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Has anyone here played Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening? I am having another bonkers theory moment that was inspired by thinking about this game and the latest series of Doctor Who.
From ZeldaWiki:
The Wind Fish is a character featured in Link’s Awakening. He is a large, flying whale who makes his home atop Mount Tamaranch on Koholint Island, inside of a giant egg. He serves as the main focus of the storyline in Link’s Awakening.
The Wind Fish is a deity that is the creator of Koholint Island. During the course of Link’s Awakening, it is revealed that Koholint Island is a dream of the Wind Fish. The Wind Fish can only be woken with the Eight Instruments of the Sirens.
Should the Wind Fish wake, the island and all its inhabitants will vanish. This presents a moral dilemma for Link, as to finish the game, Koholint and all of the characters living on it must disappear. This is unavoidable upon beating the game, however, as Link only definitively learns the true nature of the Wind Fish after the final Nightmare has been defeated.The idea that, a world exists inside of the dreams of a giant entity that sleeps inside an egg makes me wonder if Missy’s heaven might be something similar.
Not sure where it could go from there, though…
@scaryb He turned up as soon as the button was pressed. He was monitoring. Or waiting till the end of the countdown. (Quick trip round the moon, kill some time
, head back )Makes me think that it was intended to be a suicide mission. No way they could expect set the bombs, launch the shuttle and get clear in time. (There again there there were a lot of “no way”s in this episode!)
I definitely agree that it was a suicide mission, which explains the astronaut’s grim and fatalistic demeanour (which I think was one of the very strongest points of the episode).
Regarding the detonation – I thought that the button press was to *abort* a running timer (I might be wrong), so… if humanity had reached the decision to use the nukes *and* Clara had not overruled that decision at the last second, there would have been no interval between the timer reaching zero and the nukes detonating for the Triumvirate of Womankind to get into the TARDIS.
The Doctor’s actions could therefore only be seen as responsible to Courtney if he already had knowledge that the detonation was aborted somehow.
The Doctor’s disregard for his duty of care towards Courtney, a child in his care that he abandoned to die in a nuclear explosion that she would not have been exposed to had he not brought her there
@scaryb No he didn’t. He very deliberately sent her to the TARDIS so she’d be safe*.
Hmm. I’m pretty sure that at the 29 minute mark in the show the Doctor abandons all three humans to (potentially) die in a nuclear explosion, one of whom was a child he had brought there on (perhaps – unless he’s a chessmaster like the Seventh) an apparent whim.
*The Doctor’s definition of “safe” may be slightly different from a conventional human’s
Agreed!
When trying to find the bit where he abandons them, I came across that bit of dialogue where he asks whether the POTUS is qualified, saying “(s)he’s never been in space” – except that she had, and was there in the room with him! That was again, pretty timey-wimey!
@pedant If the moon is a giant space egg, then why isn’t it egg-shaped? 🙂
Nintendo knows the score on egg shaped celestial bodies:
I’m enjoying this, because the Trolley problem always causes me horrid cognitive dissonance (a bit like the death penalty – I feel that *even* if the death penalty can be demonstrated to have a deterrent effect, it is still a moral line that a government should not be allowed to cross.)
Our little Moon Dragon isn’t the Trolley Problem. Or if it is a variation of the Trolley Problem, it’s one where diverting the trolley will definitely cause the one person on Track B to die, but if you don’t do anything there’s a 75% chance that the trolley will stop before it reaches the five people on Track A.
If the Trolley Problem was formatted in that way, most people would refuse to divert the trolley. The reason they didn’t in tonight’s script was that THEY were the people on the track.
Faced with the possibility of dying, they chose to commit murder. Fortunately, Clara stopped them.
Actually, in the example you’ve given, the maths still seems to stack up in favour of tipping the Fat Controller in front of his runaway trolley, as based on probability, chucking the stout chap will save 1.25 lives of the 6 at risk, whereas not dropping Sir Topham Hatt over the edge only saves one of the six lives.
@bluesqueakpip Yup. In no particular order: Robin Hood exists, there’s a dragon in the Moon, dinosaurs were much bigger than we think they were, Daleks can become aware of their own evil, there appears to be life after death and bankers can repent of their misdeeds.
Am I spotting a pattern here?
I think you’re on to something, although the notion that bankers can repent of their misdeeds is the most ludicrous of the lot. Reality can only take so much warping before the spacetime elastic snaps back and causes a nasty red mark.
