• WhoHar replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @bunface @nerys @mudlark

    Who has, of more recent years anyway, been very reluctant to kill anyone (significant) off, most egregiously with Clara, but also Donna and to some extent, the Ponds.

    As soon as we saw Kate L-S dustify followed quickly by the rest of the Unit team, I immediately thought “RTD is going to pull a Last of the Time Lords[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @thane16

    I think it was @bunface who suggested the possibility that the woman in the hooded cloak might not have been Ruby’s mother, and that chimes with the direction of my thinking over the past 24 hours or more. It’s a question of assumptions, led in our case by the way the observed facts were presented.

    The Doctor, who was the only external…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @bunface Oh, I do keep wanting to say that I find the death of death thing intensely maddening. Not only because, as others have said, it’s nonsensical, but beyond that I find any cultural inability to accept death offensive and troubling. So it alarms me that RTD seems to be pushing the idea that we can all live forever, even if he means t…

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  • WhoHar replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @miapatrick

    Thanks for the tips. So basically anywhere, as long as you pick a series. But Night Watch, I’ll start there.

    @ps1l0v3y0u

    Mabinogion

    Ah yes. Thanks. I’ll check it out. Probably some crossover with Irish tales, of which I have a reference text.

    And I saw your comment on the other thread:

    Alf Garnett. Alien Life Form Garnett?…[Read more]

  • WhoHar replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @miapatrick
    I’d not seen that Pratchett-ism before, although I am no expert. I keep meaning to read Discworld but there’s so much of it, I’m not sure where to start.

    @ps1l0v3y0u
    Another writer! I liked Jackson’s LOTR but hated The Hobbit. But even the Hobbit is genius when placed next to that Amazon atrocity.

    And, yeah, agree that Who has never…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @juniperfish and @bunface you both referenced the Spoon.

  • syzygy replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @bunface & @juniperfish yes, I’m thinking which is it?
    If it’s collective wishes emerging from Wild Blue Yonder then why did the Doctor narrate a completely different reason for the return of life itself? That  “ memory is life ?”

    @classicsrule1

    A pedantic friend said that RTD “has the gift of conciseness.”  In rewatching  Before Gap or classic…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic Empire of Death

    Brilliant posts people!

    With the wishes at the end of the universe as @juniperfish elucidated, is it possible this applies to “death to death = life” @bunface you wrote of “2 wrongs don’t make a right.” And @blenkinsopthebrave yes, it seems “stupid” unless it IS connected to the wishes?
    But if that’s so, then wouldn’t the Doctor need to wor…[Read more]

  • blenkinsopthebrave replied to the topic Empire of Death

    @bunface re: the brilliant Eastenders line–no that wasn’t me. It was the incomparable @whohar.

    On the question of Gatwa’s performance that you raised @bunface, when I compare him to Tennant (also not my personal favourite) Gatwa can do charm effortlessly, but I don’t feel he can do anger all that well. Yes, he can scream at the seeming death of…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface yes indeed you did!!

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface @thane16

    Daleks.

    My first reaction on seeing Space Babies was these are Daleks waiting for education and a new chassis.

    Then I riffed on the babies’ journey to a planet that doesn’t really want them. What if deal was done with a third party and they were diverted to a very different world.

    But then if snot-doggo is a projection of Sut…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface

    Your money is on Mrs Flood…

    I have made my case about the woman who is a bit ‘rivery’. Mrs Flood, whoever she is, doesn’t know the blue box but knows what a tardis is, yet she is delighted that someone can escape with The Doctor. Her example would seem to be the One who Waits.

    You doubt if this Amy but virtual reality could create…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface ever notice ears ringing? As you listen to streams or cars passing  -you might have access to a keyboard, guitar, tuning fork -or heck, whistle over a bottle, & you can match the ear ringing to “A” 440 hz. Fun trick. ‘Course, like a lot of tricks, it doesn’t always work 😬

  • syzygy replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface -aw, shucks, thank you – back with my own username. classic radio is fantastic. How you interpret & why it makes sense to you is in keeping with Kramer’s The Hum of the World.
    I liked nine too -the Moffat ep where he beamed? “everybody lives”  & you’re right he said “fantastic.”  He was swaggery doctor. Gatwa has that.

    Edit: I…[Read more]

  • @whohar it’s all good -it’s above under the sons new and independent username: @fanoftom…

    Yes!  “Either Ruby will go through the one at UNIT HQ and end up exiting the TARDIS in the time window, and then find out who left her at the Church. I don’t think she’ll find it’s her mother there and agree that she will have been left by some prescien…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface

    I’m glad it was helpful. One of the great things about this forum is the many different areas of expertise and the different angles which people bring to the discussions.

    Yes, I’m an archaeologist. I started out as a prehistorian, specialising in the Neolithic and early Bronze Age periods in Britain, while at the same time spending…[Read more]

  • Mudlark replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface

    Did you really think it that scary?   I suppose I was treating it like an exercise in field work – visiting, say, the site of an abandoned medieval village or of a monastic precinct, observing and recording all the humps and bumps marking buried remains, identifying them in terms of ditches, walls, buildings and so forth, and trying to i…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @blenkinsopthebrave @bunface

    Mrs Flood… I can’t really add much more to what I’ve said already. But if ‘she’ had been born or transported to the early sixties, ‘she’ would be 60 odd today. Though ‘she’ might have added the odd decade via regeneration to help her get across the pond in 1969. And, yes, in that case she would resorted to Termi…[Read more]

  • ps1l0v3y0u replied to the topic The Legend of Ruby Sunday

    @bunface

    “the doctor being a coward?”

    I have invoked Doc 5 in comparison…

    ‘what do we DO Doctor??’

    ’Ah! Give ourselves up I suppose… by the way, Mr Ruthless Badass, we ARE quite innocent.’

    ‘Hmmm? What’s that? Oh yeah. Tough.’

    An unfortunate production decision: the universe vs The Doctor: not done that before. Next up we’ll turn him into a…[Read more]

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