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  • #68258

    @winston

    Shaun Dooley (Epzo from The Ghost Monument) got a similar surprise in his cover of Never Grow Up (he was nervous and singing with his eyes closed, to imagine he was just with his kids – so didn’t see Taylor Swift come in).

    Fair bit of Who connection: David Tennant, Suranne Jones (Idris) and Olivia Colman (Prisoner Zero) do, respectively, Proclaimers’ Sunshine on Leith, Clean Bandit’s Symphony and Portishead’s Glory Box.

    But Whittaker’s Yellow does seem to have rather hit people in the feels. She was umming and ahhing between this and Sky Full of Stars as a tribute to her nephew, who dies at 3 from complications related to Down’s Syndrome, and I think the feeling really comes through.

    #68255

    Jodie Whittaker rehearses Yellow, for Children in Need: gets a bit of a surprise:

    #68245

    @thane16

    The closing line of that PotN is just genius.

    #68243

    @winston

    LOOK AWAY NOW!!!!!

    @mudlark

    Dracula in Buffy (riffing on the high camp Hammer Horror, not Bram Stoker) served the purpose it was intended to serve – to be a massive misdirect for what happened at the end of that episode (which itself had been carefully set in motion two years earlier).

    Its secondary purpose was re firmly re-establish the show as about vampires and demons, not golems.

    Now if you want to fret about an over-romanticised vampire, several hundred thousand moist 15 year olds decided that Spoike was just luuuverly romantic poet who’d taken a wrong turn (But then, James Marsters says he though he played him too soft in <spoiler redacted>.

    Also. It was American TV in the late 90s/early 00s. You were never going to get anything other than chisel-cheeked chaps.

    So sitting there thinking “that’s not Stoker’s Dracula” is to sit there with the point flying over the head.

     

    #68240

    @thane16

    The funny one.

    #68235

    It occurs to me that you may not have seen this:

    #68232

    @thane16

    I have lost count of the number of times I have walk past that piano. Never seen it not being played, always on my way to an appointment.

     

    #68227

    @winston

    Watch it how you want. Seriously. Ignore the blather.

    But be aware that S6 has some seriously heavy duty material that you might want to ease up to, given your current situation. Both @thane16 and I had this in mind with our comments.

    But I would recommend, if you can, watching it in order (ideally on DVD because the version on Amazon Prime is the hideously remastered version  that utterly disregarded the colour palette that Joss Whedon carefully chose). Should you decide to do this you will

    1. Discover one of the sweetest love stories ever told, only to have your heart ripped out …and then find that there is an even sweeter love story waiting to rush in;

    2. A genuine first for US network TV that I won’t spoil, so remind me. Relates to 1 above;

    3. In amongst the general brilliance (and a few clunkers – not all of 147 eps can be good), 5 of the most brilliantly inventive single episodes ever, each of which is carefully slotted into the narrative;

    4. A moment when you might think “OMG what have they done?” but don’t do what I did and bail for a year or two, only to have to catch up later, meaning I was late to TWO (count ’em) of the 5 of the most brilliantly inventive single episodes ever.

    5. An episode that you will know, immediately, was written from truth;

    6. A fine ensemble cast never once taking their eyes off the ball.

    7. Oh, and one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in the history of television (possibly the World).

    But watch it however you want.

    #68219

    @bluesqueakpip

    You might want to remove the spoiler there….

    #68217

    @winston

    I’m an with @thane16 – Buffy, if you have never sat and watched it, has a through line (well, two really) that runs across all 7 seasons, with season 5 – imho – the finest single season of serial TV ever made, a perfect collision of character, metaphor, arc and theme. But it was that because each season built upon the one before, with things that happened earlier having consequences many years later. Specifically the major character arc in Season Six had its seeds sown in the 3rd episode of season 1.

    There is hardly a modern show that doesn’t owe a debt to it (including Doctor Who, something RTD has stated) – it was that innovative.

    If you can, treat yourself to the whole lot. You won’t regret it. And as you do, go find Jim’s blogs as we all did a watch-along with Puro and Spawn.

    #68216

    @thane16

    The boogie-woogie pianist in in St Pancras International station, one of the business railway stations in the country (Eurostar terminus (on the upper deck to the pianists right), and trains from both the places I have lived in the past 20 years).

    It used to (possibly still does) boast the widest single-span roof in the world and is really quite beautiful). It also stars as King’s Cross Station in the Harry Potter films, despite the real KX being about 50 yards way – but nowhere near as impressive.

    So people don’t stop because they are on their way somewhere, possibly on a deadline!

    #68186

    With @winston in mind, The Cure and the impossible sad and beautiful Pictures of You. 

    #68153

    @notoriouszero

    The usual sources. It might be on Netflix or Amazon Prime (or other streaming services) in your area, and is certainly available on Bluray/DVD it most regions.

    Then of course there are the various totallylegitimatedownload sites, but those you will have to find for yourself with all of the attendant risks to the health of your computer.

    Night of the Doctor (safe to watch if you have seen Name of the Doctor) is on Youtube.\

    This may be region locked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo (but it should be on BBC America’s channel too)

    #68143

    Various celebs are contribution to a collection of covers for Children In Need (annual telethon type thingy)

    Jodie Whittaker covers Yellow, by Coldplay

    #68142

    @notoriouszero

    You are not alone in being banjaxed by S7. Netflix had completely the wrong running order, with Day of the Doctor erroneously at the end of S8, and did have Time of the Doctor.

    Until *cough* somebody *cough* patiently explained it to a CS helper…, much like @mudlark has done for you.

    Before watching Day of the Doctor, you could usefully watch Night of the Doctor, a “minisode” that is readily available on Youtube (was well as resolving an issue about whether  a certain incarnation of the Doctor was canon.

    #68141

    @craig @jimthefish

    I think it is time for a new sofa. Let’s go all in with the pink dayglo this time.

    The TV thread is getting there too.

    #68134

    Those of you of a special effects nerdy disposition may enjoy this: NerdyMcNerdFace(book)

    #68125

    @all

    Another Netflix bit of wonder stuff, prompted by @thane16 the Elder.

    Watch Unbelievable, an 8 part “limited series” (ie only one season, I think) dealing with the Washington and Colorado serial rapes and starting with the truly shocking and infuriating treatment of the first victim, bullied into retracted her complaint.

    What it does brilliantly is let the police procedural format speak for the victims and to damn the incompetents, without melodrama. The three female leads – Toni Collette, Merritt Wever (as the two cops who crack the case) and Kaitlyn Dever as the, doubly-abused first victim, are superb, but the whole show is marked by skilled use of restraint. It occasionally spells out the obvious for the benefit of the hard of learning, but never descends into preachiness.

    UK viewers may recall a 1983 documentary episode called A Complaint of Rape, which exposed the dreadfully inept handling of rape cases by Thames Valley Police. It led to wholesale changes in how sexual offences are handed in the UK. One can only hope that this re-telling has a similar impact.

    It may also prompt recollections of Lindy Chamberlain and Joanna Lees – women who had unjust suspicion thrown on them at least in part because they weren’t hysterical.

    #68124

    @ichabod

    I thought I was more concise 😉 but a bit of Ursula is never wasted.

    (I did my Masters ta LSE and, in true LSE style, we had our own term: “Ideologically sound”, used in exactly the same way – always satirical, usually self-deprecating.)

    #68110

    @craig @jimthefish

    I don’t think Dr Sachin Gupta is the right kind of Doctor…

    #68107

    @thane16 – knowing your thing for planes….

    Bugger. Completely forgot it was Battle of Britain today, and I always post this somewhere. Ah well, only 30 mins late

    #68101

    @roger429

        Missy didn’t use the term as a pejorative at

    My. You really are new around here, aren’t you?

    There is no non-pejorative use of the term. Putting the most positive possible spin on it still leaves it as a lazy, disrespectful dismissal of something that a lot of people have put a lot of careful thought into. But specifically, Missy doesn’t see it as correcting anything, but as ruining it. She hates the female Doctor to the extent of refusing to watch her.

    Does nobody read for context anymore?

    #68099

    @roger429

    The term is sometimes used in an attempt to correct for a perceived injustice, historical or current.

    It is never used like that – it is a pejorative, exactly as Missy meant it – used as a way to justify being offensive and getting all uppity when people pop back. I would challenge you to find a single instance of use in a positive sense. Those who actually work to:

    correct for a perceived injustice, historical or current

    are the ones on the receiving end, and it is never, ever, a compliment and it is never, ever, use as self-description.

    Quite why you continue to defend the indefensible is something only you know. What’s the point?

    #68095

    @toinfinityandbepond

    Lee at his finest – never once raising his voice.

    @roger429

    Did you or did you not ask what the phrase means?

    No.

    A thought experiment: every time you find yourself thinking the term “political correctness” might be appropriate in a sentence substitute in “being considerate” (because that is what the abusive term is intended to deny) and see how that makes the argument look.

    I believe you could be on the money with the being considerate playing a part with the selection of a women as the Doctor.” suddenly doesn’t seem quite so incisive, does it?

    #68092

    @roger429

    I’m perfectly aware of the history, etymology, historical usage (as a self-correcting satire by the the left on those who got a bit too ideological pure) and how that was warped and corrupted by conservative writers into an assault on any who committed the sin of giving a damn about the hopes, dreams and feelings of others. And from there, how it degenerated into a lazy weasel phrase use as self-serving justification for second rate edgelords wanting to be offensive without rebuke and to hide behind when their pitiful little prejudices were challenged.

    In 1963 it would have been exceptional indeed for the lead in any drama, never mind a new family sci fi show, to be anything other than a straight white male, and this was true of Doctor Who despite its first producer being a “pushy Jewish bird” and its first director a “posh wog” (and gay at that).

    It is not 1963 any more, and that is the only justification needed for a female Doctor.

    #68084

    @missy

    Nah,. Every time anyone wants to hide behind those pathetic weasel words as a justification for their prejudice and hatred they will get it with both barrels.

    #68083

    Saw a spoiler that the new season will feature Noor Inayat Khan.

    Look her up, if the name doesn’t ring any bells.

    #68082

    #WorldSuicidePreventionDay

    #68074

    @roger429

    the political correctness playing a part with the selection of a women

    What the fuck does this even mean?

    Click:

    #68058
    #68055
    #68041

    @thane16 (the outlier)

    The Julie Covington Evita, then?

    #68040

    @craig

    Sheee’s baaaaack…

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    I am fairly sure I would be less inept at using chopsticks.

    #68011

    @thane16

    Later, there came (ahem) different elements I liked.

    Is that the deep, rich storytelling drenched in metaphor and turning the mundane into the terrifying…

    ….or the hot chicks with superpowers?

    @roger429

    When talking to people it is courteous to tag  them (the “@” tag is under the profile picture). Not only does it make following conversations easier, also failure to tag is Troll Praxis 101, and I assume you don’t want to be associated with that.

    There’s a specific term for the sort of “piracy” you describe, but for the life of me I can’t remember it. It was heavily used in the early days of illegal filesharing, because analogue signals are unencrypted.

    Fun fact: Red Dwarf was specifically pitched as being doable on a very low, BBC-style budget. I often wonder if non-UK viewers appreciate just how funny the “Everyone remembers where they were the day Cliff Richard was shot” gag is.

    #68000

    @thane16

    “Take it hip to hip, rock it though the wilderness”….

    Pure filth.

    Which for some reason reminds me of the title of the album on which this was the first single. I’ll leave you to look it up:

    #67996

    @roger429

    Handy tip: if you are going to resort so early to the “lazy writers” trope you will get pretty short shrift around here.

    Let’s take Rosa, for example: a tale that had to accurately capture the pervasive and institutional racism of 1955 Alabama, in order that those unfamiliar with the story could understand the import of what was happening, and the potential consequences of the attempted tampering and at the same time doing this in a way that is entirely age-appropriate for the younger end of the audience to whom such racism is wholly alien, while ensuring that the banal dangers faced by the crew to not undercut the dramatic import of the bus scene. And all that while getting across that choices have consequences and that sometimes the real threat is much closer to home that you think.

    And all through that, satisfying whatever edicts have been send down by the higher-ups at the BBC (at the outset, for example, it was a requirement that all stories involved humans, more recently is would have been to broaden the audience for the next generation). And doing all of that within a budget (Doctor Who is one of the BBC’s most expensive shows, which is why ita production gets moved around – budgetary management).

    If you think that is lazy, then “lazy” does not mean what you think it means.

    #67994

    @roger429

    (General TV is for non-Who telly)

    4 episodes not at all on Earth and It Takes You Away largely in an alternate dimension….

    That’s actually about par for the course, same as Capaldi’s last season. The one before only had two non-Earth stories, the one before three (counting the Moon as Earth orbit, rather than alien). Pertwee’s Doctor was almost entirely Earth-bound.

    So you have to go back to season 7 to get more non-Earth stories.

    #67993

    @thane16 @whisht

    Can’t have the B52s without Roam. Not only a bangin’ choon, but quite sensationally smutty:

    #67972

    Hmmm…

     

    And this (click if it doesn’t embed)

    https://twitter.com/EMPIREREPORTNY/status/1163048956844224512

    #67947

    @craig @jimthefish

    I suspect I’m not the only one to get a very tempting offer from Kayla Noyes, who if she is in the USA as claimed I’m Chinese.

    Also, we seem to have acquired a bevvy of Indian removal firms…

    #67944

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    No, that’s Gene Krantz (memorable played by Ed Harris in Apollo 13).

    #67942

    @thane16

    Up in The Air

    Not me, which given my status as acolyte of the Church of the Blessed Kendrick is a bit of an oversight.

    Compose using the text tab to avoid gubbins.

    Isn’t Mork Mindy’s alien pal?

     

     

     

    #67933

    @winston

    stays at home with the dog.

    What’s the dog done to deserve that?!?!?!?

    #67922

    @thane16

    So you are just going to let death by space toilet seat slide, eh? You’re losing your touch!

    First Man is, indeed, a film with Ryan Gosling as Armstrong and the excellent Claire Foy as his wife. I was unaware of Wyck Godfrey, but First Man in some way atones for I, Robot which completely ignored the well defined nature of Asimov’s Robot Universe.

    The only flaw in Buffy S5 is that they keep implying that Ben and Glory are related, but won’t spell it out. Perhaps the writers were stoned.

    #67921

    @aklapa

    The answer to your question is found in this episode (if you click the Forums link at the top you will find a forum/ thread for pretty well every episode – this forum is for non-Who TV).

     

    #67917

    Couple of things:

    Those in the UK with an Amazon Prime subscription (possibly other markets, don’t know) can enjoy Dead Like Me, an absolutely delightful and bittersweet, but sadly short-lived, series from 2003-04 (cancelled for reasons of internal Showtime politics, so no good reason). It is an early Bryan Fuller show and concerns Georgia Lass, and aimless 18-year old drifting through her life until it is unexpectedly terminated by a toilet seat from the de-orbiting Mir space station. At this point she finds herself appointed as a Grim Reaper (not the Grim Reaper), charged with taking the souls of people just before they die and helping them on to whatever comes next. Meanwhile, her family copes with the grief of loss… It is funny, intelligent and kind, and also literate – a joy from beginning to end.

    Harder to find if you are not a US-based Hulu subscriber (or willing to use totallylegitimatedownloads.com) is season 4 of Veronica Mars , which is pretty amazing given that season 3 aired in 2006. In the original series, Kristen Bell played the titular character, a high school student in a town “With no middle class” where the working classes have no real choices, the upper classes have no functional moral compass and her best friend has been murdered. A sort of Nancy Drew through a Raymond Chandler lens. It was Bell’s break out role. When I *cough* acquired it after hearing some buzz, but not having a clue what it was about, I settled down to watch a couple of episode before supper and 10 episodes later it as 2:30am.

    The line that absolutely sold it to me: “You wanna know how I lost my virginity? So would I.”

    There was a reasonably successful fan-funded movie a few years ago, but the new series came somewhat out of the blue when Bell announced it last year. Being on Hulu and therefore free of Network TV restrictions it is able to go full Noir and is everything I would have wanted in a reboot. It picks up about 10 years after the original series, with Veronica now working as a private detective. It also does a thing that made me yelp with joy, because of who it will annoy…but that would be a spoilers. Not essential to have seen the first three series, but the pleasure is much richer when you have.

    Alas it will be a lot harder to find, thanks to it only being on Hulu in the US and no news of international distribution.

    I can think of only a handful of series that have grabbed me the way Veronica Mars did – let’s think…NuWho, obv, Buffy, the first season of Heroes, Red Dwarf, Thirteen Reason Why. Even Leftovers and Rectify were more slow burn.

    Both highly recommended.

    (BTW, Chernobyl is out of DVD/Bluray, @thane16 )

    #67915

    @thane16

    Olivier (with an i).

    A lot of Shakespeare productions seem to induce excessive..er..actorliness… in the cast. I may be that, because they are stage plays, people get sucked into ‘projecting’ but the effect can be a little distancing in stories that are often quite intimate.

    The other occasional source of coding text is when you copy and paste a username from under a profile pic. That is a little bit prone to bring a load of gubbins with it.

     

    #67883

    @whisht

    Only CapCom (capsule communications) is allowed to talk directly to the astronauts, and he is all they can hear. This was Charlie Duke, the guy with the slightly southern drawl who refers to people turning blue. I believe (but may be wrong) that CapCom is always a fellow astronaut (see also Ken Maddingley, Gary Sinese’s character in Apollo 13 – who did not have (German) measles, but was grounded for 13 because he had been in contact with school kids who had rubella).

    The “Flight” loop is the Flight Director’s loop, the mission controller – Gene Krantz, in this case. I am fairly sure he hear’s anything he wishes to hear. You catch him telling someone off for talking on “the loop” about something non-relevant.

    If memory serves the time delay is about two seconds.

    BTW, another film to watch is Hidden Figures. Although its timeline is slightly jiggled around for dramatic purposes all three central characters were real and John Glenn refused to fly until Katherine Johnson had double-checked the computer’s numbers.

    One more thing, the question everyone wants answering:

    #67875

    To wrap this up, this is totally worth 20 mins pof your time. Both comms with Eagle AND the flight loop.There was a lot going on…

    #67866

    @thane16

    Are you editing in Word or similar and then copy-and-pasting? If you do that you need to use the Text editor, not the visual one on this site. That stops the gubbins getting treated as text.

    Indenting quotes is good style when you want a clear separation from what someone else said and what you are saying. As with many things, you teacher is wrong.

    The Skeptics Guide podcast is my weekly listen.

    VD means something different to people of my generation….

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