• JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @missrori

    Yes, I think it’ll be well into s13 before we see any of this stuff returned to. I fully expect we’ll be seeing RuthDoc back in some form or another.

    @badwolfalice

    Yeah, there is already what amounts to a DWEU, I suppose. But I wonder if we are about to get something that keeps that extant but has another branch that can be explored…[Read more]

  • Nightingale replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @PhaseShift

    Hello! I’ve enjoyed reading your thorough and amusingly-worded criticisms (‘fanwank’ will soon pop up in my autocorrect, probably at an unfortunate moment when I’m texting my mother), some of which have bothered me too.

    If regenerative ability is down to the special ability of the Timeless Child, and therefore not exposure to the Time…

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  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @bluesqueakpip

    I hope so too – but I think, when articulating criticisms, there is a responsibility to assess whether there’s a genuine fault in the work, or whether the critic just doesn’t like this writer’s style

    Well, I would hope so too but I haven’t seen anyone not do that on this site. Not for years now. Writing, like all art, is subject…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @phaseshift

    But ‘I repeat’ this is as cynical a fanwank as you are likely to experience.

    Then we’re just going to have to agree to disagree – because where you see cynical fanwank, I see enormous creative possibilities.

    Yes, the BBC can sell the franchise now, into areas where British produced programmes are a niche taste. The actors (m or f)…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    Well, first of all, I think it’s important to say that it’s totally cool if Pip enjoyed the story, just as it’s totally cool if others did not. Personally, I don’t think Phase said anything remotely on the level of bowelstreak, nerdrotic, Noel Tardis and all those idiots. There’s little in his argument that wouldn’t have been considered…[Read more]

  • After a second viewing, I still have the same feelings as after the first (although I do take on board @phaseshift‘s point that the BBC hierarchy would need to approve a retcon–or re-retcon). Having said that, Part of my unease with where Chibnall is taking the show is that he seems to be taking it  back to RTD, if not JNT. Looking over the…[Read more]

  • Whisht replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    Interesting discussion – thanks @Phaseshift for the insight into ‘franchise’.
    And thanks @bluesqueakpip for giving me reasons to be a bit kinder to this story (arc?).

    For me, I like that Whittaker’s Doctor has developed over two series. I think it was conscious – almost a reverse of what they’d planned for Colin Baker.
    For WhitDoc she’s Fizzy at…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @phaseshift

    I could point out that the story not only retcons the Doctors history, but the outcome of he Cyberwars themselves (see Revenge of the Cybermen, Ark in Space and the various stories about the mass exodus from solar storms for more information). But what the hell.

    Wasn’t that dealt with in The Haunting at Villa Diodati when the Doctor…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @phaseshift

    Okay, I’m going to pull some quotes from your first post:

    That was as cynical a bit of fanwank as you are likely to experience.

    and

    Chris Chibnall who is a mediocre mind with a small gift for self selling.

    Those two sandwich praise for Robert Holmes and Philip Hinchcliffe from the Tom Baker era. Your point is that (another…[Read more]

  • PhaseShift replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @bluesqueakpip

    But I suppose my main point is that I’m developing a deep suspicion that had the Holmes/Hinchcliffe/Nation plot points been broadcast under the name ‘Chris Chibnall’, you would even now be telling me how awful they are.

    Well that’s a rather lame attempt to paint me as a ‘bowelstreak’ type naysayer, isn’t it? Especially when coupl…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @jimthefish

    For your average ‘Not We’, all they know (and want to know) is that the Doctor is a renegade Time Lord from Gallifrey who travels in a Police Box and has adventures.

    Except that part of that statement isn’t true. Well, it wasn’t true in 1963.

    Is there something wrong with a story that plays with the audience ‘knowing’ som…[Read more]

  • JimTheFish replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    Well, lots to unpack here. It’s almost like old times…

    @bluesqueakpip

    Really? Sherlock is currently over a hundred and thirty years old and Doctor Who has a much more flexible structure than good old Sherlock

    Allow me to clarify slightly. I’m not saying that the cultural text of Doctor Who won’t be around in 2063. It most definitely will. I…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @phaseshift

    your response is an inelegant method of not answering my main point.

    Inelegant, I grant you. But I suppose my main point is that I’m developing a deep suspicion that had the Holmes/Hinchcliffe/Nation plot points been broadcast under the name ‘Chris Chibnall’, you would even now be telling me how awful they are.

    I can accept that…[Read more]

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @phaseshift

    Can I say that I sincerely hope the story about Robert Holmes is a bit of fanwankery and isn’t actually true? Because if it is, that’s really not one of his best writing ideas. Hey, let’s put a load of production staff images as previous faces of the Doctor in one clip in one story, then put a completely arbitrary limit on the number…[Read more]

  • nerys replied to the topic The Timeless Children

    @davros Isn’t that last screenshot Brendan?

    It’s still not clear to me why the regenerations of the Timeless Child are so different from the regenerations we have seen of the Doctor. Throughout the series, the Doctor doesn’t age to that extent. The closest I can recall is Matt Smith’s Doctor in “The Time of the Doctor”, in which he had visibly…[Read more]

  • janetteB replied to the topic On The Sofa (10)

    This is going to be a long post as I have only just caught up with the new Sofa thread and there is much to comment on. (I have been making notes as I read through.)

    @phaseshift, Sorry to hear about the health problems. Hope you will soon be fully recovered. Good to have you back on the forum.

    @rob Hi. Good to have you back.

    @peacefrog Welcome.…[Read more]

  • blenkinsopthebrave replied to the topic Dr Who News (4)

    Hi @davros

    This is probably a question for our resident Time Lords, @craig, @jimthefish, @phaseshift, who manage the site. In the interim, there is always the “On the Sofa” thread, which is open to all Who-related discussion.

  • @craig, @jimthefish, @phaseshift

    Is there any chance of a new page for “TV Shows”?

    The page is in use again and it is way overdue for an upgrade.

    thanks.

  • Bluesqueakpip replied to the topic Fugitive of the Judoon

    @psymon – Yes, that’s a spoiler. That particular article is being discussed in the Spoilers forum

    @craig or @phaseshift or @jimthefish – can you do some post removal please? Ta

  • Whisht replied to the topic General Music thread 4

    So, I’ve managed to slog my way through a lot of backlog of music (though not the most recent ones)!

    @Arbutus – awww Ella – smoky precision. And yes, I’m overly happy with that description. What tone.
    @Craig – Maps is a great song; LOVED Mura Masa (reminded me of Sleaford Mods!).
    @Phaseshift – that is an amazing mashup! I loved the Slayer one t…[Read more]

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