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    @bluesqueakpip

    You could well be right, because I’ve not seen the Avengers movie, and only caught the end of Silver Surfer on TV. I just remembered the climax had the heroes in London saving the London Eye after it starts to topple over, and the storm clouds gathering as Galactus is summoned, and made a guess at that one.

    Weirdly – the movie was released in 2007 so with Runaway Bride showing the Christmas before, that was twice the Thames was drained in a short space of time [Shakes fist at inconvenient aliens 🙂 ]

    Really enjoyed the clip though. As you said, lots of fun with the Doctor Who clips.

    I was trying to place the clip of what looked like King Kong next to Big Ben. If it is Kong, I don’t remember that version at all.

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    @blenkinsopthebrave

    I love The Bed Sitting Room.

    Well, that’s me and thee. Now to convince the rest of the Earth!

    I saw it as a teenager in the early years of Channel 4, and just couldn’t get over the cast. C4 used to do great retrospectives of films that can only be described as “odd” – so stuff like Britannia Hospital (which was probably the most recent then) , Zardoz, Twisted Nerve and Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer. Absolutely flawed, bonkers and definitely idiosyncratic movies – a real education.

    These days they have a dedicated movie channel, FilmFour, but probably wouldn’t feature any of them. A real shame.

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    @bluesqueakpip @janetteb

    That is a really well put together promo. I love it!

    I think for 9 days later, you probably meant 28 days later? (the shot of Cillian Murphy in hospital gown in front of Parliament?).

    A lot of the ‘tac displays and the overhead shots of the napalming of the streets come from its sequel 28 weeks later.

    I think the shot of the London Eye as clouds gather at the start may have been from Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

    There are a couple of shots from American Werewolf in London.

    The shot of people scrabbling on a “beach” with a submerged St. Pauls dome in the background is from Richard Lester’s black satire The Bed-Sitting Room from the year I was born, 1969. A film few have seen (and can be quite difficult to fully love) but it’s worth a view for the cast alone.

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    @blenkinsopthebrave

    The Young Ones was possibly the sole topic of conversation at school when it started (I was just turning 13). Such a big thing, and later I was lucky enough to be robustly told to f**k off by Rik at no less than 7 great theatres in the UK for various live shows (mainly Bottom and New Statesman).

    I don’t know if you ever saw a TV prog called Jackanory, but he did a barmstorming reading/performance of Roald Dahl’s George’s Marvellous Medicine. I was a student at the time and watched it with my parents and my niece who was about six, and everyone laughing their heads off.

    The entire thing is here, (pictures not great, it was in the days of VHS).

    #28147
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    As you get older you can get used to deaths of people you like and, in many cases, it doesn’t come as a surprise. This isn’t one of them, and I’m gutted to say Rik Mayall died today.

    Anyway, here he is, making an entrance like nobody else could. You had to be good to scene steal from this crowd:

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    @arbutus – It’s one hell of a story to be introduced to Doctor Who through, isn’t it? I think in DWM it topped the old series in a poll to find the story you’d recommend to actually get people into it.

    I think @jimthefish mentioned the ratings. There was a strike over at ITV at the time, which certainly helped, but the ratings were something like 14-16 million.

    @janetteb

    Yeah, the Fourth Doctor in Paris just works on a fundamental level for me as well. It’s funny when you see them get a curious look on the streets as they are running around. I don’t think they could have pulled that off in the UK. Tom Baker would have just been mobbed.

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    @bluesqueakpip @jimthefish @wolfweed

    Le-definitely-not-taking-Romana-on-a-date, honestly. It was the randomiser. Really, it was the randomiser.

    it’s almost palpable that the two of them are on the verge of knocking each other off at this point

    A ‘dirty’ weekend in Paris.

    Yep – it passed me by as a nipper, but rewatching the episodes with Lalla later, there is an increasing strand of “dates gone wrong” to the stories. So in something like Nightmare on Eden, they sort out a hyperspace crash they come across which just happens to have occurred around a very famous pleasure planet.

    It continues throughout, and it’s a shame Shada wasn’t finished. But even the footage that was used in the Five Doctors (the Doctor punting Romana along while she relaxes) just screams “Romantic Date”.

    When you get to the start of The Leisure Hive on Brighton beach, you can’t help feeling the Doctors fugue is largely down to “It keeps going wrong!”.

    @wolfweed mentioning the design of the ship made me remember that I always thought the exterior design of the Timeship of the Lodger was a bit of a call-out to it.

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    Ahhh. The story of a book. Or is it the overall story of the film of the graphic novel of the computer game of the TV series of stage show of the book of the record of the radio screenplay? There are so many versions of Hitchhikers.

    Even though I heard most of the first radio broadcast (I missed the first part, and it was a big “word-of-mouth” thing at School) and enjoyed the other versions, somehow this, for me, is the definitive version.

    Why? I think this first episode gives most of the answers. The theme music, carried forward and expanded from the Radio show is guaranteed to bring back happy memories. It’s really distinctive, and just seemed very unusual at the time.

    Then we have Peter Jones as Narrator and Voice of the book. The calm authoritative tones that scream “Don’t Panic”. Just lovely as he delivers some of the most absurd explanations ever devised.

    Simon Jones just is Arthur Dent. Our hero is parochial, closed down and possibly a bit small minded. That mind is about to be opened up.

    Some people were upset with David Dixons casting as Ford Prefect, but I think he works well in this. Examine Ford. I mean – the dress sense is truly appalling isn’t it? Even for that period in the UK, it’s extreme. Everything clashes.

    Ford is the lofty knowledgeable one guiding the ape descended lifeform around his world, and possibly delighting in baffling him. He has a dismissive attitude to guns. Ford is practically the Doctor. Even when he was first written a large amount of the fourth Doctor appeared in him. It’s easy to see why Adams scored the Script Editorship of Doctor Who based on his radio show. It would seem a natural compliment to Tom Bakers interpretation.

    Seeing Joe Melia as Mr Prosser (head of the demolitions team) has reminded me that I was going to write something about A Very Peculiar Practice for the Peter Davison rewatch. He seemed to crop up a lot in oddly pitched comedic roles. I think he just had that face and mannerisms. In Peculiar Practice he was Ron Rust, a satirical TV writer who was driven a bit odd. No matter how absurd his latest script was, actual events overtook them.

    Above all though, it’s the visual aspect of the book. The computer graphics painstakingly animated still have never been bettered. They take the words and expand on them throwing in bizarre little jokes of their own. Its wonderful work. You look at the Babel Fish sequence and its astonishing.

    Some of the visual effects look dated, but hell – still pretty impressive for the time. I love how they keep referring to the Vogon ships as flying saucers, when they bloody well aren’t saucers!

    Cleo Rocos who appears as the silver alien drinking the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster was really familiar to me at the time through work on the Kenny Everett shows. I love the sequence with the Vogon food. Of course it tastes appalling. It looks like a desiccated blue turd covered in mushy peas!

    A lot of the jokes railing against the bureaucracies (the location of the planning documentation) probably passed me by on first watching, but the comparisons are really well done. As some of my work involves the Planning Process on occasion, the legal right to view can certainly be “stretched” by certain authorities when it suits them.

    Any similarities between Oolon Colluphid and Richard Dawkins exist entirely in your own imagination when it was first written. Some may say though that Dawkins (who is married to Lalla Ward) wouldn’t exist without the inspiration of Colluphids output. 😉

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    @craig

    Just on Julian Glover, did you see the “In search of Beowulf” documentary on BBC4 a year or so ago? It featured extracts with Julian performing it (which I think he does regularly). There is a link to it here if anyone’s interested.

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    Personally, I’m on the side of “absolute classic” when it comes to City of Death. I think it’s great.

    A lot of it is down to the chemistry between the Doctor and Romana. While I enjoyed Mary Tamms Romana I, I don’t think she may have worked in the overall scheme of her “arc”, which was to convert Romana from the cold, haughty Time Lady to something more like the Doctor, picking up his quirks. Lalla was ideal for that part of her story.

    It was the first bit of major foreign location work done in Who, and it’s a bit of genius dropping Tom’s peculiar bohemian into Paris. The one thing you do notice is there are lots of establishing shots, overheads and scenery which the series didn’t often do, but you can excuse it to a certain extent. What’s the point of going to Paris if you’re not going to show it?

    I love Dudley Simpsons score for this, and it was great to hear it last year in the Medley of BG tunes at the Prom.

    The dialogue crackles as well. I love the scene on the Eiffel Tower.

    Romana Shall we take the lift or fly?
    Doctor Let’s not be ostentatious.
    Romana All right… let’s fly, then.
    Doctor That would look silly… we’ll take the lift.

    Julian Glover is great in even minor roles, and always seems to be a commanding presence. His Count here is playful but with an underlying hardness. Catherine Schell as the Countess was familiar to me as a kid because she was in Space 1999 as the shapeshifter.

    So weird alien in a barren landscape, art thefts, fraud, and time jumps. It all seems to be linked to the Count, so what’s his game? All of a sudden – off with his head! Or his face at least.

    Even as a kid, I can remember thinking “Man – he’s batting WAY above average in pulling Catherine Schell with a mug like that”. I take it the marriage wasn’t consummated? 😀

    #28112
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    @wolfweed @craig

    Yes, thanks @wolfweed. I got as far as the uploading and then was distracted by a delivery of groceries.

    #28106
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    I think Gridlock is my favourite RTD episode so far in the retrospective. Rewatching it isn’t a chore, it’s a joy.

    Smith and Jones was a good intro for Martha, and following it up with The Shakespeare Code and this made for a good strong start for the character.

    The script bubbles along, and there isn’t really a still point, or anything superfluous in it. The guest cast is great – Lenora Critchlow (beating fellow Being Human costar Russell Tovey to appear in Who), Ardal O’Hanlon, but above all Anna Hope returning as Novice Hame, obviously having a whale of a time as the gun totting feline nun (a phrase you can’t really type enough times).

    I said in the rewatch of New Earth that the prosthetics and makeup on the cats was wonderful, and I’ll repeat it here.

    Ardal is fun as Brannigan, but he just has such a distinctive voice. When he gives the obligatory “oh Doctor, aren’t you great line”:

    Valerie: He’s completely insane.
    Brannigan: That. And a bit magnificent.

    My mind can’t help remixing the audio so I get:

    Valerie: He’s completely insane.
    Father Dougal: Yes Ted, just look at that great fecking idjit!

    The Macra was a bizarre little “thing to be avoided” to include, but it still gave me a bit of a fanboy thrill. The Doctors race to the bottom leaping from car to car is a great swaggering sequence.

    It’s funny, I was listening to one of those Splendid Chaps podcasts on Religion in Doctor Who, and this episode was cited as a good strong positive portrayal of faith in the show. It’s curious that I’ve heard this a few times, but I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. Yes, the inhabitants of the Motorway take comfort and community in their faith, but it leaves them going round and round in circles on the Motorway. Unengaged and relatively unquestioning. It requires an outsider to intervene and lead them into the light, so that the meek can inherit the New New Earth. We’re back to the Doctor as God again aren’t we? Still – great choice of hymns in Abide with Me and The Old Rugged Cross.

    It’s still massive fun, and the You Are Not Alone sequence was very tantalising. The end point, with the Doctor telling Martha the truth about Gallifrey is really well played as well.

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    I wrote a blog to accompany this, which discusses the comic 2000AD and some of the callouts made in Gridlock to it. It may sound weird, and you may have little interest in comics in general, but 2000AD has been a huge influence on sci-fi storytelling over the years, influencing Russell & Andrew Cartmel amongst others. It’s here.

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    @wolfweed

    A Doctor Who spatula?! Please tell me they aren’t going to do a range of Doctor Who labware. It’ll cost me a fortune! 😀

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    @bluesqueakpip

    besides, I’ve gone and bought the DVD now.

    It has a lot to offer though. Bizarrely, thorough an unlikely error, I find I now have two copies of City of Death on DVD (one of which Amazon will not accept). I think I’m going to have to devise some fiendish competition so that someone else can win it.

    All suggestions to the usual address, etc. …

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    @thekrynoidman

    While acknowledging your vote, I note that @the4thsera has logged in with a DA avatar and still couldn’t be arsed to vote for the Deadly Assassin.

    I fear dull Time Lords are about to be cast aside for Lalla Ward in a schoolgirl outfit.

    Come on. You KNOW that makes sense. 😀

    #28045
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    @fatmaninabox @janetteb

    That is actually quite weird. I may have to retire to change my undergarments.

    #28044
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    @jacobrjmorrison

    Probably because i feel like series two was my favorite out of David Tennant’s reign. It was a bittersweet, melancholic end to my first doctor/companion team. A fine ending for such a great journey. I wonder as I write this what everyone else would think in comparing Army of Ghosts/Doomsday with The Angels Take Manhattan. It seems to be a habit with me to compare 10 and 11′s similar experinces.

    I don’t, necessarily, feel the need to compare them.

    For me it’s evolution of storytelling. Could you tell the same story twice?

    This is powerful, but – Rose cast a long shadow over the next two series and specials. Rejection of Martha in series 3. Anticipation of return in Series 4. The “surprise end” of the specials. I think that extended experience undermined the power of this story.

    In comparison, Angels take Manhattan is practically a Guillotine, severing 11 from his admiring audience, provoking a sulk, forcing him back into a state of being for 7B. It’s a different approach to the same story, with a small cameo at the end of TotD from Amy/Ameila to explain the latest character of the Doctor. I prefer the Moffat version, but the RTD one was served first, and is still tasty. In a McDonald’s Breakfast sort of way.;-)

    For me, whatever the faults, the best of RTD is to come in Series 3 and 4. Episodes like Smith and Jones, Gridlock, Utopia, Partners in Crime, Midnight, Turn Left, etc….

    #27967
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    @bluesqueakpip

    We can never get enough of your diagrams, you know that.

    However, I need to keep a clear head for an early start tomorrow, so I shall absorb it on Thursday when I’m back and can inbibe brain lubrication. 😀

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    @scaryb

    Ahhh .. the G’s development team and its “improvements”. In anticipation of next week, I’ll paraphrase Marvin and ask:

    “Why stop now – just when I’m hating it?” 😉

    @tbird7702

    No problem, and if you watch them, I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts. We publish new episodes on Saturdays (so – Tom Baker next).

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    @rejetto

    Hi, and welcome to the site. Probably the best place is on our Fan Creativity thread, which is a good central place to highlight your own work, or that of other people that you are recommending. You can find it here:

    http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/general-thread-fan-creativity/page/14/

    Must dash off to the shops, so will catch your video later.

    #27932
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    @tbird7702 @Rint

    Welcome to the site. We’re relatively new as a site and have an ongoing project for revisiting stories, which we do on a week by week basis for episodes. These were voted on to highlight Doctors and periods to newer watchers. The BG (or “classic” page). I suppose the benefit of watching some of these suggestions is that you could read the comments from established watchers who talk about why they like (or sometimes dislike) the episodes. So far we have:

    An Unearthly Child and Time Meddler for the First Doctor, which shows a good transition from unknown slightly sinister alien to something more recognisable.

    Tomb of the Cybermen and Mind Robber for the Second Doctor. You get to see “old” cybermen and something remarkably different with Mind Robber.

    Terror of the Autons and Day of the Daleks for the Third Doctor. Introduction of the Master in the first, and you’ll see comments in the activity thread for Day of the Daleks Episode 4.

    We’ve covered Talons of Weng Chiang for Doctor four, and next week I looks like we will be starting City of Death.

    Five we’re covered Caves of Androzani, an absolute must and his swansong. We’ve yet to decide on the next episode.

    Doctor Six appears at the end of Androzani, and it looks like we are covering him in Vengeance on Varos. If you’re looking for a second story try Revelation of the Daleks.

    Doctor Seven we covered Ghost Light, which can divide people. We’re probably looking at Curse of Fenric later in the year. Add in Remembrance of the Daleks.

    #27931
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    Definitely a great end to a real Pertwee highlight.

    I’ll repeat the praise for Aubrey Woods from @scaryb. His change from chief collaborator to standing in front of his masters to be exterminated doesn’t seem forced at all, because we’ve seen indications of doubt in the previous episode.

    That’s a great video snippet from @craig on the timey wimeyness of the Paradox from SM. I think it’s also had a lasting impact on RTD. The Controllers satisfaction at confounding his masters in the face of extermination is mirrored by the Controller of the Game station in Bad Wolf (and let’s remember – that future had deviated from what the Doctor knew as a result of Time War Paradox). The nature of the temporal paradox engineered to produce a false future of domination was repeated for the Master in the new Series 3. Louis Marx may not have been that regular a writer, but if any story has lasting impact, this one does.

    I think its therefore fitting for the makeover of the special edition. It addresses the points the cast and crew had about the production, and it deserves it, because the underlying story is just so strong. It doesn’t really matter if, like @thekrynoidman, you find the new stuff distracting. Both old and new versions are available. I’m in a similar position to @bluesqueakpip, I think, in finding the new editing, voices and effects make a positive virtue of the concept of revisiting footage in a complementary way. It really is well done.

    Shame that as @scaryb and @janetteb say, the limits of technology prevent us from turning Sir Reginald into anything other than a cardboard cut-out. I think one of the problems with Government officials in this period (of whom Pertwee met a lot, to allow him to vent his anger at Time Lord substitutes) was that they were a pretty lacklustre bunch. Still – we can’t have everything, and it may have some element of truth in it. 😉

    #27910
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    @bluesqueakpip – agree with your points (and your comment on the blog was duly recommended), and @jimthefish, you’ll note I was in a similar state of I-don’t-care. 😀

    Just on the Guardian though, for those who still contribute. By the time the series blogs come back you will likely be dealing with the new “Beta” layout and comment system that their aiming towards mobile usage. I don’t know if @craig is interested from a tech perspective. If you want to look at it, there is a page discussing “improvements” to the system here:

    http://www.theguardian.com/info/developer-blog/2014/may/29/-sp-improving-the-beta-commenting-experience

    It may save culture shock later in the year. 😀

    #27906
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    I actually enjoyed rewatching this much more than I did the other two series openers, Rose and New Earth.

    Like Rose, we’re introduced to Martha through a sweeping shot of her in normal life, and the episode follows the template Rose set by presenting virtually all the action from her perspective.

    @bluesqueakpip deals with a lot of the issues I have with the shape of Martha’s story above, but I’ll probably specifically talk about that in later episodes. We’ll actually miss some of the low points (for me) this series in an RTD specific retrospective, but a large amount of the unrequited attraction angle was the problem. I did like the end of her season as a resolution to that problem though. At this point (Smith and Jones), I can’t fault both Freema and Martha.

    Yes, she has a family, but she’s obviously distanced from them to some extent (i.e. not living with them – hence the phone catchup). The family obviously has pressure points and she’s presented as the big sister/peacemaker to the various factions. She’s a trainee Doctor, and hence a bit more directed and centred than Rose was when we first met her. Tennant is great in this as well – the bizarre show off with charm turned to the max. I love some of the asides in the hospital bed and the cheeky grin while Martha tries to listen to the heartbeat. The scenes post-transport as the Doctor recognises her analytical skills and calmness in a crises are well done. Martha is independently minded, willing to give him lip (“you have to earn that title as far as I’m concerned” “Better get started then”) and doesn’t run away screaming at his oddity. She’s natural companion material!

    Lots more stuff become memorable. “Oooh – you’ve got a little shop” follows on from New Earth. Ultimately, the sequence where the Doctor pretends to be a bit of an idiot in front of the plasmavore always makes me laugh. “Come home, meet the wife. She’d be honoured. We can have cake!”

    The RTD scripts in this series had some real callouts to Comics. I’m preparing a blog for Gridlock next week that looks at this, but the Jadoon – Intergalactic Police who are Judge, Jury and Executioner deserve a mention at this stage because there is a lot of the Mega-City One Judges (Judge Dredd) from 2000AD in them. “Justice is Swift”, indeed. 🙂 There is a good reason for this – 2000AD saw its 30th anniversary in the year Series 3 was broadcast, and the worlds of 2000AD and Doctor Who have a history of off the page interaction.

    No, Smith and Jones is just fun. Full stop. Lots to chew over with the Saxon references and an overall storyline that screams “Mad as a box of Frogs”. Judoon Platoon on the Moon. Apparently Russell wrote that line specifically because when Tennant met any word with the elongated “-ooon” at the end, he had a hard job of maintaining the accent and lapsed into his own. As a writer, Russell could apparently be a real mischievous bugger.

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    @thekrynoidman

    Sorry – I’ve not read the Peter Hook book. I’ve tended to avoid music biographies because they can ruin some happy memories. I’ll agree with you in that I think Curtis was the damaged soul of Joy Division, and responsible for much of the sound trying to replicate it without him would be pointless.

    @whisht

    UNKLE always interesting (though haven’t listened to them for ages)

    UNKLE were new to me with that track, and I’m still exploring them (must have passed me by first time around). I’ve come to that stage in life when new music is introduced to me either through use in TV progs or via this thread! I may be a decade or so out on some stuff, but there are worse quality controls. 🙂

    I was quite impressed by some of the guest vocalists. Mark Lanegan, for instance, I remember in Screaming Trees. They got lumped into that entire “grunge” thing, when really they weren’t. I still love Butterfly (although after my ramblings on time, I’ll assure people it has nothing to do with chaos theory).

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    On the G as well – Has Doctor Who become more sexist?

    They use data from an American Bechdel test between RTD and SM to ultimately conclude….well, I dunno. Mens. Probably.

    #27876
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    I won’t post the same message as before, because the people I named will probably have received an e-mail alert, but thanks to all for the feedback on HitchHikers.

    Talking of which, there was an article on a new forthcoming biography of Adams in the Guardian the other day, which I’ve just caught up on. It promises some lost material (yes -even more after Salmon of Doubt), but I think I’ll stick to Neil Gaiman’s look at Adams in Don’t Panic.

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    @craig

    Sorry to hear that. I was on that night, earlier in the evening and may have lost a couple of comments (no great loss to the world, I’m the first to admit).

    Didn’t seem to see any unusual activity earlier on, but I was in bed before 11 I think.

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    Just on the Baker vote, when I was going over all the old posts to summarise the suggestions, I also came across a suggestion by @wolfweed that I’d thought I’d bring up again.

    If, as it looks, we go for City of Death, would anyone be interested in a communal watch of Douglas Adams best known work – Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (a bit like our watch of Quatermass and the Pit)?

    At 6 episodes, it’s longer than City of Death, but the overlap into Peter Davison may be beneficial because he makes a, well, unusual appearance in one of the later episodes.

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    @jimthefish

    Good to see his cutting back on his wine consumption too.

    I know – after episode 1 I found myself wondering what colour his kidneys were. 😀

    Some of those little illustrations in the early Target Books were great for scene setting. I guess they thought it would make the range look a bit more grown up without them, but when you’d never seen the episodes they were great. From memory, most were pretty faithful to what was on the screen.

    I’ll add to your and @scaryb s praise for Woods as the controller as well. On the one hand a servant of the Daleks, but his expression when confronted by the Doctor’s goading (and walking out) indicates someone with some pretty deep conflicts.

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    I think it was @janetteb who said the pre-expectations or familiarity with comedy performers can have a detrimental effect on your enjoyment of them in Who, and I’d agree. I approached this originally with some trepidation based on her own sketch show (some of which was good, some of which made my ears bleed).

    At first we seemed to be in full “ear-bleeding” territory, but what’s interesting is that I could live with that quite easily. In many ways the early scenes are a good shake up for the programme after the very settled companionship that Rose had latterly provided. Tennants mixture of curiosity and growing exasperation is key to this for me.

    What really impresses though are some of the later scenes. As a pointer to what Donna was to become, I think this is the actor informing the writer about how to take a character. You look at Tennant and Tate on top of the roof as they are both a bit dejected, the relationship as they begin to work together, her talking down the Doctor, and a great bit of downplaying as she invites him to dinner at the end, and it screams “this works” at you. I’m not surprised RTD said he felt like doing cartwheels when she said yes to series 4. Donna worked.

    The story works – lots of fun for Christmas, with hints at darkness. Sarah Parish obviously going for broke as the Empress. I love the flashback scenes as Donna pursues Lance with her exuberance bordering on mania. Don Gilet as Lance really conveys complete overwhelmed terror well in that.

    Oh – and doesn’t that madcap chase between the Taxi and TARDIS bring out your inner child to punch the air? It’s really ambitious, and they pull it off magnificently.

    And just who is this Mr. Saxon fellow?!

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    In many ways, I think Episode 3 sets out to do a little too much and, while its nice to see the pace surge forward, I think that’s why elements like the chase on the trike come over as a little contrived (as @scaryb and @bluesqueakpip say). The Target novelisation (because it could afford the visuals) made it all sound a little more exciting with Ogrons on trikes as well. I will say the SE recut makes it a bit more visually engaging with disintegrator bolts whizzing around.

    As @arbutus says, I think Pertwee is great in the scene against the Controller here. Unlike Jo, he’s witnessed the brutality of the future world and he knows the Daleks are in the mix. It’s a pointed, but almost guarded approach he takes to goading the Controller.

    It has all the elements of an “under occupation” vision. You have the collaborators like the Controller and the guards. You have the plucky resistance and their double agents. I mentioned that early drafts of the story had suggested the Master as the foe in the future, and you can easily imagine Delgado strutting about this future world in full Dictator mode. When you consider this, it’s easy to see the comparison with the future at the end of AG Series 3 in The Last of the Time Lords.

    That said, this vision suits the Daleks as it has their grubby sucker prints all over it for what the Daleks were. Enslaving worlds, using other species as slaves, then working them to death with occasional exterminations. When you look at the Controllers female assistants in the control room there is an air of Robotisation about them (from Dalek Invasion of Earth).

    I did smile when the Controller questions the effectiveness of the Ogrons against the rebels though. I would have paid good money to hear him say.

    “Your Gorillas aren’t up to fighting the Guerrillas”

    I would have liked to have seen more of a build up of the mental probe to confirm the Doctors identity, but it’s still a great cliffhanger. It’s the Doctor! With the first and second Doctor in the background! Who can save him now!?

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    @blenkinsopthebrave

    Just to follow that up. Eleanor in full flow at the Amnesty gigs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcTNWehOn5I

    And a hearty recommend for her pregnancy. (it’s a balloon, Penelope)

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    @rob

    Good luck with the walk Rob, and you’re a hero for attempting it to be honest.

    Shortly after I was born my mother was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis (late 30s) and then combined (as it was called) with osteo, and it’s so easy to disregard the words “arthritis” with someone much older. The pain she suffered was incredible, and I can barely comprehend the effort this will take at Stage II/III. I think she became a bit paranoid about my health because of it. Largely because she was convinced she’d pass it to me, after seeing children in hospital diagnosed with it.

    Therefore you had my wholehearted support at Arthritis Research UK in your list (the first one – I’m facile). Get those links to fundraising up, my man! And – if in pain, at least, try enjoy the scenery (as my mum used to say).

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    The G has featured a couple of stories on Vikings recently, and I thought I’d mention it because we talked about depictions of them in Time Meddler.

    As some of you may have witnessed in my inane ramblings with @juniperfish, I have a love of Norse mythology, so I watched this, and my experience was similar to Orphan Black. A bit bemused at the start, but rapidly becoming engrossed in it.

    I’ve watched both series so far (it’s being shown on the History Channel on Sky apparently) and it’s become a minor joy. Although I love the mythology, my sense of history about that time is shaky to say the least. I do know people who are really into that period though, and I’ll talk about what they say.

    Ragnar in a rare smile – on a boat.

    It’s largely about Ragnar Lothbrok, a warrior in his ascendance, and a recorded (given the time) historical figure. In terms of history, you can cheerfully lob boulders through the holes as key events are absorbed into his assumed timeline. A student of that era could happily fixate on them for eons.

    However, the actual depiction of what the Vikings (and their counterparts in what is now the UK) were is actually pretty accurate, allowing us possibly the best glimpse into the people, pressures and societies that existed around that period. Swings and roundabouts to present a cohesive and engaging plot.

    Some of the comparisons between the barbarian hordes and the lands they invade are quite adroitly done. A strand of the episodes in series 2 sees the Vikings decline to sacrifice someone to their gods because he does not believe in them (apparently – a real thing). The Christians of the new land are quite happy to crucify him as an unbeliever (also, apparently – a real thing). This comparison between belief systems, their clash and merger seem to be an ongoing theme. There is no good and bad – just philosophies, with some of the most powerful on either side beguiled by each others.

    It has violence, but not too bloody. It has sex, but not the fairly obvious viewer pandering and sexposition that turned me off GoT.

    Ultimately it has Gustaf Skarsgård as Floki, a boatbuilder and frankly demented ally of Ragnar.

    Look at him – it’s Keith Flint from the Prodigy! He’s a Firestarter, twisted firestarter!

    I look forward to series 3 with anticipation, and heartily recommend it.

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    @blenkinsopthebrave

    Purely by coincidence, I’ve watched the original Pete ‘n’ Dud version of Bedazzled recently, and Eleanor’s appearance in a couple of the Amnesty gigs and I am very well disposed to her.

    In fact, I think when it comes to Colin Baker I am going to re-open nominations, because she was in Revelation of the Daleks as Kara, and although Vengeance on Varos seemed to be a done deal, it can’t hinder us to check!

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    @dispositionmatrix

    Hi, and welcome from the UK. As to the question you posted on another thread:

    New to the forums. Is there a general Doctor How Speculation/Wishlist not specific to Series 8?

    What do you wish to speculate on?

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    Thank you all for nominations received so far.

    @craig – for someone who is busy, you had a surprisingly adept catalogue of stories nominated. 😉 Glad to hear the light at the end of the tunnel is approaching.

    @janetteb – Absolutely vote for a choice. Last month, @jimthefish asked the same thing, as Pertwee isn’t his favourite. But, you never know if your time will be more available in the future, so you may as well vote for something you’d want to watch. Although his choice didn’t win, I think Jim has enjoyed Day of the Daleks.

    Collating those suggested in the past, and current ones, I’ll give a run down of stories for Tom. All others are on the table though.

     

    Story (Episodes) Notes
    Ark in Space (4) First trip off-world for Tom. Thrills! Spills! Boggling!* Sarah Jane and Harry battling giant insects! A SE with less wobbly space station shots!
    Sontaran Experiment (2) Thrills! Spills! Short! Sarah Jane and Harry meet a Sontaran. Who’s not as cuddly as Strax!
    Genesis of the Daleks (6) Probably the most written about stories of Doctor Who EVAH! Thrills! Spills! Harry puts his foot in it! I could probably knock up comprehensive episode reviews without even watching!
    Pyramids of Mars (4) Thrills! Spills! Become a plaything of Sutekh, an alien with delusions of godhood! Sarah Jane is Sarah Connors!
    The Deadly Assassin (4) Thrills! Spills! Really dull Time Lords!! A cliffhanger that sent Mary Whitehouse into meltdown!
    The Robots of Death (4) Thrills! Kills! Robots! Louise Jamieson in a leather bikini! (now – now @phaseshift – MrsPhaseshift)
    City of Death (4) Thrills! Spills! Paris! Douglas Adams! John Cleese and Eleanor Bron! Julian Glover! Lalla Ward in a schoolgirl outfit!! (That’s quite enough – MrsPhaseShift)

    * Boggling – A term much used in official spin-off fiction to indicate Tom Bakers facial expression.

    Robots of Death was my choice, but as much as I love it, I think a companion other than Leela would be right this time. Genesis I could talk about in my sleep, and I would probably be a little bored (heresy, I know). I’m fine with all the others though.

    Translating the results so far, I get (and people are free to switch votes).

    Story (Episodes) Notes
    Ark in Space (4) Null points
    Sontaran Experiment (2) @rob (?)
    Genesis of the Daleks (6) Null points
    Pyramids of Mars (4) @craig (?) @scaryb(?)
    The Deadly Assassin (4) Null points
    The Robots of Death (4) Null points
    City of Death (4) @craig (?) @scaryb (?) @bluesqueakpip @jimthefish @whisht @arbutus @blenkinsopthebrave

    I’ve put a question mark if I was in doubt of your vote (or if you were split). Let me know your choices (or changes to firm votes if appropriate).

    Please feel free to continue deliberations over the next week. We’ll finalise the vote for the finale of Day of the Daleks. Any Tom story is on the table, and everyone has a say.

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    As much as a reminder to myself for this weekend, we’ll be looking at the penultimate episode of Day of the Daleks, so I’ll ask you to think about the Tom Baker episode of choice.

    Like Pertwee, we had a lot of nomination, which I’ll try to compile. They all had about one person nominating though, and it was an even wider field (as you’d probably expect given his tenure).

    We covered Talons of Weng Chiang last time, so I’ll ask you to consider what you think would do Tom Baker full justice.

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    @bluesqueakpip

    Sorry about that @bluesqueakpip. I thought the original post may be about “unspecified rumours” that BBC America will be showing new episodes before the UK. It seems to have become “a thing” with rumours abounding before the start of series 7a, 7b and the Day of the Doctor showings.

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    How nice of the UK weather to join in the spirit of World Goth Day with thunder and lightning. Very appropriate.

    Ah @whisht – I know what you mean, but I can’t explain how fun that scene actually was to be inside in the late eighties. How we used to laugh (while not showing anyone, obviously).

    Anyway – Rain.

    That was Ian Astbury looking suitably absurd, there. I was delighted to come across a track he did in collaboration with UNKLE a while ago in the US TV prog Person of Interest. Great use of a track that suits their ambient soundtrack.

    @thekrynoidman

    Ian Curtis was a sad loss. Just think, in happier circumstances, we may have been spared World in Motion.

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    @max-nash247 @bluesqueakpip

    Predictions? SD Comic-Con will have exclusive trailers that will introduce Capaldi to the worlds press who gather there, and this will enrage fandom like last year.

    The series will debut on the Bank Holiday Weekend at the end of August (23rd) in the UK with later showing in the US that night.

    Until it’s made widely known that the bulk of the funding for the series comes from outside the UK (from Worldwide/America) they are on tricky ground politically if something as high profile as Doctor Who was seen to be a “second rights” co-production. It would become a “use of public funds” issue wish some in Parliament and the Media would love to jump on. Given some of the issues the BBC is grappling with, I don’t think they’d want the distraction.

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    While there are some elections going on in the UK today, a much more important thing is World Goth Day. Yes – wear a gloomy smile today. 😀

    I covered The Sisters of Mercy upthread, so here are another couple of grand-daddies. Now I’ve got the important stuff done, I can get my shit together to go and exercise my right to choose the set of lying hypocrites I least object to.

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    Hi @scaryb

    Is life a little less hectic at the moment?

    I really enjoyed ReGenesis. It was a Canadian show with about 4 seasons. The first two are excellent, the last two slightly less so because the support cast got buggered about a bit forcing some last minute changes. It’s quite like a modern Doomwatch in certain regards, really well produced. It also benefits from some excellent scientific advice (rare for a TV show) as the lab scenes are realistic, techniques and speculation about the potential impact of biological research really well written.

    Outerbridge is really engaging as the lead scientist. Brilliant, but acts like a complete arse in his personal life. His obsession with the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 forms one of the strands throughout the first series. Amazon has it, but I noted a while ago Morrisons had the first season boxset for £5,99, which is a bargain.

    I’ll just put this trailer up:

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    @whisht

    I’m a big fan of Battlestar as well. For me, there was a slight sag in the middle of season 3, but I thought the last series played its cards well. The ending seems to divide people but, to be frank, the themes it plays with are there from the start.

    Just on that note for anyone watching Orphan Black (the clone drama) I couldn’t help thinking the second episode showed some cheeky casting with two new characters (no spoilers on who or what they are).

    Matthew Bennet, who played one of the Cylons (hence multiple copies of the same person) popped up in the episode.

    And then Peter Outerbridge turns up. He was in a very “Doomwatchy” series, ReGenesis, as a scientist investigating abuses of biological research, disease outbreaks, etc. One of his first cases was investigating human cloning.

    Probably all very coincidental, but it made me laugh.

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    @confusedpolarity

    I hope that’s true about David Bamber making an appearance. I’m probably one of the few people who actually enjoyed Chalk, which was one of SMs first series. Bamber was brilliantly nightmareish as the Deputy Head Eric Slatt.

    I still love his musings on Geography teachers.

    “What happens to them? Do they have a secret society? A secret order? Today the classroom, tomorrow the world! Next day – colour it in”.

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    So – goodbye to both Series 2 and Rose (for now). An odd series 2, in that it had some massive highs (Impossible Planet, Girl in the Fireplace) and some of (for me) the most misjudged episodes (Love and Monsters, Fear Her).

    As finales go though I think this is what was needed for the series. Army of Ghosts sets up the story well and the entry point of Rose’s narration casts a shadow over what could have been seen as a light episode. I like the scene with Camille Coduri talking about her father. After disliking Jackie at the start of series 1, I think she grew on me and Camille conveys a particular vulnerability to Jackie. Over at Torchwood it’s Freema! And Tracy Ann Oberman who is obviously delighting in vamping it up as Yvonne Hartman. She brings a smug assurance to Hartman that just makes you hate her automatically.

    The revelation that the Ghosts are Cybermen seemed a little bit obvious (I’m not watching Fear Her without cause, but weren’t they even featured in the “next time” segment in that?) but we were really expecting them after the Cybermen two-parter weren’t we? The Doctor passing Jackie of as Rose always makes me laugh, and the guided tour around Torchwood is entertaining. We have the mystery of the Void Ship to consider. Hey – that’s Mickey! His brief speculation about a King of the Cybermen brings back unpleasant thoughts about big stompy robot.

    I must compliment them on the reveal at the end. Given the Daleks presence at the end of Series 1 had been massively leaked in the press, they made a great effort of secrecy in series 2, and that was a wonderful bit of rug-pulling. A marvellous cliff-hanger.

    Onto Doomsday, and we are really stepping up a gear. Dalek Sec had the potential to be the first Dalek Standup comedian. “My Dalek mutant has no nose”. “How does he smell?” “Repulsive.”

    So four Daleks against the 5 million cybermen and humanity and they are laughing. I think on one level this was a problem with how the Daleks were presented. They were really too powerful. I prefer Daleks with some weaknesses, where a bunch of primitives could take one out with a rock (Death to the Daleks) or they could disable one by shoving it into an ice pond (Planet of the Daleks). I love the concept of the Genesis Arc being a Time Lord prison. It’s a natural extension of the dimensional technology and was a great idea. The bitch-slapping session is quite entertaining, but because it’s so one sided I think it lacks something.

    The sudden meeting of Jackie and alt-Pete is really good stuff. RTDs just a romantic at heart. Suddenly we’re on the home straight. The Doctor is the man with the plan and Rose is there with him to the bitter end. Off the Daleks and Cyberman go to the void. Hope they didn’t end up in the Land of Fiction. Genuinely tense scene with Rose flying towards the void before being intercepted by Pete. Alt-Dad to the rescue! I love the Doomsday bit of music as the Doctor and Rose face of against the wall of realities that separate them. The following scene at Bad Wolf bay I thought was moving when I first watched it, and while it still has power, I think it’s undermined by the knowledge that we’ll see Rose again. Burning up a star to send her a message? Told you – pure Romantic. Great playing by Tennant and Piper.

    And suddenly – holy crap. It’s Catherine Tate. Is it Christmas again next week? 😀

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    @nick

    By the way, (off the point) do any of you think modern UNIT works well ?

    I’m always a little ambivalent about UNIT to be honest. I love some of the characters like the Brig and Benton and I can understand the desire to reference them in the modern show. At certain points it can be helpful if there is an organisation who knows what and who the Doctor is. I think the RTD interpretation of the Doctor being distrustful of the organisation (post TimeWar) was interesting enough itself, but I’m not sure it was that successful. What it lacked was big consistent characters like the Brig.

    I think the SM science led iteration has some potential, but I think I’d prefer to see just the occasional story. I think Kate works as a consistent voice for UNIT, but what’s possibly absent is the attraction of the slightly prickly relationship that the Brig and the Doctor enjoyed. A lot of the joy of their scenes was how they could needle each other.

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    A nice little consolidation episode which slowly starts to answer some of the questions the first episode posed. Clearly, the terrorists from the future think Styles is evil, so perhaps this is their Hitler Paradox (as in, if you could travel back in time, would you Kill Hitler). I think the pace certainly lets you see some tensions in their group. Shura (he of the ‘tache) is clearly a bit of a hothead. The Dalek version of the future obviously has gone well for women, with Anat being the obvious leader.

    I think this episode is the one where the SE comes into its own – the dialogue scenes with the Daleks are much better, and the new disintegration effects look brutal. The re-edited fight as the Ogrons assault the house looks spiffy.

    How controversial do you think it would be these days to see the Doctor pick up a gun and casually disintegrate a foe? The internet would melt!

    Great cliffhanger as the Doctor chases the terrorists to come across a materialising Dalek.

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