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5 January 2020 at 20:51 #68843
@miapatrick maybe they are. The Doctor admits she and the Master are very old friends who went in divergent paths. In fact as revealed in the BG story The 5 Doctors the early timelords were evil and cruel enough to create the death zone as gladiatorial form of entertainment so twisted individuals like the master are not unknown to the timelord race.
Sort of based on what the Master said about the Timelord founding fathers and their lying to them and something about the timeless child, and also the fact that we now know a timelord may have more than one set of regenerations. I wonder if this really is the Doctors second set of regenerations but she does not remember as yet. Not sure if it’s cannon to current Whoverse but I remember reading somewhere that early timelords had unlimited regenerations could in fact the Doctor be one of these early “ immortal” timelords and just not remember.
5 January 2020 at 20:17 #68839Well that sets the story arc for this series does one thinks.
Does this re-open the door to the theories that the Doctor is not what we have always thought or for that matter perhaps what she has always thought. It makes you wonder how one time lord could be so pivotal in so many events and what big bad could have sent the Master off on one to have essentially destroyed his his own race if that’s what has happened. We still don’t have an answer as to where this Master lies in his personal timeline but no doubt we we will meet him again. Actually liked the episode even though it didn’t answer all that it started , why were the dimensional spy’s spying in the first place is this a foreboding of a greater invasion etc
5 January 2020 at 09:57 #68826Oh my oh my just had a bit of a bonkers moment thinking back on the Masters statement and I want to just throw this out for consideration: what if Missy was not the Master at all but a Timelord imposter and knew both the Doctor and the Master well enough to fool them perhaps even the Rani playing some sick game……. nah they wouldn’t have done that would they
4 January 2020 at 16:09 #68806@miapatrick that was why good was in “”. Yes she was nicer to the Doctor towards the end and yes she did eventually side with the Doctor at the end, but as you indicated it was in a very amoralistic and practical manner to the point it was difficult to see a difference between “good”Missy and evil Missy at times. The core self-centred egotistical character remained which has always been part of the core identity of the master.
4 January 2020 at 13:58 #68802Having read most but probably not all the posts I think I’ve collected some thoughts inspired by them.
1. I think there is a good possibility that this is a Master from between Sims and Missy hell there could be more than one Master/Missy out there between them.
2. I agree I don’t think they are repeating the Doomsday cyberman infiltration it would be piss poor writing from Chibbers to repeat a trop from another writer and although I’ve not been his greatest fan I think he’s too good a writer to do that. Personally I think these dimension hoping infiltrators are a new race.
3. Could where the Doctor has landed be a prototype for Missy’s later attempt to create her Matrix like heaven, if so this could be more evidence for this Master being between Sims and Missy remember Missy the first time we saw her was more like the archetypal Master it was only later she became more “good” if she ever was
2 January 2020 at 14:13 #68758Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but was it me or did the doctor seem to know where she had been transported to as soon as she saw it
1 January 2020 at 20:44 #68742Lol I have the same dilemma, though to be fair there was a point about half way through where I thought where the hell is this going. There are clues there as I did partially twig to the big reveal just not the identity of the foe until just before it was revealed.
1 January 2020 at 20:14 #68737And let’s just say they managed to keep that bloody quiet
1 January 2020 at 20:06 #68735Omg omg omg talk about fakeout is right. But I ain’t spilling the beans just yet to let those who haven’t had their chance to watch the episode a chance to catch up
4 December 2019 at 15:38 #68457Ah sorry was only really aware of the motor coordination element from working with clients with Learning Difficuties and brain damage as it’s quite common problem
4 December 2019 at 11:05 #68454@janetteb I’m sad to hear you’re prone to falling over or do you mean you have dyslexia which is a problem with reading and writing which in no way means you’re stupid just that your brain interprets what it sees and how to write it differently. In fact some of the smartest ppl in the world have had dyslexia.
26 November 2019 at 11:34 #68419Given last series’s proclivity to have real life historical characters I wonder if Fry will be playing an Oscar Wilde like character
23 November 2019 at 10:52 #68402Lol and hopefully they will give us the series start date too though given the BeeBs usual trailer policy all it will say is coming soon
15 November 2019 at 23:06 #68370Darn it what a disappointment was hoping for something more on the Children in Need from the Who team. But on the other hand what a thrill for the young super fan to meet her idol and getting her own sonic screwdriver
14 November 2019 at 11:51 #68358Hmmm it actually looks a bit like a giant spider has died and it’s legs are curling in around the Center console 😉
13 November 2019 at 08:09 #68349Just been watching an advert for the BBC Children in Need on Friday it appears there’s going to be a Doctor Who segment if past years are any indication there may be news released on the new series or even maybe even a preview of some kind.
11 November 2019 at 18:47 #68341@bluesqueakpip one can hold out hope for news of an Xmas or New Years special as it’s odd there’s been no real news on the BeeBs Christmas schedule maybe just maybe they’re waiting to release the news especially as a special over the festive season has become somewhat of a tradition. Though one would have expected some slippage from the good old US networks if it’s true, as I said one can only hope also it’s not as if Chibbers has held to all Who traditions.
4 September 2019 at 17:48 #68059Hmmm I think alicefran thinks this is a dating site
28 June 2019 at 00:21 #67761The only problem is that you need a Now TV or ROKU device so is not strictly speaking free
25 March 2019 at 11:55 #67465Same here to be honest I generally just ignore thes sick SOBs and delete the messages
26 December 2018 at 14:22 #66940@pedant @kevinwho like you Kevin I too thought this must be a US only trailer as I’ve not seen this new trailer in the uk so I suspect it’s only just started broadcasting. But I wonder if this is because of the US trailer. Oh @pedant if that is only true it would be wonderful if the BeeB had released a trailer with the intention to mislead us or even its an enemy that even the Daleks have been forced to side with the Doctor its not like that hasn’t happened before🤔😜
26 December 2018 at 12:42 #66937Trust the bloody yanks to spoil the suspense. Yes there is a general consensus that from the uk trailers info that it is probably the Daleks that are the big bad of the episode but at least the uk trailer so far had left for it to be a surprise and end up being something else. One has to hope that whoever authorised the BBC America trailer will get a royal ass kicking. I personally hoped it would end up being something else either a new monster say dredged up from the deep dark past of the universe or one from earlier Who like the Dominators. At least prior to this the fans could at least bonkerise in hope.
11 December 2018 at 13:53 #66489@thane16 you don’t know who the quark’s were oh dear oh dear now I do really feel old. You have to go way back to the Troughton era to revisit them. Fortunately I am not quite old enough to have seen the original airing of the story but do remember a rerun the Beeb did though on BBC 2 in the Dominators story
10 December 2018 at 23:18 #66463@nerys I’m not advocating the reuse of one of the usual suspect in fact I could quite happily not see the Daleks or Cybermen for a while. What I was saying is by Chibanall’s apparent eschewing of all past monster he’s possibly missing the chance to reintroduce us to some of the doctors lesser known foes perhaps to even to reinvent that foe into something that has more relevance today. I don’t disagree with introducing new monsters and let’s be honest some of the Doctors best “monsters” have been those that haven’t necessarily start out as a monster but are victims of the situation they find themeselves in. I can understand your husbandinthatrespect as I too am a child of pre-gap who.
10 December 2018 at 21:18 #66454@craig is there any way there could be a method to be notifiedor follow a specific topic without actually posting first,like the notify me of follow up replies is emails, as I often like to follow a conversation thread before putting my own two penny’s worth into the discussion. May be something like the Facebook follow button for any given topic.
10 December 2018 at 21:03 #66453Have to say Chibnall’s insistence on “not” using old monsters or enemies is a bit of a backfire in my own opinion. Yes introduce new “villains” but not using past monsters is totally stupid as it’s like trying to ignore Who lore the Doc has been around that long he/she is bound to bump into old enemies/frenimies at some point. There have been times the past where overuse of old favourites has appeared to be a bit like let’s get this seasons appearance the Daleks or the Cybermen in, but that’s in part because the fans love these characters. It’s not as if there isn’t a plethora of other rogues and villains for Chibnall to pick from in Who lore.
10 December 2018 at 20:46 #66451Lol finally we get to bonkerise that is until another trailer comes along that reveals too much or some idiot insider let’s slip a spoiler 🤪🤣😜😝
9 December 2018 at 10:59 #66380@craig thank you it was probably because I need to edit it twice when I spotted one of the dreaded autocorrect mistakes when reading it through for the second time
8 December 2018 at 20:58 #66358Eek what happened to my last post it appears to have disappeared into space time continuum when I tried to edit a couple of typing and autocorrect errors
8 December 2018 at 20:44 #66357I’m happy to see Jodie is talking about the next series as in my opinion I think it always takes the actor playing the new Doctor at least the first season to bed in the new Docs character also the fans also need time to get used to the changes in what may be a favored portrayal . Given the historic gender change in the Doctor I would say this is more so this season for Jodie and the fans. Also given the way Eccleston was criticised for only doing one season, though I was under the impression that the Beeb were aware this was likely that he would only do one from the outset(others with greater knowledge may know better), I think it would have set back using female actors for incarnations in the future. As to the criticism of Jodie’s portrayal by some of the less enlightened fans shall we say, well my answer of course she’s not Hartnell, Troughton, Baker et al. Just as Jodie wouldn’t portray a grumpy old man or brash young/old man or any of the other character traits actors have bought to the role, non of the male actors would have portrayed the Doctor in a feminine way it just wouldn’t have worked. The Doctor is going to be different from anything that has come before simply because she can now bring character traits that are in most ways a female perspective on how a Doctor would act. I realise this is likely to be considered the wrong place for this discussion but some of the prior comments in part have crystallised some of my feelings as I’ve watched this Jodie’s first season. I’ve sometimes thought hmm this is not exactly the Who I grew up with, (being a TomBakerite as a youngster and avidly watching reruns of earlier Who when they were shown by the BeeB) I have been happy to watch Jodie’s development in the role. Now I know in part the portrayal of the Doctor is being dictated by Chris Chibnal ( I hope I spelt it right) as the the show runner, in part I think I would have loved to see where SM would have taken the role but also appreciate this way CC has started with a blank slate so to speak. Well thanks for bearing with me on my rambling fashion. 😈
6 December 2018 at 13:53 #66234Just read in today’s Metro that the 1967 Troughton doc story The Macra Terror is to be rereleased as a DVD it being being redone as animation with the original audio recordings to be released next March. Surprised not heard about this before now via the official BBC site
16 October 2018 at 01:15 #64540I loved this episode and felt that JW was continuing to cement herself into the role as the Doctor. I felt that this episode was essentially a continuation of the introduction of the new Doctor and the new companions.
As for the Stenza, I am not 100% convinced yet that they are a part of any underlying arc though I am not ruling that out yet. I don’t know why but there was a fleeting moment when Bradley Walsh’s character was rubbing his chest or abdomen that made me think he’s only signed up for one series and given that Graham is supposed to be a cancer survivor I couldn’t quite shake the feeling they were setting up an out for him, especially given B W’s workload on his quiz show does not appear to have been effected.
As for the new TARDIS interior I felt we haven’t really seen enough to make a proper judgement on it, though I did like what I saw . If memory serves me all the post AG Tardis interiors have been very organic or steampunky and pre gap the interiors and control panels were more technical and scientific so it’s not surprising they’ve continued in the same vein.
23 September 2018 at 23:37 #64119Hmmm, I see she’s going with a northern accent lol so reinforcing the notion of the Doctor comes from the Gallifreyan “ North” . Is the background music the actual music for the series, it seems more in keeping with past MG style music and not as pop culture orientated that the Beebs British trailers have been indicating. I think I actually prefer the Auzzie version as you can concentrate on the action and what is said better.
10 September 2018 at 20:32 #64084I had the opurtunity to watch the teaser again but on the TV today rather than on YouTube. For some reason the music didn’t seem quite so jarring for some reason, weather it was the volume seemed lower or I was seeing it on a bigger screen it seemed better.
8 September 2018 at 10:20 #64063@blenkinsopthebrave hmm have we been spoiled by the magnificent Murray Gold’s most excellent musical renditions over the years or is it I’m getting to be an old fuddy-duddy but I agree I hope that teasers music is not going to be the musical tone of Jodie’s tenure as the Doctor don’t get me wrong modern music can be appropriate but the key word is where appropriate.
4 September 2018 at 19:55 #64002Hmmm I had wondered if they were going to go for the 20th or 21st October it being the weekend just before Dr Who’s anniversary on the 23rd and it being almost a relaunch of who with Jodie and Chibbers taking over. Of course if they wanted to go the whole hog so to speak they could have gone for the Tuesday as a one off then settled to whatever day it’s going to be broadcast ( just my own wild theory).
26 August 2018 at 18:30 #63867Funny there’s nowt on the official web site though
7 February 2018 at 20:35 #63106Don’t know if anyone else has seen the Mirrors article about there being discussions on possibly moving Who to a Sunday slot. Not sure if it’s a fake news article but my gut reaction was Nooooooo to me the Spiritual home of Dr Who has always been early Saturday evenings. In my own personal opinion a lot of BG Who’s problems started when they started messing with its time slot and moving it to week days.
25 December 2017 at 19:46 #62731Well what can I say what a marvellous send off for Peter I couldn’t but help think that the tessera (well that’s what I think I heard their name as) were actually trying to ensure the Doctor’s Regenerated. It was as expected that the Captain was a Lethbridge-Stewart and Mark Gatiss played him with definite aplomb.
I thought the use of Bill was nice and actually gave the Doctor a chance a proper chance to say goodbye. Loved the cameo of Mz Coleman as Clara, love the character or hate her Clara was such a big part of the Capaldi Doctors early life it would have been wrong not to have played the character some kind of nod much like they did with Karen Gillan as Amy for Matt Smith.
As to the first impressions of Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor and they are only initial impressions because of the obviously short screen time is that she could quite possibly make a very good Doctor. My one issue being haven’t we done the Doctor falling from the sky from the TARDIS.
Overall I enjoyed the episode and long may we all be able to enjoy who.
14 August 2017 at 17:47 #61716Can I say Hear Hear to those saying let’s just give Jodie a chance and see how her first season goes I am purposely not including the regeneration scene as such a short screen time is not realistically giving her a chance and given the dramatic change it will probably take an episode or two to bed the new doctors character. Also JWs taking on the role of the Doctor is a very brave and courageous act because if she does disastrously it will almost certainly bar future females and possibly even a non white actor from taking the role in the future. Given this fact she should be applauded for her courage and CC must have been very sure of his choice as if it does not go well his run as showrunner will be very short. He could have possibly gone for “safer and more popular” female actors but has instead gone for someone he apparently believes can deliver the right female Doctor.
23 July 2017 at 23:28 #61351@craig I was only say it because between spoilers and BBC approved spoiler pages thes going to be a lot of repetition and duplication of effort otherwise an to be honest I am a slow one finger typist myself so if I can cut down on duplicating replays it would be nice 😃
23 July 2017 at 23:15 #61347Lol @craig we seemed to have posted the same idea at the same time perhaps we should say jinks
23 July 2017 at 23:13 #61345@blenkinsopthebrave don’t think it will be The Lethbridge-Stewart but it could be his father as Gatis’s character appears to comes from the First World War which would make him too old
23 July 2017 at 23:03 #61341@craig Are you going to create a separate topic page for the Christmas special like for the JW announcement as unless we are all going to hibernate for 6 months it’s going to be impossible to miss all the talk and it will give us somewhere to bonkerise
18 July 2017 at 17:21 #61020@ holly110 that was uncalled for this site since I joined several years ago has always stood for free speech all that Craig has stipulated is that if you disagree you be polite about it and preferably you back up your view/argument all point with some kind of evidence.
18 July 2017 at 17:15 #61018Well the announcement of JW as the next Doctor has caused dissension in the Devilish household 😭😢 when telling my partner about her appointment he said “well I won’t be watching it” when I asked him why he said the Doctor has always been a male and the change will lose the show viewers. Now whilst I may agree the show may lose some “fans” I think it will possibly gain even more as young girls who may have not been interested in science fantasy (I agree the show has never really been science fiction , but has always had a science element as part of its conception from the start as I understood). You only have to look at the young girls reaction that I caught on YouTube, sorry can’t post a link, to understand that there will be a whole new generation of viewers who will be more likely to watch the show as it will be seen as less of a boys show. Now if this is political correctness well I find I can go along with it as it may just in the long run garauntee the survival of the show. Keeping something a certain way just for the sake of keeping the status quo leads to stagnation to grow you need evolution and I feeel that is what the show has done since the restart AG.
17 July 2017 at 17:35 #60932@thane15 to add to your list of possible hints that the Doctor could become female you can even go back to Tennantdoc and the DoctorsDaughter episode and Jenny who was actually supposed to be a clone if a female Doctor wasn’t possible Jenny should have been male
17 July 2017 at 13:27 #60897I have been a Who fan since early childhood (early seventies) And having watched/read most of the posts regarding Mz Whittaker’s appointment I thought I would put down some of my thoughts and apologise is any of my points have already been made.
Given that Who started in the 60’s broadcasting was still pretty much a male dominated domain so early Who would not have considered a gender change for the main role, but if the show had started today the idea of changing the Doctor’s gender would almost certainly been considered before now as it would have been considered an almost logical extension of the possibilities of regeneration. So I really don’t agree with all the nay sayers who are saying they will not watch Who any more. What is important whatever the gender is that the actor/ess has the ability carry the role and embodies all that the Doctor stands for.
16 July 2017 at 23:15 #60830Well I will say I am sorry JWs outfit isn’t an indication on how she will look because I though it gave her both an air of gravitas and mystery at once and the boots definitely gave an impression of I’m here to kick *&& and take names. Oh lord you do realise the darn fashion police will be scrutinising her every outfit she is seen in public between now and the next series
16 July 2017 at 18:47 #60799Oops forgot to follow the thread when I posted
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