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  • #67659
    syzygy @replies

    I remember many eons ago putting on Calamity Jane – we had a drum-kit & 2 keyboards only & a fantastic young Maori lass as Calamity.  “Calamity’s word is sacred!”

    #67658
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    @pedant  @craig

    Absolutely phenomenal, wasn’t she?

    Two nights ago we were watching a Doris Day movie (hadn’t done this in AGES) and when we awoke the next morning, found out she’d died.

    A genuine talent to be missed.

    #67654
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    @craig

    Absolutely. You did a wonderful thing. A necessary thing. I think @whisht‘s idea of speaking with the Samaritans yourself -if you feel you may need to – is top advice.

    Also, what @pedant said -it’s rarely capricious.

    It must have been difficult to do & you could’ve looked the other way. You turned towards them, Craig.

    Puro and Thane.

    #67610
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    @mudlark yes, weedy, here. In my garden. 🙂  It’s like “muh-fashnik”

    I like weeds, actually -grassy weeds, though.

    I have a gardenia which, foolishly I added Dynamic Lifter to. The woman at the so-called nursery said “oh, ah” & it explains bright yellow spots a week later. I know it will die. I just know it. An arborist planted one next door assuring my neighbour with snotty-ness “it will LIVE.”

    It died.

    Muh-fashnick.

    #67601
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    @mudlark looking at what you recommended, and then checking the one local nursery still hanging on by its roots, we don’t appear to have it -or rather, they don’t. I’ll have another look around, though, thank you.

    Also, the small ‘violets’ -for want of a better description are easy to grow, even here, strangle everything if not snipped back (I use nail scissors) & flourish in our winters.

    I have plenty of that. I’m wondering if the violets are strangling the vincas (a pretty standard annual of a cheap variety & the original name has completely left me -I’ll meditate on that -failing this a link or photo should come your way but now I have clinic which means very bad TV with talking heads about our upcoming election. Blech).

    Puro

    #67600
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    @mudlark

    That was silly of me wasn’t it! “Oh yeah, terrific photos.”  So, Puro LOOK at it before commenting on the vinca!

    My response: “euw.”

    they look kinda weedy?  So, I’ve learned all about botany today & appreciate it mudlark. Thank you.  I’m attempting to grow more bougainvillea @janetteb & definitely, rosemary thrives in the dry doesn’t it?  But it does need some water.

    Our water bill is waaay higher than the local average 🙂

    Puro

    #67595
    syzygy @replies

    @winston indeed the pix! @pedant is a brilliant photographer & if I’m miserable about not going further afield -beyond my fence, in other words -I look at the photographs. It’s real mastery of the craft.

    Thane & Puro

    #67594
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    @janetteb @mudlark @winston

    Did someone mention “vinca”  ??

    Part of my gardening work (motive: helps with pain relief; as the garden sits VERY close to the footpath & we have a large tuckeroo,  judiciously taken care of, – but presenting a tendency to naughtiness: it doesn’t like to share the water) was to double dig & work on my soils For those who didn’t know this, Mudlark Manor demonstrated all sorts of gardening tips & horticultural ideas which I’ve implemented. They’ve had a tremendous impact on my little cottage garden. Many drinks from the multiverse of The OA (cue @pedant who administered this fantastic series into our lives) are owed to Mudlark.

    One of the plants I purchased in early March were vincas. I hadn’t seen them before but assumed this was all ‘new’ stock at Bunnings. For those who don’t know this gardening/outdoor/hardware store, Bunnings bought up many traditional hardware shops, whilst others continued on, sadly, for many years & eventually had to close as the competition was impossible to beat: “Bunnings has it all. Don’t go anywhere else.”

    Even small nurseries, passed down from great-grandads, toppled. So.….at Bunnings you’ve people who know little about horticulture, potting mixes, alkalinity etc. For any decent knowledge I pulled out my late father’s gardening books &, as one often does,  consulted Mudlark.

    I had several vinca punnets (with 6 inch seedlings) planted under the tree & whilst other perennials flourished & end of stock annuals continued to flower, only 7 of the original  24  seedlings/individual plants survived.

    Naturally,  my first thought was “the dreaded possums” so I used  hefty doses of chilli powder near the sweeter plants these possum devils like to barricade whilst cheering along their buddies in shrill & rousing chorus of revolutionary songs about Jean Valjean. They are to be guillotined if the chilli powder has gotten around their defences (seriously though, I can’t even kill our fat, silver & green caterpillars which turn into lawn grubs & decimate an entire lawn in under eight weeks).

    Anywaaaay, none of the sweeter plants have shrivelled or escaped over mountains sound-of-music style. Just vincas. I’m getting obsessed with keeping the remaining ones alive. I just KNOW the happy, dog walkers who chirp: “oh, you have such a beautiful garden” whilst muttering on another day (when they think I can’t hear them) “yez, she has SO much time on her hands, huh, heh, heh heh.”  Others have long, fruitful discussions with me, saying “LOVE the lavender….erm, is it?” I say, patiently, “Nope, that would be rosemary” And later, “this, what is this here?”

    I sigh, “that would be soil, mate, just regular dirt.” *

    More sighing.

    So. How do we solve a problem like a vinca?

    Puro

    #67477
    syzygy @replies

    that’s @idiotsavon above.

    #67476
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    @pedant @bluesqueakpip Late to the party of sugar.

    Wondering if Diabetes is hereditary? Is remission something that lasts for a few years only anyway? I know with Cancer or Crohns (both with unknown etiology) that a few years only can be widely interpreted. Are sounds being made to indicate that the study mentioned would rid the body of Diabetes completely or, as I interpreted, only for a few years?

    idiotsavon @janetteb @mudlark How are things in mudlark manor, Savon Manor etc etc ?

    Yes, the PM no-one’s heard of! And I can see a PM May cartoon mudlark, with your speech bubble clinging to a marble or wooden post (from 1500) “I do not, will not, listen. I am right, right, right…”

    Puro

    #67449
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    @mudlark

    Oh I LOVE drop scones! I’d never even heard of them until a friend of mine showed me almost 10 years ago.

    Jolly delicious.

    Puro

    #67445
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    @pedant @winston

    that’s great history & I didn’t know an inch of it -or a pinch of it (salt) nor a cup of it (flour & sugar presumably).

    Aussies put a pinch of salt in their pancakes, whether savoury or not. The worst crepes I had was in Lausanne. Twice. For some reason between ’93 & 2009 I believed they’d improve. They were SO sweet I wanted to throw myself into “Lac” Geneva. It was also darned hot. After coming down & round the mountain (feel free to sing along: “& she’ll be comin’ round the mountain, comin’ down the mountain….till she comes”) from Zermatt -with the last of the official ski season finishing that week- it was about -2 Celsius. I was faced with 70% humidity and 32 degrees

    But of course Lausanne is beautiful particularly when the fog lifts.  Puro

    PS:  a sing out to all our brothers and sisters in NZ.  xx

     

    #67442
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    @mudlark

    I should have said the 5-8 thousand models are affixed to the house so they’re used for the entire property. Most people in this suburb have 3 or 4 bathrooms etc -2 kitchens even.

    Not us, though. Just two loos and one small kitchen but we do go thru a massive amount of water. I should look at my water bill and list it.

    Coffee grounds is brilliant . And last night for the time in 6 months we had heavy rain for most of the night.

    Niiice

     

     

    #67438
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    @winston (sorry, I had a page of stuff & it vanished : Dr who Forum is not responding. etc etc).

    I use water from baths, washing machines, old water bottles -and I shower outside. Discreetly!

    Its desperate -north the big rains and south, nothing but dirt. It’s awful.

    @mudlark taught me how to treat my gardenia so thank you to her! I did have the foresight to water the terribly root bound pot once it was OUT of the pot. I didn’t pop it in a bucket of water 🙁  and also we DO have hard water.  We have so little rain but a rain tank would be helpful. Generally, the smaller ones are still $5000

    #67434
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    @pedant @winston

    They are amazing. Gawd, no wonder pancakes are……intriguing. Oh boy, I’m salivating now! I can imagine thin pancakes with ricotta cheese and brown sugar mixed with berries and vanilla whipped cream….or, during a 6 month period where I stayed with friends on a farm every morning we had lemon and sugar on pancakes. They were hot off the griddle because it snowed every morning on our way to the school bus. Across dales and hills.

    #67412
    syzygy @replies

    “ooh Maestro Prevvvinnn”. I had a professor during a post-grad course who was all about Previn. For some reason it took a few years for me to fall for him  -Vaughn Williams is one of most juicy composers of that century. Watery scenes, evocative & sense-laid.

    Puro.

    #67399
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    @pedant

    my inner dummy spoketh

    Ooh, I’m averting my eyes now. They’re averted…..Whoa!

    🙂

    #67396
    syzygy @replies

    @winston @pedant and @whisht

    Yes, that’s the one, isn’t it? The song people say “hang on, THAT’s Chicago??” Great stories about who wrote it, why they were struggling to complete the album & the name of the song as well.

    You can see Cetera still performing today but in a suit & tie 🙂

    But Kath was the prima donna guitarist with RSMag commenting that he was criminally underrated compared with anyone putting finger to frets. I was saying before (I accidentally deleted it) that their stuff wasn’t as obscure as, say, Steely Dan’s or even The Byrds.  Some of Cream’s output could be ….complicated whereas Chicago’s is still toe-tapping with some awesome solos. Aerosmith and Jon Bon Jovi cite Chicago as heavy influences and if you look deeper into Joy Division’s influences Terry Kath’s mentioned -I think everyone would’ve mentioned Kath! It’s no surprise that Hendrix said “he’s as good as me. OK, seriously? Probably better, in fact, the best.” Hendrix was always full of himself so it was nice to see him knuckle down & listen to others.

    Years ago when I was here first I remember asking you @whisht if you could find the clip where Hendrix decides to fire up his guitar at Woodstock? But I remember the urban myth that he did something ….far more shocking (fortunately it remains a myth; not true; not eva, eva real).

    Puro x

    #67387
    syzygy @replies

    @pedant  @whisht

    Oh I know. His death popped up on my feed.  Such lovely memories of the whole band. Even dad liked them which says something (maybe)

    Thank you for the Jeremy Hardy. And Rebecca Front! And bees….And buttons.

    Phobias. That was actually very interesting.

    Puro

     

    #67382
    syzygy @replies

    so it’s been awhile and I’ve not seen this popping up in my in-box (my fault obviously).  I saw this last many, many moons ago.

    Above I read Castellan is very good….& is he played by Milton Johns?

    @janetteb I agree -this was my bread & butter Who.  The actor playing Rodan tickles me. Do you recall an Aus movie The Getting of Wisdom? I think this actress was in it -not sure exactly how or even why, but it’s a ‘feeling.’

    I’ve managed to find Part 2 on Daily Motion. Now, in respect of Andred, @jimthefish I think he’s not really playing a very consistent role here?  I was confused the moment he appeared on screen as to what he was expected to communicate -whether serious, comically superior or….just comical 🙂

    The Matrix! Great memories.

    Puro

    #67381
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    @blenkinsopthebrave -me too! It was a late night of telly watching for the Puro Crew

    @mudlark Eyes, noses, next it’ll be ears! Glad your chest infection has diminished, however & thank you for the answer.

    Puro

    #67377
    syzygy @replies

    @scaryb  your headline comment caused me to jump to this thought. For the wordsmiths out there & you know who you are – & @mudlark are you home yet?

    I see this headline:

    thousands demonstrate against Climate Change.”

    Is that the correct way to write: Climate Change is a THING & it’s bad so we protest
    ?  It could be read as “we’re protesting against it because it’s not real & our jobs are fading etc etc

    Puro

     

    #67376
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    @scaryb

    that’s brilliant to read Scary, thank you: hope you’re doing well.

    Puro x

    #67369
    syzygy @replies

    I think Meddling Monk was mentioned?  🙂

    So, I have to go with the Capt Obvious & apologies if it’s been done before!

    Purox

    #67364
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    @cathannabel.  I’m  so sorry. It’s, as He says, sudden. And what a terrific talent she had!  This reminds me of news in Aus -a RC into Aged Care. The stories -the truths are horrible. But that’s for another day…a different discussion. She obviously inspired  many people and it’s wonderful to know that. What people are capable of, or were, once.

    So, the Who Bunnies are up….Wigglin butts outta bed… (I actually googled “butts” because I’ve never known if it’s had two ‘tts’.) whilst we get ready for bed. A storm is a-brewing…. An actual one.

    Then I thought of the softly softly of Gilmore…. considering the other ‘B….’ thing over your way that everyone is talking about and thinking about, we need something glorious.

     

    #67358
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    @cathanabbel

    Equally sorry – and the Ogdon would’ve been marvellous.

    Love to you all.

    Puro and Thane

    #67344
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    @cathannabel

    The Snarky Puppy has been driving me nuts. Not in the normal musical way. But that  Mad Dog reference (somewhere) when connected with Puppy made me think of: aircraft (a passion of mine and Thane’s of late after  his helicopter training session. Best not repeated due to needing millions to actually get the ticket!).

    So, not Snarky Puppy but Angry Puppy referencing Mad Dog. Love me a call-sign.

    Guess we all do? It’s the nature of the internet now that, back then, wasn’t anticipated beyond a small group of elite fly-men.

    Puro (hope you & yours are keeping well, Cath. Thoughts spinning your way…..)

    #67343
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    @walruswho

    I’m not surprised -the theme is history’s greatest, in my not-so-humble opinion 😉

    There are many themes I really like & many of them aren’t huge melodic cycles but something a little different. Who fits that bill.

    On a totally non-sci-fi subject, so does Sorkin’s major film The Social Network with composers Atticus Ross & Trent Reznor. Directed by another favourite David Fincher.

    Puro and T16 (who aint 16 anymore) .Welcome to the site.

    #67335
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    @walruswho

    Well, I’m speechless! That was some job. It’s such a terrific theme, isn’t it?

    So, you could also be “who-doo Gurus” 🙂   (after the Australian band, the Hoodoo Gurus).

    Puro

    #67333
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    was on youtube (& survived) & I found a set of little eps on “easter eggs’ in DR Who. Incl Flatline, the Day of, The Time of, Family of Blood, the time when Oswin first appears. I should link to it.

    Of them all, I remember only 3. That’s terrible!

    Good fun.

    Puro

    #67319
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    @whisht

    I see what you mean about his writing and the prose.

    @blenkinsopthebrave it’s worse than a farce, isn’t it, this ‘administration’? Maybe one day we’ll  wake up and realise it was all a dream 🙁

    Puro.

    #67315
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    @craig

    I have a Marie Cooper from the US  ‘army’ giving me her private email wanting to reveal information 🙂

    Puro.

    #67313
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    @whisht  @pedant

    It’s funny that real people in the ACTUAL UK watched Mind Your Language or Are you being Served?  🙂

    My dear Mum loved those shows. Gawd.

    I was waiting till she mentioned this adoration to my year 5 teacher who was born in London and arrived in her mid-30s, husband and two children in tow. Boy, on PT evening Mrs Boski give me and mum a ‘look.’ One of those that teachers have in their repertoire (the thousand yard stare) and which I learnt to use with no fucks given.

    Mum did love Pamela Stephenson (not Rowan Atkinson). Two days ago, with McEnroe commentating on the Australian Open, Thane checked YT and McEnroe’s antics. One game was more ballistic than usual. He did the “you’re incompetent” routine but it was actually scary when the ballistic was upped to DEFCON 1 as McEnroe stomped around, screaming at the ump: “ANSWER. THE.  GODDAMN. QUESTION!!”  He was a bit of a wanker.

    NTNON was terrific. Aaaand speaking of Stephenson and NTNON….

    @whisht, you did post that lovely choon before, and please do any of those again. My father was an exceptional piano accordionist. If I hear a concertina or any bellows-driven instrument, vivid memories emerge ….my parents inviting people from the Czech club for dessert, where they’d down cheap tequila shots sucking on salt and lemon by the truckload and then singing hideously out of tune.puro

    I had my own accordion  -a  fart weapon – used when it was 2 am -it  would clear a room (or party) in 5 minutes. Eventually I could actually fart musically (to be fair I was seven).

    Prof Longhair I knew from blues and strings … I googled this and realised he died in 1980, January 30.

    This post has extended itself like Hermione Granger’s extendable bag -but most of that was hidden!

    Puro.

     

    #67300
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    @whisht

    That’s very interesting! It has a punk feel but it’s the chord structure & refrain which is REALLY interesting. That ‘twiney’ steel sound, lots of heavy bass, a deep voice, niiice chord changes which go somewhere different than you think.  @pedant @geoffers

    I have another ear worm -more so a need to resolve what it is that makes 80s and 90s music sound so very particular. I have to look into it more. Various papers discuss different periods of music; individual bands or even cities which produce such bands but I’ve not yet encountered a thesis on the definitive feel of the 1980s produced by groups like Devo or Crowded House which is interesting.  I think you may’ve encountered Cold Chisel through Ian Moss or Jimmy Barnes?  Ian Moss, in his debut album, Matchbook (which won an absolutely deserved award) wrote one of the best songs of the era in Tucker’s Daughter.

    Other Cold Chisel songs include ‘No Sense’ which has a funky & gripping bass cross-matching Barnes’ high vocal line. Good stuff.

    #67294
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    @janetteb that is bloody awful! “Bloody” tends to be quite an Aussie thing, says Thane. I remember various people shouting “bloddy hill.” 🙂

    45 degrees is no joke. It’s not easy to stay cool, here, but you’re far worse off.

    I know Thane purchased a $2 pkt of ice and tipped it the bath to have an ice bath. Yeah, right. The so-called cold tap water is basically warm water and measured at 30C. How nuts is that! Modern housing tends to keep the pipes closer to the surface so naturally they bake in the hot sun.

    @geoffers @whisht @pedant there’s a clicky on music thread -only if you want, mind. But you might’ve better things to do -or listen to – at any rate. @geoffers you’ve given me some terrific listening hours. Much appreciated.

    Puro

    #67293
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    @ltia

    Lovely name, btw. It’s a great place. We’re not AS busy as we were a few weeks ago – can’t believe the NY special was nearly a month ago.

    Welcome, you’ll have a blast

    Thane16 and Puro

    #67291
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    So the clues end up with THIS

    #67290
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    @geoffers

    I know! Saying “something is SO easy” is a bit like me saying to Thane “listen, this the ‘doh’ pitch and THIS is the ‘sol -mi’ sound. It’s easy just SING it.”

    See, this is what happens when I try to be funny?  Smiley faces or emojis are confusing. Some people use them first to write “hey, this is HILARIOUS” whilst others add them in order to end a divisive or confusing conversation -divisive isn’t the word. Maybe to ensure harmony, to prevent antagonism? I know I try to use it the first way, but occasionally not. Sooo, I was hoping to show that the statement “it’s easy!” is quite ridiculous!

    It’s one of those ear worms isn’t it? It’s made me crazy. I see a few horror movies with Thane and a lot of them show some weird ‘moving thing’ under the skin. Gives me goosebumps. It’s possible I have an actual worm…..

    I’m scaring myself now!

    Puro

    xx

    #67281
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    @whisht

    I didn’t mind The Veronicas. Also Katie Noonan. Not a band -front singer from jazz to what people round about call ‘Indie’ moosic.

    Just googling there is a terrific name of a Bris/Logan band: Fat Mans Cleavage  😀  Lovely!

    Puro.

    #67277
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    @ichabod

    I made an error! I think I meant another movie with ‘money’ in it? Actually, no, it’s Molly’s Game?

    It looks really good! But I might catch MoneyBall too.

    I am interested in some films that capture elements of American culture: I remember when I first heard Paradise by The Dashboard Light. Has so many American elements. A nation very different to our own one -back then I would say?

    Thank you. T16

    #67275
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    @ichabod

    Are you’re back!! I will tell Mum that. I really wanted to see it? Dad watched it & was not that impressed? Mum loves Bill Nighy. We all do.  Right now, I should be on another thread but I was watching out for the new Sorkin film called Moneyball. Have you seen that at all? I think it is on disc by now.

    T16  and happy new year to you!!

    #67270
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    @geoffers

    That’s the argument against a lot of music, isn’t it? Just how impenetrable it can be. Despite trying, JM Jarre wasn’t easy for me. Oxygene’s brilliant. But after 30 mins I panic and freak out. I find the intense orchestration and lack of pitch variation monotonous. Obviously I was hated for this opinion! “Ah, Puro you are SO lite! You and your Mozart and Haydn. Don’t you just die for Mahler?”

    Ok, that was from a film I loved. But still. Music needs melodies that rise and fall. History shows us those are passed down and repeated. I was thinking of Twisted Sister’s We’re not Gonna Take It now used by the foul Clive Palmer in his “Vote for the UAP!”  but naturally changing the scansion so it sounds a little like @pedant‘s favourite film where Bill Nighy (don’t mention that vapid dude who’s in love with a girl who’s just married his best mate) tries to add an extra syllable to a song that was once a hit.

    Speaking of Nighy….there’s a strange series -an Agatha Christie – starring the venerable Nighy  that looks  horrorific. Has it been well received in the UK?

    Puro

    #67269
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    Ah, TRB, Tran Stacey. Niiice. I mean, Stan Tracey -links with Ambler etc. Very talented pianists. Parents were considered pretty far right conservative in the late ’80s and Ambler  against advice, played for the TRB for a few gigs “just temp, mind, lads, OK?” and ended up staying for awhile

    @whisht That’s a terrific story!  The da-da duh in particular was very cool.  @pedant same. Except Plaistow Patricia is one I don’t know at all and thus would’ve been obliged to play it. The Plaistow is the cooking chocolate, no?

    I see there have been many words written by Thane! I think he’s exaggerating a little. I wasn’t locked in the study for hours -well, a couple, here and there. I have old tapes there ….and he’s let that cat out of the bag. But I have internet and… I know the song.

    Shall I tell it?

    OK. I won’t. Not yet. Thank you @whisht Brisbane’s only band except for Savage Garden who were technically Brisbanish though lived in less auspicious Loganholme. Shit they never looked that good at school, for sure. Their one and only album was a bit ‘meh.’

    So, @geoffers that has been fun AS (something teens say, they never finish the sentence. A little like “Good, but.”).

    Clues. You need clues.

    It’s hot.

    It’s forev-AH (big clue).

    No chicks because of the grunt.

    Band of blokes.

    Drumming on tables

    Beach in the background.

    Aaaaand the word “cold.”

    Come ON! This is easy!! 🙂

    Puro

    PS: Final Clue. Worth a loss of 10 points? Yes?

    The main guy doesn’t live in Australia very often. Mainly where you are. And, if you listen to J…ah… him, talk, you’ll realise he’s quite “English.” or British.

    #67260
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    @pedant @geoffers @whisht

    I have heard this too! But it wasn’t a grocery store -or any ‘real’ store but a chiropractor and physio’s HQ. The music they played was that 20th century stuff mum loves. Not nice listening & a lot of screechy violins. Maybe they think if the patients can deal with the music they can handle the pain of a ‘cracked back.’ I always seem to have my back cracked, or my pelvis and my ankles and finger joints are always cracking; I used to crack them (stupid) when I was 6 or 7 & kept being told it could be bad if I didn’t stop.

    Not sure I listened the first or the third time but I do now 🙂

    I have a feeling I’m also close to cracking this case…..

    #67258
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    @pedant

    Ri3hT!  It is a question I didn’t consider. A grocery store has an actual channel. And it’s an AUs store.  So….they would consider their market, how many songs they re-play & why & which is more likely to be played in the first place?

    T16

    #67252
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    also, its not Alphaville’s Forever Young. I thought of this originally thinking I had nailed it. I think a few  years ago the New Zealand and Australian travel organisations or even the NZ government used that song to advertise the country as a tourist destination.

    T16

    #67251
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    @geoffers That’s terrific! I haven’t experienced much ’90s music? But I will now look at much more. Actually Mum would reckon that she’s heard a lot of music from the 90s which she also likes a lot: I didn’t know that! The APP sounds like a terrific band and in listening to some last night (during the tennis) I think it’s like Pink Floyd but not ‘lite’ -I think they’re as good? I know about 8 songs of Pink F. Such an awesome band. So good that it’s like heavy clever rock music that’s hard to understand.

    Thank you to  both @whisht and to @geoffers for your assistance! @whisht I’m glad that I am able to provide you with a good laugh! Sometimes, dunno about you, but every new year there’s resolutions and excitement and then there’s an anticlimactic period just before school/work ? So this is keeping me occupied!

    I think, I can’t be sure -and I just woke up – but I heard a happy shriek and mum laughing happily with lots of w00s and wows I got it -sort of thing?

    So, just now when I came up she looked like a cat with cream! So, she also said she wasn’t going to tell me. I have to work it out 🙁  But if you’re also happy to keep figuring it out, then brilliant!  We’re in it together. I’ll summarise what I know (or think I know because if Mum said the above things they may not be true -they may be what she thought was right at or in that moment!)

    – high pitch (maybe women maybe high-pitch fellas##)

    -fast or quick in tempo which means pace

    – for-ev-ah (could mean NOT American sounding)

    -something to do with drinking beer probably in a pub or set in a pub or feels like it

    -possibly Australian (where she said “in this particular country therefore bars & if 80s therefore NOT women/chicks”##)

    -in & around the 1980s

    -features some drumming.

    But, here’s something else. She said to Dad “say it again”. Dad never says (former DS in the Essex area a long, long time ago) “murder a cold one.” So, he KNEW it (maybe: can’t check, he’s sleeping) or maybe said that because it’s been very hot and steamy so maybe mum reacted to a DIFFERENT word, not “a cold one” but “murder” or another word in that phrase  such as “cold” -but not a drink that’s cold? Maybe a person or a …..thing…. She says it is right there in front of us so I think if I did get her laptop it could be right there. But she’s listening to a guy I really like, Tim Minchin on the laptop and humming away, no more worries about ‘which song’ anymore. Lucky her!

    T16.

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    Ok. I have clues.

    she was watching tennis & dad said “I could murder a cold one.”

    No-one said anything. He never says “murder” this … She says, “say it again. SLOWLY.”

    So he says:  “I could murder a cold one.”

    “something about THAT mixed with “for-ev-a being pretty high up so maybe women but the grunt, there’s too much grunt. But it’s a high grunt.” She wanders off.

    Dad has his ginger beer. And Mum is back staring at the beer. There’s water dribbling down -condensation?

    Then, at the table she starts drumming a beat. And stops….

    And says, “there’s drumming and there’s a drink. It’s cold. It’s got grunt. Serious grunt. There’s only one country that has serious grunt in music. With a drink. And if it’s this particular country. It’s a bar. And if it’s the ’80s it aint chicks.”

    And she went to bed. But she believes she’s very close to cracking the case.

    I have no idea. My plan is to nick her laptop. It has 1106 songs on it from her old ipod. I think it’s on there?  Depends how they are organised. Also she’ll know if it’s gone thru the night and there’ll be gnashing of …something. Best pause. Or delete my browser thingy (because the Doctor says this).

    She kept tapping on the wall, on the stairs, trying to get the rhythm and saying “for-ev-ah.”

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    @geoffers @whisht

    With a lot of grog on hand (she’s allowed now on account of her teeth…long story).

    We have crossed Tom and Mr Parson’s off the list (but it looks like there’s no apostrophe). Unfortunately. They were awesome songs and I personally haven’t heard them before. Through the door I gave her a bar piece (a sentence of music) and she shouted “NO!!”

    Sigh.

    However, we’re closer. She’s pretty certain it was relatively high in pitch implying women’s voices but not really, as I’ve said many many times now to her! Also it had a “poppy feel”. I think this means “pop.”  The tempo was ‘up’ or quick.

    Thing is, there are many songs with forever in it. She has tapes of songs. Stacks of them. But. They’re in battery operated tape decks? So when the battery runs out…..well, hopefully we’ll know by then.

    I also think she was singing in the night -she said  . So it had to be a band she knew enough of. Therefore she has it in her bag of tapes. Or CDS. And when she heard it (I asked these questions): she said it wasn’t a huge surprise, it was like “oh that ol’ choon. Like that. Where’s the icecream?” Also she heard a kind of “for-ev-a.”

    So, I am trying to think of something that sounds like “for-ev-a da daaah. Which is, I dunno, she’s thinking it has an ’80s feel. Which could mean it’s 1978 or 1990. Which isn’t all bad. Uh, also the actual song had SOME grunt which is why she thought it could be Laura Brannigann or another singer (female) called Belinda Carlisle. But they are solo, no?

    So, I think by the next series of Who we’ll figure it all out. Or, and I think this is quicker: the Coles radio station (supermarket) plays the same sort of songs to people ….well, Mum’s age: therefore 80s music AND so ….why not stay there a WHOLE day because 20 to 1 and pick ’em you’ll hear it again    😀

    T16. I will inform Mother of the Activity. She will be very thankful.

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    @whisht

    The Music Man is Back! it is thane speaking. Mum is excited to see this thread hopping!!

    She was telling in @pedant in Email Bursts (that is what we call them) about how at grocery shops she heard a song from the 1980S which had the words “forever” in it. 24 hours later she thinks it is Kiss song ‘Forever’  which is hilarious because they sound either really tired stoned maybe and out of tune the whole time. Mum was saying they’re sharp not flat which is why she thinks it’s not that song!  Also, she’s established that it’s not Alphaville. Shame because it’s a good song and it’s better than Richard Marx! (I hope I haven’t offended any Marx lovers?)

    I think she’s going demented with all of it. It’s been lots of eyeliner and massive perms and rollers with high cut denim. She’s been listening to every significant band and not since 1979 until 1989 including: The Cars, REO SpeedWagon, Van Halen,  Savage Garden (she taught one of those guys & not from the 80s obviously), Europe, Chicago, Motley Crue, Cheap Trick, REM, Ann Wilson (??)  -don’t know that one unless it’s Wilson Phillips but that’s not in the 1980s , Belinda Carlisle (LOVE her!), Roxette,  Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and MY personal favourite Black Sabbath’s ‘After Forever.’ Then there’s some dude called Peter Cetera? He sounds like a front man for another band, but  I don’t know. I can’t risk going into the music room -she’s doing what she calls a palette cleanser for music and listening to Tom Lehrer -all that Bostonian accent. It’s too much! We are going to have to do an “intervention” if she’s not solved the problem by tomorrow.  Also, if it’s The Spice Girls then we’re all going to regret this whole thing!

    How are you doing @whisht?

    I am glad you liked those songs. I think there are SO many great songs. particularly in the 1980s, but I also think the same of the 1970s and ’90s. A lot of people think “this generation has terrible music” but in 2022 people will pull out songs from 2012 or 2019 and say, “these were great days.”  Maybe that’s why the new Doctor Who was SO different: it alienated (LOL) some older watchers because a lot was very new and very different. And we all know how ‘different’ things can frighten people. If they’re frightened they can become angry to hide that fear. Seems normal in a way. Maybe we were always like this?

    But it takes incessant technology where you respond before you think to have that fright and anger come out?   I like The Moody Blues too. So does Mum. That was obviously on the list regardless of the decade which in updates is: “Could well be the wrong decade.”

    In which case we’re up sh*t creek with no paddle surrounded by alligators wearing rollers!

    Bit heavy for this thread, hey?  😉

    Thane16

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