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Happy belated Xmas and new year to all. Hopefully you’re all having a better start to the year than me. I went into severe heart failure following a cardiac episode at the end of October beginning of November. As a result I’m suffering from severe shortness of breath due to varying degrees of pulmonary odeama. As a result I’m awaiting insertion of a joint pacemaker/defibrillator which will hopefully improve my cardiac function.  On a the  main point for posting was to say how much I enjoyed the war between sea and land, yes it had a bit of a predictable ending.

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@whohar watched the first 2 episodes on Sunday, given that  to my knowledge the series is only 5  episodes long and appear to be 45 minuets long I thought they were a bit slow in progressing the story much to the point that I think for some it will be better to watch all the episode in a binge almost as a single film. Having said that the acting seems to be excellent. There’s an overly obvious ecological political theme running through the episodes I’ve seen so far. The effects are as you would expect from a collaborative Disney/BBC budget are superlative.

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@nerys not watched the episode recently but wasn’t the part of the  theory at the time that Ruby was experiencing an alternate universe created by the breaking of the “magical” circle/item in which she experienced an accelerated time line and that the “woman” was some kind of guardian/entity created by the Tardis that was kept at the perception filter effect limit to watch over her.

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I had a what may be horrible thought reading through some of the comments. Are Disney vacillating on purpose in an effort to force the BBC to sell the rights to Who to them, maybe it’s just my distrust of American Corporations and my current total distrust of their current government (meaning Trump).

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@translatorcircuit

Good point about early Doctor Who being in black and white. I think the problem of the heavy editing of the early episodes  in colourisation is that it costs a sh*t load to colourise them that and the digitalisation of the film so there has been a temptation to cutdown the stories as in the  war games story so as to reduce the cost. The other problem with the early Who is that  a good proportion of the stories were long runners ie more than 4 episodes. I think we will be lucky if more a couple a year are colorised in part because the department responsible within the BBC is a small underfunded department,  that and the loss of so many early episodes. It also has the same problems for restoring “missing” episodes  with animated versions it takes a long time to create them. I also agree that modern audiences should know where and how the show started but the main problem is the length of time the show has cumulatively been running. I think a modern audience has a much shorter attention span. I suppose it’s like say the modern audiences  could have say Coronation Street they are unlikely to want watch the very early episodes as its original episodes have little relation to modern episodes.

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@janetteb

I could be wrong but I think the Rani implied the infertility was caused by the Death Particle Event  when it was released as some kind of secondary effect thus ensuring the supposed death of the Timelord race so the continuity was actually preserved as up until that point they could have children it’s just that any Timelord that managed to survive the DP event couldn’t  reproduce.

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@pps1l0v3y0u  I have to agree in a large part with your assessment of the BBC it is a public broadcaster so has constraints  on its budgeting and  commissioning ability for any one show, which was why I think they originally went in for the Disney+ deal. The problem was I think there were 2 different Parameters  wanted by the partnership. Where the BeeB in the past has supposedly gone for a quality product but on budgetary constraints, Disney were at that time the deal was struck were on an active hunt to make an extended “splash’ in the streaming market by tieing up as many what they saw as hit series as they could and making a profit out of them. This policy I think has actually backfired on them as I believe from various articles in papers and the internet they are now having problems and are dropping shows that they supposedly had big plans for to try and recoup losses.

Now although Doctor Who has always ad a loyal fan base in the UK and some generally English speaking countries it’s  viewership has always been predominantly popular  in the UK. Also I agree the Marvel and DC big budget and thier  SFX laden content to a large part has created problems of expectations for any and all Science Fiction/Fantasy based shows that are now being made,  which to be frank  the BBC can’t match without going into partnership with at least one of the big streaming services the trouble is whoever they partner with will have thier own expectations, but the BBC need to try and retain as much control over the creative content and overall look of the show as the partner has to recognise it’s the BBC that have steered this for the last 60 years.

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@jimthefish one of the problems I have with BP being the Valeyard is I’m unfortunately old enough (and plenty more) to remember the travesty that was Trialof a Timelord season (ok maybe some of the stories weren’t that bad) but if memory serves me correctly the Master stated that the Valeyard was the distillation of all that is dark and bad about the Doctor also implied that he was a single incarnation , I actually  thought at the time that Michael James (Jayston) would have made a perfect replacement for AnthonyAinsley  as the Master and the Story would have been much better if he had actually turned out to be a future incarnation of the Master. But  getting back to my thoughts about BP being the Valeyard  if she did turn out to be the V that means there would be at least 2 incarnations of the Doctor that were bad. Of course  with Michael Jayston having died just last year they would need extensive CGI to accomplish that though it’s not impossible I suppose, but it wouldn’t really match existing cannon. I suppose RTD has shown he can ignore cannon when it’s convenient for him but I don’t think he would do it to BP. I’m more inclined to believe she’s some kind of inter regeneration thing.

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@thane16 Not sure at present, it’s entirely how the BP thing is is going to play out  and how the recommissions of the next series goes, if she’s here as a permanent Doctor  and a new season is given the go ahead I suspect a Xmas special may be in the offing even if all we fan expect over next year is 2 or3 specials as a form of hiatus whilst a permanent Doctor is found if she’s just a fill in “Doctor/whatever”. TBH at this moment nobody is really sure what is happening.

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@thane16 I agree especially with the cloud/ history he is under.

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@winston  I think Angies boss and The Boss of the Meep are two different people. I have my suspicions as to who just might be Angies boss and it would be logical if you think it through Angie works at the Time Hotel and who is more likely to own it than Susan, being a time lady she surely has time travel knowledge and maybe sent/persuaded Angie into rescuing the Doctor.

Thoughts and discuss

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@scaryb

 

Only one loose end Scary hells bells there’s the most glaring and itchy loose end ever and RTD has been dangling it infront of us for a good part of the season———- Bring back SUSAN

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@pufferfish I agree with your surmise that Ncuti (darn and I’d

 

just gotten used to writing his name without thinking about it) was probably offered  a major medium to long term project probably late 2024 after they’d finished principle photography but before they went into reshoots for season 2. He was probably originally offered a renewable 2 season contract and was possibly a large influence on Disney signing upto the initial overseas streaming deal  for  the fist 2 years which may be why Disney suddenly appeared to cool on renewing the deal late last year if they were informed of Ncuti’s probable departure from the show.

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Morning all with a nights sleep but no second watch as yet I’m convinced that RTD is playing some game with us using Billie Piper in the Regeneration scene ,it don’t just  ring true. Having watched Doctor Who Unleashed it’s obvious that way back when it was being filmed that Ncuti’s exit had been planned for some time  (maybe even as a 2 series limit as I’ve suggested earlier from the outset), remember most of the filming for season two was done back to back with season one.

 

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@cathannabel

I’m not sure I can talk  sense or bonkers at the moment I’m in shock really really thought right up to the last it was going to be a halted regeneration with the Doctor “ giving up” years of his regeneration to correct the final timeline discrepancies this would have allowed Ncuti to continue  for 1 or two more seasons  if he had wished to continue. Obviously he had wanted out for whatever reasons, thought I doubt he was sacked as some rumours have hinted and setting up a regeneration  exit story would have taken some time so I suspect this has been on the cards since  season 1 , and I wonder if he had secretly only signed on for 2 seasons a bit like Eccelstone did for his only season.

One thing I did notice was that in the credits Billie Piper wasn’t introduced as the Doctor so what is actually happening there. Is Billie going to just be a place holder like Tenant14 or are they really going to go forward with her. Its been one thing for actors like Peter Capaldi’s or Colin Baker who had played relatively  minor parts in past episodes but to ‘use’ a longtime companion especially one as a long term and well loved as Rose as the new face of the Doctor is going to be a difficult sell to fans, for a start she’s going to have to be  totally different to Rose both in mannerisms and attitude in the past when the Doctor has taken a ‘familiar’ face it has been to remind him/her of something important to him/her. Having said that  I’ll be willing and interested to see how they tackle this. As a bit of a wild ass speculation I wonder if RTD was hinting earlier in the episode when he bought Jodiedoc  in for her cameo that the next Doctor was going to be female. Given the event it may now be more understandable/clearer why filming wasn’t commenced over and above the issues of the Disney will they/ won’t they commission a 3rd season etc as leakage from the set would be next to impossible  to stop.

Overall I really enjoyed the finale ( ok I would have liked an ending with Ncuti staying).  I think they missed an absolutely perfect opportunity to have bought the Doctor and Susan back together I was convinced at one point that we were going to have them meet and Susan was going to Regenerate into Poppy but having thought about it that wouldn’t have worked as Susan would have needed to regenerate into a “young” man/woman in order to retain their  intellectual ability. I’ll need to rewatch again to try and understand whether the timelord sterility is supposed to be post death particle or prior. Thought cannon-wise surely this  makes problems with the Doctors recollections of being with young timelords and growing up with them at the academy  though this would truly make them all the last of the timelords.
rigt I think I’ve rambled on enough for now

 

 

 

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Omg omg they have really done it and Ncuti’s gone

 

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T-45 mins to Doctor Who finale

 

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@pufferfish 😂🤣😂 please tell me that this article is not serious

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Right hers a couple of guesses of events that are possibly going to happen in the next part Reality war

1. The Doctor manages to kill Omega yet again (the third time in tv cannon not sure in how may times it’s been with non tv sources)

2. Given the rumours and leaks about a regeneration of Ncuti a regeneration happens but it’s Susan  into baby Poppy as others have  mentioned this is probably going to be the last opportunity for CAF to be able to film given her age and it allows for Susan to continue on in the Whoniverse though Poppy could be a ‘watcher” style forerunner of Susan’s regeneration but that is only a guess. I’ve always wondered why timelords don’t appeared to regenerate into children apart from River though that may have been her original incarnation.

5. The Doctor rescues Rouge and he becomes a full-time companion

3. The Rani’s end up imprissioned in the underverse with the Pantheon and Omega if he’s not killed/destroyed.

4. Omega will be played by Peter Davidson – in the AoI Omega tried hijacking Davidsondoc’s genetic code from the  Matrix.

I’d say 1 is an almost certainty obviously , I think 2 is a fan wish and given what RTD has recently said about giving the fans what they want in interviews I would say it would fit perfectly who other than the Rani has been a constant fan call back…… Susan.

Oh I think my brain is going to explode bonkerising

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Oh I’ve just had a really really evil thought about baby Poppy could the Doctor be warning the Rani she was about to do something really stupid if Poppy is real, could Poppy really be an incarnation of the “RANI” and she’s about to cause a Paradox. Ouch now that thought makes my head hurt. I would much prefer to find out Poppy is actually a regenerated Susan but I can’t see how that would save reality. If Poppy is the Rani and by destroying the reality she is infact setting up a Paradox in some way that will negate all that the Rani is trying to do.

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Hi all yes I’m late to the party so to speak, have managed 2 run throughs tho. One of the things I imeadiately thought when I saw it was oh god not another villain with a disco ball don’t know why. But on to other points and not necessarily in chronological order.

Has anyone thought where’s the Rani’s Tardis and then I  thought when the Doctor and Belinda were told to step over the threshold in the bone palace is this really a modified Tardis like Clara’s Diner Tardis with external rooms. This would explain why things inside the Bone palace have ‘more’ reality and the outside is the ‘Conradverse’ as Tardis’ are essentially a pocket dimension in time and space so would not  necessarily be subject to Conrad’s reality.

As to why would the Rani be searching for Omega, the only reason I could see given some of the comments she made in her monologue is she’s try ing to create a new Gallifrey with Omega being the first Proto-Timelord so to speak. In the original 3 Doctors story Omega was as memory serves a Stellar Technician who’s work gave the Timelords the ability to time travel whilst ending up  being trapped in the heart of a black hole in a negative universe. As has been said by others he survived by gaining the ability to alter his reality in the negative universe.

Another thing that occurred to me is the Rani really Tectun as recreation of the universe was the whole premise of  The flux and the purpose behind the Division. It would also explain the similarities between Tectun and the Rani and how she seems to think she and the doctor have more of a history than tv cannon actually gives them,( there were only 2 stories with 6 and 7 from the PreGap era I’m not including other sources as I’m not overly familiar with them.)

As to Poppy’s relevance could she be regenerated or Bigenerated Susan. It could be that the Doctor has suddenly realised who she is and this is why he says she’s important. Of course she could be a regenerated Jenny (the Doctors Clone Daughter)

Oh hell I think I’m a bit sleep deprived and need to  think where I’m going, that and see where the finale actually goes.

 

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@psl0v3y0u regarding of your comment about the criticisms of Rememberance but the hand of Omega appeared in  Silver Nemesisduring McCoys tenure. It was during the time of the so-called Cartmel Plan which was taking the show in the direction that the Doctor was something more than the usual Timelord and had Sylvester portray the Doctor in a darker and sometimes menacing light and it actually fore-shadowed elements of what became the time war. Personally at the time I wasn’t aware of the Cartmel plan but had the feeling they were working upto a big reveal that the Doctor was much older and was possibly one of the ancient timelords as McCoy portrayed the Doctor especially later in his tenure with a more dispassionate Doctor much like the early HartnellDoc.

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Oh my oh my oh my well she’s baaack. But is she fighting with or against the Doctor. I liked the episode and I have to say multiple schools got part of their wishes granted.

 

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I liked the episode though I’m confused as hell yes there was a Gods connection  and there appeared to be some kind of world as a story/myth element which seems to be this sieries’  theme (by the way this was a theme through several Robert. A. Hienlien Books).  We had an appearance of DoctorRuth I’m wondering if Ncuti is actually leaving the show are they going to cast DocRuth as the next Doctor and having her appear in this episode has been a sly way of having her available to film a regeneration scene on the down-low. Awww hell I don’t know I think all the speculation about the Disney/Beeb partnership and the Ncuti is going or is he staying speculation is in part colouring our perceptions.

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Well another Doctor lite episode much like 72 Yards. I think the most important part came in the last few mins though. Is Conrad going to be responsible for releasing/foreboding the big bad from the finale episodes given his statement that he rejects the Doctors Reality and we know the final episode is titled the Reality War, especially as Mrs Flood releases him from prison. Enjoyed the the episode overall though surely Ruby should have realised Conrad was up to no good sooner.

 

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Hmm ( I couldn’t copy our Lord Emperor’s opening as much as I wanted to), so it’s a sequel to the episode Midnight but did RTD slip-in that the midnight entity may be one of the pantheon of mad gods with the brief reference to the laugh. Also I’m also wondering if May 25th is supposed to be a fixed point that may have been changed which is why the Tardis can’t reach/access it. Also I see we had our Mrs Flood encounter though she sounded pleased that the Doctor had been able to activate the transponder device. I’m trying to work out if that’s supposed to be a good thing or bad thing.

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After reading some of the previous comments I’d missed a sudden thought occurred to me. At the time Lux is set I was under the impression that the film reels were owned by the major production companies and were effectively rented out to the individual cinemas so surely there wouldn’t have been a big store room of film reels. Though my knowledge of how cinemas worked then may be wrong and yes I am aware that each film often consisted of multiple reels hence the need for multiple projectors and they would have needed some form storage for the films currently being played, but not to have what looked like hundreds of films as most cinemas then only had 1 or 2 screens unlike today’s multiplexes. The only reason for all those reels was to make the “explosion” possible as a plot devise.

 

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@whisht nah she can’t be the watcher the watcher was a foreboding presentation that indicated to TomBakerDoc that his regeneration was approaching and was in fact the PeterDavisonDoc, oddly enough this could have been a pre Gap form of BiGeneration as the two of them (tombakerdoc and the watcher/Davidsondoc) merged upon the “death” of TomBakerdoc

If you mean she is one of the two Guardians, if so I would say she is likely to be a manifestation  or servant of the White Guardian given her predilection to wear white, though that could be a red herring in 2 senses 1. RTD lies (a given) and 2. The Black Guardian has been known to masquerade as the White Guardian. 😀

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Well an enjoyable romp. I think I now know  where the online rumour of Ncuti filming a regeneration scene came from so maybe Ncuti isn’t leaving the show anytime soon, though to be honest given his increasing “fame” and I assume offers of work I wouldn’t  be surprised if he only does 3 or 4 seasons and I think the overall average is 4 seasons. Yes there has been actors that have done many more seasons ie Pertwee  I think, and Tom Baker pre gap and Tenant and Smith post gap so expecting an actor to commit for much more is probably  impractical of fans we will probably be lucky if we get 4 seasons.
Anyway back to the episode it’s obviously hinting that the mad/chaos gods are definitely  behind events in the whoniverse here we have another mad god creating mischief. Obviously something has happened on May  24 and I’ve just realised the season finale  is going to be broadcast about that date though it may be the weekend before I can’t remember if the season is 6 or 7 episodes. Also I see we have another episode that is heavily making social commentary on the times the episode is set.

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I think this is probably the best place to discuss the rumour that the Tardis set has been or is in the process of being dismantled  this is only rumour at the moment as far as I’m aware. If the Tardis set has been dismantled it may not indicate the supposed hiatus that has been put forward by many commentators but may actually indicate Ncuti has indeed left the show as has also been rumored. My reasoning that this is a possibility is that generally the Tardis set has been replaced with each regeneration. To be honest I’m hoping both these rumours are false and incorrect.

 

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Did any of you catch the BBC 3 Doctor Who Unleashed, RTD appeared to admit that he is thinking multiple seasons in advance which gives me hope regarding there being life for Dr Who beyond the current season.

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In the main I enjoyed the episode.  I had a brief moment I had the thought oh no not another Clara (don’t get me wrong I liked Clara as a character) but RTD recovered it by stressing that Belinda was the genetic ancestor not the actual character  Veranda played, ok the Doctor once again has the feeling that they were fated/linked in some fashion and were bound to meet which had unfortunate echos of   A(I)lans coceirive  behaviour towards Belinda. There is obviously  some force preventing the Doctor & Belinda from returning to the Earth on the specific date though could that not be the Tardis itself it’s not as if it’s not a sentient entity with an innate knowledge all space and time 😉

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Well enjoyed the episode but wonder where it’s ultimately going to lead us the arms company seems to be rearing its head and makes me wonder if they are going to be the big bad of the next series. And I’m assuming the case code was a time paradox that may have its resolution in the future

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Hmm not sure this is the right place for this but here goes. I was re watching some of my favourite who episodes and was rewatching  DOTD special  and it got to the part with what I have generally called the CuratorDoc and realised it could have been a foretelling of Bigeneration could CuratorDoc have been a post TBaker/DavidsonDoc Bigeneration, hell even the regeneration from Tom Baker to Davidson sort of had a Bigeneration element which involved Davidson being there as the Watcher…. What do you all think.

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@ps1l0v3y0u I agree bringing Tenents 10 back as 14 was I think a situation extingency Jodie had left the show and I believe Ncuti was not available for the filming of the most of the 60th specials. Given that a showrunner handover was going to occur  they could possibly have tried to persuade Jodie to have hung on for the specials and then they could have bought back tenant as 10 in a multi doc  capacity much like the 50th anaversary episode.However that would have changed the whole dynamic of the regeneration to Ncuti IMO.as to the fututive Docs  using a Police Box Tardis we know from the Timeless Child narrative the Division hadn’t been beyond manipulating the Doctors memories, so perhaps HartnellDoc  recollection of how the Tardis became stuck in its Police Box persona is a false memory and is why a Fugitive Docs use of the police box disguise happened. Just going back to using Tenant as 14 it was hinted that timelords will reuse a regeneration look back in the 50th anniversary with Tom Bakers appearance as the CuratorDoc and his comment that occasionally a favourite face will reoccur.

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@dentarthurdent IMO Paul McGanns acting abilities were woefully underused in Doctor Who the movie as you say he made a much better Doctor in the Night of the Doctor minisode. He actually looked much better in his semi-steampunk outfit instead of the part Pertwee part TomBaker outfit they had him in. Also your probably right having the right frontrunner/script writer helps too.I really think that was the main issue with Whittaker tenure so much more could have been if she was given better scripts instead of the tripe Chibbers forced on her, it’s not like she wasn’t a known quantity as an excellent actress before landing the role.

 

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@blenkinsopthebrave just reread your previous post about selling it to the yanks your probably right unless Who was totally changed to being totally Americanised  with a big American stars and becomes something akin to say Babylon 5 ( which I was a massive  fan of btw) but it wouldn’t be Who. Who has always had a quintessential British feel and to be honest a show that works here doesn’t necessarily work over there. The shows that have transferred well if you can call it that have always been substantially changed when remade for an American audience like the Office , Ghosts etc.

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@anonymous I think it’s you who have missed the point it’s because @craig has kept topic  creation under his control it has in the main kept trolling by unsavory persons under control. He’s created topic threads  that cover most areas of conversation. He’s even created areas where non Who topics can be discussed. If we had a free for all for thread creation there would be hundreds if not thousands of threads and to be honest I personally wouldn’t want to have to trawl through that many threads.

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@ps1l0v3y0u

TBH I’ve never had a major problem with the Timeless Child element of ZChib’s tenure as showrunner ,as I am a tv watching of child of the mid 70s,I just felt his treatment and use of JodieW as the Doctor was very poor. I always felt he turned her tenure into a bit of the soap of the week and the Flux season well that was as confusing as muddy water.

Given as I was avid adult fan during the so called  Cartmel plan era I had always felt that the show was headed towards a big reveal about the Doctors past at the time before it was cruelly cancelled. I felt that McoyDoc was returning us to a more Hartnell-esk mysterious Doctor, especially in stories such as Silver Nemesis , so as I said I never had a problem as to the timeless child element only in Zchib’s execution in its reveal. I know that RTD is reported that he wasn’t a big fan of the original “Cartmel Plan” and like many others was surprised when he announced that he wasn’t going to ignore or at least modify the events of the timeless child events, (though I can understand his reasoning because to ignore it was to ignore JW’s tenure as the Doctor and some of the ground breaking that her being the Doctor bought). I think we were all hoping that the RTD2 first season would be on a par with his original first season but in some respects that may have been too much to hope for.

Right think I’m beginning to ramble again as it’s been the busiest day I’ve had since I had my heart attack 6 weeks ago been out for most of the day with friends so I’ll leave it there.

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Oh I likely likely your Tecteun/Ranni theory they both have that total scientific ethical/amoral disregard to life. As to my own bonkerising it is only my trying to get my head around who Mrs Flood may be if she’s a previous character of course she may be a totally new character but another comes to mind…. A chameleon Arc’d Rassilon since we’re on the asexual Gallifrey meme.

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Now don’t go shouting me down but I’m suddenly getting the bizarre  crazy bonkerising thought that Mrs flood is not a character we’ve met in the NuWho era but definitely Pre Gap  and no I’m not going to bang on for the old standard.  ‘ it’s the Rani’ but there is another pre gap “female” timelord we haven’t considered and in the televised form we last saw her in E-Space… is it possible she’s a Chamelon arc’d  twisted version of Romana. We know in theory at least, a Timelord can be nominally good but a regeneration can distill the worst characteristics which we have seen in the Doctors case has produced the Valeyard. So why not an evil Romana. Though thinking of the Valeyard and given in the post Zchib era of the timeless child and Bigeneration theres now no reason for him to have been a future life of the Doctor but one of the many past regenerations which has whilst typing this has led me to a second Bonkerising possibility that she is a female Valeyard. The only fly in the ointment so to speak for either of these candidates is the fact that they didn’t  recognise the Tardis from the outset unless Flood was either Chameleon Arc’d and like the master in his YANA personality didn’t remember the Doctors Police Box Tardis but they  had retained memory of Tardises in general. Yes that would have been a rather overly complicated but could fit the facts

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Oh my what an influx of posts o/n @juniperfish I too wondered what this means for Gallifrey though so far the only ones we know were resurrected we the ones dusted by Sutekh’s dust so presumably those that were dead prior stay dead. Right now to look back at the posts I missed

 

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@cathannabell oh please please don’t let Disney have had a hand in that though now you have pointed  it out the suspicion does come to mind I mean even the Cornel  was returned to life though as Sutekhs “first” victim it did make sense

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@thane16 indeed her comment’s appear contradictory at times on one hand there’s menacing intent then on the other hand she’ll appear pleased with the doctors actions or success. It was this behavior that that made me wonder earlier if she was a female incarnation of the master/Missy could it be that the female versions of the master are predisposed to liking the doctor and the male incarnations  are positively homicidal towards him, but as others have noted surely an incarnation of the master would recognise the Tardis so it makes this an unlikely probability.

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Well just rewatched the official BBC showing  of the episode and a couple of things I either missed or they just passed me by. Mrs Flood as well as definitely indicating she is definitely something big to come. I now have a sneaking suspicion that she may not be such a big bad because as well as she said “she had such plans ” when she started to turn to dust but when she  returns she calls the Doctor “you cleaver cleaver boy” now who else has called him that hmmmm but I wouldn’t bet on it being River just yet, my main thought is this series has been asking who is Rubys mother but what if there is a second subtext as the Doctor  is we now know is a foundling who is his Mother could Mrs Flood possibly be his real mother….. may be I’m  just clutching at straws.

The other big reveal was that Sutekhs  “infection” of the Tardis was not recent but he’s been there since the original PoM story. Okay  now I am  rambling.

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Mrs Flood said just before she and gran were turned to dust that she had so many plans this to me seems to indicate she will be a big bad at some point and her behavior is making me think she may be a new Master in the vien of Missy so more of a frenemy again than an outright enemy. Harriet got forcibly ejected from the Tardis by the Tardis shooting some kind of energy weapon when the Doctor regained control of the Tardis. I loved how they have bought in the Memory Tardis concept and have effectively tied in Tales of the Tardis series into the main Who universe.

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So it appears the rumour’s were true or were they and we have unfinished threads to be revealed and that’s all I’ll say for now cause I couldn’t wait and watched it on iPlayer like our fantastic leader😉

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@juniperfish  was a blank post intentional

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Sorry this is a bit delayed thought I has sent this yesterday but @dr-pepper-bean how do you construe the Doctor to be weak and feckless and as to be responsible for negligent homicide how, it was the  Coronels decision to investigate as member of UNIT . Okay  I thought Kate had given the Doctor a bit of an accusatory  glare when they discovered the Col. dead and I thought for a moment she was going to order the Doctor detained but she seemed to recover her composure afterwards. Unit investigates what I term extreme hazard situation so the fact that the Col. died is  let’s face it the term from startrek comes to mind a “red shirt” moment is this the Doctor’s fault probably not remember this was a trap set by Sutekh. Unit was well aware that something was up, the Doctor had previously (off scene) forbidden  Unit using time tech and given in the doctors mind I would assume because the tech was there and if memory serves was used on Gallifrey safely he wouldn’t expect there to be a possibility of them interacting with events. Ok the fact that time suddenly started to appear to be changing would have had me running for the hills but then I’m a big fat scardy cat.

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@ps1l0v3y0u apparently it came from a RTD interview in a Radio Times interview quoted in Screen Rant article about morris only being a temporary replacement. It may have been because the actress was filming a part in Renegade Nel though I can’t see any confirmation of the last bit.

 

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