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  • #52490

    So I treated myself to this. Almost entirely for sentimental reasons, but as soon as I started watching I remembered exactly why the house I shared at the back end of the 80s/ early 90s, full of graduate students and those making there way into the graduate job market, got up religiously on a Sunday morning to watch it.

    Just sublime and it is totally obvious why they had to nail down the music licensing before doing it (it was made in pre-DVD times so nobody thought to do it at the outset). The thought and skill with which the music of the late 60s is deployed is outstanding. Faking it would never have worked.

    If you have some spare cash, treat yourself.

    Really weird and delightful to think that Danica McKellar is 41 now, and a brilliant mathematician with part of a proof name after her.

    #52481

    @missy

    See #52453 and #52454

    Gratuitous pops at a quip and handwaving away somebody’s educated and knowledgeable posts.

    Sometimes, when you are on the wrong side of history, that graceful thing to do is to think: “You know what, a whole bunch of people who have dedicated decades of their lives to protecting life and human dignity might just have a point, and my anecdote is not the singular of their evidence.”

    #52461

    @nerys

    Oooooh! Broadchurch. A dangerous word around here 😉 .

    #52460

    @missy

    Try not to be a twit.

    #52438

    @miapatrick

    I think it takes inspiration from a comic, but does not follow it as slavishly as Walking Dead did at the start

    @puroandson

    I’m not that far in, so I guess it’s a taste thing. I just like the idea of an expert who is fascinated, rather than terrified and there a lot of in-jokes for the attentive.

    #52421

    @craig @ichabod (and @puroandson since you like to be in the loop :))

    Have finally got round to checking out iZombie and discovered to my joy that it comes from the same stable as the sublime Veronica Mars. A very fresh and witty take on a genre that is getting a bit tired. A sort of Veronica Mars meets Shaun of the Dead meets Wonderfalls (the intervention scene in the pilot is exquisitely judged). And, much like VM very well cast.

    Also, zombie fans might enjoy Z Nation (which had passed me by). It’s like a not-quite-so-far-up-its-arse version of Walking Dead.

    #52353

    @arbutus @puroandson

    I think the smoking at home thing might be something to do with 70 years of accumulated evidence that, not only does smoking kill you, but your exhaled smoke kills others. Including your kids.

    Historical scientific irony: the link between smoking and cancer was first identified by scientists working in Nazi Germany. Perfectly legit, ethically sound research. But it was ignored for years because of the guilt-by-association.

    When, at the back end of the 40s, the UK government started looking for an explanation for the rise in cancer deaths, their working hypothesis was that it was due to the increase in vehicular traffic. They were completely surprised by the link to tobacco.

    Choices nearly always have externalities. Privacy advocates like to ignore that.

     

    #52337

    @stitchintime

    AICM£5

    “And I Claim My £5”

    John Major – former British prime minister who was a bit prone to absurdly romantic imagines of earlier times, usually involving redoubtable district nurses cycling down misty country lanes.

    #52334

    @puroandson

    BTW, the term “politically correct” has been knocking around for decades, along with may variants, in leftie/ liberal circles as a way of mocking communists and other Soviet/ Mao apologists (the preferred variant when I was at LSE was “ideologically sound”). It was always mockery and often at our own expense if we caught ourselves being too serious.

    It’s modern connotation was a creation of an article in (iirc) New Republic in the dog end of the Reagan years, later spun up to a book and was never intended to be gentle, but to claim the exclusive right to call black people ‘niggers’ back from black people themselves (among many other obnxiousnesses).

    As we now know, during the 1960s and the 1970s there were no hippies and counter-culture types facing down heavily armed police, and certainly it was never more than in a gentle “let me stick a flower in your gun, officer” way. Similarly, in the later 1970s and 80s punks were just rackish fashionistas dressing on the cheap and never disrespected authority. And of course, there were no riots in 1980s London when an arrogant and ideological government tried to impose a poll tax. And, of course, nobody ever took advantage of live broadcasts to publicise their feminist/ gay rights/ anti-war/ anti-corruption. Ever.

    @arbutus

    That some children have the street smarts combat their parents is hardly new. Nor are busybodies, alas. What are social services expected to do? They get no thanks when things work and excoriated when they make mistakes leading to harm to children. And they are paid shit.

    #52329

    @missy

     

    You are John Major AICM£5.

    #52315

    @missy

    I didn’t say ‘beat’ I said ‘slap’

    A distinction without a difference.

    . I should be interexted to hear what you would do with a child who screamed and screamed in the supermarket

    Bringing up kids is hard. Who knew?

     diffeent countries complain

    There are 17th Century Rotterdam harbourmaster logs bemoaning the imminent arrival of English ships and the certain trouble that will follow that night in town. Partly that is to do with our hugely unhealthy, deep-seated,  relationship with alcohol. But that we took so long to let go of child abuse as a default method of punishment has pretty much the same roots, suggesting a much more inherent issue for a nation built on warlordism.

    It is about eduction and it is hard and takes years: within my lifetime it was socially acceptable for me to smoke at my desk, and to (though I never did) drink the night away and then drive home; to use all kinds of disgusting racial, sexual and discriminatory language (some of which I did, before I learned better).

    Things change, and as the full extent of child abuse in churches and other respected institutions is slowly exposed, that ‘slap’ looks more like a short cut to a quiet life and a perpetuation of a cycle.

    And, to a significant degree, we owe a lot of that change to Being Respectful (to uses its proper name, rather then the sneer invented by a conservative magazine).

    #52304

    @missy @puroandson

    No country in Europe – and indeed anywhere else in the civilised world – permits the beating of children as discipline.

    It is notable that the people of the UK – the last nation to give up this perversion – are the people with the worst (and fully justified) reputation for misbehaviour when traveling abroad.

    It is almost as if other nations have found a better way to encourage respectful behaviour other than child abuse.

    #52298

    @rycbarm

    if you look around the BBC Doctor Who site I am pretty sure there are some there.

    #52295

    “Political correctness”: a term invented by the obnoxious to belittle the courteous.

    #52235

    @ichabod @puroandson

    The problem with the stereotypical British sang froid (which, remember, literally means cold blood) and aloofness is that it evaporates in the face of real danger, where people for whom danger is a daily fact of life save blue blooded bacon.

    As with many an entitled berk finds, it ain’t quite so easy when the target shoots back.

    (BTW, in fiction – and genre fiction especially – shippers and slashers bear a lot of responsibility for hyper-sexualisation. Twilight <spit> wouldn’t exist without Buffy shipper fic. Marketeers will feed the beast, so long as it pays.)

    #52145

    @puroandson

    Yep, those last 4 or 5 episodes really showed what you could do to manage viewer expectations – and then confound them.

    #52089

    @missy

    Obsessively (to the point of psychiatric disorder) longing for two given characters to get it on, and a cancer on reasonable discussion in a story that is not primarily a romance. From “relationship.”

    At least one fan board I know banned it with extreme prejudice.

    #52069

    @theconsultingdoctor

    Oh God. Not shipping.

    Just. No.

    #52039

    @cedarbranchtardis

    **Whistles innocently**

    #52033

    @craig

    Random thought: is it possible to set up a under class that doesn’t get full privileges (including PM), until say, they have made 15 posts?

    SFFChronilces has something like that, whereby you can’t post links until you’ve made 15 posts.

    #52014

    @kbranagh

    1). It is 4bn years from the Doctor’s PoV – but Gallifrey is hiding at the end of time, so clearly they had choice of when they went after escaping whatever they escaped from; from their PoV an unknown amount of time has passed;

    2). The Time Lord’s as clearly stated by Rassillon before trying to execute the Doc.

    3). See 1.

    maybe i wanted a little more Gallifrey stuff

    It was all Gallifrey stuff in the first half!

    Note also that you got a massive amount of backstory and insight into Gallifreyan society with 4 simple words: “They’ll kill you”.

    #52006

    @puroandson

    The Poke is wonderful. There are some many ’round up of funny stuff’ sites, but The Poke consistently gets the tone right.

    “Do not breath under water.”

    #52005

    Thanks @winston – but it is worth spelling out: it was not an accident. It was unlawful killing (the jury verdict).

    #52004

    @whisht

    I would have thought most of the key character traits would decided before actors try out. The name is often a reflection of those traits (either directly or ironically). My guess is that Bill will not be a “girly” girl.

    #51983

    @arbutus

    I have friends in Boston, so am legally obliged to be a Red Sox fan, and have a passing interest in the Celtics. But the Bruins had all but passed me by until the won the Stanley Cup.

    I read about the trouble in Vancouver afterwards and gently ribbed a few Canuck chums. By God did they not like the comparison with football, but I’ve seen hooliganism and I know what it looks like.

    And yes, CTE is finally being recognised as a major problem.

    #51980

    @puroandson – and anyone else interested.

    As promised, Vague Ramble: Hillsborough: truth, class and lies.

     

    #51967

    @craig

    I wonder if there’s an IP pattern. Might it be worth blocking Ukraine (or wherever) for a bit?

    @puroandson

    Taylor used the POW imagery a fair bit in the report and the quote is from when he presented it. He had seen right through the lies of the police (hardly a surprise – he may have been a High Court Judge, but he was also a season ticket holder at Newcastle United and knew the score). There was a culture of hatred towards football fans (partly self-inflicted, to be sure) that gets right to the roots of the British class system. I’ll probably get to this in a vague ramble soon.

    King Kong the Rapist

    I think you mean Fisty McRapesalot (Have you watched Veronica Mars yet?)

    #51951

    @arbutus @puroandson

    But are you against caged people?

    “If you treat people like prisoners of war, you should not be surprised if they act like them” – Lord Justice Taylor, on the release of the original Hillsborough Inquiry, 1990.

     

    #51950

    @craig

    And again… Oh joy.

    #51942

    @puroandson

    Don’t know it is is region-locked, but today’s front pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-36147007

    #51941

    @puroandson

    Hillsborough – 96 Liverpool fans dead after catastrophic overcrowding on terraces. 15-4-89

    Nutshell: due to an accident on the motorway delaying a lot of fans, and appalling police planning, the woefully inadequate turnstiles at Hillsborough (a neutral ground for the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest) were overwhelmed, causing a 5,000 person crush outside the ground, through sheer weight of numbers (not misbehaviour).

    As kick-off approached an officer outside first asked for kick-off to be delayed, and when this was refused, fearing that people would be killed requested that an exit gate – Gate C – be opened to let the fans in about 8 mins before kick-off. Around 2,000 came in at a steady walk (as in unavoidable in such situations) and, quite reasonably, headed down 1-in-6 the tunnel towards the pitch side terraces. But the pens at the end of that tunnel were already overcrowded. In the same fixture in 1988 (with the same teams, by coincidence) access to this tunnel was blocked to push fans to the side entrances and the nearly empty pens there.

    The match kicked off at 3.00pm. At 3:02pm, Liverpool hit the crossbar and the crowd surged forward – probably killing many people at that point and also sucking more into the crush. Fences around the pitch prevented escape onto the pitch. By about 3:04pm it was obvious to all except one person that a disaster was unfolding and at 3:06pm the match was stopped.

    At 3:15pm, that one person, Match Commander David Duckenfield told Graham Kelly, chairman of the Football Association, that fans had forced open that gate. In fact it was opened on his order.

    That is when the cover up started. At that time, probably about 40-50 of the fatalities could have been saved, but the response from police and emergency services was slow and uncoordinated and for too long predicted on the assumption that is was a public order problem, rather than a public safety disaster.

    Over the next few days police started filtering lies about supporters assaulting police, robbing casualties, and urinating on the dead (many of the dead had, of course, involuntarily evacuated).

    On 19-4-89 the Sun published the front page shown upthread. Other papers ran the story but all presented as “police claims” not “The Truth”. Only Murdoch’s The Sun did that.

    26 years later, at the second inquest, Duckenfield finally apologised for the lie he told and his incompetence on the day.

    This second inquest, in turn, was prompted by the findings of the 2012 Hillsborough Independent Panel, which identified that that at least 164 police statements had been tampered with to remove criticism of police conduct.

    It was described as the biggest cover up in the history of UK policing.

    Sports journalist David Conn has done a magnificent summary in the Guardian.

    Yesterday the second inquest, after two year hearings, returned a verdict of Unlawful Killing, the original inquest’s verdict of Accidental Death having been quashed.

    This morning Rupert Murdoch’s The Sun did not put the story on its front page, preferring some celebs sex life. Nor did The Times in its first edition. Every other paper led with it.

    #51935

    @arbutus

    Some years ago a friend took me to a concert of early works of Thomas Tallis, about whom I was wholly ignorant.  It was fascinating – you could, essentially, hear modern music being invented.

    #51876

    @xad4

    No, in my case (Cons aren’t really my thing) – don’t know in cuz’s case, but I don’t think so.

    #51866

    @whisht @puroandson

    Also, you can tell the esteem musicians are held in by the one’s who play their songs in tribute.

    #51837

    @whisht

    hahahahahahahahaha.

    Of course Earl’s A Winger was better.

    #51836

    Hmm.

    So they have to get back to the future in 2017.

    Big hair, Selecter-esque two-tone top and a vintage looking “Wow” badge (indeed, vaguely young-Pauline-Black vibe).

    I wonder if she is a 70s girl.

    #51809

    @whisht @puroandson

    Back to Prince, this is both entertaining, informative and historical (it is marked as public so should play).

    https://www.facebook.com/FarrelltronGraphics/videos/1036358926388042/

    Re Petty – check out Damn The Torpedoes. Refugee is a great song.

    #51805

    @whisht

    Apprently Olivia originally only wanted people who knew George. But Prince asked to take part because he wanted to perform with Tom Petty (because he loved Free Fallin’).

    Hmmm. Tom Petty. While it would be wrong to say he is underrated (because he is held in high esteem by anyone who matters), he is probably not as generally appreciated as he ought to be.

    #51775

    Wait for a couple of minutes in…

    #51759

    So apparently the new companion will be revealed at half time during the Man U v Everton FA Cap match on Saturday.

    Hope it’s not Wayne Rooney.

    #51746

    Ah fuck it. Another great gone. If this, below, was all she had ever done, then Victoria Wood’s career would have been worth it. But she was so, so, much more.

    #51734

    @puroandson

    For clarity, A Canterbury Tale is the rich meat, although I’m fairly sure you would love it (Churchill hated it). A Matter of Life And Death is simply sublime, with every shot a work of pure invention.

    Walkabout – Nick Roeg (dir) and Jenny Agutter (being Jenny). The juxtaposition of the words “Jenny”  and “Agutter” should set any right-thinking lad’s pulse racing.

    On the subject of the Blessed Jenny, anyone serious about understanding film should also watch The Railway Children, to understand how the perfect children’s movie is put together (the 1970 one, not the later remake).

    Oh, and Blade Runner. Of course it was depressing. It was a dystopia. And Deckard was a replicant. “It’s too bad she won’t live; but then again, who does?”

    Oooh, ooh. If you can find it, an early George Lucas (pre-Star Wars): THX 1138. The way that ends is just …. to even hint would spoil it. He really can tell a story when he’s not being a dick.

    And an equally early Steven Spielberg: The Duel.

    (Squeeze is, indeed, an important one to add to the music. I think, along with Legend for Marley a collection (The 45s) might be in order.)

    #51731

    @puroandson

    Totally forget, for films: A Matter of Life And Death – a reasonable case for the finest British film ever (almost any Powell & Pressburger – A Canterbury Tale for when Spawn is much more grown up: it is rich meat!)

    And The Big Country is very good (as were the band of the same name, for a bit of Celtic rock)

    Come to think of it, specifically British films, in addition to Local Hero: Kes; Gregory’s Girl; Made in Dagenham;

    Oooh, and since he’s 14 going on 15 he should see Walkabout. He can thank me later.

    And back to music, very obscure but K’s Choice’s Paradise in Me  – does not include Virgin State of Mind, which was in Buffy, but does include the utterly brilliant Not An Addict, acoustic version below:

    #51716

    @puroandson

    Well, at least we know who the celebrity threesome is 🙂 …

    #51715

    @blenkinsopthebrave

    **Clicks “Like”.**

    #51714

    @puroandson

    Hmmm. Big question.

    No music collection is complete without a bit of Springsteen (either Darkness at the Edge of Town or The River, depending on your penchant for suicide music 😉 – Point Blank may be the most unrelenting angrily bleak song ever). But if you want to be really hardcore, go Nebraska.

    For a one-off, Jeff Buckley’s Grace is peerless and really shows the talent that was lost when he died (also the definitive version of Hallelujah).

    Lest he ever stray into the belief that Adele can sing the blues, then either Frank or Back to Black by Amy Winehouse will provide the necessary corrective.

    Oh, and Carmina Burana (André Previn/ London Symphony Orchestra version).

    Am assuming Led Zep IV, Peter Gabriel 3 are a given.

    And I chuck in Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures.

    I’d argue that collections need to be permitted for Ella Fitzgerald (Gold) and Nina Simone (The Essential Collection).

    Now. Film

    Field of Dreams: timeless and really not even slightly about baseball (no knowledge of it required);

    Silent Running: 2001’s quieter and more intelligent cousin;

    The Dish (which you really ought to have seen, but brilliantly captures the wonder of the moon missions);

    Local Hero. Just lovely;

    The Maltese Falcon/ The Big Sleep. Humph, Sam Spade and Philip Marlow. ’nuff sed;

    Gold Diggers of 1933 (just to see if he spots what it is really about) Gold Diggers of 1935 and 42nd Street are technically superior, but ’33 is the invention of an entire genre);

    The Outlaw Josey Wales – by a mile Eastwood’s finest achievement.

    A Fistfull of Dollars/ For a Few Dollars More/ The Good The Bad and the Ugly. All three.

    All The President’s Men (great cast and excellent look at journalism, but also very much of its era) – and then see Spotlight too!

    And, yes. The Godfather (but especially The Godfather II).

    Not film, but TV: Edge of Darkness (BBC 1985-ish). Bob Peck, pre-fame Joanne Whalley. One of TV’s finest achievements.

    That’ll do for now.

     

    #51680

    @xad4

    Nice! The live cam currently shows a snoozing osprey, which is quite the sweetest thing I’ve seen for ages. Glesni is looking very…eggy.

    It occurs to me that I only live an hour or so from the Rutland project (which is where all the Welsh birds originate). Must get that longer lens…

    #51660

    @kbranagh

    Don’t fish, wait. You really don’t want it ruined.

    #51651

    @arbutus

    Pleasure to be of service!

    #51649

    @craig @jimthefish

    If it is a spoiler for Hell Bent it should not be here. Especially when we know somebody is watching through for the first time.

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