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18 June 2017 at 02:28 #59212
‘I’ll put your name in the air.’
In Celtic belief, birds are the messengers of the Otherworld. They can represent prophetic knowledge or bloodshed. The behaviour & flight pattern of birds could be used to predict the future…

@nick The Vikings & others had similar dragony designs because they’re all from the same ‘Celtic’ era. The Pictish beast is unique to Scotland though. Other symbols similar to the (class 1) Pictish stones could once be found elsewhere, like in the Greek islands; and the menhirs in the Marne valley, France)…
18 June 2017 at 02:17 #59210Courtesy of former PM David Cameron (& Lucius)
18 June 2017 at 01:49 #59209I forgot to say:
The Rose Quartz Geode gizmos are reminiscent of the mirror symbol which usually accompanies a comb symbol on many Pictish stones….
18 June 2017 at 01:44 #59208Who’s the 3rd Time Lord? (I suppose they’re counting The Master & Missy as 2?! – Or are they? It says 3 TLs, 2 Ms [as though 3 +2 =5]…)
18 June 2017 at 00:49 #59206Where to begin?
The Devil’s Cairn is like Tara in Ireland…
Music inside a hill: There are many Scottish legends about a ‘Phantom Piper’ (where Jamie got the notion in ‘The Moonbase)…
The Doctor has lived, farmed, juggled & been a 2nd class vestal virgin in Roman Britain.
Bill looks for a Roman but gets a Pict! (Or Proto-Pict as Rona Munro has called them in an article)…
Bill falls for a 2nd week in a row…
Sounds like the crow says ‘Dork Doctor’. Perhaps it’s sulking massively?
Stone cairns as the door between worlds (or betwixt this life & the next in ‘reality’)…
Sunlight deficiency = ‘Death by Scotland’… (The country of ‘Scotland’ won’t exist for another 600 years)
Such Pictish stone fish carvings are real, such as this one at Kintore, Aberdeenshire.

(Big) Bad Wolf (of a monster)…
The Dr goes all Scottish on a (Proto) Pict!
The Picts also had slaves, at least by the time of Christianity…
Crow now sounds like it’s saying ‘Rockstar’ (I know – It’s ‘monster’)
Big knife threat no. 1
Lots of beasts swimming like the old BBC hippo ident…
Temporal rift is like Fairyland (In folk tales, if people spent too long away there, they would crumble to dust on return)…
‘We’re all in this together’ was the catchphrase of former PM, David Cameron…
The corpses are a bit like Bog People (Good-O!)…
5000 soldiers to kill a bunch of farmers (sounds fair)…
Venting a what gush?
Face your beast… (Very dragony it is too, not much like the Pictish beast seen on stones all over Scotland)

Big knife threat no.2
Turns out they’re light-eating locusts…
‘Name a cow after me…’
Brave
‘I know 10% of your dark secrets…’
Music transcends time (or can it just be heard from inside the TARDIS?)
Missy is in the TARDIS (A la Shalka)
Friends again?! (Hope’s hard to resist)
18 June 2017 at 00:19 #59204Ha! It seems that the length was the reveal (plus the nice poster)

Bang goes the Missy vs the Master theory (Or does it?)…….
17 June 2017 at 15:55 #5918917 June 2017 at 13:49 #59184Or perhaps they were killed in the War Games…
17 June 2017 at 13:03 #59180Reckon the 9th were done for because of Skarosian radiation…….
17 June 2017 at 11:36 #59170Now hearing a rumour that the midnight thing is the release of a poster for the finale…
17 June 2017 at 00:44 #59161Bonkers theory: The new Doctor will be played by a web bot. The new Master will be played by General Zod……..
Kneel…!16 June 2017 at 13:34 #59141I think it’s just chatter…
16 June 2017 at 12:45 #59139@missy The Dr Who Experience is in Cardiff.
16 June 2017 at 12:42 #59138Some kind of Doctor Who reveal has been touted @ midnight on Saturday (as in 12.01 Sun)…
What could it be?
16 June 2017 at 00:09 #59121Sadly the Doctor Who Experience will close on The 9th of September.

Meanwhile, on tonight’s BBC Question Time, Theresa May was described as ‘a Wibbly-Wobbly leader’.
Tory Tobias Ellwood replied ‘…I don’t recognise that terminology’ Heresy!!!
16 June 2017 at 00:02 #5912015 June 2017 at 18:21 #5911713 June 2017 at 22:48 #5905815 pairs of tickets to the Doctor Who Finale Countdown Concert in Cardiff

Still wondering what the link is between Michael Caine & Missy (see the link in post 57641)…….
Perhaps it’s ‘The Self Preservation Society’?
13 June 2017 at 22:33 #59056This is not quite all that it seems and is rather interesting. Posted it here as it contains mild spoilers…
mark gatiss admits protesting against black actors casting Victorian
12 June 2017 at 13:04 #58959Missy’s crib…
12 June 2017 at 12:33 #58958Mark Gatiss wanted Winston Churchill to return in this story but couldn’t fit him into it because of the Victorian setting…
12 June 2017 at 12:31 #58956Had to post this here as it contains spoilers (mentions of Cybermen & Master)…….
gatiss wanted churchill return (for Empress of Mars)
11 June 2017 at 17:09 #58920Mark Gatiss, Steven Moffat and Peter Capaldi celebrate the return of a very old friend.
11 June 2017 at 16:12 #58916This is from the Radio Times:
If you were impressed by the brilliant naming of dastardly villain Neville Catchlove (Ferdinand Kingsley) in this week’s episode, then you have history to thank – because Mark Gatiss recently revealed that the character was named after a real soldier who cropped up in a book he read for research.
“I did a lot of reading again as I always love to do around the notion of the Empire and colonies,” Gatiss told RadioTimes.com and other journalists.
“There’s a really wonderful book I read called Running the Show, which is where I got Catchlove’s name from. It’s all about the men, and they were only men, who ran the Empire.”
Specifically, we’re pretty sure that he’s referring to a soldier mentioned in Stephanie Williams’s history book called Edward Napolean Buonaparte Catchlove who was actually alive (though older and in a very different situation than the TV Catchlove) at the time Empress of Mars is set.
We understand why Gatiss went for Neville for his version, though – even for Doctor Who, the real Catchlove’s name might be a little extreme…
11 June 2017 at 15:39 #5891311 June 2017 at 11:11 #58905Martian lives matter…….
11 June 2017 at 02:55 #58882It’s a wonder that the people of Earth didn’t turn Friday into shoes & handbags when he crashed. The power of the promise of riches untold!
The spacesuits this episode are like a combo of the spacesuits from The Wheel in Space (adapted from those seen in The Tenth Planet) and the uniforms from Enemy of the World…

11 June 2017 at 02:28 #58879@scaryb @jimthefish Gatiss wanted Peladon but I can’t say why he didn’t get it…..
My bonkers theory is that the Doctor is pregnant with Missy’s baby…
11 June 2017 at 01:43 #58873@scaryb I posted 2 Theresa May & the Monks pix on twitter a while ago. Deleted one & replaced with a Chuckle Brothers one….. Plus a host of others, with various politicians (inc. Trump of course) & celebs including this one…….
10 June 2017 at 22:16 #58869RTD knows who the 13th Doctor is…….
Dr Who chat begins @3.21
10 June 2017 at 21:22 #58867First thoughts:
Starts off very much like ‘The First Men in the Moon’…

Man Friday is from ‘Robinson Crusoe’…
Bill’s ‘eye gaff’ – Awkward!
Sweet FA! (‘Sweet Fanny Adams – That’s what!’)
I’ve never heard the phrase ‘A share of the rhino’ before…
The human deaths by sonic disrupter were fun & nasty.
纸老虎/紙老虎…
‘Sleep no more’ (my warriors)…
The irony of ‘Sod this for a game of soldiers’…
An age of honour where a man’s pledge is actually worth something…
Funny to think that a being which looks like a big green Theresa May is now an asylum seeker…….
10 June 2017 at 20:47 #5886510 June 2017 at 15:26 #588539 June 2017 at 14:34 #58794Okay, I’ve located the Bowie reference in this episode…..
9 June 2017 at 14:05 #58790My second @standardnews cartoon today #2017Election #GE2017 #Election2017 #dup pic.twitter.com/Sjd735temI
— Christian Adams (@Adamstoon1) June 9, 2017
9 June 2017 at 12:50 #58786Readthrough for the Xmas Spesh took place yesterday…
8 June 2017 at 22:48 #587628 June 2017 at 22:39 #58761@whisht – It might seem like there must be a vast amount of major revelations being leaked over there but we’re mostly just theorising about Xmas future…
8 June 2017 at 22:21 #58758I think it’s a longer Radio Times one that’s just been released.
I’m only guessing it’s a ruiner. (For ruiner think – ‘Tom Baker will appear as The Curator’ [see DOTD]) Gotta guess sometime if you follow spoilers, though… [If I had a memory worm I could read it & then forget it…(sigh*)]
Also, (amazingly) I’ve not even read the DWM spoilers for these upcoming eps…
I agree that @frobisher‘s idea is very good. I also enjoyed your cabbagey question earlier…..
Another bonkers theory – the Doctor will regenerate into 2 Doctors (A bit like the Green Party have 2 leaders)…
8 June 2017 at 21:53 #58750The thing about spoilers is that 90% of them aren’t ruiners (if you don’t mind watching the series & next time trailers). But if you follow spoilers it’s easy to not know when to quit so as to avoid ruiners…
Online ruiners should be heralded as such in bold capitals with flashing lights…..
Round about now is probably the time to start winding down twitter… The ep 11 synopsis is out & it sounds like it might be a ruiner. That’s why I’ve not read it.
The next biggie is going to be who the next Doctor is. Are any of us going to be able to avoid that deep temptation…?
8 June 2017 at 20:06 #58744Maybe it will simply be a double regeneration. We haven’t seen that before…..

Hoping that Missy has a TARDIS with a Zero Room…
8 June 2017 at 18:52 #58740How do I unburn all my Pearl Mackie memorabilia? (Only joking…)
7 June 2017 at 20:09 #58690Probably not a talking cabbage though, as Chibbers has said he doesn’t want to do a gimmicky casting…
Moffat has previously stated that Dickens’ A Christmas Carol is his default story. Perhaps the Xmas spesh will feature 3 ghosts and end with the Dr sending a little boy off to buy a giant turkey…..
7 June 2017 at 18:29 #58689@All
Zoe Ball must be being defrosted as we speak…..
The end of the Hay Festival vid tells us this regen is going to be something bonkers & never seen before.
Maybe the Doctor will regenerate into a talking cabbage?

Gatiss on BBC 1 in half an hour…
7 June 2017 at 18:12 #586887 June 2017 at 13:40 #58682I presume so (guess he said it to make people buy into the ‘death scene’). He confirms the film dates in this vid.
7 June 2017 at 12:42 #58680So Nardole is knitting a long multi-coloured scarf for the new Doctor, Michelle Gomez? I like it…

Filming of the Xmas spesh begins in 2 weeks…
7 June 2017 at 12:34 #58679Human flaws…
6 June 2017 at 23:22 #58662One more for the road…
I’ve not been posting these….. I’m just lazy, I suppose…
Galleries also contain ‘behind the scenes’ and ‘looking back at’ pictures…..
6 June 2017 at 22:54 #58661@jimthefish – Yes, ta. Sorry for the kerfuffle, folks. I obviously still require plenty more sleep….!

Superman 2, anyone?
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