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26 August 2019 at 04:38 #68025
@arbutus great to see you up and about on the Forum! I didn’t know you were in Alberta. Being as I have my secret ways I think I was in Alberta (for 2 weeks) when you were in school there. But it was your last 2 yrs of school and I was 13-14 so….maybe not. But the Arbutus and puro line may have at least danced to the same music at the time, so bonus for this 🙂 And yes Rock Lobster….what was it with the falling down and getting back up again?
I remember dressed up in various teacher clothes doing a Halloween gig where my friend imitated our history teacher who loved her tight jeans and denim shorts for work. She was a tanned teacher and so my friend, a very cream skinned young lady had to ‘paint’ her legs brown for the shorts-portion of the act. Tells you how long ago this was, as there were no tanning products in 1982-84 in Australia, then, at least. Typically, I was dressed as the “boring librarian” who I didn’t think was boring at all!
I need a song about a library. Or….maybe…. I have an idea for a surprise….
I know, I’ve seemed to change names AGAIN. It was Thane’s idea to go for Syzygy…A The OA -type-of-thing.
26 August 2019 at 02:16 #68021@xad4 and others who love the Osprey Project in Wales. They’re closing off sections at the end of the month as they’re building a new wildlife centre. Also, Peris was very hungry!
25 August 2019 at 04:51 #68018Hey! Sorry, what’s an “Emily Post ?”
Yeah, here, we do tag people because Syzygy might confuse people or they may not really want to read that again. Short story: mum and I share the tag. Mum’s sick a bit, so sometimes I type for myself, others I type for her. I’m doing that now. And when I DO type for mum, I always let people know that. It’s just part of the general site behaviour here which is extremely helpful actually. There are things we have which no other site has ever had. There are no ads, for instance which means that lots of fantastic posts can be read over many, many different years on every new Doctor and old. I was reading some from 2013 when I joined and the genuine KNOWLEDGE was stunning on every level. I will state outright that I am friends with some of these people. I don’t want to annoy @mudlark or @arbutus but these are close friends and also @pedant. He’s a generous and kind man who I have been friends with for a long time and also whisht.
It’s hard to understand how you’d have taken antenna and analogue signals at the point in say, 1971 in the States. But it sounds….interesting. I haven’t seen more than a few eps of Red Dwarf. I remember the dialogue and it was cracking! I liked Star Trek and hosted Star Trek parties at the house from 9 til midnight on Friday and Saturday nights after uni as I was in the enviable position of hainvg a she-cave in the mid-80s with my own small sink (which I advertised as a wet bar) and a fridge as well as a hastily built all brick bathroom (which people would call a steam punk bath these days and charge 15 thousand for it!).
Doctor Who re-runs were all over the telly in the 1970s and new ones from the 80s also came in “chunks” of episodes with Tom Baker (by new, you can see I mean very old -it’s all relative at this point) and later our funny, celery wearing, tennis clothed Doctor who I liked a lot. In fact, like a lot of girls I think I had a bit of a crush on him. After that, though, and not for want of trying I didn’t see anymore Who until the Big Movie Flop which had the brother of a famous female actor in the title “evil” role. I know I left the cinema excited about the special FX, and the realisation, yet again, that “those Irish brothers are excellent actors” but I hope none of them get the gig should it return.
And then I saw Paul McGann in the web-sodes in 2013 and bit my tongue. He was incredible. In the 10 or so minutes he was on screen changing or morphing into the War Doctor. I think Doctor Who then was at its peak. But then we had Capaldi and hit another ‘peak’ and I don’t see too many troughs.
All and any errors are attributed to Syzygy the Younger always and forever. This is why we have children.
Also I caught what you said about your late wife @roger429. I hope it wasn’t sudden? But then as even the best of screenwriters say, “no, yes, it’s always sudden.” And I probably have that quote wrong too. The “yes” could come first. But my sentiment is genuine. And I hope you have many, many happy memories and perhaps children to share them with?
25 August 2019 at 04:18 #68017@pedant hehe. Ma-mah yelled up at me to answer this. So, I have the computer (the only thing in the house that’s not my phone I can get internet on as the school computer locks you off the internet on certain hours of the weekend. We’re permanently locked out of youtube which is damn annoying as there are 1st class lectures on philosophy and no YT access to Ted Talks which is silly But I’m trying to do the syllabubble thing (“Ma- mah”) with how people in England, the young Queen would say “pa -pah” or “grand-papah” with the accent on the last syllable? I’m now going to keep saying or writing “syllabubble” ALL the time!! 🙂 🙂
You know the bit in season 6 when people are looking at a dancer at the Bronze and it’s Dawn? And Xander gets embarrassed. I felt that too! Like she was my older sister. Xander was seeing her through “I’m virtually her elder brother or young uncle.”
I’m the younger one here. Not the mum Syzygy which she explained up top. Maybe we should be in the Pub for all this? So @roger429 the other area is part OF the Forum -it’s not another Forum. Mum found this Doctor. Forum when searching for answers to questions about the Smith Doctor. Being all musical 🙂 mum really likes the musical themes from the new “Doctor ” theme reaching back to Eccles and Tennant and the simple melodies of Donna and Clara. I remember the Clara theme, the others not too much and I also like Smith’s speeches….right, memory ‘thread’ @whisht. I’ll head there.
The Younger One 😉
25 August 2019 at 03:49 #68016you. Never. Miss. Anything. (YNMA). That’s your name now, sorry, but it is. You asked for it 🙂
I love Wah-wah. Possibly boring anecdote: I had this playing really loud to a group of very sick gentlemen in the States (fiddling around with music therapy) as well as the Beatles and Merseyside groups.
The patients were blue collar workers who opened up about music, how they met their wives (one guy had 4. He was a strict Catholic and all 3 had died from a variety of ailments), what they liked to do like going down to various halls having come home late from work on a Friday saying, “gal, get your glad rags on, put on some lipstick and Marjorie is looking after the kid.” They all started talking at once, colour gone for weeks returned to their cheeks and the ‘lead’ chap (who did more talking) said it was 1973 and his wife was pregnant. So pregnant that, in fact, shortly after listening to these songs (he included Wah-wah which I might have added in for the laughs) and other Harrison choons; and doing a slow dance to Johnny Cash, her waters broke and they just made it to the hospital. She wanted to name him “George” but he was flat-out against it so they named him Paul.
Anywaaay, one of the guys had an acoustic guitar and having collected it from the lockers started playing it over the next few weeks but being LH I really needed to re-string the one I was given for 10 bucks. The patient did it for me. And being no kind of guitarist at all I followed him slowly, tongue stuck out, stretching index fingers over sharp cat-gut with basic chords. On this song he’d get impatient because the “entire song demands a resolution on the 5th chord and you, sweetie are taking waaay too long. You like to keep a man waitin’ do ya?”
Perhaps unusually I burst into laughter and the other 3 patients in the ward did too. It was a wonderful few weeks, I learnt a lot but never found out what happened to them in hospice care. And I never followed thru with music therapy as I was never really good at it! I had other musicological potential 🙂 Most things would freak me out -as mentioned in The Sofa
24 August 2019 at 09:42 #68010Ah yes, so syzygy came from a show my son loves (and me too) called The OA. Except he had also learnt that, in astronomy, it’s an alignment of three bodies including a celestial body like the sun.
Also, practically, my son and I are both holders of the same name -and in poetry, and music, particularly during Homeric times (the music, not necessarily the poetry: I’ll leave @mudlark to assess this as resident Latinist with whom I was having an interesting translatory discussion some months ago about a piece of generally- known poetry associated with Virgil and others…) singing prosody, that is pyrrhic prosody, has two short sylla-BUBBLES . 🙂
It can also mean 2 completely different things. So, the Younger hasn’t known cassettes or VHS or home movies or transistors but I myself (the Elder) grew up somewhat like you. Except in Aus we had access to Doctor Who when I was a small girl. I loved the cold, dry and foreboding doctor in Pertwee. I actually liked his authoritarian nature.
Says a lot about how I was brought up, I guess. Males were respected bread winners and women, like my mother, sewed and cooked, mended and chatted with other ladies for 40 minutes during the wash cycle before they’d rush back in the house, and with a wooden spoon, take the boiled sheets from the washer and feed them, with large rubber gloves, into the spinner.
I really hated wash days. I was 3 foot nothing and big white sheets with steam coming off them being spun about always made me think the machine would lift off at precisely the point it reached an ‘apex’ of sound. After which I’d dive into my room and under my day bed/cot.
I was a child easily frightened. I could never have been a Sarah, a Rose, a Martha or a Donna.
In a sand pit, was the small child. :ll
24 August 2019 at 03:51 #68008And another Voice of d’Beehive…
24 August 2019 at 03:27 #68007For a child so busy with assignments, he sure has a lot to say, does Syzygy. Mind you, I agree: lots of music his friends listen to is similar with pulsating back beats, over- bass 16 tracks & is wholly digital with almost nothing that I would say gives the impression of natural. Certainly if the Beatles, Bowie, ELP could do things with Moogs and 20th century ‘classically’ inspired western tonal keyboard music and have it sound ‘live’ and flawless then current genx can do the same with digital inputs.
24 August 2019 at 02:31 #68006@roger429 OK. I will thanks. That’s a long way from here (evening). I’m about to go & play 2 football matches one after the other. So night and evening won’t come for another 6 hours!
Action’s fine! I remember at 12 loving Buffy FOR the action. Later, there came (ahem) different elements I liked.
I really liked Eccleston’s first episode “Rose” (and then compare that with “Rosa” -and that’s one stunning attribution and comparison) because how darn BIG it was! The London wheel, and in later episodes, Big Ben with Capt Jack on his invisible spaceship in the 2 parter “Are you my mummy?” That scared me sh**less when I was 8.
Then, we hand “Blink” and my jaw dropped. It dropped even further with Donna and the intro of River in The Silence in The Library and the magnificent library scenes. I found the 60s hard to take. As I got older I saw Troughton and Pertwee and was more into it?
Mum (the other Syzygy) loved Pertwee’s era? Her first post ever here (6 years ago) was about the long dim, creepy corridors, black and white, hushed instructions, terrifying mind-bending aliens. Her own mum had died in 1974 and so Mum, when 7 found solace in Pertwee’s “charm” and his dominant behaviour. It gave her somewhere to hide, someone she could follow. It was very important to her.
I have a distant cousin who’s now 11, felt the same way with our latest Doctor. She’s young, a genius and a girl, so I think she’s finally found someone who, like her is brilliant at maths or science and making things on adventures when she had almost no-one three years ago she could relate to, who was feminine, young, good looking and could talk a million miles an hour (which my cousin does. Bless her heart).
Syzygy.
24 August 2019 at 01:43 #68004I take your point. Agreed. But. Many of the original dr who stories actually were historical stories. At 17, I’ve seen, probably, 11 of these thru a period in ’63, ’69 with the Dr Original (Dr O not Doctor No!) & Pat Troughton.
Man, were some SO slow. I realise today, when you put a piece like Rosa up against ANY episode in the 60s and 70s (& ’80s) you’ll end up with a realisation that a) there are no hard traditions with Who (it’s why it’s survived) b) many current eps in After Gap are brilliant compared to Before Gap c) the rambly dissonance of the early period with screamy chicks and a lecture-y doctor is gone & replaced with spectacular fantasy & beautiful CGI effects.
I think there is no situated Who & almost no traditions. Well, OK, a few: there’s a Doctor who can be any gender or anyone, they ride in a Tardis they stole & they’re a bit lonely, live for thousands of years & like a companion/assistant/snogger/screamer/thinker/possible new Doctor (like Clara in the latter) to show “everywhere and everywhen” to.
No worries @roger429! Don’t disappear. 🙂
Syzygy.
23 August 2019 at 03:57 #68002Ohhhh, hip to hip. Yep, missed that. I mean I totally missed it. Awkward. I was just dancing along.
23 August 2019 at 03:55 #68001heheheh. Blast. When you’re at parties you don’t listen to the lyrics in the way you should….
Honey Lingers? “There are monsters, there are angels. “i’m nobody’s baby” Mum would say this is really good scansion. I think, after 17 yrs, I’m learning what that is.
“There is ice and there is fire in every single heart….”
I like how proud the lyrics are? Not “I’m gonna hit that ….[insert word].”
I don’t know why mum hasn’t shown this to me. I mean the Greek name alone she tells me ALL the time. Yesterday she said “you never listen” and I say “because you go on with this long thesis and 30 mins later we haven’t progressed past the 12 minutes of The Sinner!”
23 August 2019 at 02:38 #6799923 August 2019 at 02:37 #6799823 August 2019 at 02:20 #67997Your comment makes sense @pedant. I forget that the BBC has a variety of “expectations” as the ABC does here. I think Rosa was great. And one more was awesome. But I liked quite a few. Rosa was studied in class -and is still being studied with the next round of students.
Young Syzygy.
22 August 2019 at 10:45 #67991that was me Syzygy the younger one. And I liked your music in post # 67985 @whisht.
That’s something we hear a lot. And I respect and support all that you said.
22 August 2019 at 10:42 #67990@whisht you’ve been playing a lot of great stuff. I don’t think I knew about the B52s til a few years ago. On at a party and I was surprised. It was 16 year old’s party and the music was 70s and 80s. I figured I’d go back to another one of those. Really awesome funky dancing. So.….
“We’d like to play a song which kinda is our..we knew we were gonna come back & do’t. This is a …yeah, sorry. Uh. This is kinda of our hymn, this song…it’s about you and me. We’re gettin’ a bit old now…..”
My Generation. And I know W’stock is over. But it’s never really over. (When you compare it to the NY dude who tried to put a music festival on in 3 months with kids spending between $3K and $250K for a yacht for 2 days or a “cabana, luxury, next to the beach.” )
So, my mum & dad gave me this when I was 2. For Christmas. I think I tried to eat it. Every year they gave me a new CD that was ‘serious’ from Pet Sounds to ma’s favourite (Revolver) which isn’t Dad’s (that’s Sergeant Pepper’s); Jeff Buckley? And some really weird stuff like Jimmy Buffet. But also The White Album and some Jewish music AND some amazing Tango. I don’t think that’s anywhere on youtube. And last year they slipped up & missed about 6 years which is something they need to re-dress! And immediately. Or should I say “very immediately coz it’s really unique.” But that’s being a bit scornful. I hear people say things like that, or write them, and I say nothing. Zip my mouth. Mum has trouble doing that! But they gave me something ‘blank’ with a chic’s voice I’d never heard. It was whoa! I find out from a mate who is 18 years older than I, that it was mum. Like 20 years ago!
22 August 2019 at 02:47 #67989@blenkinsopthebrave and @janetteb
I could NOT believe this! He rants on a message about how the Left are haters and warmongers, that there is nothing but peace in Trump, that he’s a Christ loving person who is radical in all the right ways & provides messages of hope & love. Er what? I thought Voight had a good conscience….
It’s interesting that he’s glad Trump didn’t have to deal with the leftist lobby because of his supreme wealth. Why doesn’t he argue about the presidential election problem? Also, Professors Blenkinsop, I hope my Hallelujah wasn’t interpreted as a right-enabling interpretation? I was simply saying “hallelujah” and didn’t think the Buckleys would be the best choice for a hallelujah (also the choir’s very good). This is what happens when I mix music with political argument. It becomes a clusterf**k. So, Voight. Man oh man is he wrong-headed! We ban Voight from d’house
22 August 2019 at 01:49 #67988you have been working hard! I have the embarrassing tale of not knowing very much about the B52s until Love-Shack which I thought energetic -more so than Lobster, actually, which McCartney didn’t like and Lennon (well, OK, Ono did). I’ve never head Planet Claire before! Ooh. Good!
Brilliant choices! “Tighter than a Gnat’s Chuff.” That saying is almost as good as the music. I have to show to Thane this in particular -and the hairstyles of the B52s too. I like Word’s Up, a lot -for the same reasons: it’s beautifully choreographed & so well lit (in every way).
And Delite woke me up. ((-_-))
Now, I have NOTHING to offer. It’s all samey. Or maybe my brain is cluttered with bad Netlfix.
20 August 2019 at 09:38 #67983Also, seriously, no THE OA?
It’s gorn too.
Clearly it wins hands down -over Stranger Things, over 13 Reasons. Over Rectify.
But only The Leftovers and Doctor Who remain in the bracket of spell-binding, decisive, and beautiful telly
I shall go cry in a corner.
But on the music thread we have an unexpected “day 4” of Woodstock. It was many years before I even knew there was another day or morning, at least. A pop of wonderfulness. Or wonder.
20 August 2019 at 09:32 #67982Thou That Has Spoken
The Siggers
P: I shoulda gorn with (now that’s not Old North Shore neither) something punk. But I just couldn’t do it.
18 August 2019 at 14:55 #67976Ian Matthews is quite interesting. I didn’t have much of an idea how long he performed…..but he’s ticket holder for Scunthorpe FC. That gave me giggles & tickles. It’s intriguing just how many bands stood for acclaim but bringing along others, who’d either been kicked out of a band(s); volunteered a hasty retreat followed by induction to yet another group and eventually they’re tying themselves to the chopping block wanting to work alone.
The sheer scale of music in the 60s/70s is incredibly hard to imagine now. Mainly music (other than the 70s/80s which saw some great names and bands), struggles for what’s unique in all of us but the current music lacks a touch of the brazen and boy bands are everywhere ….with supermarket background noise and far too much healthy living
18 August 2019 at 14:13 #67974Yes I realise my mistake with King Bob!
I also understand the various differences & attitudes about the rest of the universe but it doesn’t mean we leave out, as you say, the many privileges people here have. Except they’ve lost some of them anyway. Which is no excuse. I try, I guess, to see the world as one “global village” which, back in 1998 was the Big Juicy Lie that hadn’t happened yet. And then along came researchers, journalists & authors in philosophy who debunked Globalism -or recognised it was misused.
Certainly Big Oil etc is taxed elsewhere, whilst we rub up against the U.S. I’m absolutely ignorant of the detail you’ve given. I’m going to see a man about a book.
18 August 2019 at 12:24 #67971I had to check that too. They had no clue where Woodstock was but had played with Joni Mitchell -as their own opener which they were thrilled to do. Apparently they said “we were scared shitless” but a mate of mine who did Roadie work in the 70s concluded this was an urban/musical myth, organised in part to give off a “folksy, shucks” group persona considering, at the time, Graham Nash was being “quite difficult” – -that part I’m told by Jim-Jim is truth. He mellowed…eventually.
Siggers.
18 August 2019 at 12:09 #67970I don’t think Jack Bruce should be covered here, exactly, but link Theme of an Imaginary Western by Mountain & have you an exclusive vocal tone in Bruce -my opinion, only. And I did pick up your niiice mention of 4 in the Morning… He was an interesting character deemed quite conservative but over the years he had a massive discography with Keeping Up with the Joneses; I miss You Already, Congratulations and I Hate Myself.
You beat me to it with CSN&Y.
And the Hendrix sends shivers doesn’t it @cathannabel. A truly enigmatic but gifted performer. Some play great but don’t at concerts. Some are the opposite but Hendrix had it all. Focused like a laser although he made it effortless.
Also, I’m marching past Woodstock’s bed time with Sha Na Na’s Wipeout which is much faster & tighter than The Safaris
18 August 2019 at 11:31 #67969@janetteb sorry about the coding. I simply type it write in w/o any cutting or pasting and I avoid ‘&’ if I can as well as dollar and pound signs, question and exclamation marks. It’s a tad frustrating. I don’t want to have 9 lines of code to wade thru. 🙂 From the word improving go down to “But it was Labour.”
18 August 2019 at 11:24 #67968I think many people KNEW we were the lucky country & secured political mates rates via ‘good’ capitalism and entrepreneurship. My parents left communism but I valued a socialist society (not Communist ideals). As Iris in The Heights says – ABC ivew -Thane bloomin adores it & Iris is his favourite character to the extent he’s cried when watching. Sooo, in response to a statement “It’s just an idea,” Iris snaps, “So was Communism.”
I loved Hawke and the 1984 Accord. It was a bloody miracle . People taking to the streets in awe. Then we had Keating and a recession that saw mates lose $40 000 overnight with deregulation and collapsing shares; skipping uni to earn it back. HECS followed swiftly.
I totally understand your frustration.** I have electricians and plumbers charging $279 to walk in the door . Thereafter it’s $115 every 15 minutes. This is suburb investiture. Where less “affluent” areas pay the same people $150. There has to be something illegal about this. We know this but our avenues of complaint are tedious and fraught with difficulty so we shag & shrug, watching Netflix with wine, sharing a jammy dodger.
Thane knows, without a doubt, that if he’s had a brother, it would be ‘worse’ (you know he doesn’t mean he’d hate him) . Already he prioritises what furniture in our home he’d keep, what jewellery he’d sell (!) & how much he’d rent the third bedroom out for -not because he wants profitability but because he figures someone may benefit. Also he thinks a car in inner Brisbane isn’t really necessary. There’s $50K right there gone -or saved -with public transport improving.
<span style=”display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #333333; cursor: text; font-family: Georgia,’Times New Roman’,’Bitstream Charter’,Times,serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 24px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;”>But it was Labour who brought in HECS and it was mates rates and corporate lunches (which my father thought perfectly acceptable) that hit the lower middle classes. I used to read, at 18, John Pilger, who was viciously hated by other journos. I never knew if he was exaggerating because uni had narrowed; I had music on my mind and from every Station to Station I had Fashion in my head.</span>
**So I understand your boys must struggle. I never had Aus-Study but many mates did. I had no idea it’s the same amount now and I’m very sorry for that: yet the entrepreneurial elites ignore the facts & throw lame arrows at “millennials who don’t know what they’ve got.”
And that’s a tiny bit true. Half the world lives in shitty conditions and because it’s Columbia or Krakow, or the Indian subcontinent, they don’t ‘really’ matter as much.
Example: Thane had a guidance officer who did the usual palaver about uni. When I found out who she actually was, I hinted to Thane, “look, she’s been married 4 times with 3 kids to different dads and has had the job for 6 months.” Thane’s response was entirely correct: “So, what? You discount her because of this? That she’s trying to help people? Maybe these issues weren’t hers alone & she’s making the best of a new job.” Thane: 18, turning 35.
I guess our kids are……(don’t hit me) our future: they’re the best of us and I try to have confidence they’ll literally ‘best’ the conservative elites. Providing they think entirely avoiding Love Island and Piers Morgan. 🙂
Syzygy the Elder.
17 August 2019 at 11:53 #67962@whisht Aaaand this was interesting…
17 August 2019 at 11:42 #67961Also she meets the tuning fork test. Her coda and end solo match up with her 1st note.
@whisht absolutely – -the terrific riff on Santana is really great to hear. They slowed it down a bit for the crowd and it’s tuned very nicely indeed. Considering the dust and wind.
Syzygy.
17 August 2019 at 11:33 #67960That IS energetic. The influence was Phil Ochs and Faron Young of all people. The ragtime and the shanty-town balance is fucking beautiful.
And then falls tears. God I hope that country finds itself again. I was gonna post Cocker’s I don’t Need A Doctor. Because well, we do here!
instead we have Joplin doing Big Mama. It’s not a hugely good recording. The Monterey one’s better.
Syzygy
17 August 2019 at 10:55 #67958This is so fantastic. Thankyou so much.
During a moment of break from studies I read some articles in the NY Times ($1 for 3-4 articles) and then watched a show called The Family which sounds nuts and actually IS nuts. What’s worrying is on the paper’s comments there are people actively saying “yeah, no worries, he’s a man, that’s what men do” but it wasn’t a grief-stricken outrage but a nasty and callous affectation -in my opinion.
So, I was looking to things for myself.
Despite some really good As and Bs, my global average at November will be quite poor. I don’t want to necessarily go to uni but I don’t want my options pulled out either! Still, TAFES or old advanced education areas offer similar things without the heady costs. Mum and I reckon @janetteb would’ve had free uni -or she did for 2 degrees – after that she had to pay per year but the cost was about $1500 for a year and nothing like the current costs. No wonder no-one can afford a house anymore.
Most of my mates who are 19 or 20 have never moved out. Mum will be charging me, though, for food, car insurance, the internet and a portion of everything which is miles cheaper than moving in with people who have to work two jobs just to pay the rent. Never mind saving up for a home of their own.
This was the Lucky Country. But then there was a time in America when they looked to the stars. Now they look down in misery.
Thankyou again.
Syzygy the Younger.
Thankyou again. You are a beautiful writer.
16 August 2019 at 10:47 #67955And didn’t we hear them complain that The Grateful Dead had put everyone to sleep
16 August 2019 at 10:16 #67954Hi there @bluesqueakpip. @mudlark @serahni and all you great men and women! @whisht @blenkinsopthebrave @arbutus @nerys. This idea sounds like it’s about theology only, but I think it’s about changing perceptions -or not changing them?
Due to the ‘serious’ nature of the post below I thought I’d should share this from a Reuters article which commented on the show, The Family (Netflix). But you have to excuse me at the pub, as I’m not 18 🙂 Others might like to comment and this isn’t homework (I wish it was because it would be more interesting) – just my musings. I was reading about how David was seducing Bathsheba which led commenters & the author to say such things as “good on ‘im, he had a tough time of it. It was a ruthless period.” But they don’t mind at all that David organised the murder of his captain, so David could have Bathsheba.
Those areas in the bible are murky. Sometimes hypocritical. But I tend to say it’s “interpretation and language differences?” I think most of you know I have a Christian faith and despite soccer games on Sunday I still try to make church twice a month. But I understand better what is right and what choices are made for the ‘greater good’ from both Buffy and Doctor Who: where in the first: “you have a choice, it’s not a good choice, but it’s a choice and you’re choosing wrong.” @pedant I’m not sure if that’s the exact quote, but close?
And from the Doctor: I’m not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone…not because its easy…. I do what I do because it’s right; because it’s decent….maybe there’s no point in any of this at all.”
This is what I wrote on the newspaper’s page:
I find the hints regarding King David as a great guy, charismatic and doing what was necessary because it was fun is a startlingly venal base for a conversation about a king who memorialised himself by defeating Goliath. Most readers don’t pay much attention after the defeat of Goliath. If readers believe David had a rough time in a ruthless era and did “what it took” to survive then they’re using relativism to excuse a man who premeditated the murder of his finest captain only when Bathsheba fell pregnant after David seduced her. Another post said that people become upset at the oddest things and that “odd thing” is cold-blooded murder. I don’t think cynically laughing about this as if it’s cute irony rather than a sober discussion about theology and relative meaning is helpful.
Thank you for reading. Syzygy the youngest. PS: @whisht mum likes the music contributions!
6 August 2019 at 08:24 #67940To be fair, I was taking “mork” out for a walk. 🙂 I don’t really know what a mork is, but it suits Clooney. He has this habit of moving his head around and up and down and smiling with no teeth, looking all bashful and then smiling with teeth. It’s this: “i’m trying to be irresistible and totally interested in you, the other character (love interest) and you, the audience.” I don’t know how many times I’ve heard interview panels where they have said to a new actor, in a debut role, “how amazing is it to be working with George?”
They usually say “oh, yes, yes, my mom wants a selfie and many photos and a skype and…and…” I don’t know quite why any of that pisses me off? It shouldn’t! I liked ER a lot and think George did a great job; acting all “George.”
Perhaps it’s the August heat. How are you doing with it? Is it striking you in the same way as the UK? Record highs of 38 or 42 Celsius aint pleasant. Staying completely still definitely helps except we’re not all
mannequinsGeorges.🙂 Also, you have a lovely pet to walk. I find pets suffer from the heat terribly here. So many people leave them out during the summer whilst at work with barely a shrub for cover and no water . A bit of a disgrace, really. Aaaand I’m moaning. Also, I’m not on topic here (casting about for TV show topics/tropes) and clearly it’s all about George!
Siggers the Silly.
5 August 2019 at 12:06 #67935Oh, that’s some connection. I was thinking of, & watching bits of Up in The Air & my mind was drifting to play-boys & then you mention A New Leaf! I remember a well equipped lady in a bikini sidling up to Henry Graham. “I am alive! I want to give….”
Henry scurries off in this pitiful, almost fearful voice “oh No! Nooo! Don’t let them out!”
Neal Hefti who wrote the Odd Couple, did this score too. Wow of a film. Talk to people about it & they don’t know it. It’s a real treat people. Mr Blenkinsop is right. So many one liners -it’s worth it for the valet alone, played by George Rose- all of which fits into a film like a sweet, short* poem.
Syzygy
*And it wasn’t going to be short. Thank god for editors. We love you. The waste basket is your friend!
5 August 2019 at 11:37 #67934that joke died didn’t it? It was the code that did it, huh (scratches ears). You said: “it’s filmed in BC so you can see a bit of beautiful Canada.”
And I said “but BC stands for British Columbia?” As in BC IS Beautiful Canada.
@whisht !!!!!!!!!!! Hey @whisht!!!!!!!!! You said I was funny! But no-one got the funny (whines).
I LOVE Mandy Patininikin. I loved the theme song of Chicago Hope. I loved the whole show. 24 years later I buy the entire series and I’m so excited. We all sit down and love it.
Then we put the 2nd series in and you hardly see him again and it all fell flat. 🙁
So I swapped to ER. Which had George Clooney. What a mork.
@pedant!!!!!!!!! Was it you who said watch Up in The Air? Anna Kendrick’s in it, I think? I’m 14 minutes in & Clooney gets his typical ‘look.’ We women know the look. Some of us love it. Some of us hate it. He has 3 things to do, pretty much. Like Roger Moore who admitted he had 3 quirks including straightening his tie. Clooney’s less interesting. Also, I like flying. But not really. The smell, the food, the loos, the stewards. The whole shebang is difficile. But if it’s Anna….& it’s worth it…then so shall it be-ith.
Syzygy the other.
4 August 2019 at 10:57 #67929oops! I didn’t break it! I quoted 15 words from @winston.
@aklapa -some of that was yours but don’t want to edit for fear of the loss of detail.
And I am aware of the whole ‘pasting & cutting’ thing @pedant. And thank you for those ideas. Interesting that when the quote was used by me, the font that appeared was very different. I used Ctrl C and V rather than click and drag
4 August 2019 at 10:50 #67928<span style=”font-size: 14.4px;”><span style=”text-align: left; color: #333333; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: ‘Arimo’,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: transparent;”>Also it was filmed in BC so you can see a bit of beautiful Canada.</span></span>
But BC stands for British Columbia, yes? 🙂
@akalpa Welcome to the site, btw. I might have a toddle to that thread @pedant linked to & check it out myself (like doing a little quiz). Considering that series aired some time ago, there’s a lot of space/time stuff that’s fallen into a Black Hole, or behind the couch and also SO many other brilliant shows that I don’t think I would’ve watched if people here hadn’t gently nudged.
@winston Dead Like Me sounds very familiar. I’m thinking I’ve seen some of it -but not sure exactly how. If it was out in late ’17 or early ’18 on Pay per View -series & film, that could make some sense. If so, why I can’t I remember it? Possibly the same reason as above -the black hole of memory. 😉
Shows I found complex & devastating, I watched all over again. Not just Leftovers or 13 Reasons Why -the latter had a certain scene now…sort of…….ah (you’ll know if you know) but The OA & Rectify both had me sobbing a little (sobbing, lots).
@pedant Death by Space Toilet seat from Mir: No, no. I was really very stoned… Or distracted by the possibility of Pedant Dalek -now that would perturb one. Death by space toilet seat would be a practical way of going.
I remember you discussing the problems with I, Robot. I had read Asimov as a teenager. And was promptly told by a certain someone to READ MORE (dalek voice). YOU WILL READ. Or be exterminated. The Buffy security question/answer was interesting. Not your favourite ‘thing’ as there was ‘only one flaw’ which wasn’t. So you’ll pass. But by the skin of a dalek’s toilet plunger.
Also that conversation led to other books & films (short stories & quartets of books) which delved into SciFi. Then @jimthefish spoke about some of his favourite novels; not necessarily sci-fi. So @pedant (as I’m elder Syzygy with her humour*), I was above average so don’t be mean. Arf. Arf.
*young Syz played 100 minutes yesterday with a massive fever & now has bronchitis. Karma’s a be-atch
3 August 2019 at 12:47 #67919@pedant once back at the house & into September I’ll enquire into Amazon Prime Aus.
Also First Man which was mentioned IS a film? Is it produced by Wyck Godfrey of Twilight Fame and I Robot?
3 August 2019 at 12:46 #67918@jimthefish Years & Years sounds great. @cathannabel: thank you for that too. We also saw Russian Doll: brill! Jim, Good luck with the thesis. May the calm of the Jedi knights be with you!
I think Dr Who was confronting Missy? With Capaldi’s Doc? All the monsters could be a hard lesson in life, the monsters a back-drop, a good portion of the time. Chernobyl is on our order list having been nudged by not 1, not 2 but 3 close mates. I don’t know very much about Lizzie Borden, Missy: that’s pretty scary though. Are there a few movies out about that part of history, then? (also, Missy, not sure if I remembered your birthday! Apologies if I have -although it’s good to hear it again. I’m posting, so if I look at the Activity feed I’ll lose post. Don’t want that)
@pedant Hang on! -Establish identity- (dalek voice).
Where. Is. Pedant. You are not Pedant. Your short posts would indicate a pedant.
Security question: what did you like about Season 5 of Buffy?
I’m pretty sure I can GET Veronica Mars, actually (the early series) but it’s pointless being too optimistic until tomorrow, Sunday. 😉 Indeed, Rectify and L’overs the slow burn; but the latter is possibly the best show I’d seen in 5 years, at least. Who and Buffy are in their own space. Forever shalleth it be-ith….
made me yelp with joy…
It’s worth it if only to find out where the ‘yelping’ happened.
31 July 2019 at 09:47 #67914That sounds like a great idea. I’ll look at those and also some sites on the web for assistance.
Mum said they did Hamlet and read out parts and ended up memorising them too which was good practise.
Hope he gets better soon.
31 July 2019 at 08:47 #67912@pedant hey there.
oops sorry about the VD. I had to google it. Lots of things are “VD” but I worked out which one you meant on account of your exceeding old age. 🙂
This is my humour. I’m testing it out. As dad’s gen would say “it’s a Sunday drive so I’m wearing a hat and driving slowly.” I always type my responses straight onto the “reply here” area. Mum does too. I might have added links sometimes but the two of us generally press submit and hope for the best. Usually it’s not a problem. If there’s gobs of coding text I just edit it & press submit & its fine. So, now I’ve researched which characters are safer to use which helps.
We’re reading Macbeth at the moment. It’s a bit hairy. I don’t understand much of it but we’re all watching Judi Dench in Macbeth in the school hall next week. Mum keeps saying “is this a dagger I see before me?” in Lawrence Oliver’s voice which was in Dead Poet’s Society.#
It’s not Oliver, is it? But the internet here is bad so now you see how unknowledgeable I really am.
#Mum has real problems with that film, actually. I don’t.
31 July 2019 at 08:16 #67911It was Great -is what I meant. 🙂
31 July 2019 at 08:15 #67910What on EARTH was I doing?
Sorry about the bloomin lecture. Gawd. Throw some tomatoes at me (rotten ones) -after all, the composer Debussy had lots of………you would know. You have a brain, curiosity etc so again, wack me about the head when I start blathering…
Thank you for birthday wishes. It was an interesting day. It involved lots of movin’ about & lots of sleep which was great.
Sigger the Silly.
28 July 2019 at 06:46 #67906“It rings bells....” That reminds me of what @whisht said regarding @blenkinsopthebrave & The Persuaders theme.
A literary fugue -that sounds compelling! Text & music is very interesting isn’t it? Lyrics and choons or secular (initially French: between 600-1300) ) and sacred musics and texts are powerful combinations across the Universe (the Universe, well, I had to say it) and amongst different cultures exhibiting divergent elaborations.
The Russian-style ‘feel’ of the music @whisht impels you to that conclusion, if I’ve interpreted what you were saying? And absolutely rightly: the bells, for example, the xylophone & the pentatonic scale are inherited from amongst other areas, regions to the south of Russia with Assyrian music and its folkish charm sweeping into Russia as whole where, say, The Russian Five (like Mussorgsky) used folk music in their (evocative) works. Iranian musical styles which weren’t sacred but secular have been passed down the generations but so much has been lost to cultural dissonance & sacred ‘demands.’
John Barry, of The Persuaders, was influenced by composers like Glinka who liked to incorporate pentatonic scales, a variety of modes (Dorian to Mixolydian) and folk into his tonality. He used, as you suggested, the Moog synth and other cymbalon-type instruments – basically a group of plucked or wacked string instruments. Those style instruments and melodies came from Romany gypsies and spread north. It was the ruskies who actually created the theremin (Leon Theremin) btw -which takes us back to the original conversation a fortnight ago ((*-_-*)) .
If you reply & I don’t -it’s because I’m off for a week, maybe two -a small flood in the house means our floors have to be re-sanded & polished with coats of polyurethane which takes about 9 days. So, fun times. Insurer is terrific. They’re popping us into an apartment for the duration. There’s wif-fi but you never…. know. It’s all good.
The Siggers.
27 July 2019 at 11:31 #67903The Cath is Back! Agreed @whisht it’s a beautiful film. I didn’t really want to see it. @pedant suggested it. It blew our minds. The language, the prediction of the language is astounding: if a musical piece is extant but at the same time composed with the fullness and completeness of the composition unwinding in front of you, all of it at once, and yet bars growing like branches from the whole. Everything is beginning, middle and end.
That reminded me of this…
26 July 2019 at 09:53 #67897Now, now The Whister. If you have to be grumpy -then absolutely. In fact, you’ve never been grumpy (look at me, a total juvenile complaining about cleaners: unbelievably silly of me) here. Never ever. So, occasionally, vent whenever you like -as long as our emperor agrees & doesn’t lop off your head. After all, I’ve narrowly avoided the guillotine several times. Seriously, here, other than various ‘bots,’ you are amongst friends -of course there are those “young ladieez” (spammers) on the Forum in recent times who would like to have you (emphasis on the “have” or “had) in a slightly different …..manner.
As a child, the books we’d read, used sentences such as: “I want to have you” or “Yezzz, have me, I want to be had.” 🙁
My parents couldn’t understand my frustration ! 😈
Be well. x
25 July 2019 at 02:12 #67893@whisht Yes, I feel for you. I know that his improv of that speech was incredible but when you look all over the rest of the ‘net’ it’s pretty much “the iconic speech” when there are so many. Still, I am moved when I read it, too. The web has a tendency to take over, get tangled, or repeat -well, like a web, really 🙁
I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe…. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Syzygy
24 July 2019 at 02:28 #67889@arbutus He was a monumental performer wasn’t he? Indelibly attracted to his audience & effortlessly so.
@whisht sorry for posting thrice but I love Ringo’s beautiful tambourine. The master that’s often forgotten has a spectacular bit of solo tambourine following a 2nd middle 8 on repeat.
@pedant yonks ago I was writing about music notation and styles & time sigs like common time and 3/4?
The waltzy sound here (“so I will ask you once again” ) is achieved not by changing the time-sigs but using thready suspensions to get that “here it comes, here it comes” moment & it was Harrison who composed that.
On the music -vid he’s madly counting & they had a cut-away. Someone from the Sorbonne made an elitist crack about their lack of musicality which reminds me of Jagger’s “Wot, and look like you?” (that’s a reference to a hair cut recited “adroitly” by Bowie ).
So like the moon landing (which success no-one was certain of ….) McCartney came into his own with this track scrabbling up the hill to John – & John beginning to slide down (OK, a bit like space travel, innit?).
It took 13 hours (just 12 minutes under that actually) to work it out. I imagine they’re were all in need of booze, tea and sleep at the end.
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