• Juniperfish replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick  I felt as though the 7% not human DNA was a big part of Barton’s coldness here.

    Yes, true. But there was a bit of an odd discrepancy there, as Barton seemed fully intellectually functioning with his 7% alien DNA (if not morally) but others “infected” with the alien DNA became simply “shells” and “memory sticks”, like his poor old M…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @Mudlark

    I agree that the element of ‘melodrama villain’ seems more conscious in this Master. Doctor Who is melodrama (in a technical sense), but Sacha Dhawan seems to be doing the melodramatic villain as if it’s now an act the Master’s putting on for an audience. The top hat. The Nazi uniform. The scene in the plane hangar when his ‘I’m going to…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick Having now watched it, I think this may well be a post Missy incarnation. When the Dhawan Master talks about the buzz that killing gives him, then adds that he knows ‘I’m in the right place, doing what I was made for’ – the look in his eyes is completely haunted.

    He may also be referring to the Timeless Child reveal, that he’s…[Read more]

  • MissRori replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick Well…Thirteen’s previous incarnation ended up on pretty unhappy terms with the Time Lords, and they likely weren’t going to welcome outsiders on her world anyway.  Why bring up people they were never going to meet?  The Master’s really the only person she has from that world out there so work with.

    Especially given that this set o…[Read more]

  • MissRori replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick Yeah, I think the idea was that the Kasaavin were just trying to find warm bodies to colonize, and our unused data (for all our intelligence) made us particularly desirable.  Actually, I was reminded of “The Unquiet Dead” way back in Series 1.

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    Ooh, it is nice being able to theorise about non-character arcs again. Mind you, Chibbers is a character driven writer, so my current bonkers theory is kind of character driven.

    It’s noticeable that a lot of people seem to be picking up that the Dhawan Master is somehow not entirely what he should be. There was a lot of ‘is he helping the…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick. Once again: Loved what you wrote.

    How could he take a bunch of humans calling themselves a master race seriously?

    I found Whittaker’s performance here brilliant. When the Master makes her kneel. When she asks “what do you want?” Chills. Her pacing was superlative & the direction of both parts was beautifully done though a few edit…[Read more]

  • syzygy replied to the topic Spyfall part 1

    @miapatrick. Amazing really. I agree: loads of clues -even the unhinged quality, combined with “it’s very interesting but inconsistencies…” was loud and clear! Didn’t even think that far in…or off….or when…! Love what you wrote here:

    And finally, he fooled her into a fake friendship because they were friends.

     

  • Devilishrobby replied to the topic Spyfall part 2

    @miapatrick maybe they are. The Doctor admits she and the Master are very old friends who went in divergent paths. In fact as revealed in the BG story The 5 Doctors the early timelords were evil and cruel enough to create the death zone as gladiatorial form of entertainment so twisted individuals like the master are not unknown to the timelord…[Read more]

  • @juniperfish

    I’m inclined to agree about Mina, although I think you’re right that it was more to do with simplifying the structure of a story which – in true style of its era – was a tad prone to wandering about the houses.

    But I think Lucy was more of a metaphor for internet attention seekers – with their coterie of admirers (per @miapatrick[Read more]

  • @pedant @fatmaninabox @miapatrick

    Oh good, we are discussing Moffat and Gatiss’ Dracula!

    I said this on T’Other Place, after seeing Part 3:

    “I think it played with the source material quite beautifully (“bloofer lady”) and found a way to incarnate the Victorian gothic themes of sublimated carnality, purity, corruption and death into the…[Read more]

  • Devilishrobby replied to the topic Spyfall

    @miapatrick that was why good was in “”. Yes she was nicer to the Doctor towards the end and yes she did eventually side with the Doctor at the end, but as you indicated it was in a very amoralistic and practical manner to the point it was difficult to see a difference between “good”Missy and evil Missy at times. The core self-centred ego…[Read more]

  • @Pedant

    Another easter egg: the ward Zoe was in was ward AD 72.

    Yep, I noticed that too but forgot to mention it. By the time I remembered it was too late to edit my post.

    @miapatrick

    Thanks for confirming what I heard even though I attributed it to the wrong character.

    On Sunday nights at 9pm, Talking Pictures (freeview 81) have been showing…[Read more]

  • Cody Stott replied to the topic Spyfall

    @miapatrick @badwolfalice

    @ollie14

    What if this actually isn’t our master at all, but a master from another reality, considering these episodes are clearly about beings from another dimension. The master could just be a front runner leading his army behind him.

  • Arbutus replied to the topic Spyfall

    Well, this was fun. 🙂  I think Dhawan is doing a great job with the Master so far. I guessed nothing (although I did wonder why O seemed to smile so much!). I’d prefer the Master to be post-Missy, because I like forward motion and anything else would be a little too much like overwriting a lot of great character development. But we shall see. I…[Read more]

  • IAmNotAFishIAmAFreeMan replied to the topic Spyfall

    @idiotsavon

    Anyway, is there something wrong with my computer? Where are all the posts from new members who signed up to complain about diverse casting?

    I think they just sent a representative.

    SJW whinge: check

    Cuck: Check

    Erratic punctuation: Check

    Poor anger management: check

    Inability to get laid: implicit.

    @miapatrick @cathannabel

    I…

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  • Ollie14 replied to the topic Spyfall

    @miapatrick @badwolfalice

    Interesting debate guys. I’m with you, think it would make more sense if this incarnation of the Master is inbetween Simms and Missy purely because his characteristics and personality seem more aligned to Simms.

    Apart from Missy almost being converted to good in The Doctor Falls and Dhawan’s incarnation being so des…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Spyfall

    @miapatrick and @badwolfalice

    Another possible suggestion is that this Master does come after Missy, but ‘everything you know is a lie’ includes what he’s doing right now. Not my idea – someone on T’Other place suggested it.

    I think either is possible – a few people have noted that the Dhawan Master seems very much riffing off the Simm Master’s…[Read more]

  • BadWolfAlice replied to the topic Spyfall

    @miapatrick That’s a good point, I thought it was a bit unusual for the Master to directly try to kill the Doctor in this way. It would definitely make sense for him to be angry with the Doctor if he comes directly after Simm’s Master, as you say.

    Now I may be wrong but I think Time Lords do remember meeting their past selves, just not their…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic The Kebab & Calculator

    @miapatrick. I hope at least that your candidate wins. Having a good local MP is a benefit. We have been fortunate here to have a local state MP who consistently polls well regardless of how the party fares because he has won so much respect locally. Right now however he has a fight on his hands as Labor is in opposition and our electorate is…[Read more]

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