that. My Impossible Girl. Thank you. And goodbye.”

    So whilst I kind of get why people were a bit miffed at him for being high on vortex energy and too full of his own accomplishments to pay her or her feelings any attention, I always found it quite compelling that he most certainly did not ignore her when he thought his time was up.

    And, of course, now we know he wasn’t ignoring her even when high on vortex energy.  He really did have it bad, didn’t he?

    #30312
    Serahni @replies

    @geoffers  Well, between us we’ve managed to come up with two clock towers that would work.  The more this nuts idea of mine gets air-time, the more I kind of want to see what it would look like.  The clock/clockwork theme is already pretty strong, with the new opening title sequence and now a favoured pocketwatch masquerading as an unimportant barter in the first episode.  (I don’t trust your unimportant stuff anymore, Moffat!)  Then we have Victorian Clara claiming she was ‘born’ behind the clock face, (which again has the feel of something that could still hold significance.)  We’re all hedging our bets that there is still more to this ‘blatantly human’ Clara than meets the eye, so by the magic of explanations that I can’t quite come up with, I deduce that she is of Gallifreyan descent and that she, and possibly a heap more of them, are coming out of Big Ben’s clock tower.

    There, I said it.

     

    #30304
    Serahni @replies

    @geoffers  That’s because I’m a twit and I keep getting my clock towers muddled up.  XD  I’d forgotten about the one on Trenzalore, I was actually meaning what, for argument’s sake, might be called Big Ben.  *lol*  But I like your theory even better!  It actually sounds almost feasible.

    #30287
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    I go to bed and wake up only to find someone left the cage door open.

    Now you’ve scared the goat.  You know what the smell of troll does to him.

     

    Meanwhile….

    @arbutus  I admit it’s a ridiculously fanciful idea, all of Gallifrey exploding from the Clock Tower, but it would bring back that Gallifrey vs. Earth ‘which home gets to live!’ quandary.  (Okay, it’s probably not going to happen but it would look cool if it did.)

    As for the Doctor being a ‘bad’ person, I think he’s always existed in shades of grey for no other reason than you cannot live the life he leads and remain perpetually in the light.  A human’s definition of right and wrong tends to be, aside from some abstract realisation that life will still be around after we’re gone, quite quantum-locked within our own lifetime.  Most of us have a decent moral centre but there’s also some scope to argue that there are things we don’t do, not because we suffer tremendous moral guilt if we do, but because we risk getting into trouble. (Speeding, stealing, scrumping…)  Not all of us but at least some of us, especially the younger we are.  How controlled are our children, after all, by the notion of punitive consequence?  Until the get over their egocentricity and develop true empathy in any case.  Humans, traditionally at least, are very bad at making decisions based on something that might be catastrophic in a thousand years time.  see: climate debate

    Imagine, however, if we had the Doctor’s awareness of the implications of our actions.  Not just conjecture but actual hard fact.  Imagine if we could visit the result of our choices.

    For the Doctor, he’s got a bloody long time to live and a very large estate to take care of, with a lot of stakeholders and potential threats.  On a cosmic scale, who knows how many times he’s been faced with impossible decisions, like the proverbial ‘which child would you save from the cliff?’ scenario?  It is impossible to be the good guy to all the people, all the time.  With even the best intentions, it is a huge responsibility to accept control over situations where the outcome cannot be 100% survival of the deserving.  This is a man who surrendered, at first, his entire civilization for ‘the greater good’.  That may seem like the ultimate, but how many times, on much smaller scales, has the Doctor been left listening to the cheers of a grateful crowd, only too aware that some voices are missing?

    Indeed, his choice of face and the fact that he seems to be aware of some significance behind it might point to just this kind of mental anguish.  Pompeii was a classic example of him having to look at the larger scale, accept responsibility for the lesser of the two evils, and then stand there and watch people burn.  To the people of Pompeii, he was not a hero, and I would wager the Doctor is likely to carry around the faces and names of the people he couldn’t help with far more clarity than those he does.

    So good or bad?  It really depends where you’re standing.

    #30168
    Serahni @replies

    Sitting here reading theories, enjoying the links people make.  I have always loved my Who but I don’t find I memorise the tiny details as well as some of you, probably because I’m usually braindead by the time I have an opportunity to watch anything.  (Either that or seriously multitasking!)  Keep them rolling, they’re good fun!

    I have been also sitting here thinking that, whilst Clara’s reaction to the new doctor seems understandable, especially if we’re accepting that she represents the audience in some ways, it’s also kind of interesting to note that her inexperience with what to expect and how to handle it kind of suggests she hasn’t retained much of anything about her splintered selves.  Theoretically, she’s the one companion to have at least noted all the different variations, even if maybe this is the first time she’s ever been close enough to him for it to affect her personally.  She’s also MET two other versions of him and got along really quite well with them, Hurt’s Doctor in particular.  Of course, it can all be rationalised away by simply saying that she was closest to the 11th and, with that whole boyfriend/girlfriend vibe, there’s more of a sense of loss to be felt, but part of me is kind of also hoping that these theories about her having some kind of link with the Doctor are true and that, in fact, her wariness now is not so much a reaction to his change but because somewhere, some part of her is sensing something about him that it doesn’t like.  She’s right through his timestream, who knows what wibbly-wobbly vibes she’s getting from future Claricles.

    Possibly she knows this Doctor spells her own doom even?

    #30159
    Serahni @replies

    Clearly the answer to all of this is that Gallifrey is Earth, all the Timelords have their Timelordness locked inside the Clock Tower, this makes Clara either Romana or Susan or The Master or the Rani or Rassilon himself and Missy is the Cyberman’s ‘Borg Queen’.

    Season over, you can all go home now!  *lol*

    (Hugely tongue-in-cheek-, I never remember enough cross-over details to come up with legitimate theories.)

    #30151
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    @purofilion @barnable  The only tricky thing to get my head around so far is that I’ve seen promo shots of The Doctor and Missy and Cybermen.  (I think I did, anyway, when I was looking up that photo of her to use.)  That doesn’t rule anything out but it does leave me with not enough clues yet to make my “Missy is TARDIS” theory work yet.  *lol*

    #30150
    Serahni @replies

    The clock in the Clock Tower is a massive timepiece.  It’s featured so many times because it’s such a significant cultural backdrop but maybe even that isn’t a coincidence.  What could a clock that size be hiding if a small pocketwatch can contain one Time Lord?

    DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN.

    #30147
    Serahni @replies

    And now, a question!

    I know that the conclusion to the scene with the tramp was left fairly ambiguous, with us not really knowing exactly how the Doctor got the coat.  (At one point, he tried to bully it off the poor guy, after all.)  But is there any significance to the watch he mentions giving in exchange?  Given that watches have played such a significant part in hiding away Timelordness in the past, it seems like an unlikely reference to just throw in for the hell of it, right?

    #30143
    Serahni @replies

    I’ll throw another mad theory into the ‘who is Missy?’ pot because why not?  I don’t even have any reason that I can think of but that never really negates the possibility of things in Who.  *lol*

    Mad Theory

    Because why not…

    #30134
    Serahni @replies

    I’ll weigh in briefly on the ‘inclusion of Matt Smith’s Doctor’ debate.

    My first reaction was one of surprise but intrigue.  I didn’t see it as an intrusion as some have mentioned, or an insult to Capaldi, more of an exciting hint at a continuing narrative that still has threads deeply linked to past events.  I also think there was a lot of deeper meaning going on, not to mention that I just think it fits with all the characters involved.  It rounds off the end of Matt’s story with an action that his Doctor would definitely have done.

    For instance, Capaldi’s Doctor’s assertion that he’s not Clara’s boyfriend, given that he reassures her it wasn’t necessarily her mistake he’s referencing, finally gives us a verified look inside the 11th’s mindset regarding their relationship, (even though you’d have to be a blind halfwit to have missed it. *lol*)  Now I recall quite a few people feeling that Clara was overshadowed by Amy in Matt’s final scene, even though I have argued that his earlier, more-poignant goodbye to Clara and a request to allow him to save her was far more moving given that he thought he was actually at the end of his days at that point.  Now that we know, in fact, that he was definitely thinking about her and making provisions to still be there for her at a difficult turning point, I’m not sure we can continue to claim that Clara was poorly done-by.  So there is that.

    That’s neither here-nor-there, really, and is only a nice little moment for those of us who enjoyed their chemistry.  What I most liked about the phone call was that it really did become a metaphor for the change in direction that we keep hearing we should expect from this series.  Since the series rebooted, we have had young Doctors.  We have an entire generation of fans for whom the Doctor is a young, rather handsome figure who tends to have a lot of girls flirting with him.  Moffat’s copped a lot of criticism for that, I won’t go into my own feelings.  (Other than to agree it gets tiresome.)  Here we have a pivotal moment in which that version of the Doctor, that heart-throbbish fan-girl-exciting dashing young thing, asks for Clara’s help in accepting a very different stereotype.  If, as is so often suggested, the companion is the audience’s eyes and ears, thoughts and feelings, then the metaphor becomes quite obvious.

    We are being asked to accept our new, very scared, very different Doctor.

    So aside from the fact that it makes sense that 11 would do that, given what is now nearly a confession of his feelings at the time, and the fact that it kind of made up for the very abrupt way in which he left her, allowing for a proper chance to say goodbye, I think it possibly was a very deliberate ‘changing of the guards’ scene to hammer it home that Who is about to change.  This isn’t just one actor handing on the baton to another, it’s an actor taking an image that has worked in propelling Doctor Who back into the hearts and minds of countless fans, old and new, and rewriting it.

    That’s gotta be pretty scary.

    #30022
    Serahni @replies

    Just watched it properly, after seeing bits of it whilst I was up coughing with bronchitis.  (It aired at 4:50am in Australia.)  I really enjoyed it!  A lot of season-openers seem a little light on plot because there’s often so much in-house stuff to take care of and this was definitely a case where there needed to be just enough to drive the new Doctor’s solidification and redefine, (or at least restrengthen) his existing relationships.  For that reason, I had no qualms with the quite simplistic storyline.  There was more that the episode needed to get done and anything too grandiose would have made a mess of all of it.

    I liked the very deliberate references to the past relationship between Clara and the Doctor, I thought it was a fitting way to move past it without trying to pretend certain nuances didn’t exist.  I liked the return of the illustrious trio, though Strax was underrepresented and that’s always going to disappoint me.  The actual story about the androids didn’t affect me much and I didn’t find myself caring much one way or the other but, as I said, I wasn’t watching the episode for its plot story.

    And what I saw of next week’s preview looks exciting!

    #24828
    Serahni @replies

    I love the new look too though my first reaction was to cringe at those boots.  Not because I don’t think they’re awesome but because I know from long experience how long they take to break in.  *lol*  Still, a Doctor in Doc Martens is long overdue in my opinion.  Bring it.

    #24737
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    Oh dear, a music thread.  It’s going to take me all day to go through this and listen to everything.

    I can’t even begin to describe my taste in music.  I’ve never been one to favour artists, I tend to just collect a heap of favourite songs and some of them are performed by the same people.  If I had to try to pinpoint what drives me towards some music more than others it would be one of two things; either I enjoy singing it or it tells a story to me.  Given that creative writing has always been ‘my thing’, it’s safe to say that I use music to ‘soundtrack’ a lot of my internal storytelling.  Some songs help me define characters, others just set a mood.  I also exist on the autism spectrum and, as some of you might know, internalised fantasy worlds are a fairly common way to unpack information and ‘practise’ all those intricate little social scripts that make the world go around.  I was a kid with a huge imagination and spent a lot of time plugged into music letting my imaginary friends help me figure stuff out.  Since moods ebb and flow, my taste in music tends to be vast.

    I also did musical theatre for 15 years.  That has an impact.

    So I’ll share a couple that I just happen to have listened to today for no other reason than they’re the first that come to mind!

    (Screw it, just adding links!  I am a forum-flop.)

     

     

    Come on, you know you’re seat-dancing to that last one.

     

     

    #24693
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    @purofilion  *lol*  If it helps you out, I did live in London for two years, right in time to attend the 40th Anniversary Panopticon, in fact, but I am Australian born and bred.  And thank you for your kind words, I do enjoy writing.  I just wish I could hold Who facts in my head like some of you, I am constantly amazed at the level of recollection some fans have.

    #24675
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    @purofilion  That would also be excellent!  I’d almost go as far as to say that the character wouldn’t need to understand much of how the Doctor lives, how the TARDIS works, or any of that timey-wimey stuff.  It’d be great if they came from an era or a civilisation where the concept of time travel is more or less accepted but not considered general knowledge enough for the whole populace to be conversant on its intricacies.  I mean, I don’t know how to fly a plane.  I don’t know how to fix a plane, or build a plane, or land a plane, but I will admit I don’t spend a lot of time marveling that I can get on one and travel around the world.  I just get on the thing and read a book until it’s time to get off again.  A companion who at least starts with an inherent lack of astonishment and a healthy measure of indifference would be refreshing.  Throw in a personality that doesn’t compliment the Doctor’s but rather clashes with it, someone who can and will employ violence if the end justifies the means, and then I think you’d have an interesting dynamic!

    If she/he just happened to be a sleek, elegant, articulate lizard-person, then that would just be a bonus.

    But I guess this isn’t a thread for new companion speculation.  *lol*  Tangents, I am so good at them.

    #24669
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    @arbutus   True enough and I too hold out hope that they have a fitting way to write her out when the inevitable time comes.  With all the speculation about links to his family through Susan, I suppose it’s timely enough to remember that even his own granddaughter eventually left him to pursue a life of her own.  My biggest fear is substandard writing that just winds up not being fulfilling.  I’m not a Mof-hater by any means but when you find yourself loving a character despite a lack of real opportunity to get to know her, it’s hard not to fear a certain amount of callousness in dealing with her final moments.  I’ve also started to realise that it was Victorian Clara that made me fall in love with the character, and her performance in The Day of the Doctor also struck a chord.  I loved watching her with Hurt’s Doctor, that felt like a reassuring precursor.

    @blackthorn  Which leads me to agreeing with you, I wish it had been Victorian Clara traveling with the Doctor!  We need a breath of fresh air in regards to companions and their origins, I think, I’d love either a human from another era or an alien.

    And of course, I make no effort to hide that I still fully expect and demand them to bring Romana back at some point. 😉  Not necessarily to travel with him but as a guest spot.  She seems like an achingly obvious absence in a landscape continually obsessed with how the Doctor never meets anyone that can live as long as he does.

    More than anything, I’d love a companion that doesn’t NEED the Doctor.  Someone who can have their own identity independent of him, who maybe even travels with him as part of their own, seemingly dubious agenda.  Some sort of cross between Leela and Madame Vastra.  Hell yes, can we have a Silurian assassin please?  *lol*

    #24635
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    @purofilion  Thank you!  For me, the worst of the dilemma seems to be that there’s ‘no way back to normal’ for Clara and that the only option is to either stagnate as a ‘get out of jail free’ card or become something even bigger.  I’d be happy with just Clara.  I think she’s delightful and performed to perfection, I don’t necessarily need her to be more than another gutsy human the Doctor sweeps up along the way, but we’re past the point of no return in that regard.  That’s the problem with martyrs; once you become a figurehead, you lose your humanity.  And there doesn’t seem a fitting way for her to end, she’s been virtually set up as the girl who NEVER ends and that seems like a potential narrative flop waiting to happen, not to mention you can’t surely tie down future series to the idea that there is a character out there who logically has to keep existing.  Can you?  I really hope they haven’t spent all this time establishing her as something so pervasive only to have her drift away.  At this point, perhaps a poetic end is just to have her absorbed into the TARDIS at some point where she can live on as the only companion in all of the Whoverse that we can accept really will never, ever leave him. 😉

    #24622
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    I love reading the speculations you guys come up with, even though they make my head hurt. *lol*  Sometimes, when I read through the amount of detail you all manage to use to flesh out your theories, I wonder if I’ve just been sleeping through all these episodes or just not paying close enough attention.  I am impressed!

    Unfortunately, I don’t have any fresh perspective or original guesswork to add.  I find the topic of Clara a perplexing one because, as much as I have taken to her, I’ve never been able to convince myself she hasn’t just been a handy plot device and not really given much of an opportunity to have any sort of existence outside very crafted footsteps laid out for the Doctor to follow.  It feels like every detail we ever find out about her is just another clue, that it has to lead to some bigger picture and that the poor girl really is exactly what River said she’d be; an echo with virtually no substance of her own outside how she can be manipulated to be what the Doctor needs her to be.  With that in mind, it almost seems imperative that there be some bigger reveal, that there be more to this character’s story that somehow pulls back the focus and allows us to see the enormity of her and why, after so long, it has been that we’ve only been able to view her in these tiny, little snippets.  Without that further significance, she seems forever doomed to repeat herself over and over again and that’s just not satisfying.  For sentimentality’s sake, I’d love a family connection, I really would.  If they went down that track, I wouldn’t be in the least bit unhappy, but…

    …I can’t shake the feeling that we don’t need to be bogged down in more story arcs.  I’m sure we’ll get them but I don’t know if Capaldi deserves to inherit one.  I want to know more about Clara, I want there to be more to her, but I’m worried about the Doctor remaining a passenger in his own life.  I’d very much love for the return of a grandfather/granddaughter dynamic and I don’t want the storytelling around Clara to leave her stranded as a narrative puppet but part of me does wonder if we’re not just due something entirely fresh.  So I have reservations about my own desires, which is causing a lot of internal arguments but at least means I might be setting myself up to be pleasantly surprised by whatever shape the 8th Series takes!

    I also can’t shake the feeling that the only fitting exit from the show for The Impossible Girl is death.

    Third time’s a charm, right?

    #24006
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    Thanks for the welcome, guys!  And I’m only partway through reading this thread and already my mind is a messy whirl of theories and possibilities.  Exciting!  When I purged myself of my Clara-love in the piece I linked in the last one, I unjustly failed to mention the TARDIS who has, of course, been the ultimate of all companions in a sense.  Then you guys made me excited to see if the writing of the next series actually MAKES anything of this jumble and I am at least hopeful that there is something more to come of the Clara-thing before she’s gone.

    But me, I’m just a hopeless sucker for metaphor, I think.  And broad-sweeping gestures.  And getting access to a bigger-picture Doctor, which was the part of the River story that I enjoyed.  I just hope there’s more significance, I guess, and not that this was just another boy-meets-girl-and-inspires-her-to-save-the-universe theme.

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    Hi guys,

    Just joined the forums, still finding my way around.  Been a Whovian since I was a kid but I guess I never really got into forum culture.

    Anyway!

    Favourite Companions:  Clara, Sarah Jane and Romana

    Worst Companion:  As an Australian, Tegan used to bug the heck out of me.

    Favourite New Series Companion:  http://www.scribd.com/doc/196363691/Why-Clara-Oswald-is-My-Favourite-Companion

     

    Sorry, I couldn’t write a short explanation.  >.>

    Looking forward to next year and now off to read the rest of the forums.

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