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11 October 2015 at 01:00 #44449
I am not sure what happened to Smith Doctor’s
I suspect its net effect was to make the Doctor neither the cosmic hobo nor the mighty warrior, but noted by those in-the-know and maybe with a popular following (a la Unit fangirl). Think Che Guevara c/w Chairman Mao.
11 October 2015 at 00:51 #44447@purofilion
I don’t necessarily agree, as in Season 4, Angelus is incredibly frightening
Season 2 (he was off into spin-off land by S4)
Pedant.
10 October 2015 at 21:09 #44422Would it be boastful to mention who noted the loops have no origin?
Spelt out in text – if that doesn’t have some pertinence to Clara’s eventual fate I’ll eat my Haagan Daz ice cream
9 October 2015 at 09:31 #44362@purofilion
PS: I’m always amazed at the ‘Englisher’s’ ability to stay up SO late. It must be nearly 3 am! Golly.
That’s just ‘cos I was making room for MY NEW BED!!!!!!! which is being assembled by the nice chaps from John lewis even as I write this.
9 October 2015 at 02:08 #44349@purofilion
It would be better to watch the film – the trailers are, to put it mildly, wilfully misleading.
9 October 2015 at 01:10 #44347Apropos of Finally Got Round to A Second Watch:
I pointed Joss Whedon nod with the reference to Cabin in the Woods. An unlikely thing for a 22nd Century gal to be referencing, you might think. Then you remember the premise of the film.
8 October 2015 at 16:33 #44325If there is it will most likely be thematic and conceptual, rather than literal (although Robots of Sherwood – an episode many totally missed the point of, despite it being spelled out in dialogue) suggests that there might be a little room for both.
7 October 2015 at 19:20 #44276Ah, that’s a shame. Sodding bots are such a pain.
FWIW I use Wordfence on the sites I manage (just the free version) at is helps a lot with erroneous traffic – it will spot and block fake Googlebots for instance); Stop Spammers Spam Control is pretty good if you want to block a whole country (China, say). Tricky with a global fan base, but sometimes the nuclear option is all that gets the job done (I have clients who will cheerfully click on any sodding link they see)
6 October 2015 at 01:47 #44152Any chance of having the activity feed back on for the duration of the run? When things are fast moving its tricky follow multiple threads (no problem if you can’t afford it, but if there is a bit of wriggle room…)
Ta!
4 October 2015 at 21:39 #44058NASA has released a load of Apollo images. They are incredible. Be awed
3 October 2015 at 01:12 #43946I’ve just seen the Guardian article – a replacement for the Sarah Jane Adventures, after a suitable pause following Elizabeth Sladen’s untimely demise.
I’m not so sure about that. I know several writers who trade in the YA market and I would say that they are most definitely not in the same genre as SJA – and it is BBC3 not CBBC.
I rather like the idea of Doctor Who meets Press Gang – perhaps Julia Sawalha could be headmistress…
2 October 2015 at 01:03 #43914😉
2 October 2015 at 00:09 #439091 October 2015 at 23:31 #43906Well now.
Torchwood: The YA Generation: New spin off, Class apparently set a Coal Hill. (and Patrick Ness too, who we already like)
1 October 2015 at 12:23 #43888@bluesqueakpip @purofilion
Something’s Up With Clara
Perhaps she is just the humanoid equivalent of a tesseract.
(aside: she appeared on Gallifrey because that’s where One was….)
30 September 2015 at 19:07 #43853Excellent bonkerising.
Two small quibbles:
1. You misspelled “absolute steaming loonpants” as “Conspiracy theorists”;
2. Re: ” her love of humanity.” I would suggest it is the capacity for love that is the important bit, rather then the object – also, as you note, re the Pope, that tremendous willpower is a critical factor. We have seen Clara’s strength of will stretched a few times. It is almost as if she is being trained.
Also, around here there is a tendency to refer to the “real” Clara – Clara Prime – and the Claricles. I’m not at all sure that is a meaningful distinction. Moffat loves his closed loops and the thing with loops is they don’t really have an origin…
30 September 2015 at 15:17 #43849Wouldn’t argue with that at all – the major point is that her actions where not plot-serving stupidity, or anything remotely like it, but deeply rooted in character and what happens to them.
30 September 2015 at 10:39 #43839Yeah — but she *is* regarded by all as crazy, and there was all that “non-intervention” Prime Directive stuff back in the day, so I reckon the TLs are very aware of this temptation, on the whole. Missy? She *lives* for temptation!
Her sanity, or otherwise, isn’t really pertinent, is it? The Doctor self-describes as a madman in a box and when he first rocked up to 76 Totter’s Lane he wasn’t exactly mr nice guy (he was willing to stove in a cave man’s head). But exposure to humans mellowed him.
The power of the scene in the square was that Missy’s insanity (psychopathy/sociopathy, whatever) wasn’t the point – it was the gap in power between the whole of humanity (personified in Clara) and one Time Lord.
This is a species that was willing to bring the universe to ruin in its war with the Daleks and the scene in the square turned that idea (to put it in the bleak form of modern media narrative) from a story about a tidal wave of refugees to the story of a toddler with a name washed up on a beach. Clara saw the full power of the Time Lords not as a 3D artwork in the Under Gallery, but up close and personal – and felt tiny.
30 September 2015 at 02:33 #43816Sorry, was going to wander off until the next ep, but just saw this quoted by @ichabod :
the charge I level at Moffat. He’s taken a character with the potential for life-like depth and flexibility, for fallibility and humanity, and he’s reduced her to a plot pawn to perform a prescribed story function.
This is just about the most thoroughly and absurdly ridiculous comment that can be made about Moffat’s writing. Everything – everything – Moffat writes is about the exploration of character. From Press Gang, through Coupling to Sherlock and Who his stories are entirely character driven (his imagining of Watson in Sherlock is a masterclass made real by a fine actor who knows when to dial it down).
Once deconstructed his plots are invariably pretty simple – usually some form of closed loop built around a standard, US-style A-plot, B-plot and (if there’s room) C-plot for light relief. And sometimes they are a bit rushed, as is inevitable with modern TV production schedules when the budget is bust, or the bus has been wrecked on a dockside.
But his characters are rich, complex and when things happen to them they are changed. There are never magic “all better now” resets and even when you think there are, they will be confounded further down the road. Consider how long it took Rory to trust the Doctor – or how quickly Amy chose when faced with losing him. Consider how long the Doctor had to keep the dreadful secret from River, or his investigations from Ganger!Amy and Rory.
And when Clara – who has been utterly crushed by Missy and then continuously abused – is confronted by just about the worst fear she could imagine SHE PANICKED.
Because that is what a once-confident human (who, incidentally, has seen more trauma than most) who has lost all sense of control and had her self-worth crushed like a discarded fag butt, would do.
To suggest otherwise by dismissing Clara as a plot pawn is absurd.
And to cap it all off, this episode really delivered in spades the full and epic scale of the arrogance of the time lords in a way that would have been unacceptable coming from The Doctor. And again, that is about the character of a people who have mastery of time itself and to whom stopping a few thousand planes is flight is a mere parlour trick.
30 September 2015 at 01:55 #43814Toby Whithouse, writer of ‘School Reunion’, ‘Vampires of Venice’ and ‘A Town Called Mercy’
And also The God Complex. He likes to unsettle.
29 September 2015 at 15:46 #43780Dyslexia lures, KO?
29 September 2015 at 15:45 #43779LindaLee gets strait to the point 🙂
28 September 2015 at 17:58 #43712No, he set it up two or three script pages before.
That’s what they are supposed to do, courtesy of Chekhov’s ordnance supplies (and menagerie, for those who know their DWF history)).
I recognize the theory being circulated that Clara’s rather anomalous idiocy was the result of remembered trauma from a future self who ended up as a Dalek.
There was no idiocy. She had had her confidence utterly shattered by Missy. This has actually been explained a couple of times now. The horse is dead.
28 September 2015 at 15:54 #43704This Clara’s got Dalek nano-genes doing uncontrolled stuff in her brain, and Missy has just admitted that she has no idea what damage will be done getting her out. Implying, incidentally, that no one has survived to get out.
Which brings us back to the Doctor’s “I’m so sorry”.
We didn’t see her being removed from the Dalek, and nanogenes don’t seem to just wander off, unless reprogrammed.
27 September 2015 at 16:58 #43557When the Doctor came close to Clara while after the Dalek case opened, and took hold of her head his “I’m so sorry” was very reminiscent of Tennant talking to someone who was about to die.
27 September 2015 at 16:54 #43556BBC website have posted pics of the artwork, including
Heh – and clicking through reveals the his amp to be made by Magpie electricals.
27 September 2015 at 12:23 #43535Indeed – and to that uncertainty we should add Moffat’s at-a-stroke willingness to yank our collective chain!
27 September 2015 at 01:31 #43500Oh crap, yeah – you’re probably right. Bamboozled by the actor in question being mentioned up-thread.
26 September 2015 at 23:08 #43483I believe Game of Thrones is in its last season?
I doubt that very much. They are barely a third of the way through Arya’s arc (MW’s character) and there’s a whole load of shaggy dragon story to tell even before GRRM writes the next book.
If the shooting schedules don’t conflict it isn’t inconceivable fo rMW to board the Tardis full time, but I think it more likely that she will be recurring. (This of course pre-supposes that she isn’t a one-shot about whom we are being led a dance)
26 September 2015 at 22:52 #43482and the doctor and Clara just go on as always as if nothing has happened..
That is a huge assumption not supported by the text…
@all
On the subject of the Master/Missy’s daughter I have just a few words for you to consider: “What you kept you old man?”
22 September 2015 at 01:30 #43205Somebody’s telling porkies…. they’re for the chop.
22 September 2015 at 01:27 #43203We can relax.
LindaLee has spoken.
22 September 2015 at 01:23 #43202No comment:
(although Charlie Brooker must be feeling like a fucking god right now)
21 September 2015 at 01:31 #43089Missy’s rather cruel jibe to Clara about Danny: “still dead is he?”. Why put this in? Blenkinsop’s (probably wrong) prediction: He either isn’t, or even if he is, he will return in some capacity. Missy’s line was preparing us.
Pretty sure we would have heard casting spoilers if he was. She was just being cruel, in about the most personal way imaginable.
Moffat needs to tread a fine line between making Missy entertaining and not losing sight of the fact that she is thoroughly unpleasant in every way that matters. So lines like this are essential (when the massive din created by squeeing Spuffistas is ignored, Whedon did a pretty decent job of this with Spike – but it requires constant diligence)
Clara is NOT happy whatsoever with having to deal with Missy – but she has to go with it, for now, if she wants to get what shes wants
And Missy knows that – hence the snipers.
20 September 2015 at 11:39 #43038upon a second watch, i realized that the daleks knew exactly where/when the doctor was hanging out, because bors is one of their “puppets,” like the ones in ‘The Dalek Asylum.’ so, what reason do they have for keeping this knowledge of his location from davros
Apparently they did not know where he had stashed the Tardis.
20 September 2015 at 02:34 #43003They mention the Doctor is dying AGAIN.
I think that is a bit of linguistic jiggery-pokery to mask dark themes for the kiddies.
The Doctor has just (as far as we can tell) left a young boy to die and is shame-ridden. “Dying of shame” is not a new trope, redolent as it is with the shattering of illusions, the abandonment of hope and dissolution (“Never cruel nor cowardly”, eh?). He’s playing fast and loose with a Chieftain II in 12th C Essex, which is pretty much the Doctor equivalent of a bender. This Essex, apparently, had Las Vegas in it and he was only leaving one way.
I’m wondered in the past if Clara was Susan’s mother – although I doubt the Missy-is-mum thesis, it would be interesting and Moffat would have quietly slipped an origin story past us, without actually doing anything so dull as an origin story.
20 September 2015 at 01:04 #43000@juniperfish et all
She’s always been dalek fire-proof historically,
Somewhere since the reboot (possibly under Ecclestone, but not certain) it was spelt out that the Daleks know more about how to destroy Tardises than anyone bar the TimeLords themselves.
Indeed. And that process was kicked off by showing that Daleks are capable of fear (when confronted with one R Song)
19 September 2015 at 20:32 #42964I like the idea of maximum extermination. ‘Cos partial extermination is for wimps.
18 September 2015 at 22:17 #42860I agree, speaking for myself, but there are others who are actively avoiding all spoilers and regard even official trailers as such.
This is the one place they should feel safe.
18 September 2015 at 21:55 #42858Well, so much for spoilers.
16 September 2015 at 13:34 #42745Spoilerphobes be VERY wary of the Guardian front page today (16 Sept)
15 September 2015 at 00:45 #42682@purofilion
And she’s end stage cancer she truly is.
Now that’s what I call stretching a simile!
14 September 2015 at 21:43 #42673For UKers (and possibly BBC Americans in, not sure) if you haven’t caught up with the new version of An Inspector Calls do so. David Thewlis is excellent as the lead and it is a very good adaptation of a play that doggedly insists on staying relevant and timely (especially given what those cancerous polyps on the arsehole of Britain that we have masquerading as a government tried to do today).
’tis on iPlayer for another 27 days or so.
11 September 2015 at 11:05 #42513An alternative way to donate to Save The Children UK – courtesy of Crowded House.
11 September 2015 at 00:23 #42506@purofilion
The loss, I believe, is in the longing for something irretrievable.
The word in Welsh is hiraeth – usually interpreted as homesickness flavoured with grief for the lost or yearning for a lost home/ homeland). There’s a lot of that in the Doctor.
6 September 2015 at 16:16 #42406Closing in on £500,000 including Gift Aid.
5 September 2015 at 23:07 #42391Yes, proud.
As a direct consequence she later got to present to, and be taken up by, Barry Cunningham.
If you don’t know who Barry Cunningham is look up the history for the Harry Potter franchise.
So yes, very proud. As proud as she is grateful.
5 September 2015 at 02:00 #42376@craig Absolutely. No criticism of the writers at all. They have to writer what publishers will take.
4 September 2015 at 17:38 #42361As for the writing style — I don’t really like the word verbose — it was partly a symptom of the time he was writing in but also partly the point.
Well, up to a point. He was often paid by the word and, more than once, it shows. None of that detracts from his importance, but it should equally not be swept under the carpet.
4 September 2015 at 17:35 #42360one thing that always sends me reeling from writers groups is this tendency towards a common type of prose-everything has to be completely simple,
Writers’ groups can be prone to groupthink and when I chaired mine I as very careful ensure a counter view was always offered. But groupthink cuts both ways – it only takes one person to say “Oooh that was lovely and vivid” and the nodding along starts, so someone needs to get stuck in with “Do you have any plans to get on with the story at any point soonish?”. There are few things more tiresome than a writer in love with the sound of their own prose – except it is not the sound, because it is the act or reading out that often exposes the turgid.
I once managed to make a member cry simply by asking “But what it is about?” (meaning what’s the theme?). I’m dead proud of that.
If you wish to write at length you absolutely must first learn to write concisely. It’s called killing your babies.
And on the subject of writing, you should all go out and buy my friend Julie Mayhew’s new alt-history novel The Big Lie. She is, in my considered opinion, a bona fide genius. The novel, like her first, Red Ink, is alas shoe-horned into the cancerous, arbitrary and insulting “Young Adult” category (which should be taken out into the woods and beaten to death with a large log), but don’t let that put you off.
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