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    @cathannabel

    Apparently, ‘Caves of Androzani this was not’. Good.

    Yes, I saw that one and agreed. As hard as I tried, I couldn’t remember a crap “Magma Monster” in this episode at all. The one in “Caves” made @chickenelly (where she!?) want to throw something at their screen. 🙂

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    @magnetite

    Ah..those Christmas episode G blogs always seem to draw a higher proportion of negative comments. A combination of indigestion, apres-dinner wind, and Santa not delivering a hoped for prezzie I’ve always assumed.

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    #23367
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    Evening all

    Bloody hell. That was full! Lots to digest and I’ll need a rewatch. I can’t help thinking those people who thought that The Snowmen last year was a bit difficult to follow for the average Christmas viewer would have had a complete MELTDOWN on that one!

    Great turn by Matt, nice to see Amy. Loved the fact that Matt was wearing a wig actually became part of the plot.

    “I’m wearing a wig”

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    I also thought I’d pop in to wish follow members and lurkers the best Christmas or alternative seasonal-celebration-you-wish-to-call-it possible.

    The time is 22:25 GMT on 24th December, or thereabouts. You may be reading this in the future, or the past. Frankly, I don’t know because I don’t know which Time Zone you are reading this in and, increasingly, I don’t care. My experiment with a home made alternative to Kriek (a cherry enhanced strong wheat beer) has paid dividends. I have barrels of the stuff, it’s rather nice, and I have been indulging.

    Hope @FatManInASleigh will have stuffed/has stuffed your stockings with goodies. Happy whatever!

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    @whisht

    Brilliant stuff. I watched the first series again a little while ago, and in the episode Art it struck me I was watching Ida from Impossible Planet (Claire Rushbrook) interview Joan Redfern from Human Nature (Jessica Hynes) for a job. With a guest role from Gibbis from God Complex as a six foot transexual. I decided I really have become a bit Who centric in thought patterns!

    I really want to see Mark Heap and The Actor Kevin Eldon turn up in Who someday. Both very weird with a lot to offer

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    @whisht

    Spaced duly noted! I’d forgotten Mark Gatiss was in it. Isn’t he partnered with Kevin Eldon as Matrix-style “agents”? 😀

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    #23279
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    @janetteb @scaryb

    Thanks for the input on the ideas front, the more the merrier. Fringe was actually a big omission, and maybe @janetteb and @jimthefish can help me work out some decent eps for that (there are many, but I’d try to avoid really arc heavy ones). There is some Doomwatch online. Only a limited number were released commercially as they didn’t sell well.

    I’ll also mention Sapphire and Steel because we had mention of Joanna Lumley on the Time of the Doctor thread, and it was a suggestion by @miapatrick.

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    @purofilion

    Have a good Christmas yourself (and to anybody else who is going to duck out while they await the episode being shown in their territory). Join us for virtual mince pies and cold turkey sandwiches when you have a chance to watch it.

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    @juniperfish

    Hello! Irrespective of whether we get a dark doppelganger in the ep, can I ask if you will be gracing us with a final comprehensive look up guide to bow tie colours for Matt Smiths run after this episode? Such vital research must be discussed!

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    @devilishrobby @blenkinsopthebrave @bluesqueakpip @arbutus @wheels @scaryb

    I think my post about the regenerations was more to do with the fact there are lots of things in the past that could have topped up his regenerations in one way or another that he’d not be fully aware of the consequences. He’s been exposed to numismatron (the source of the Sisters “technology”) in Brain of Morbius, Planet of Fire, and Night of the Doctor, for instance. He was rejuvenated in a Tachyon regenerator in The Leisure Hive. He’s been exposed to all sorts over the years in his travels. He’s had an uncertain amount of regeneration energy donated by River in Let’s Kill Hitler. He may be uncertain himself about his own regenerative powers, and with good reason. He’s done a lot more than most Time Lords.

    I think the problem with the “gets a new cycle” is that is just shifts the problem to the 26th Doctor, someone who isn’t even born yet. It’ll be interesting to see which route they go down.

    I’d firmly agree with the “There is no canon” argument. The only people who can really decide what is or is not canon are the creators, and they refuse to do so. It’s ironic that the single announcement the BBC made on “canon” was that the Doctor is immortal now (link to Guardian) when RTD wrote Death of the Doctor. Fandom basically said “NNNNNOOOOOOOOOO – 13 Lives Rule!” and refused to take a pronouncement on canon from the only people who can dictate it. It’s really funny really. 😀 I think the BBC have just thought – “ah bugger it, Stephen can you address this point on screen somehow?”

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    @bluesqueakpip

    Everything’s better with explosions.

    This is certainly true. I think Red Dwarf demonstrated this admirably by importing a Russian Tank into Jane Austen world and blowing stuff up. I think Ms. Austen would have approved.

    I like the fairytale analogy and:

    Which means the Doctor’s story is one of ‘Voyage and Return’. We’ve spent the first fifty years watching the ‘Classic’ Doctors run away from Gallifrey; now we’re watching our new set of Doctors run towards it.

    Yep – if your going down the route of “we’re all just stories in the end”, why not go for one of the first ones, the “epic quest”. From a similar period to @blenkinsopthebrave s choice of viewing material, it took Odysseus 10 years to get back to Ithica, and that was practically round the corner compared to the Doctors potential hunt. I’m sure they can get another 50years out of his quest. 😉

    #23235
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    Oh well, time for some last minute speculation/hopes for the Christmas special. Final pieces of speculation for Matt Smith! Sob.

    It’s been a fun period no doubt, and lots of stuff to ponder and think about. Back on the G, in the series 6 threads, we kind of rejoiced over the curtailment of the God Doctor a bit, and some hopes for a kind of rebirth.

    I think SMs reign has been one of redefinition, to a certain extent. I think the Daleks were the first to feel it, and with the exception of a redesign that was probably a bit OTT, their other appearances in cameo and in Asylum make me think that he’s taken them out of the trap of “too powerful, yet always lose in a final, final, yes-we-really mean-final-this-time-battle”. The last two skirmishes have been score draws really. No final ever battle ad nauseum. I like it.

    Day of the Doctor has really paved a route out of the “Last of the Time Lords” angst thing, in a novel way. Same result, but there is hope within him.

    So what I’d really like for Christmas is for Matt to be the “last” Doctor. Yep, number 13. I said on the DotD thread that would take it past the Valeyard “end point” and then onto new pastures as he gets past the 13 lives “rule”. I know some people seem to anticipate him going on a quest to free Gallifrey and the Time Lords who, in their natural generosity (snigger), will hand him a new set, but for me that’s not the Doctor. Oh, he’ll complain about the end when it comes, and is in no hurry to jump the queue, but actually seek it an extension? I doubt it somehow. It would put him with the crazy people.

    So it would be brilliant if he came to the end, suddenly regenerated and didn’t know why it happened. A new mystery to unravel, and one that may be in the past. He’s often gone up against seekers of immortality and been exposed to whatever they’re after. Maybe it rubbed off? Maybe he’ll never quite know if he can regenerate? Nothing to be taken for granted. Lots of jeopardy. Lots of uncertainty, which is why the Myth of the Doctor continues. All that, that is rebirth.

    So yeah, I’d like that for Christmas.

    Oh, and:

    • Explosions,
    • Jokes,
    • Sad bits,
    • A roller-coaster ride of epic proportions.

    I’m taking the last four as odds-on certainties.

    #23228
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    I had a bit of a revelation this morning. I was watching (by accident) a Christmas special of Saturday Kitchen, and it featured some very old footage of an old favourite.

    The bow ties, the wild exuberance, the arm waving and the feeling you are watching someone who is probably completely bonkers. Was Keith Floyd the model for Doctor 11? I demand to know!

    Keith – a man who was so bonkers his theme tune was “waltzinblack” by The Stranglers and it didn’t seem insane.

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    @fatmaninabox

    Thanks for that – I ended up watching the full episode afterwards, and I think common sense (or bonkersness) has won out, and it’s a likely candidate for the watch club. 😀

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    Of course – it would have helped if I’d noticed @wolfweed had got there first with Caption competition 49. He’s too quick – Off to think of an obvious joke myself.

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    I don’t know if anyone is in the environs of Basingstoke, but apparently you can see THE Coling Baker (billed as star of Doctor Who and I’m a celebrity…) in panto in Aladdin.

    He’s the pantomime villain. Queue orderly to make the obvious jokes!

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    @blenkinsopthebrave

    I expect a full report when you’ve cranked up the VHS!

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    @wolfweed @blenkinsopthebrave

    Bravo on the additional choices. The long drought will fly by, I’m sure. I’ll keep on eye out for Casanova. Some of these things come and go, so it may well change.

    Thanks for the Babylon 5 ideas Blenkinsop. I’d actually forgotten Coming of Shadows was released on a number of other videos (as a taster to get people into it) just after it won the Hugo award, so it must have been considered by the marketers as a good entry point, and the general setup of the series isn’t too complicated to explain to that point. Plus it’s a strong Londo and G’Kar story, which is a bonus!

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    @fatmaninabox

    Yay! Another ‘Scaper. Some good suggestions from the earlier series. I kept being drawn to S4 Relativity/Kansas when talking about Time concepts, but it’s not a good intro to the series.

    Half of me does want to go bonkers with the choice. Won’t get fooled again was the episode that made me re-evaluate it (I didn’t have a clue what was going on, but I laughed myself hoarse). Revenging Angel truly is brilliant, as is so much more of it. It’s a really difficult choice. It’s great to have a clear connection to Doctor Who ever since Ben Browder appeared in Town called Mercy.

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    @jimthefish

    You might enjoy the episode of Dwarf I’m thinking of as it features Clare Grogan and Mark Williams (well before he was Rory’s dad obviously).

    Thanks for the suggestions. Flip Side of Dominic Hyde is a really good call. The Stone Tape seems to be back up as well.

    I was struggling to think about what episodes from the Whedonverse I’d pick, and so am pretty open to any suggestion or pitches to cover them. It would be good to have a blog to discuss some of those shows on though, and perhaps how much of an influence they did have on revitalising Doctor Who. With Angel there was a thread about learning to deal with immortality which has always been a thing with Who, but it depends on how people wanted to approach it.

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    @wolfweed

    Hitchhikers is a good one. Be very interesting to cover it with one of the stories he did for Who, either as writer or Script Editor (because his influence always showed).

    Just because I remember from the TV thread you watched Farscape, I was wondering about an episode from that, but struggled to think of an episode or 2 parter that wasn’t too arc heavy. It’s a bit tricky, so any thoughts yourself?

    I had a similar question for @janetteb on any suggestions for Babylon 5, if she’s around.

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    Morning all

    As you start to wind down for the Christmas season, with all that spare time on your hands (excluding such trivial concerns as family, dinner, presents, having the kids under your feet, travel chaos, etc), when you find yourself at a loss, can I ask you to have a think about what TV you’d nominate for a wider “watch club” for the site?

    A lot of shows do get brought up as we discuss other things, and having a blog or forum may enable a wider discussion about the shows themselves, which could be helpful and diverting for the long gap between Christmas Special and Series 8. It doesn’t necessarily have to be sci-fi fantasy, and it doesn’t necessarily have to have clear links to Doctor Who. I’ve got some ideas but I’d prefer it if it wasn’t restricted to my own DVD collection.

    A couple of my thoughts (with occasional prompting from other people).

    • @tardisblue asked about Colin Baker. As well as featuring one of his stories, we could tie it in with an episode of Blake’s 7 in which he does a turn as “Baben the Butcher”. Talking points include the fact that the Fourth Doctor almost met Blake on screen, and don’t Servalan and Mdm Kovarian share some similarities.
    • A couple of Red Dwarf episodes are very timey wimey. It may be interesting to have a look at one of them. Talking of Mdm Kovarian, Frances Barber proved her fangirl credentials by begging for a small guest role in Dwarf, and forced her partner to take a part. Also, can you remember when the TARDIS was seen on “the Dwarf”?
    • Some seasons of Star Trek Voyager seemed to feature no end of timey wimeyness. So, is the two part Year of Hell a better use of “the big ol’ reset button” or not? It may be co-incidence that all the major episodes that dealt with the holographic Doctor seemed to be lifted from Red Dwarf episodes and the holographic character Arnold Rimmer, but not a coincidence that there is dialogue in The Lodger that references his catchphrase “Please state the nature of the medical emergency”.
    • Nightmare Man was a one off based on a novel by the BBC and plays out like a lost Doctor Who story, in 4 x 20odd minute segments. That’s probably no coincidence with Robert Holmes writing, Douglas Camfield directing and Graeme Harper as production manager. Featuring Maurice Roeves and Celia Imrie, an isolated Scottish Island seems to come under attack from a brutal killer
    • You could wonder how the makers of the Stargate franchise got away with making so much product out of the basic premise of Pyramids of Mars. Window of Opportunity is a classic example of the Groundhog Day episode, which an astonishing number of shows have attempted with varying degrees of success.
    • For no other reason than “life after Doctor Who”, how about an episode of A Very Peculiar Practice, featuring Peter Davison? It’s absolutely barking, and highly recommended.

    Loads more, but I’d like to hear your ideas, at whatever point.

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    @arbutus

    In your own time really on any contributions. I’d never analyse on first listening as well, as that robs something from the experience. I usually need a bit of distance before certain things start sinking in.

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    @nonameface

    As @thekrynoidman said, it’s Angels Take Manhatten. I do hope we’re not giving you an unfair advantage in any competition. 😉

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    @MartyB

    No pressure on the blog front. As you say, it was just to point out there is another option if anybody wants to have a go.

    Most people have something they want to enthuse about and it can be good to air your thoughts. Ironically, with blogs, the more people do it, the less work it seems to become, and it can add significantly to the site I’ve always felt.

    #23130
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    Just a quick note of explanation about something. You may have noticed a “Guest Blogger” identity has been set up and hosted @nick s thoughts on the Day of the Doctor Time Line.

    Basically it’s just another way of creating blogs for anyone who is interested in writing something. If you look at the list of blogs it covers some fairly wide territory, and not just on Doctor Who, so if you’ve ever wanted to give a point-of-view on Doctor Who, talk about other television shows, films, books, fanfictions or whatever. you can send us your text and any pictures. This way you don’t particularly have to worry about learning the blog tools (which aren’t very different to normally commentating, but if you want formatting beyond the normal it can be useful to know some HTML code) and just on what you want to say.

    Contact a mod if you’ve got an idea and want to learn more.

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    @devilishrobby

    to be smith nudity if I’m reading the article right I bet it will just be a bare chest knowing what a tease the grand Moff can be as he says it’s appropriate for teatime tv

    Ahhh. I still remember The Lodger and “Bollockgate” – all those internet discussions about whether you could see Mr. Smiths “man vegetables” in his shower scene. Some people were obsessed!

    #23007
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    It’s a good job DFS have a policy of having a sale on every day of the year, because we do seem to get through Sofa’s pretty quickly.

    Did anyone remember to check down behind the cushions when the old one was retired?

    I’ve had a shit day, but have managed to break the Christmas shop. I will not be going anywhere till the New Year. Every place I went into seemed to have Wings “Wonderful Christmas Time” on loop. Guantanamo Bay could learn a lot from our retailers. I would have confessed to the JFK assassination to make it stop, and I wasn’t even born then.

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    @timeloop

    a) Good old @phaseshift

    You’re not going to let the age thing go anytime soon are you. 😉

    Apologies for having to drop out. Our local telephone exchange is having improvement works to increase internet speed. In the fine tradition of UK workmanship, this means that everything has become much slower, or like yesterday, non-existent.

    #22801
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    Can I just say though that sometimes patience is rewarded. I almost gave up on Person of Interest about three quarters of the way through the first series, and I’m really glad I stuck with it. The end of the series pulled me back, and the second made me re-evaluate the first in light of new information. It had been playing a very long game. The last few episodes shown for series 3 were quite shocking with a regular character being killed, and the slightly paranoid feeling in the show about surveillance culture is great fun.

    Amy Acker has been a great introduction as the psychopathic Root, and her relationship with Michael Emerson’s Finch and his unseen “Machine” is great TV.


    Sexiest Joker on Deviant Art

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    @timeloop

    Drat my slow internet connection! (Shakes fist at sky) 😀

    #22799
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    Marvel Agents of Shield

    It’s that age old conundrum for me – when do I give up on a series?

    I’ve been bitten before – Firefly initially passed me by because I watched the first few at the wrong time really. My mind was on work and other things, and I ended up dismissing it. I only really got into it after seeing the Serenity film, and then buying the DVD after cancellation. I also had a similar problem with Farscape. I watched the first few on the back of a wave of reviews talking about “Muppets in Space” and gave up. It was a chance encounter with a rerun of an episode from the second series that made me re-evaluate my life choices.

    So you can go the other way, and watch a series too long because of the people in front or behind the scenes, almost willing it to get better. Which it probably won’t. I think I’ve reached that point with AoS.

    I haven’t watched the movie Avengers Assemble and originally thought my problem may be that, but I’ve been assured by other people who have seen it that it doesn’t really add that much understanding to the Universe. I think the problems for me are twofold-

    • I think Skye is supposed to be our entry point character, but because she starts with some knowledge (even if a negative view) she isn’t really a great way to introduce the concepts.
    • The Zeppo effect (to coin a term from a Whedon show). In “The Zeppo” you had another Buffy apocalypse going on in the background which interrupted the misadventures of Xander and his self esteem problems. It was a joke that worked well, but I can’t help thinking that the ongoing references to other characters in the Marvel franchise (designed to assure you that you are still in the same Universe) are a constant reminder that there are probably really exciting adventures going on somewhere, but you’re stuck watching the unexciting characters.

    I quite like Coulson’s slightly subdued attitude, and grasped that the arc about him coming back/surviving death may hold some, but the other characters seem a bit wafer thin at the moment and I don’t find much charisma in evidence. @juniperfish, on another blog, suggested that she gritted her teeth at some of the forced elements to introduce chemistry between the characters, and I’d agree. Both sexual tension and conflicts all seem a little forced to me.

    So – as well produced (it looks splendid) as it is, I don’t think it’s for me at the moment. I think it’s an interesting idea to try to develop these ideas in a franchise, but something seems off kilter. I’ll think I’ll duck out and wait for the comments that it all got better in series 2/3 or whenever.

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    @scaryb

    No offence taken at all. 🙂

    I will point out to @purofilion that if they feel aggrieved by anything they can take it up with another Mod or @craig by PM. We’re not a hive mind and that may seem a more sensible course of action to take rather than to immediately withdraw from the site.

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    @purofilion

    Nothing in my post would suggest you haven’t found a home here. When moving into a new home, you may be unaware of wider issues in your neighbourhood and it can be wise to tread carefully.

    From my point of view, @denvaldron was the subject of some unfortunate attitudes when first joining, which are directly “clique” related. However, the after effects of mentions (which are copied to the user by e-mail, as you know) can create a drip feed of feedback which to the receiver may paint a negative picture of the site. Not, in your words, very friendly. I have used his username to directly tell him I am making this point and would urge other users to consider this point carefully.

    We welcome contributions and will work to find the appropriate place to put them. However, my duties of Mod include thinking about the welfare of all those who have signed up.

    Some old arguments are best to keep out of, if you don’t know the context.

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    @purofilion

    I’m not quite sure what value you are adding to this point, which has caused some difficulty in the past and, in fact, is an exchange that happened before you joined the site. For more information, please refer to the last couple of pages of the website comments section.

    #22762
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    All this talk of Crimson Horror and Diana Rigg is opportune! We have a new idea to try out in a side project for anyone who wants some additional “homework”. An opportunity to view and discuss her work in The Avengers – Too Many Christmas Tree.

    @miapatrick

    one course I came across a comment about how, in the 19th century, novels were a kind of conversation, influenced by and influencing each other. I think the same can be true about television programs, and Doctor Who is especially chatty

    Absolutely – the way TV culture bounces ideas between itself is astonishing, especially if they share some similar personnel, or have time to sink into pop culture. I hope you enjoy it, as I think it has a lot to offer the Doctor Who fan. I’ll be interested to see what people make of the relationship between Steed and Mrs Peel, certainly.

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    @tennantmarsters2013

    It’s entirely up to you if you wish to develop an idea. Cross-over fan fictions that go outside the Doctor Who Universe aren’t really my cup of tea though. I even avoid the “official” ones like the recent comic crossover of Doctor Who/ST:TNG.

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    @juniperfish

    Only 23 sleeps til I’m regenerating! (SFX interview)

    Made me laugh. 🙂

    I meant to thank @wolfweed for the footage from the BFI Q&A. There was a definite air of “last day of school” about Moffat and Gatiss in the Q&A which made me think the pressure of the year was being allowed to vent a little. The “WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!?” rant, and the joking that “It has been noticed that television just handed cinema it’s ass” had me creased up. Loved the Whisperman voice from Gatiss, “Of course he knew” regarding the question about whether Moffat knew about the recovered Troughton when reintroducing the GI.

    Brilliant fun that.

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    @miapatrick

    I’m glad you posted – I think I may have found it elsewhere! It’s not a site I use that often, but it seems to have been there a while. I’ll watch it through to make sure it’s OK and if so, we’ll launch it as a trial. As homework goes, The Avengers is a great one. 🙂

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    @fatmaninabox

    Hmmm. Tricky. As someone who definitely Colin’s tenure is a black spot, I think the clip from the Proms was from Trials (The one about corruption?), four stories in a box set for about 13 quid from Amazon and the BBC shop.

    The stories we were thinking of looking at for the retrospective were Revelation of the Daleks or Vengeance on Varos (currently more popular). BBC shop about £5.50. (Varos has a special edition for 2 quid more).

    If you’re thinking of spending Trials money, an alternative could be the Bred For War Box set, which features all 4 Sontaran stories from the BG years. Time Warrior, Sontaran Experiment, Invasion of Time and, for Doctor Six, The Two Doctors. That’s 12 quid on Amazon.

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    @juniperfish

    You received a recommend from me, and I’m delighted to see you gearing up for next years “Golden Plug” of the Year award by publicising @bluesqueakpip s blog. Excellent work! 😉

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    Evening all –

    @danmartinuk is not letting the 50th being shown damp the celebratory year. He’s continuing his retrospective pick of episodes by suggesting that Dalek was the best for CE. You can find it at:

    http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2013/dec/10/dalek-doctor-who-classic-episode-christopher-eccleston

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    @wolfweed

    Very nice! There’s too much obvious talent on this site. I’m off to kick the cat.

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    @jimthefish @scaryb @all

    I’ll leave nomination open on episodes as we aren’t in an immediate rush. If people can mention stuff on the Sofa it would be useful. I read everything, and note down stuff as we go, but I do sometimes miss the odd one (so apologies if I’ve not mentioned one you’ve mentioned before).

    Time Meddler is available, but a run of Time Lord based material may test the patience. Certainly bits of Trial would mine – I think I’d have to sit that bit out.

    I try to avoid suggestions for single or a couple of episodes from one story, as some on the Forum choose to buy the DVD fresh, so we may as well select material we can watch from beginning through to the end.

    I’ll have a think about the Doctor Eight idea. I don’t mind contacting Big Finish to ask, because they can only tell me to bugger off. Some may have noticed the links to BF material on my recent blog contain an expression about the source of the link being thedoctorwhoforum. That’s so a link will just display that information in whatever analytics they compile. If they see we are providing links that people are using, that may enable a bit of goodwill.

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    @craig

    is 43 old?

    Nah – sounds about perfect to me. (Says Phaseshift, mid-forties).

    We lived through amazing, and sometimes frightening, times.

    I agree – the 80s were a bit “clinchy” on occasion, when it looked like someone was going to press the wrong button. The less said about 70s dress sense the better (I take it that was what you were referring to by “frightening”). But overall – wouldn’t change it. University with a grant. Real opportunity for social mobility by skill and ability. Advent of computers, and we’ll probably get to pop our clogs before the world goes to hell in a hand-basket.

    Sounds ideal to me. 🙂

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    Talking of Christmas Specials, I was going to launch an idea as a surprise before Christmas. In a discussion with @miapatrick we suggested a wider “Watch Club” to take in other series, perhaps with an emphasis on links to writers, producers, actors with a Doctor Who connection. An episode of this, a short series of another. Very loose and evolving depending on how participants felt about it.

    My intention was to talk about The Avengers episode – Too Many Christmas Trees, which I watch every year on DVD. It’s from the last year of the B&W period and bloody fantastic, showing how far ahead of the curve the show was. I had it all, an intro written, points to look out for and a link to the video before…. the video I had found was pulled. I’ll try to post my thoughts about it on the general TV thread at some time, but that was the kind of idea we were hoping to try.

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    We’ve had quite a few people talking about episode retrospectives across the forums recently, and while we are not going to dash into them before the Christmas Special, I just thought I’d summarise what I’ve read, just in case I’ve missed something. Please feel free to nominate more or a favourite(s) listed:

    2nd Doctor

    I think there has been a general call for a revisit of Mind Robber, which as I said on the Dear Santa blog, we almost went for.

    3rd Doctor

    Again, Day of the Doctor has an obvious attraction if you’ve enjoyed @bluesqueakpip s blog. Ironically, @bluesqueakpip also mention Curse of Peladon in the past if you prefer one of the rare early tales of Pertwee on an alien world.

    4th Doctor

    We almost went for Robots of Death, but there are quite a few that have been mentioned including City of Death, Genesis of the Daleks (a bit obv?) and Deadly Assassin. Given the Time Lord association of the recent special, Deadly Assassin is the first real look at Gallifrey and does highlight what I call the pitfalls of the Time Lords, although it’s a good story.

    5th Doctor

    Kinda has been mentioned in passing as has Earthshock and the Five Doctors. Arc of Infinity was raised today as potential, and you could view that in conjunction with Deadly Assassin to see some of the Time Lord themes developing.

    6th Doctor

    Yes – we have a request for six. One of the 2×45 minute stories I think. Vengeance on Varos or Resurrection of the Daleks (@ScaryB already plumbed for her other avatar Sil, in Vengeance).

    7th Doctor

    Everyone wants Curse of Fenric. Happy to oblige.

    Eight

    Pretty tricky. We talked about The Movie. We’ve talked about the Night of the Doctor. A communal listen if we can arrange it? BF have done offers in the past. It may be worth a punt to send an e-mail to them and ask if they have any offers coming up, or they could do us an exclusive to tempt more custom. I’ll have a think about that one.

    Nine – Eleven

    Maybe pick another writer who has written for all three and follow their progress. Mark Gatiss perhaps?

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    @scaryb

    That will be our mighty Mod/Time Lord @phaseshift, looking particularly dashing as Roger Delgado

    Oh – lovely crawling. Take a gold star. 😀

    I’m so glad you’ve never seen me in reality. It would quite ruin your ideas of me.

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