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  • #33573
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    ok, at the risk of being very, very pedantic. @soundworld  ‘Gallifreyans Using Stealth’ was me  first XD

     

    #33451
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    @soundworld  Oh you got me thinking about acronyms too!

    GUS:  Gallifreyan Using Stealth   😉

     

     

    #33446
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    @deadmeat3171  Yes. I noticed that – see post #33436 😉

    #33443
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    @melloyello I completely disagree with pretty much everything you’ve said, but you are of course entitled to your opinion and that’s absolutely fine.

    Sorry to hear the show isn’t living up to your high standards, but I do wonder what exactly are the ‘high standards’ and what is it you think that makes the current season ‘not Doctor Who’? (Doctor, Tardis, companion, crazy adventures…sounds like Doctor Who to me ;))  And while we’re at it, has Who ever done ‘science tech’ properly?(time travelling box bigger on the inside etc.).

    Daytime soap opera plot lines? Really? Bloody hell if a daytime soap opera have one tenth of the plot lines on ANY Who episode then I’d be watching every one! I can’t help but look at what you say there, think for a millisecond about say the plot lines in the episode ‘Listen’ and go, ‘soap opera? nope, just not getting it’.

    For me this season has been extremely high standard and is very, very Doctor Who. I like its moved away from a getting-too-human-touchy-feely-Doctor (and don’t get me wrong, I absolutely adored Tennant’s Doctor and to a lesser extent Matt Smiths). I like that Clara is not travelling full time with the Doctor and has a life (of sorts) outside the Tardis and, although still not sure about Danny, I like the relationship with Clara, it adds a different angle to the stories.  But that’s just my opinion.

    Don’t get me wrong, there are still some aspects that annoy me or I feel go over the edge into silliness (Robot of Sherwood. Golden Arrow – ARGH!) but nothing is ever perfect and nothing will ever be everyone’s cup of tea. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride…

     

    #33436
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    Loved this episode and mostly one the first watch as well. The only things that jarred for me was Clara suddenly deciding it was all back to fine and she wanted to continue travelling with the Doctor, lying to Danny, lying to the Doctor. But reading the thoughts on here exploring the addiction angle that makes a bit more sense.

    Is it just me or in the scene where the Doctor is talking to himself in his cabin he speaks some of the lines in a VERY Tom Baker way?

    #33220
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    Going back to what someone said (sry can’t remember who) and has been echoed lots, about it being funny how some things bug people more than others in what they like to be ‘accurate’. I was just thinking that for me, last week, the space robots imaging sensors annoyed me a huge amount, but this week I am totally fine for the moon to be  a giant space egg and the change in gravity for not very good ‘reasons’ other than it makes the filming a lot easier! Although some of this I blame on being distracted by being terrified of the giant friggin SPIDER type things (ridiculous but cool).

    @thommck  interesting points, and the whole pause the tv and ask your sons what they would do is great :). For the record. I would have blown things up so I fail XD.

    I think I’ve also had a bit more of a ‘anything goes’ attitude ever since the gold arrow into the spaceship in episode 3 – which i hate as a plot device..but it does give us a great shot of the three of them firing the bow together which i do like.

    Anyway, behind me out the window, the giant space egg has just risen…now where are those nukes 😮 *kidding*  🙂

    #33161
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    @whisht  Ah sorry to accidentally burst your bubble. But don’t give up on your bonkette (lol)

    You are assuming the ‘judge’ is unbiased. Perhaps she is going to judge, but lets say is going to skew the evidence in the outcome she wants. Which is guilty as charged. Death by *whatever* and means she gets his lovely new life and new set of regenerations to herself because she is EVIL judge who set up it all in the first place 😉

    #33146
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    @cryptonomica. Welcome! And good points,. Agree this is Clara finally having to step into the Doctor’s shoes, everything else has been only at risk to herself of being an observer. And as you say, I think at the end she is more angry and scared at herself for nearly making the wrong decision than she is at the Doctor for putting her in that position.

    Perhaps the Doctor does this because he is still looking for an answer to ‘Am I good man’ and this is an opportunity to force her to make a decision like the ones that he has to make and take responsibility for all the time, the goal being trying to get her to understand him better because he feels she is the only one who is even close to understanding him, perhaps even more than he himself does (I’m going here with the regeneration reboot really having messed up his head – someone mentioned that in an earlier thread about other time lord going a bit doolally after new set of regenerations). So what he did could have been partly feeling he did need to leave the decisions up to the humans (which I think was right), but also sneak in a selfish, desperate reason of his own (understandable if he is still very unsure about himself).

     

    #33077
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    @scotsman418 Sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy the episode. That’s totally up to you of course but….

    “Looking forward to the assistant being left with the Daleks?” What are you talking about? Are you referring to Asylum? Because that is an old episode with a different character.

    Although I’m not totally with any of the science in this episode (most of it is total nonsense) I can let a lot of it slide cos…you do get this is SCI FI (and/or fantasy type sci fi you know?). Time traveling blue box for example? You accept that but not giant spider egg? Please…

    Life in the oceans does not solely rely on tidal motions. The movement of the currents and the weather is far more to do with temperature differential than anything to do with the moon. The sun has more effect on that does it not?.

    Why can’t big scary spider be bacteria? Have you seen electron microscope close ups of these things, they are frigging weird!

    You are entitled to your opinion of course. And bring up some very good points.  But…just blasting out criticism at the writers/producers? Please. You want anyone to listen, bring a better argument.

     

    #32975
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    I have to admit. I would have pressed the button. It was the rational thing to do, and as @bluesqueakpip quite correctly says it is a terrible way to make a decision.

    @miapatrick, yes the bombs would affect the Earth, not because of the detonation itself (too far away) but the aftermath. Large chunks of moon raining down on the Earth – exactly the same way ‘bit of eggshell’ might. Actually, that’s a point…either way there is going to be a hell of a lot of debris (causing a risk to the Earth) and no moon (stopping the tides). And you are either left with nothing or a huge great space alien thing.

    Oops, may have just invalidated my whole argument!

    #32967
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    Well that episode certainly scared me, a lot to do with that is because I cannot stand spiders (yes, I know its my username, it’s also my nickname in real life…ironic eh XD).

    I too will have to watch a second time but overall on first watch I generally enjoyed it (apart from giant spiders. ARGH!). Now I’ll never be able to look at the moon in the same way! (add that to the list of statues, shadows, cracks in walls and so many other things Mr Moffat). I’m still slightly struggling to get why the Doctor did what he did and why. Was he trying to make Clara ‘grow up’ (what was that line about ‘take the stabilisers off’) and make her realise exactly what it was like to make the BIG decisions.

    Not entirely convinced about Courtney being there, was the source of a few funny moments but really she seemed a bit redundant (apart from being there to see it all happen – rather like Clara in Time Heist)…got the feeling this is setting up something more substantial later on in the series though, it has that feel to it…on the other hand we’ve had kids in the tardis last season and that went nowhere!

    Clara angry at the Doctor at the end was really, really good. He didn’t do a particularly good job of defending himself..but maybe he realised she was angry and needed to calm down…although on the other hand he isn’t particularly good at any other point figuring humans out.

    Hmmm…lots to think about, must go watch again!

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    #32961
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    Lol @arbutus not ever quite happened like that…yet! But that is indeed a funny image.

    Intriguing idea about Missy being interested in the Doctor and calling him ‘boyfriend’ because death follows him closely, and if that’s the case is which is why she takes a personal interest in him and perhaps more specifically a personal interest in people who have died sacrificing themselves for him  (because I think that still stands, we’ve only seen her take an actual interest in 2 people so far?). Perhaps she want to know why they died for him…hmmm, maybe not.  Her line in the first episode “I do like his new accent though, I think I might keep it”  continues to intrigue me!

     

    #32932
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    I’m a bit late to the party but here’s my 2p. Overall I enjoyed the episode, some very funny lines. Robot was a bit meh in terms of plot but looked very cool.

    On first watch my main point of annoyance was the invisibility watch that meant the blitzer couldn’t see the Doctor and yet could see the footprints – the filming of it gives the impression of being thermal imaging (badly – ARGH!). And yes, yes I KNOW it’s a futuristic space watch and a futuristic space robot and the show is fundamentally about travelling through all of time and space in an impossible machine but sometimes its little things like that that I can’t get out of my brain 🙂  I remember back when watching Spooks there would ALWAYS be one point during every episode where I shouted out “you can’t do that” in reference to some nonsense they were doing with thermal imagery or image processing (tv and films have a LOT to answer for about what my management think is actually possible to do with image processing!).

    Anyway..that rant aside (let it go Spider…just let it go!).  The Danny/Doctor relationship is very interesting, I didn’t expect Danny to react the way he did. Oh and in that Tardis scene this is where the watch was very good, loved that the Doctor could sense Danny somehow. However I thought Danny’s ‘saving the planet by doing a somersault over the robot’ was utter pants.  Clara gets the pathetic line “Me? what can I do?” when the Doctor is asking her to distract it and you just KNOW that if it were any other episode she would DO something (and by the way does she not still have the damn Sonic at this point? um…maybe use that?) – but no it is left to Danny to ‘save the day’. Now I understand why all this happens and plotwise that’s fine (Danny saves the day and redeems himself to the Doctor – or at least starts to), I just thought it was handled a bit clumsily.

    Other than these couple of (what are really very minor niggles) I enjoyed it. The “Go away humans” sign being a particular highlight and also the Doctor using the broom as a barrier between him and Clara when they are talking in the staffroom. I wonder how much of that was scripted and how much was Capaldi using the prop  🙂  and now I’m trying to think of some bonkers theory to link the broom with the theoretical broom he talking about in Deep Breath…nope nothing so fa, I shall ponder some more 😉

    @oblique, yes i thought some of the score was very Sherlock as well!

    Watching the episode again (and apologies to anyone who already commented on this) I noticed Chris Addison character says to the policeman “Stovok Blitzer sounds like. We’ve had a few in from that, I wouldn’t feel too bad”  which seems to mean there were multiple deaths and all brought to heaven/promised land/nethersphere. So it seems like a bigger operation than just to do with Missy/Doctor which is an interesting twist.

    Counting down the hours until the next episode tic toc tic toc…

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    #32282
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    Oh I like the idea of Blue/Pink mirroring the two different time streams. So perhaps the one where he did destroy Gallifrey is Blue (Journey Blue was a soldier) and the one where he doesn’t is Pink (Danny Pink is an ex-soldier)? @juniperfish, I think I too shall go back and watch all the eps again for more Blue/Pink clues!

    Anyone else think of the Torchwood Children of Earth tank with the 456 when Twelve was nose to nose with the Tellers tank?

    If the Teller picks up on guilt is it just specific guilt about robbing the bank? Otherwise you think it would right away pick up the Doctor as being a towering transmitter of ultra guilt! Perhaps he can block that telepathically – but if that’s the case why bother with the memory worm?

    @serahni Agree with everything you said there about Clara, very well put. I do think the Doctor finally recognises he needs help, he needs someone. I think I just felt initially with this particular episode she was not required for the bank heist so why did he take her along. But thinking about it more and looking at the bigger picture (rather than just the bank plot) this is the Doctor showing Clara (and himself and us as well) that he is a good man. He helps 5 different people here, Psi, Saibra, the 2 Teller creatures plus Karabraxos.

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    #32231
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    First impressions of this episode, i enjoyed it but there was a lot i was’t sure of. I suspected the Doctor being the face behind it all pretty early on. Maybe that changed my perspective of things. On a second watch though got so much more out of the episode (As usual). First time we have seen this Doctor socialising properly, laughing, having a joke! That was really interesting.

    But, question: Is it just me or was Clara totally unneeded in this episode at all?. Apart from the brilliant comedy at the beginning (face coloured in and needing to reach a shelf) I felt she was completely unnecessary to the plot.  Everything that happened would have happened exactly the same way whether or not she was there? It felt she was just a white board for the Doctor to voice his theories on. Now, given that is a role for the companion fine..but really why was she there? Why didn’t the doctor leave her with his architect self. On the other hand, i liked she took a more backward role and it was all about the Doctor this episode.

    The other thing that caught my eye through this episode was RINGS on peoples hands. The Doctor wears a ring on the 4th finger of his left hand. we’ve seen that before. could be do do with river and being married. maybe not. BUT more importantly, Clara is wearing a ring on her hand as well, middle finger left hand?. PLUS psi also has a ring left hand on his little finger?,  As far as i can remember i don’t see a ring on sabre (or however you spell it) hand. would need to look again For all this rewatch the scene in the lift/room place as they wait for the dimension bomb to go off.

    Later on. Watch ms delfox (Keeley hawes! i only just saw looking at credits, didn’t recognise her!). She has four rings. TWO on each hand. the two on her left are gold and are on the same fingers Clara and the Doctor wear rings on (middle and index). She is also wearing two rings on her other hand pinky and one other side…they are black.

    I dunno what to conclude about all that but there is a LOT of hand waving in this episode, almost making us LOOK at peoples hands to see some sort of message…or maybe i am seeing patterns that aren’t there!

    Off to watch again and spend the entire time looking at people hands in case i’m onto something!

    Whaddya mean obsessive!? 😉

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    #32130
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    @whisht   Nope. My forum name is not related to anything 200o AD. It comes from a long time ago in a galaxy far far away..plus..stuff.  Although  the ‘Errol’ reference is a bit spooky!.

    Scottish sig quote is to do with 1st ep of new series + i am scottish. Also, for the record (not that it matters). i am a she 😉

    On another note, slightly intrigued by  @idiotsavon. Blake’s 7 ref or am i just reading too much into  things XD

    #32128
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    Well i for one say we can go there! I am Scottish and I am British. I am very happy with the result today.  But I also recognise, so many other people are not. It’s difficult, there has been so much debate, so much division. Personally i do not think we need Independence at all, what we need is more powers for Scotland.

    And please, do NOT take those of us that voted no that somehow we are anti Scottish (i’m sure noone here will, but there are others who might..and have). I agnosied over this decision. It was really difficult. My head and heart conflicted a great deal.

    But regardless of the outcome. This showed to the world how you can do things. How change can happen. No guns, no bombs, no bullets. Talk. chat. time. Democracy CAN make things happen. Wow. We should be so proud! record turnout. Ok so not independence, that’s not what we voted for this time. But CHANGE. Westminster has to make good on their promises for more power for Scotland. And equally important the long due debate and change in politics in England, and Wales and Northern Ireland. Now, maybe this seems naive and believe me i am a VERY skeptical person. But once, just once I am trying to be positive about all of this.

    Scotland has not lost Salmond. He is only stepping down from first minister and has stated he will continue in politics.  If he doesn’t end up as #1 negotiator on the team with Westminster i may have to eat my Fez. He’s not everyones cup of tea, I actually do not like him for many reasons, but i respect him for all he has tried to do for Scotland. And i really hope he does end up on the team for negotiating, he is a force to be reckoned with.

    For some reason am i thinking: “One day, I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine.” XD maybe one day the time and situation will be right..its just not now.

    This time yesterday i was faced with a very strange feeling. I was looking out of my window, (from here I can see Holyrood – Scottish parliament in Edinburgh) the haar (mist) was everywhere, adding to the uncertain and difficult atmosphere. We didn’t know how it would go then, results only just floating in. And i suddenly realised it is not every day you head off to go to bed, and not be sure what county you are going to wake up to in the morning. I will never, ever forget that feeling.

    Or… what i need is a time machine XD

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    #32110
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    @idiotsavon Ah, then the response to tell your boss that the ‘trousers of iron’ (oh hello, episode title?) are a fixed point in time and will be instrumental in the destruction of the entire human race unless YOU can save it. I then recommend waving your hands about in an enigmatic way while brandishing some sort of screwdriver with a coloured LED attached and babbling incoherently  (alternatively insert any favoutie Doctor mannerisms/catchphrases in here)

    On the other hand i do not condone this as a form of rapid promotion of job prospects XD

    Ok! Need to go register this Mr Men / Dr who thing before some other time traveler…oh. Bollocks!

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    #32107
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    @idiotsavon  Of course we are over analysing and conferring meaning that isn’t there (or is there, who knows!). That’s not wasting life, that’s fun! 😉

    “State your name, rank and intention: The Doctor, doctor, fun”

    Personally I’m waiting for Mr Men titles: Mr Timelord Victorious, or Mr Angry Eyebrows…or Little Miss impossible girl…oh dear, i may have started a thing….XD

    Also, totally agree with you that the slower pace is a welcome difference. I loved the faster paced stuff for other doctors, but it totally fits Capaldi’s doctor to be a  slow(er) burner.

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    #31988
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    @janetteb thats a very interesting thought about the rescuing of someone…but I’d love to see the meeting of the management where that was the reason for the adding of the chair.  Bearing in mind this (if i remember correctly) seems to be the first venturing into time travel as a serious prospect by humans. And that would be – can you fire someone into next week and they actually arrive there test. Not a full flung rescue mission. It just doesn’t tie in with what you do when prototyping first ideas. But,  I might just be applying to much of my Engineering brain at this plus my annoyance at management who seem to exist in order to prevent you from doing actual Engineering XD

    On completely different matter. Various comments made me think about this more…and not sure if it’s been discussed earlier but If everyone has a shadow. Is the Doctor’s shadow Missy?

    And if so, with what we saw in Listen that it is your own MIND playing tricks (or messing with you due to your own insecurities) then your shadow is perhaps your other darker self /reflection in your own head. For most people that shadow wouldn’t be too bad, but for the Doctor…BAD.

    Tenuous links but that could fit in with: Mirror references: your own reflection. Shadow/darkness references: your own BAD reflection. In which case Missy is potentially a manifestation in the Doctor’s head of his own guilt…so basically, that’s heading into dreamlord territory.

    OR, Missy is just a physical manifestation of a bad Mary Sue fan fiction where she is in league with the TARDIS saving all the people that sacrificed themselves for the Doctor so when she finally reveals herself to him she can show him nonone died! Rid him of ALL his guilt so he falls in love with her and travels all of time and space with her forever. XD. And if that happens I shall personally decapitate Steven Moffat with a spoon. 😉

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    #31932
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    I love the blackboards and the chalk 🙂

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    @Purofilion  very true. The rest of the ship design is not very cost cutting for one man in space!

    @scaryb  Good point…although you build an experimental machine, actually would expect to lose it (its a huge risk), so you build it for 1…if it does come back then  you build a machine for 2.

    Hmmm…ok, so thinking about it more then I have just probably invalidated my own argument – that at this point we are further into the design/test stage and at the what if we build a time machine that can hold more people  (i.e going from Mercury Capsule to Space shuttle) . I think it’s just that from the feel of the episode, this felt like a first complete prototype test with only one person, not 2.   But the more i think about it, the more it makes sense this mission would have had 2 people and something sinister has happened to crewmate #2! (as has been mooted before). Ohhh! I’m going to have to go back and watch this again with that idea in my head XD

    #31915
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    A little late to the party since cos I’ve just joined, but just for the record, fav other TV shows have to be:

    Sci fi type: Blake’s 7, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica (both old and remake), DS9, Firefly, Space above and beyond.

    Others: A-team,  Blackadder, Bottom, Young ones, Fithy Rich and Catflap.

    No doubt I’ve missed something in that, but that’s off top of the head for the moment 🙂

     

    #31913
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    Although  a nice idea about Orson insisting on a second chair for his ship…it would never happen that way (him asking for another seat). The bean counters would never allow it in a design. You are sending one man to do a mission. You build him a one man  ship.  Everything else is just extra expense (this happens, with everything now, and I’m sure this will not have changed 100 years into the future!).  He doesn’t agree? You find another pilot.

    But then that still, DOES leave the question of (given that it seems to be just him…I’m going by the brief news scene in the episode which seems to indicate this) WHY there are two seats..someone earlier mentioned a crewmate who must have disappeared. Ohhhhhh. That thought is getting me the more I think about it!

    Am loving all the discussions (so wish I’d found and joined this forum years ago!). Have to say, for the Listen episode, my favour note so far is definitely from @pedant    “Two men, both once frightened and lonely children, reflected in each other through the eyes of a kind, but strong and decisive, teacher.”   I really like that 🙂

    I still want to know who (or what it was) boinked the Doctor on the head! That’s still niggling me!

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    #31829
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    It’s my first ‘theory’ post, please be gentle 🙂

    Something that got me that I can’t stop thinking about (other than the ENTIRE episode which just explodes my brain each time) and I don’t think has been discussed in detail here yet (although someone has mentioned something along these lines, i can’t remember who sorry – names, not my thing 😉 is exactly who or what knocked the Doctor out cold?

    It has to be something real, because there is a mark (and blood!) there. So: Speculation:

    a) Maybe it’s as the dialogue between Clara and Orson suggests, that there was a lot of stuff flying about and he was hit by it.

    Although I accept that as a theory, the undercurrent looks and body language between them in this scene does not support this, neither of them appear to actually believe that.

    b) So was it the invisible creature’ that attacked him?

    If the creature is really imaginary, then no. It can’t be. Something real caused that injury. Orson evades the question when Clara asks him what he was afraid of.

    c) So then…Orson must have been the one that attacked the Doctor?

    This is actually what my first thought when watching the episode. That Orson knocked him out in order to get him back into the TARDIS is and stop being an idiot – as the Doctor was so desperate to find out what was going on he perhaps resisted being ‘rescued’. Or maybe the pair of them were so caught up in being afraid they attacked each other and Orson knocked the Doctor out?

    Or maybe I’m just misunderstanding something that everyone else found very obvious! XD

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    #31827
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    So, a while back I made a couple of Doctor Who music video things. Always meant to go back and do more but it never quite happened. Anyway, going to throw these two out there to see what you guys think. Both are 10th Doctor based and set to Amy Macdonald songs that just seemed right to me at the time.

    First one is Mr Rock ‘n’ Roll

    Second one Wish for something more

    You like let me know…you don’t like well..meh XD

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    #31713
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    Wow. Just Wow!

    For me, that episode was  just great. I did not see the 2nd of it half coming at all. I thought it was a good, oh look, there’s the link with the Doctor, Clara and Danny and oh we are setting up something to come..and, then…the OTHER stuff happens.

    Yes, yes there are plot holes and what?!bits, and believe me I am one of the people who will usually pick up on this stuff VERY quickly and pedantically..but the overall i love where this is going!

    I really think that there is no ‘tricks’ being played here… it was the same place the Doctor went to with the ‘Moment’, that was to the same place to run away to when he was young and scared, and that was on Gallifrey.

    Always remember Occums razor…

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    #31693
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    Again, late to the party due to only recently joining. But once again will throw my thoughts in..if anyone is still ‘Listen’ing (ha…did you see what i did there? No? Ah ok, I’ll get me coat 😉

    This episode was the first one I properly enjoyed after not being sure of the first few (since then I have to say I have gone back and watched Deep Breath and Into The Dalek and have completely changed my initial view on them).

    I liked the more lightheatedness of it. My favourite moment was probably the Doctor shouting “This is just getting silly!”  at the end of the archery scene, but that’s because I had shouted the EXACTLY the same thing at the TV seconds before he did. In hindsight, that is where i may have fallen in love with Capaldi Doctor XD

    The shooting the arrow into the spaceship crossed the line for me, it’s silly and stupid. However, I have to switch my Engineering brain off during these things and let things just go…sometimes it is harder than others!

    Clara and the Sheriff was excellent. Loved the ‘reflection’ dynamic of Robin v Doctor at being a hero…which is kind of the reflection we’ve had with the main characters in the first 3 eps so far (half face man, dalek and now Robin Hood)…i think that’s quite clever, we (and he himself) are trying to figure out who he is (am i a good man etc) and we get to see him literally dealing with that through the episodes. Ok, it’s not subtle but  think its quite effective!

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    #31676
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    Hello all,

    My first post in an episode forum. So apologies if I don’t properly quote everyone who has made these points already. Just throwing my fez in the ring.

    Having read though some (but not all) of the posts seeing a lot of chat about Missy being the Master. To be honest IMO if she if going to be a Timelord…I think she’s the Rani. If its not that direction, I like the CAL or Matrix theories. But no doubt there is some sort of radioactive piano Moffat is ready to drop on our heads we haven’t even thought of XD

    With the ‘promised land’ location looking so much like a previous episode I think there HAS to be a link there. If they were just going for ‘generic garden’, even if they had used the same location they could have easily disguised it (as others have pointed out).

    For me, the Clara/Doctor dynamic is far stronger with 12 than with 11. Up until now I had considered her to be a bit forgettable (apart from one or two very good performances..but in both of those she died! Snowman one and the Dalek one). The scene in the restaurant with these 2  is probably my favourite in this episode. Oh, apart from the earlier line “Don’t look in that mirror, it’s absolutely furious” LMAO at that one every time!

    Oh and, Strax is fast becoming one of my favourite characters.

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    #31671
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    I am a proud to be Scottish. I am proud to be British. I will be voting no because I firmly believe we are better together. Not everyone thinks my way. I have no problem with that, it is up to everyone to make their own decision for their own reasons.

    But what i have disliked about the ‘neverendum’ is the way that (some) members of the yes campaign try to make out that those of us who do not want independence are somehow less loyal and less patriotic Scots, that we are somehow betraying Scotland by voting no – and they can (on occasion) actually be pretty aggressive about this.

    Example: Near where i live there is a long stretch of road. It is probably a 50/50 split as to yes and no banners/posters along this road. Every single one of the no posters has been defaced in some way…none of the yes ones have. I think that is quite telling.

    I also have wondered for some time no why it is ‘No Thanks’ and ‘Yes’….whatever happened to ‘Yes Please’?

    I’m just hoping Sept 18th isn’t a fixed point in time 😉

     

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    Hello everyone!

    Have been having a great time reading through posts about the new episodes and thought it was about time I actually joined so I can stick my oar in too!  Some very interesting theories and comments floating about here! (and the occasional troll but that’s what tissue compression eliminators are for. Or perhaps we should…melt them with acid!)

    A quick background. Have been watching the show since, well as long as I can remember :).  Peter Davison was MY Doctor waaay back then. With the new series, David Tennant fast became MY Doctor (of the new series). I was very, very VERY devastated when he left…so much so I think I could never quite take to Matt Smith – which is a shame because he was so very good. And, just when I finally got round to properly liking him he goes and changes!

    It has taken me a little bit of time to get used to him but I am now unashamedly a huge Capaldi Doctor fangirl (always loved the actor so really wanted him to be good). I love the new ‘darkerish’ Doctor route, that he can be coldly logical at times, and rude! plus I love that he is Scottish. Also I think it has catapulted Clara into a completely new and far better place – IMO she never quite worked with 11 but is the perfect foil for 12. Egomaniac needy game players the pair of them!

    The episode this weekend pretty much blew my head off! WOW! (and that is all i will say – spoilers sweeties).  I shall be off to give that a second watch pretty soon…or technically give half of it a second watch and half of it a third watch (there was some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff due to fireworks happening on the Forth Bridge on Saturday (it’s 50th b’day – bah that was SO last year ;)) and people arriving back halfway through the episode so requiring rewatch from the start…gah!).

    Anyway, see you all soon i expect, or later. One of those….

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