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  • #46492
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    I have a new bonkers theory, back in Before the Flood when the Doctor was talking to O’Donnell, while Bennett’s prawn sandwich is repeating on him, they talk about how she was demoted for dangling someone out a window in anger. This struck me as an odd thing to say, it could have been just a throw away comment, but what if O’Donnell was a Zygon and literally was demoted for dangling someone out a window? Before the Flood is set after The Zygon Invasion, so perhaps humans and Zygons work it out? Is Bonnie the War Minister?

     

    #46491
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    a quick thanks to @craig for posting the link to the scripts. I’m going to enjoy reading them, 🙂

    #45380
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    Hmm, I wonder why no one has been posting here.

    It seems as if the sonic sunnies are back, and I still think they are related to the Doctor seeing something beyond what we can normally see. The theme of storytelling has been around for a while and now we have Ashildr the storyteller, is Clara, the English teacher, a storyteller, too? I also wonder if Gallifrey is exactly where it should be, and it’s the Doctor and Clara who are in a different place.

    #45303
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    @jimthefish re the horned helmets and electric eels being deliberate. I thought so too, and also thought this may have been happening last season too.

    #45131
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    @blenkensopthebrave it would be interesting, I wonder if the bootstrap theory will continue to be a thing this season?

    #45041
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    I enjoyed this episode a lot, as I did the last one – I just never got round to posting about it. Very interesting conversations between the Doctor and Clara, (in both episodes) – the tension between them was rather taught at times. She’s still seems to be pushing him about something and he still seems to be wavering between yay and nay. I’m looking forward to a second watch.

    #45040
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    I wonder if The Woman Who Lived will have taken place before The Girl Who Died, in a timey-wimey way? The Doctor’s always saying humans are so linear in their thinking.

    #44330
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    @mudlark I didn’t think it was a coincidence either, which is why I brought it up in the first place. But …

    Yes, I know worm/wyrm is an alternate term for dragon. But, it would be interesting to hear what you have to say on the matter as I’m pretty sure that I’m right in saying that you know far more about it than I do.

     

    #44278
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    @craig I was aware of that. But, you’re right, it’s not going to be anything so obvious. 🙂

    #44277
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    @purofilion it could just be that they both, coincidentally, have spikey faces.

    #44274
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    @fatmaninabox it could be that the words refer to other celestial objects, so ‘dark’ could mean a nebula, black hole or a dark matter object and in that case they could be co-ordinates – in the area of the black hole and temple constellation – kind of thing.

    @mudlark yes, I think you are right in that it seems unlikely that the Doctor’s explanation is correct given the reasons you stated, but the Doctor would be aware of this too – for the same reasons. Which is why I suggested he may have actually given a hint to the real answer (it does also tie in with the snake/dragon/wyrm theme). The thing is, why does the Doctor offer the explanation of Orion’s Sword etc to Clara and the crew in the first place, for who’s benefit is it? Clara’s, perhaps? Why wouldn’t he want his companion with him? Might there be someone else there/listening?

    @phaseshift I hadn’t even thought of “Generations”, 1701-B, cool.

    So, if we’re going to do Star Trek references, there’s the two-parter “Time’s Arrow” (Next Generation), in which time-travelling aliens from Devidia II travel back to 19th century Earth and start killing humans for energy. The means by which they do this is a device that looks like a cane and is in the shape of a snake, it actually transforms into a snake at one point. Another timey-wimey link is Guinan convincing Picard to go with the crew because if he doesn’t there will be an impact on the future  – ‘usually’ the Captain wouldn’t go on an away mission. Snakes and time travel links.

    Of course, it may have nothing to do with the stars at all.

    There is another Next Generation episode, “Night Terrors”, in which the aliens are sending out a request for what they want. In their case hydrogen – ‘eyes in the dark, one moon circling’ –  as it is required to fuel their ship – the fuel canister is missing from the ship on the Drum, perhaps a link?

     

    #44191
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    @craig well, if you’re going to turn me into a Borg, I want some say on the upgrades thanks. 😀

    #44190
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    When we see the clip of the Doctor saying he has to die, he appears to be in the TARDIS, perhaps this is why we hear the Cloister Bell. I also thought that the Doctor has to be seen to be dead, perhaps by whatever/whoever is in the white box?

    It’s only brief, but I thought the face of the alien that says to the Doctor ‘there’s nothing you can do’ looks like the face of the creature in the mural.

    #44188
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    @craig  you posted that while I was typing up my previous post, lol

    #44187
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    Another great episode.

    A theme of people dying but turning out to not be seems to be developing, assuming the Doctor isn’t dead.

    I also thought the Doctor’s and Clara’s exchange about Danny was interesting, I’ve only seen this episode once so will need to make sure about this, but I did wonder if Clara’s tension was not simply her not being over her grief despite her saying so.

    @mudlark @ichabod I think you’re right about the ‘ghosts’ not really being ‘ghosts’, as you say Mudlark, the alien from Tivoli is the key.

    One thing I noticed was that the Doctor refers to Orion being viewed from the other side. From our perspective here on Earth, looking up at the night sky, on one side is Orion and opposite it is Ophiuchus – the serpent-bearer. The creature in the mural looks serpent-like and it is bearing 3 people. May be nothing though.

    #43963
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    @mudlark agreed, I think it was a metaphor Missy would have gotten as well.

    @juniperfish it seems he will continue to struggle till he finds Gallifrey, remember his reaction when he went to the co-ordinates Missy gave him and nothing was there. The TARDIS console got quite a beating – poor Sexy.

    @purofilion yes, back after the summer hols and looking forward to the rest of season 9. Ohh yes, I haven’t seen those two episodes in ages, but you’re right, he’s had this wearable tech for ages. Could be Zygons, but then he wasn’t wearing them in the 50th anniversary and it may have saved him some awkward moments if he had. lol

    #43934
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    Ok, so this is my takeaway from the two episodes.

    The Doctor’s method of escape that Missy also used to get her and Clara away from the Daleks may also explain how the Doctor knew she wasn’t dead. We see the Brigadier blast Missy and that may have been the energy source she used to escape and the Doctor realized what she’d done.

    Now, for some reason, he needs her help and sends her the CD to get her attention, which works. But, Missy can’t find him so she goes to Clara and when they find him, because he’s drawing attention to himself, Missy brings Clara along. @ichabod you were right, he was surprised, but if he sent Missy the CD, then he must have been expecting her, I think. So, maybe he wasn’t expecting to see Clara. Is Missy using the Doctor’s ‘pet’ as an insurance policy? I don’t know, but maybe.

    So, on Skaro Missy uses the energy from the Dalek blasts to escape and because Clara’s vortex manipulator is slaved to Missy’s, when the Daleks blast her she is also transported. The Doctor is aware of this and doesn’t want Clara to run as this will mean she will end up with Missy. Which is interesting as it suggests that the Doctor seems to view Missy as more dangerous, at least to Clara, than the Daleks. When the Doctor steals Davros’ chair and goes to the Dalek control room to make his speech about bringing Clara back safe and sound he hits a button on the chair that allows his demands to be heard all over Skaro, including the sewers where Missy and Clara are. I wonder if the Doctor’s demands are intended for Missy and not the Daleks. He seems to have suspected that Missy and Clara were still alive (why demand for her to be returned if he thinks she’s dead), but I think he is genuinely fearful for Clara’s life and wants her back unharmed. Missy, on hearing the Doctor’s demands, comments that this is the Doctor ‘without hope’ which causes Clara to look at her. She also says, ‘He’ll burn everything, us too’, which makes me think of the War Doctor burning Gallifrey.

    Another thing I noticed is that Missy seems genuinely shocked to see Skaro rebuilt. So either she didn’t know it had been, or wasn’t expecting it to have been.

    Also, the Doctor riding in on a tank is a nice reference to the Daleks.

    The CD has been opening since we first see the Doctor give to Ohila. But, when Davros has it, the Doctor is more interested in getting his glasses back. Two notable times where these have been used are in ‘The Girl Who Waited’ and ‘The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood’, in both stories they are being used to look at things that can’t be seen with normal vision. So, I wonder if they are for seeing things beyond the visual spectrum, phase shifted and/or time shifted. If so, why was he wearing them in Bors’ village and on Skaro? What could he be looking for? Ack, so many questions, lol.

    #43573
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    Another great episode, so much to think about. I’ve only done 1 viewing so don’t want to comment yet. The things that I noted on my 1st watch have already been brought up.

    @juniperfish I agree, it was really creepy to see Clara inside the Dalek. Took a while for the penny to drop with the Doctor that Clara was inside the Dalek.

    @phaseshift I like the idea of Maisie Williams’ character being Missy’s daughter, that does also perhaps mean that there is another Time Lord not on Gallifrey.

    Will go do my re-watch now.

    #43426
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    Ok, one last bonkers theory before tonight’s episode. We have a medieval arena and Colony Sarf comes in and throws down the sonic screwdriver – I thought of it as a kind of throwing down the gauntlet, a challenge to the Doctor. But, what if the Doctor saved boy Davros and now adult Davros, who is dying, wants to return the favour and help the Doctor. Which, perhaps, makes Missy the baddie. Yes, I know it’s more likely that it is Missy who is helping the Doctor, but I’ve been watching the show since the 70’s and can’t help but trust the Mixmaster as far as I can throw her, it’s instinct by now, lol.

    #43410
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    @lisa to be honest, I thought Moffat intended as a joke and that’s how I took it. 🙂

    @ichabod darn, I thought it was the Doctor who said it. Never mind, I still think there’s the possibility that there are two disks, or, as you say, Missy has tampered with it. I wonder how Ohila managed to get it to Missy? Maybe that’s just irrelevant, we just need to know it did get to her.

    @barnable it was me who suggested that. 🙂

    As to the general discussion about Danny and Clara, I’ve also wondered if there is more to the story than meets the eye. I found Danny interesting because we had Danny, Rupert and Orson. Why introduce them, what was their purpose in the story? There are the links with the Doctor – Rupert a scared child, Danny the Soldier and Orson the time-traveler that might suggest aspects of the Doctor and the link between them and the Doctor is Clara and the toy soldier. I think it was @ichabod, my apologies if not, who pointed out another link between the Doctor and Danny – we have the Doctor (possibly) saving boy Davros just as Danny saved the Afghani boy.

    @purofilion I like your suggestion that this Clara is a Claricle (I was never really convinced that the time-stream story was finished but for my own reasons). So, does this then mean that the Great Intelligence is also somewhere in the Doctor’s time-stream and not destroyed as Madam Vastra assumed?

     

    #43361
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    It’s great reading the different ideas people have come up with. It’s part of the fun of watching the new season.

    I agree with those who think the Doctor has a plan, or a plan in progress, which is more his style. In The Doctor’s Meditation, we see him spending his time with Bors not partying, but digging wells and building a visitor’s centre  – or, rather, getting the villagers to do it (loved how Bors explains that they don’t know what a sunroof is). He’s already seen boy Davros and is supposed to be meditating. I think he may have made the decision to go back and save Davros then (yes, I also think he will save Davros), and may have already done so before meeting adult Davros. The Doctor then creates anomalies in the timeline by introducing rock music, sunglasses, tanks and the word ‘dude’ to the locals in order to draw attention to where he is amongst all the ‘noise’ of the other anomalies so that he can be found. As soon as he is found Missy is pretty quick to move on the vortex manipulator and kidnaps Clara, essentially. The Doctor may have suspected she would do this, because he doesn’t seem surprised to see them there and together.

    My bonkers offering. There’s the Doctor’s cryptic question to Clara ‘Which one of us is dying?’, maybe it is Missy. I wonder if the CD Missy has is indeed the same one the Doctor gave to Ohila.

    A couple more things, that may be nothing. But if anybody has been derisive of the Doctor’s compassion it’s the Mixmaster, she has always seen it as his greatest weakness. Also, I forget, Clara got the Doctor’s number from a lady in a shop – was it a bookshop?

    #42966
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    Loved it, great starter to the season. Clearly, Clara and the Mixmaster have not been exterminated, but where are they? Is someone playing games with the Doctor’s mind here?

    @lisa well called, Davros.

    Off to watch it again.

    #40055
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    @gamergirlavatar I remember the bit about River being a child of the TARDIS, but I don’t remember that as being the reason why she can fly it. Must be time for me to have a re-watch.

    #39985
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    @jphamlore I remember Romana going through several options before choosing the face she ended up with, but, I watched this episode a long time ago so had to look it up on wiki. Apparently, she chose the face of Princess Astra. I’m not sure if any explanation has since been given for it, but from what I understand there is a third Romana in the novels and a fourth in the audios, but I don’t know if any explanation was given in either of those.

    #39983
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    River and Osgood, yay! @gamergirlavatar @fatmaninabox I agree about the sonic screwdriver. There’s also the Doctor who taught River how to fly the TARDIS, although this comment was made to the 11th Doctor, he was, apparently, busy that day.

    #39590
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    @bluesquekpip – I was pretty much well sold on Smith’s Doctor from the first episode of his tenure. He was certainly handed some great stories.

    @ichabod – I agree about Capaldi, he does come across as more intense and focused, perhaps this is why some people find him dark. I don’t myself, but I think that perhaps he’s more self-reflective, for example we have him in ‘Into the Dalek’ asking Clara if he’s a good man. That episode is interesting as we see the Doctor being compared to Rusty and Danny and then we have the Doctor literally entering Rusty, so we get the idea of him trying to work out if he’s a good man or not.

    #39575
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    @ichabod @jimthefish I also find Smith’s Doctor could be quite dark, and, I think, sad too. The Moment calls him ‘the one who forgets’, but I don’t think he forgets, I think he compartmentalizes. He hides behind the young face and almost slapstick-like behavior, which, I think, makes the times when mask falls stand out even more. I’m thinking here of ‘General Runaway’ in ‘A Good Man Goes to War’, I found his speech and delivery really intense.

    #39557
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    @purofilion it is a very interesting subject, not just semantics but also other areas within the field. When I studied it at uni, we didn’t really apply it to works of literature per se, it was more about the development and use of the language both in the past and also currently. I agree that Pertwee’s and Capaldi’s Doctor also differ in terms of how they express their emotions. It will be interesting to see of we get any Venusian aikido, lol.

    #39509
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    @purofilion I do find how language changes over time rather interesting, I did literature and linguistics at uni which helped to found this interest.

    the role of the companions these days is very different from the past, but I think the BG companions deserve credit. I agree that Capaldi’s Doctor is similar Pertwee’s, but I also think there’s a few of the other BG Doctor’s in him. I also see bits of Tom Baker’s Doctor and McCoy’s too.

    #39506
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    @Bluesquekpip @purofilion Ah, I understand what you’re saying. For me, I tend to think of it as a little old-fashioned, if someone told me I was plucky I’d probably find it amusing.

    I know that West Wing has won a number of awards, I might give it a try.

    #39477
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    @purofilion sorry if I offended you, I haven’t watched West Wing, so I’m afraid I can’t comment on it. I simply meant that I think Jo is able to hold her own with this Doctor. He may tell her to go and make the tea, and yes she does, but I think she deals well with what life as a companion to the Doctor brings her.

    Although I am a native speaker, I haven’t lived in a country in which English is the native language for some time, how did ‘pluck’ become offensive?

    #39469
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    @bluesqueakpip

    My maths really isn’t up to the Many Universes Interpretation, or indeed to amorphous masses of probabilities, but I’d quite like to know if there’s any observable evidence for any of them? Or are they in the same state of quantum indeterminacy as predestination? :-) 

    My maths isn’t either. However, scientists abhor a vacuum and a study was conducted in 2010 to see if data collected by WMAP could give evidence of the possibility that during the early stages of the development of our universe it had interacted – or ‘bumped’ – into other universes and therefore left some kind of detectable signature. None was found. Though this doesn’t necessarily mean the question has been forgotten.

     

    #39467
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    @purofilion yes, it is. It’s interesting that the new wave of feminism was happening at this time, but it still took time for things to filter through to popular culture, as is the way.

    Oh, ok, same Cassandra, different episode.

    @jimthefish I agree about Jo. Pertwee’s Doctor has such a strong personality that he can be quite a presence in a room (the clothes help, but don’t necessarily reflect his personality), but Jo has plenty pluck of her own.

    #39450
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    @purofilion this Doctor is acerbic and rude and arrogant, but I also like him. I think there is a touch of nostalgia there for me – I remember watching re-runs in the 70’s and last year I went to The Doctor Who Experience in Cardiff and saw ‘Bessy’ on display there.

    Jo has been criticized, many of the representations of women at this time on T.V. were, generally, not necessarily a model I would like to see followed now. But, I think she is brave and up to the challenge – if a tad too ‘rescued’ for my taste. I also remember an interview I saw with Carole Ann Ford (who played the Doctor’s granddaughter, as I’m sure you all know … sorry) where she says (ad-libbing here) that she had to scream and run away from the ‘baddies’, whilst the modern versions of the companion get to run towards the scary danger. I did like her reprisal of her role in ‘The Sarah Jane Adventures’ (not all episodes of which I have watched … sorry, it’s on the list).

    Another Osgood, whom I also like (still missing the other one), and ‘reverse the polarity’, which, as far as I can recall, hasn’t let us down thus far (please let me know if I’m wrong.)

    @purofilion  do you mean Rose in the second episode with Doctor 9 and Cassandra  ‘The End of the World’ ? (If not, sorry)

     

    #39402
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    @craig Many happy returns, I hope it was celebrated in style. Thanks for the reply.

    #39400
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    @craig sorry to bother you again, but are we still doing the retrospective of Doctor Who?

    #38708
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    @bluesqueakpip that could be the case, I’m just throwing ideas into the mix. 🙂

    #38698
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    @schamster @lisa

    Your posts got me thinking. I was wondering if, perhaps, CapDoc had known where Gallifrey was hidden at the end of tDotD, he may have even been the one who hid it. Missy was showing off by saying the co-ordinates to show that she knew where it had been. (The Master had been sent back into the timelock with Rassilion in tEoT.) The Doctor goes to check if it’s still there and it no longer is and that’s why we see him reacting the way he did – I thought his reaction was very intense. It could just be that his reaction is how this Doctor is, but I was surprised to see him take it out on the TARDIS by smashing the console, especially after tDW (a favourite episode of mine).

    But then that does raise the question of why the Doctor acts as if he doesn’t know where it is? To keep it safe, temporary amnesia, Dream Crabs?

    #38593
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    @craig -I have now since watched it on Daily Motion, other than the link you provided. Thank you for looking into it.

    #38585
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    @craig – I’m not sure if it’s the link you’ve posted or if the problem is at my end, but there are some issues. It’s either a green block, sound but no images, or you get sent somewhere else and a new window opens.

    #38582
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    @scaryb – I assume you are talking about ‘Last Xmas’. I was pleasantly surprised to see Danny. It was unexpected for me, but I thought it was a better resolution for him. I had thought that if anything, we would see Rupert and/or Orson on DW at some point this coming season. I still find it curious that there are/were three versions of him out there, it’s one’s of those ‘bee in one’s bonnet’ things for me, lol.

    #38422
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    Yay, congratulations to Samuel Anderson!

    Hmm, Rupert and Orson, such a big set up, if they are not important, why even put them there.

    #38339
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    @thekrynoidman – it’s very sad news. I’m a big fan of Star Trek, so to know we have lost one of the original cast members who was seminal to the creation of the franchise – and, obviously, the Vulcans – is such a loss.

    #37379
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    @phaseshift – thanks for the link. I will have a look.

     

    #37327
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    I like this episode just for what it’s about – the first stirrings of the TARDIS’ sentience. There have been other sentient spaceships in science fiction more recently, whether they be bioships as in Moya from Farcape, or Gumptu in ST:TNG, or AI as in the ship in Andromeda. But I was wondering if this was the first time a sentient ship had been seen on T.V. I know that it had been done in literature before, but when I checked online I couldn’t find anything before this episode. Does anybody know if this is the case for sure?

    #36974
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    I typed a post and then somehow managed to delete it … I hate it when that happens.

    A belated Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all.

    Another good episode, real hide behind the sofa stuff. I was peeking at the screen through my fingers when Shona was dancing through the infirmary, so was relieved to see the Doctor and Clara. Only downside – Santa’s name wasn’t Geoff.

    I was surprised, happily so, to see Danny. But given the dream within a dream within a dream storyline and the scary prospect of having to live with the knowledge there is a dream crab on your face, it isn’t surprising that Clara created a dream where all was perfect and safe. I agree with the others who have said this was a way for her to better deal with Danny’s death and I also think that it could mean she’s no longer stuck between her 2 world’s – the safe one with Danny and the ‘crazy’ one with the mad man in a box. Also agree that Clara’s ‘dad’ at the door is her ‘space dad’. I’m still wondering about Rupert and Orson though.

    I also wondered if the tangerine on Clara’s window sill at the end meant that the dream wasn’t over and also when it began – earlier in the season? I can also see that it would be a nod to the kids that watch the show – yes, there is a Santa Claus. I’m going to be a bit bah humbug about it though and offer a third option. Just because the Doctor doesn’t like tangerines doesn’t mean Clara feels the same way, she could have put it on the sill herself as part of her Xmas decoration.

    I wondered if the ‘scientists’ at the North Pole had, in some way, been aware of the dream crabs. I know they weren’t aware until the end that the people in the infirmary were them, but the fact that the dream crabs had been manifested in the dream suggests to me an awareness at some level. Maybe because they were all dealing with adversity on some level and this made them more sensitive to the presence of the dream crabs.

    Like others here, I also noticed a link between Santa and the Doctor. But I’m not sure if it’s the Doctor’s contribution to the dream or Clara’s. Clara tells Santa that she doesn’t believe in fairytales, Santa is skeptical and then the Doctor appears. Later, the Doctor twice asks her if she believes in fairytales she says she does, as if her faith in the Doctor has been restored. Also, the Doctor asks Santa how he gets everything in the sleigh and Santa replies that it’s bigger on the inside – something, I feel, Clara would be cheeky enough to say if she were teasing the Doctor.

     

    #36886
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    Russell T Davies and Sherlock Holmes?

    #36318
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    I got 11, which makes me very happy. Thanks for the link @jimthefish, I have passed it on to some of my Who friends.

    @blenkinsopthebrave – personally, I would love to see both/either River and/or Jack back, preferably both.

    #35722
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    @arbutus – weird, I was thinking along similar lines about how the War Doctor links 9, 10 and 11, which then leads us to 12.

    9 – post-war – the tough northerner in minimalist attire – gone are flamboyant scarves, jackets, vests, bits of celery, in place is a black leather jacket and a crew cut. He’s dispensed with the unnecessary. I also found him more openly cynical. This isn’t the same Doctor we knew from before. He’s destroyed his own people and he’s covered how he feels with a tough exterior.  But he is also be the one who finds a resolution in which everybody lives – he’s still our Doctor. I agree that he starts to soften with Rose.

    10 – he’s starting to come to terms with what has happened. He can’t change what he’s done to Gallifrey, but he can do what he can to protect Earth and, by gosh, he’s going to do it ‘This planet IS protected!’, but then, he’s long had a soft spot for us. He falls in love, more than once. Ok, one time he had forgotten he was the Doctor, but perhaps that was the point – he no longer was the Doctor (in a sense), so he had forgotten all that had happened and could be open for love. But you also see the cracks in the tough exterior starting to appear in other ways. This is something Donna points out to him, he needs someone keep him in check. We saw the consequences of him being alone in ‘The Waters of Mars’. However, a touch of whimsy came back with this Doctor’s outfit – sandshoes and a suit, big coat, no more crew cut.

    11 – an old man in a young body. There’s always an underlying sadness and guilt to this Doctor, I think. It’s something he hides by being flamboyant with his gestures and by thinking out loud, but you see it at times. Especially when one of his friends is angry with him, like when Rory is angry with him over Amy – he accuses the Doctor of making people want to impress him and this puts them in danger, or Amelia Pond – the girl who waited, once as a child and later in the episode ‘The Girl Who Waited’. I hadn’t thought about him building a new family, but I totally agree. Which makes the pain he feels when they are angry with him even sadder for me. He wants to be the ‘good guy’ again (in his own head and to the universe). I think the Christmas specials ‘A Christmas Carol’ and ‘The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe’, show this side, they’re more whimsical and he gets to bring a bit of Christmas joy to people’s lives. He needs River in his life, someone who loves him unconditionally, but is also willing to tell him a few home truths. It is this Doctor who realizes he has become too big, so he starts erasing himself from history. Then there’s 300 years (?) on Trenzalore, that’s a lot of time to think.  In ‘The Day of the Doctor’ he gets the opportunity to bring about a different ending to before – Gallifrey is still out there somewhere. As I seem to have decided what the Doctor wears is a reflection of the regeneration, I will say that this Doctor, by trying on different hats – fez, Stetson, – is him still trying to find himself.

    12 – he reminds me of earlier Doctors – pre-war. Perhaps this Doctor has reconciled with himself, and, whilst not being the same man as before (how could he be?), has accepted himself more? I’m hesitant here because, really, this Doctor’s story is still unfolding, so I think it’s still open as to who he will become. But, he’s still not sure if he is a good man. I have nothing to offer you on clothing for this Doctor this time, sorry, no idea as to why he changes clothes from a rather dashing coat to the thing with blobs on it.

     

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    <h2>@janetteB and @badwulf – for me, the companions are just as much a part of the story as the Doctor. I agree that there is no correct template for a companion, and I think this can be applied to the Doctor also, as he has never quite been the same person, while still recognizably the Doctor.  @ janetteB – you probably haven’t heard of Redcliffe as a suburb of Brisbane because it’s a city in it’s own right.</h2>
    @ Apopheniac – I’ve not heard of the town you mention, but I no longer live in Australia. It’s great to be on a site where people from so many different places are welcome.

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