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30 October 2018 at 15:31 #65199
What @bluesqueakpip said plus 2 things. It seems the leavers have big issues with the EU
high court and its re-interpreting of UK laws. They feel this means they are ‘subject’ to the EU.
Also, There seems to be this philosophical difference about where your freedoms come from.
Are you born free? In the UK you are and that’s where the USA gets that notion from and
stuck it in the Constitution. In Europe its a bit more like you are allowed freedoms. That’s
where the 4 freedoms thing comes from. I don’t think that most Brits. whether they’re the
leavers or the remainers like being told what they are ‘allowed”.
Clearly, small governments fail in good political oversight too. But they usually have fewer impediments
to fix the problems. Also, my point about the new Doctor having issues with who she is has gone on
too long She’s our first ‘female’ Doctor. So I’m wrestling with this notion of why ‘she’s’ still having
to reflect on who ‘ she’ is and it smells a bit off. I just feel a brilliant Doctor should already
have been able to process all this. CC makes the first ‘female’ Doctor actually keep questioning herself.
Did Missy do that? Did the Galigreyan general? Nope. This is not a good look for me for the 1st Doctor
that’s a women.
29 October 2018 at 15:58 #65135False equivalency because the UK is !! and always has been sovereign country and not California.
The reality is that the people in favor of the Brexit despite of what you think about them, all have
in common that they want to see the country start behaving like a sovereign country again and not
as some subject state.
You right not everyone likes being an American. Yet it seems quite honestly everyone though out the world
wants to be in California and its not just cause of the weather. Anyway, the UK will still profit from trade
agreements, will still collaborate , will still find funding for academic research etc. What you wont be doing
is paying a membership fee on top of the regular costs of your own government. You’ll still have safety
standards and food standards etc. As far as joining a NAFTA style arrangement (the article you forwarded)
you’ll still be insulated by your own political choices and decisions. Even more so when you can make your
own decisions. Actually, California has been far more keen on all sorts of regulation than all the rest of
the states. As far as food goes we call ourselves the organic farm to fork state. We pay high taxes here but
then we also know that the money is going to support our way of living. Except for all the dollars that
the Feds grab. But the UK pays very high taxes and its not all going to support your way of living .
So basically the UK pays local tax, UK tax, EU tax. We pay local and Fed tax.
The UK pays 3 taxes and we pay 2.
I live in California for a reason which is this states political philosophy. If there is 1
very positive thing that comes out of the Brexit it is that the British actually started this
important debate.
PS edit -I forgot to mention that under the instances you have given I would absolutely vote
to leave. In fact, there already is a version of Calexit movement. It involves California, Oregon and
Washington and Hawaii breaking ranks with the Feds. Its still a baby movement. But there ya go.
29 October 2018 at 01:42 #65101Mr. Big as Trump light. He was a totally nonsense bad guy. So was most of this episode. The
song was a good choice and Graham has a few nice moments, Yaz’s family also had some
fun moments.
I’m still not a fan of this Doctor. I can’t connect with a Doctor that keeps bringing up that
she’s feeling some how disconnected from her own self. It feels to me like she isn’t completely
grounded and I don’t like this “scattered” approach. Particularly since they made this Doctor a she!
Why did they make the first female Doctor come off as so scattered? That’s a very unfortunate
decision for me.
28 October 2018 at 20:06 #65073The EU is supposed to publish a corruption report at least every few years. I think they stopped.
Wonder why that might be ? Do you really think they’re doing so great fixing corruption in eastern
Europe I don’t. Do you think its easier to maintain oversight and accountability over corruption
within your regional governments? I do.
27 October 2018 at 18:48 #65042The 3 current challenges of the EU commission are in my view 1. toxic debt and fiscal discipline
2. Brexit 3. how to deal with refugees in a growing environment of increased acrimony and declining
cooperation. Huge issues. The purpose of trading blocs 1. taking economic advantage and 2. economic
integration. The 2 disadvantages are 1. political differences and 2. the effects on local industry particularly
with the flow to cheap labor. Basically I will put it this way, Whenever you get supersized government
whether its the EU, the Feds, China, Russia, whatever, you also get the 3 P’s, power addiction, pay offs,
and outrageous pensions. Plus you are deprived of real democracy. In California we have done everything
to block the Feds every time they attempt to overreach. We use a handy tool called voting propositions
to change our rules/laws. Why? Cause smaller government means you can keep the politicians on a
a shorter leash and they work more directly for the people. Just not take your tax money and say
thankyou and good bye. Wait, you did that too! Brexit. Congratulations!
When I look at Trump rallies on tv I see all kinds of twisted folks in red hats screaming “lock her up” and
they don’t care about democracy. They care about keeping power. Rosa Parks fought against these sorts
of folks. For me 52% of the UK was Rosa Parks against the EU. Because the bigger the government
the more they turn into a corruption racket trying to hold onto their power. I’m fighting to take
back democracy here. I really feel that the Brexiteers have that same argument to make. In the USA
we have only 2 political parties but in the EU you have hundreds. How on earth will the UK ever get a
fair shake under those conditions? We have a much better chance to take back our democracy cause we
only switch back and forth between red and blue. That’s my honest take.
To all the Americans on the forum. I went to an assembly of my political caucus last night. One of the
big topics was voter suppression and all the problems of the voting machines flipping ballots. If you live
in a red state and vote for the Dems please! take a picture of your ballot before you submit it! There are
already many lawsuits pending in Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, Wisconsin, etc. over this. The Trump
criminal syndicate is very nervous about this election !!
26 October 2018 at 17:36 #65011How much influence did the UK have with its vote in the EU ? Now cause of Brexit its influence
will be even further diminished. The whole world in under the influence of capitol markets,
trade and corporations. It was the only thing that kept the world together although now its coming
really all apart. To be clear I’m not an isolationist but quite honestly I really don’t believe that
good government can ever be based on trading blocks . All I see now is more expanding trade wars
and yet so many countries are already under extreme pressure to even pay their existing debt service.
Plus we are falling into bearish times if you follow those Elliot wave chart geeks. Possibly as soon as
next year. Its all about how they’re seeing consolidation and meeting resistance and all that sort of stuff.
Thanks for the book recommendation. I always love to read anarchist history !
25 October 2018 at 22:51 #64986Agreed! I can see the exhaustion over the Brexit and I think it would be hugely unfortunate
for CC to bring up the topic now. Best stick to the historical politics.
I take your point about the IMF — so much global toxic debt! Plus we are starting to raise
interest rates and that does not bode well for defaults. Too many countries are at serious risk.
My point was about how the commissions civil servants get their jobs.
I’m referring to the direct accountability aspect.
You have a European union made up of countries that mostly don’t trust each other.
25 October 2018 at 21:58 #64979The problem with the remainers has always been and continues to be their own version of
what they believe the facts to be. So when you say ill informed I say LOL !!!!!!!
“Oh! She’s so incorrect!”
Nice try but arrogance and no facts to back up your perspective well ,
thought you had stronger skills coping with disagreements.
You both obviously have vested interests in the EU. Its transparent.
25 October 2018 at 17:51 #64957Secretary of State is FEDERAL advice and consent job to the President. What’s your point?
So the people of the UK participated in electing commission civil servants. NOPE
Rules based? When some one tells me rules based I wonder benefitting who?
Italy is in recession. You don’t do austerity rules under those conditions. But Brussels doesn’t care
as long as their paychecks aren’t at risk.
Actually you don’t elect your own Prime Minister . They get appointed by the party that wins.
Use some common sense and stop bugging me with your nonsense before you really embarrass yourself.
You can not like my views but guess what- I don’t care.
25 October 2018 at 17:11 #64954I take your point about the EU court and I’ll raise you a unelected by anyone in the UK EU commission.
In California we send back tons of tax money to the feds for payoffs and pensions
and subsidizing red states. In the UK you get to do the same thing for Brussels.
But! we have our own locally elected and not appointed legislators shaping the future.
So we get to run our own state! We even get to make our own trade treaties.
The best part is we elect our own Governor. That’s real democracy. He’s the one
that makes all our big local California decisions. NOT the President. Almost like a sovereign country.
Decentralization. Representation.
Have you been following the big Kerfuffle between Italy and Brussels?
We will miss Jerry Brown. There’s a reason why he was Governor for 16 years !
25 October 2018 at 02:02 #64921Expected this response from you. Sorry but your the low information one here for me!!
I’m struggling to understand why it is you think so highly about the EU but whatever.
The only way for the remain camp to win is to do a Brexit.
You cant make progress until you move beyond this and stop talking about it.
In the USA we cant move beyond this until we take back our gov’t and you basically have
the same problem . So take back your gov’t BYE
Again apologies to the mods and I will not be saying anything more to ANYONE about this.
24 October 2018 at 23:09 #64919Not just the USA . Hungary, Poland, Italy, and its very active in Russia, look who is probably being
elected President in Brazil. I’m reasonably active in politics. I’ve been stumping for my local candidates.
In some local districts we have a excellent chance of removing republican Trump supporting congressmen.
A few years ago I shared that I supported Brexit because I saw how incompetently the EU was handling
all these political shifts. They’re also quite incompetent when it comes to a lot of other things. The UK
had a opportunity to leave and do things better without them.
I’ve read lots of right wing stuff. It’s always an education. They don’t respect decency.
They do have a perverted reverence for fear. Wrong but very effective with folks that feel politics left them aside.
That’s what we have now. The EU is having no success to redirect this. In fact they seem astonishingly
incompetent! It may not have happened this way if the EU gave the member countries real power instead of
Brussels trying to centralize everything. The history of Europe is too different from the US to successfully
copy a system like what we have. ( I know there are lots of remainers on this forum and refuse re-litigation on this!)
Apologies for being off topic on the Rosa thread but I’m so disappointed yet not at all one bit surprised
about how all the current politics in the world is shaking out.
Its not enough to condemn. That’s only the least of what anyone can do.
If Krasko is a commentary on our future then that says to me that this addiction to alt right impulses will
always continue and that’s a more disturbing message that the Rosa episode has delivered to us.
23 October 2018 at 23:08 #64882Rosa was entirely aware of the NAACP’s plan for a boycott and as you say
she said that “I was tired of giving in! ” So indeed knew what she was doing
in the moment.
I’m giving her that credit. She deserves it !
23 October 2018 at 21:16 #6487323 October 2018 at 21:06 #64868Just so everyone is aware, unlike how it was written in the episode Rosa’s protest WAS carefully
planned and she was also very actively involved in raising funds for many other protests !!
There were many African American women that were arrested for the same thing before and
after her. She knew what she was doing. She had guts !
Really wish the episode hadn’t changed that part. But it did manage to make a very important point.
23 October 2018 at 17:48 #64848Nice to see that they took on this ‘uncomfortable’ subject and nailed it. Its still however
the Sarah jane Adventures redux for me but oh well, I can cope.
On the subject of the Tardis I must admit the big crystal thingy is very phallic symbol-ish .
So to be clear, the Doctor isn’t the only one changing sex ? If this is true then its also conceivable
that the new Tardis has ‘crystalized’ into a new personality.
Opens the Tardis door and before fingers can be snapped. Offering cookies/biscuits.
Sort of ‘fatherly’ behavior to a favorite child? Good parenting.
Or maybe I’m just imagining this…
19 October 2018 at 23:07 #64693@shinymcshine
Maybe the audience was intended for younger viewers ? SJA ended up having a lot of cross over
older viewers. That’s sort of how this new Who is so far for me.
I can manage my expectations about this new series 🙂 I just wanted to feel more attached to it.
(I think there was possibly a Shakespeare quote about expectations similar
to what your saying? Or maybe some one)
19 October 2018 at 19:41 #64683@shinymcshine
Did you like the Sarah Jane Adventures? Cause that’s what this show has been at least it is for me.
Moreover, having given it some more thought Jodie is totally reminding me of Sarah Jane !
That is barring the show veers into a new direction in future episodes with different writers.
I did like the SJ Adventures but I just didn’t expect that they would bring back that show
in this particular way. The BBC did profess to wanting to bring along more of that type of younger cohort.
Doesn’t mean its a bad thing. Just I’ve been a bit impaired I guess by my hopeful expectations .
17 October 2018 at 20:38 #64602Hi ! Why is it I feel that even though she’s the oldest Doctor she behaves a bit adolescent ?
It’s bugging me that its almost as if CC is trying to make her feel too “youthful” for a Doctor we all
know to be thousands of years old? Its not terrible and its not terrific for me.
She may not have watched the show before production but she’s obviously extremely familiar
with it and she seems to me to be channeling different bits of past Doctors in an effort to grow
into her own new skin. Meanwhile I’m hoping for a stronger consciousness raising super hero
that finds her own distinctive uniqueness and not be thinking ‘oh this is a bit 10. this is a bit 11,
this is a bit like 4’ and so on. BTW, I never felt that way about previous Doctors. They all brought
their own uniqueness to the part from episode 1 !
17 October 2018 at 01:03 #64587Sifted thru most of the posts here, so here is my take. Another bit of a clunker episode.
It just felt flat for me. Jodie is trying to make her mark as the ‘all Doctors combined’ alpha
female Doctor but I’m feeling that the writing isn’t doing her a lot of favors. I’ve come to
expect more from Dr. Who than I’ve felt so far from this new show. Hopefully they will
continue the story arc concept which might have possibly been hinted in that first
episode as a ‘family’ theme. (In spite of the Doctor’s comment about not having any
but the Doctor lies.) Otherwise this CC season might just turn into quite the let down for me!
15 October 2018 at 00:03 #64494on sale half price !
7 October 2018 at 22:23 #64234Well I’ll see.
So far its the Torchwood reboot with a different team. Jody did ok but
I’m not feeling completely Doctor about her. Still I’m fine with that cause,
well she just regenerated so maybe it’s no big deal.
This episode didn’t leave me thinking “oh this was just spectacular start” .
In any case my favorite bit was the teeth on the alien face.
26 December 2017 at 21:29 #62751Actually for me that flick was always about putting aside your dreams which is why he considered
suicide. I never liked the preachy message and I never agreed with it . “A Wonderful Life” has
always been a twisted movie to me. Just saying…………
26 December 2017 at 18:57 #62749@miapatrick Yes – this was basically the “happy suicides” story. So Moffat !
@missrori The Testimony – interesting point about the Nethersphere ! Again so Moffat !
@bluesqueakpip I too will be looking forward to seeing how Chibnall and our new Doctor
handle these next series !! In particular political themes as this last story referenced a lot
of how current values have changed. So Moffat ! 😉
25 December 2017 at 22:28 #62733Did the Tardis just ”spit” out the new Doctor!?
Felt to me like a little tease at the “not my Doctor” complainers.
9 November 2017 at 16:14 #62362I also think she’s channeling Mork from Mork and Mindy.
Another space alien that I admired. 🙂
13 October 2017 at 02:21 #62146Yes, I take your point about “shiny new deal”
The lobbyists in DC that represent cars, agriculture etc. will want some deal.
If it doesn’t happen that can easily send the stock market in some free fall and
Mr. idiot mouth has been constantly taking disingenuous credit for our very
bullish market!! So I don’t think Mr. “art of the deal’ would like that deal very much!
It would be another blatant sign of his incompetence which is fine with his
base but not for all the other Republicans getting reelected and btw it will be very close to
a major re election season when all this comes together. 🙂
13 October 2017 at 00:48 #62144Well I’m surfing thru UK newspapers and I’m seeing this ?
If I was prone to crazy conspiracy theories I might say this might be some how connected to why the UK
is ready to leave the EU with no deal ??? But that’s just probably extremely wild conjecture isn’t it???
But who nose ?
12 October 2017 at 23:20 #62142I just read in the Telegraph today that May wants to get into Nafta ! Funny your
posting about the US invasion of Parliament just now!
Hasn’t this been the most grindingly dysfunctional year!
1 September 2017 at 02:53 #61820https://creators.co/posts/4257730/amp
Murray Gold rumor re: exiting show
24 July 2017 at 23:34 #6140524 July 2017 at 01:17 #61366Maybe? I really like the Time Lord stories and it seems fitting
to me for Moffats time to end with a big story and big roles
that have to do with Time Lords. In the long run of this show and
over all of its years there really hasn’t been that many! I’m for bringing
some back and getting introduced to some new ones too.
23 July 2017 at 23:52 #61356Actually Clara is trapped between 2 moments as well and in both cases
of the “Day of the Doctor’ painting and Clara it is definitely Time Lord tech.
But which Time Lord would want an Earth army and why? But it also makes me think
about the cube things and ‘saving’ this army for some future situation like the Zygons did.
23 July 2017 at 23:08 #61342What a nice treat to have a little Christmas in July! The Doctor said they’re
trapped between two moments just like what has happened to Clara.
21 July 2017 at 22:06 #61267Except for notably the Saxon Master. I can stand more of him !
21 July 2017 at 20:39 #61263I don’t get why Rose/1o irritated any one and River/11/12 didn’t?
So what’ s wrong with sex 🙂 My take is the Doctors can have any
kind of relationship that they want to and we will all gain from their perspective .
But tbh I’m not expecting kinky.
But then again …….. British show – who nose
20 July 2017 at 22:26 #6119520 July 2017 at 02:28 #61153I just read that rumor about Kris Marshall in the Sun. Without going into details
(because I tend to think in big swatches ) if they make Kris NOT human I think that could
be quite good. We don’t get a lot of non-human companions in nu who and they’re great !
Or ! part human ? Like Susan’s kid?
Nardole worked out wonderfully so possibly that’s a formula they should consider keeping.
19 July 2017 at 05:52 #6108919 July 2017 at 04:50 #61086I’m basically saying more gender ambiguous.
Not too distinctly feminine. Jodie is a pretty girl and I don’t want to see
her made into a Doctor Barbie doll.
They didn’t ‘fem’ up Missy and I think that was very smart but they still made a
point to refer to her as a Time lady. Romana too and maybe that was a mistake?
They’re not Humans they’re Galifreyans so shouldn’t we be using the same
title for both. I prefer if they call her Time *Lord*.
19 July 2017 at 01:49 #61075So been reading thru posts and it occurred to me if the powers that be could still refer to the Doctor
as a Time *Lord* not a Time *Lady* ?? And – possibly could this indicate something about the way
they might intend to portray her version of the Doctor ? I’m referring to CC and his crew.
My preference is Time Lord ! I believe this even may alleviate some of what all of folks might
be having some issues about? My thinking is if a push is made to make *Lord* a more gender
neutral concept that could be more interesting – at least it would for me. All this bickering over
her sex is a bit annoying. So I’d very much like to see her as a sort of “Orlando”. Throw in some
episodes where the Doctor meets some historic figures. I like those particular episodes very much!
Oh- and give her a very Bloombury outfit and a visit to meet Virginia and Vita 🙂
17 July 2017 at 17:09 #60928Ok. So this is how this space alien evolves? Hm?
Actually I could be more moved by Hartnell’s regeneration.
17 July 2017 at 16:18 #60917I agree with you. It does feel like a gimmick ! The problem with gimmicks is that they
feel contrived. But I’ll still give it a fair shot and see what CC does .
Part of me says yeah ok………but
I’m still mourning what this show has been and how a Doctor Jody is going to be changing things.
Although its not even exactly that I’m bemoaning all these changes. Missy was great.
Yet I do still have this tiny bit of a cringe about under going so much major new who reworking.
“But times have changed and so must I”
16 July 2017 at 18:11 #60789Well I didn’t get a woman as President but I’m getting a woman as Doctor !
They’ve been subtly telegraphing it all last season !
I’m a girl !!! Oh! You’ve changed the decorating
Lets see if I like it ? I’ll give her a fair shot !
9 July 2017 at 04:38 #60485I watched again tonight too. Maybe wrong but I think the Saxon Master
is wearing a black Crombie coat very similar to the Doctor’s blue Crombie Coat?
Whether it could be a thing that matters I have no idea? The Masters inferiority complex and
narcissism are the most authentic aspects about him so maybe a little competition of the coats?
@brewski I hope your right! I’d like for the Doctor to have something like
a new ‘Earth’ family and maybe multi part extended family stories might be interesting ?
3 July 2017 at 21:07 #60305@nick Your question about Bill – look back at post #59908
Its at the end of the first minute
3 July 2017 at 18:33 #60288I thought Hazran was Susan! I thought she had a strong resemblance to Susan’s picture
sitting on the Doctors desk at the University. A matured version of the character was my bet.
I expect we will probably see a big party of returning characters for a big blow out Christmas
episode. Very right too !!
3 July 2017 at 06:40 #602543 July 2017 at 06:31 #60250No one mentioned the jelly babies yet. I loved the jelly babies! Choose it as my avatar.
Missy only stabbed the Master. To weaken him. To give the Doctor an advantage.
For someone with 2 hearts that can’t be fatal. Both the Master shot Missy with a ray gun
and the Doctor was also shot with cyber ray gun. I’m thinking Missy will regenerate too.
I wonder if Moffat is helping to set up the future? Is it possible we will be getting
two time lords traveling together? Two younger versions of the Doctor and Missy?
I loved when Baker Doc had Romana along. That would actually be fantastic!. Plus we still can
use the Saxon Master now that he’s so brilliantly grown into the part. Michelle was Peter’s
Missy. But I’m wondering if we’re getting an intentional set up to continue with this theme?
Missy did refer to the Doctor as her boyfriend after all.
2 July 2017 at 03:54 #60171I just finished watching and it was a very satisfying episode but WEAT was definitely the
absolute best of the season IMHO.
Good grief Missy! You turned your back on the Master! What a dummy !
Still your going out on a high note.
Of course I will watch again and get thru all these comments and even peek at Reddit.
As always I’m curious to read everyone’s stuff and see what’s been picked up.
I wonder if I freeze the regeneration scene in Antarctica will I make out the next Doctors face?
He definitely had a young hand. So my first bonkers theory for next season is that
Missy regenerates into a even younger woman and becomes his companion? That could be fun.
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