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  • #28135
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    It still feels remarkably fresh. Agree that the casting is spot on, and the decision to keep so much of Adams’ original words as a voiceover works really well (with Peter Jones voice of course).

    Am also really impressed with the graphics – it’s a very close approximation of how the interweb works now (including lots of little detail you had no chance of seeing till freezeframing the slightly dodgy VHS recording later). In fact it looks more like a modern websearch than the internet did when it first appeared in the 90s (which generally tended to be flat and fairly unimaginative). You can forgive a lot of the other FX when they spent this much time and care on the Book itself.

    There’s a lot that seems to have seeped into contemporary culture that we take for granted eg babelfish (and agree with @phaseshift about the detail of its entry), the importance of towels etc

    And yes, the dalek tribute has been around for a while, but well worth a re-post

    #28134
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    @arbutus
    I think Lalla’s school uniform style was very much of a time and place – very 50s, British (check out various films, inc St Trinians (orig), British girls’ comics from the 60s in particular; it was quite an upper class/private school look). Glad it’s not a universal thing then.

    @janetteb I can’t find it now, but you said something recently on another thread along the lines of –
    “your favourite Doctor is the one you’re watching now”
    That was brilliant
    🙂

    #28131
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    Ah, so much to catch up, so little time 🙂
    I liked this episode, on the whole, and the chemistry between Tom and Lalla really makes it work, which is just as well because I find Lalla’s costume very offputting.

    Thank you @blenkinsopthebrave for mentioning it. I hated it at the time (being not long out of a school that made you wear hats – there was NOTHING aspirational about a character in a school uniform) and I hate it even more now, with a more adult awareness of the associations. Whoever came up with that idea should have been shot. They could have done it in Paris. No one noticed people brandishing guns there 😉

    I don’t mind the panto-ishness of it, it’s meant to be off-kilter with the time experiments going on. (Chuckled at the customers in the background around 20:20 – they take a lot of interest in the conversation at the Doctor’s table even if they don’t bat an eyelid at guns)

    #28129
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    I’d forgotten just how good this story is, even though it’s one of my favourites. Thanks to everyone for picking out the various refs. @wolfweed – if the vehicles weren’t all the same the Doctor would have had a much harder job in breaking in and out of them all (wonderful use of a sonic screwdriver to circumvent the need for an extra 3 episodes!).

    I thought the Macra were a good choice, especially as they are creatures of pollution. (Maybe more for the concept than the actual execution)

    And kittens… what would happen when they grew up…? And how….? Ah, maybe best not to overthink some things 😉

    I liked the portrayal of the car drivers as passive – as a metaphor for just grinding on cos there’s nothing else to do, with the bleakness of MegaCity1 at its dreariest (see @phaseshift‘s excellent blog for more detail). Although that would seem to confirm @bluesqueakpip‘s comment about RTD “getting religion wrong” if they were meant to be pilgrims.

    #27951
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    @phaseshift Thanks for your post to the Graun CiF new format. OMG!! 😯
    *scurries back to the safety of the sofa!*

    Welcome waves to @rejetto and @tbird7702
    (I second Phaseshift’s recommendations as a good way in and agree completely with @janetteb – An Unearthly Child is where it all began – everything since comes from there; it’s surprising (in a good way) how much of post 2005 is still true to the basic concepts set up in the very first episode).

    #27950
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    That’s a great cosplay of Eldrad. Possibly better than the original costume!!

    #27949
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    Oops, apologies re post #27495 – it as @wolfweed who said “they’re scary again”, not @phaseshift (If any mods want to amend that post then delete this one, that’s fine by me!)

    #27947
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    I really liked this story at the time, but coming back to it I’ve seen a lot more subtlety in it than I was aware of at the time.

    Louis Marks didn’t write many stories for Who but they all had unusually striking concepts and were good solid bits of storytelling and characterisation – Planet of Giants (Hartnell) and Planet of Evil and Masque of Mandragora (both for T Baker).

    Random thoughts –

    After the discussion last week when the Doctor is happily blasting Ogrons, it’s good to hear him very strongly state his case about not killing unnecessarily (Daleks and Ogrons excepted presumably!).  And to see that stance being the pivotal moment and action that changes the final outcome of the story.

    #27945
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    I agree with the majority re the SE version, it definitely works for me, particularly the ray gun beams and the Dalek voices. The Dalek voices are important, in the original they have minimal threat (the viewer has to add a lot of their own interpretation). In the SE version, as @phaseshift says, they’re scary again. Woods’ performance deserves it. In many ways this is his story, his journey to redemption. (I usually prefer to see warts and all, but the SE version of this could persuade me to change my mind, it’s very sympathetically done IMO).

    Another scene I could pick out is when Woods left alone after the Doctor has just shown him mercy, but he’s now having the reality of having to explain to his “masters” that he’s lost the prisoners.  His final scene, when he’s seen thro the Daleks eyestalk is great, and I actually felt like giving him a cheer! As @janetteb says, he knows that he may not even have existed after this moment(!) but he steps up to the plate with dignity. The only satisfaction in seeing the Senior Guard (and yes another great performance) eagerly taking his place (fulfilling the Doctor’s comment that “they would always find someone”) is knowing he’s not going to last long! But it highlights how far the Controller has come.

    (My brain exploded trying to work out if Sir Reg’s house would actually explode if the Dalek invasion didn’t happen ie no dalekaneum to cause it with…. but so long as there’s no explosion/no diplomats killed, there’s no Dalek invasion so that’s OK!)

    #27941
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    Thanks for the news posts @wolfweed.

    That’s a great achievement for Adventure in… and Sherlock (Mark Gatiss must be a happy boy!)

    And agree with @jimthefish – comic style posters are fab!

    #27919
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    That’s a cracking last episode!

    Aubrey Woods has just got better and better throughout the story. The Controller is full of repressed contradictions. His confrontation with the Doctor, when the Doctor calls him out on his excuse of expediency, that his family helped to “make things better” for  the few remaining humans, is electrifying.  Pertwee is also great, suddenly switching to authoritative mode, so coldly scathing in his condemnation – “You sir are a traitor!”, as he strips away the Controller’s layer of self delusion that he was in any way in control of anything where the Daleks were concerned. Beautifully directed scene.

    I like how his character develops from being almost camp but cold villain of the piece at the beginning to someone we can feel a degree of empathy with by the end. His description of the long years of war, then three generations at least of Dalek rule. Perhaps living with the Daleks dehumanised him, made it easy for him to delude himself about what he was doing, and it took exposure to the Doctor to make him remember what it is to be human.

    I also thought the characterisation of the guerilla group members was strong. When we first meet them they are the bad guys, passionate beyond reason apparently, for their cause. But then we come to see that they are the best of what is left of humanity, but worn down by years of being on the losing side, and deluded.

    And yes the temporal paradox – nothing like a closed loop to get your brain tied completely in knots –

    Have the guerillas been doing this on a repeating cycle…?  It would be nice to think that the Controller would be a better person without the Daleks in his life but maybe his family just found a niche as petty government officials!

    I must say I thought Sir Reginald took the destruction of his house remarkably well. I also admire his optimism that the peace delegates are going to be happy to continue talks in a country where they’ve just narrowly missed being blown to smithereens! Explaining that they were attacked by space aliens from the future is hardly going to do much for his credibility! There again he’s obviously very persuasive!

     

     

    #27843
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    @whisht @bluesqueakpip

    weird law that says you hard drive and your back-up hardrive will always fail at the same time

    Ain’t that the truth!

    #27842
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    Hi @stickfiddler and @englishmaninnc
    Welcome.
    For help on posting and practicalities, see the “Help” tab on the right of the menu bar –
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    Re wanting a signed photo, I’d send it straight to Jenna c/o Doctor Who office at BBC Roath Lock Studios, BBC Drama Village, Porth Teigr Way, 4GA, Cardiff CF10, UK
    Mark the outside of the envelope as “fan mail – autograph request”
    (I’m sure the DW office has a budget for fan postage 🙂 )

    And if you want to say Hi and introduce yourself, go to the On the Sofa thread – that way you’re more likely to get seen, and a response
    🙂

    #27823
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    OooooooH! Sympathies to @whisht Don’t worry about what you’ve lost – the good stuff and favourites will find you again! Best of luck. And motto of the day peeps – as @janetteb says – back up, back up, back up!

    #27801
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    @jimthefish
    Well spotted on the Candyman.
    And no worries about the Bond reference overlap, I’ve been posting a bit late on all the episodes…hah! Try to steal my thunder(ball) would you?!!
    😉
    …I’ve got my coat, I’ll ah, just close the door behind me!

    #27799
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    Thumbs up from me too re a H2G2* communal watch. Great idea

    *winks at @Purofilion

    #27792
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    Really enjoyed coming back to this, especially since I missed it when it was broadcast. What a great chemistry Tate and Tennant had, right from the start. Yes Donna’s a bit “shouty” but you also see a much more vulnerable side as she listens to the cruel betrayal by the man she was going to marry. She obv has a reputation as a fun-loving prankster, but her reaction there (and elsewhere) suggests that she partly uses this as a protection, so she doesn’t have to show the other side to the world. But she’s sparky, sharp and obv resilient.

    And as others have mentioned, she was such a contrast to Rose. I also love Tennant’s portrayal, especially when he goes dark thinking about Rose, and particularly when he becomes very dark Timelordy in killing all the baby raconosses. It’s the Empress’s “My children” that gets to Donna, but it doesn’t reach Ten. He’s given her her chance and the offer isn’t coming again.

    I don’t mind the contemporary references – it’s one of the pros and cons of being a TV series, and DW has always done it. Especially AG, when they’ve had a great knack of paralleling actual events – the Olympics, the World Cup, Easter etc. In many ways it’s one of the defining things of great TV – it’s of the moment, ephemeral.

    #27784
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    @rob
    A true knight indeed!
    Maybe you should take a wetsuit and a spare pair of flippers for the next stage. Well done tho. Hope the jammy dodgers stayed dry and you had a well earned pint of caffeine at the end. Look forward to the next update (and post the fundraising link when it’s ready)

    #27775
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    I mentioned the Bond influence the other week, which I think was partly a Pertwee/era thing and also as @phaseshift mentioned again, this wasn’t originally intended to have Daleks in it. I think it gains from adding them – the chain of pressure/collusion becomes stronger. How far will someone go in allowing themselves to be compromised in order to retain the illusion of power/stay alive? It’s a credit to Woods’ performance that we start to wonder about his background. Does he too have family who are under threat? Or as it just the lure of power which led him into collaboration with the Daleks and betraying his own species?

    Agree with @bluesqueakpip and @jimthefish that the female scanners look very robotic – I wondered if they were meant to be clones?

    @thekrynoidman I was merely referring to your previous comment about Jo’s knickers! I missed a lot back then. But I loved her range of boots – always fab.

    #27767
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    Another good episode. Some nice direction – I like the use of tight closeups (you don’t need any budget to pull those off 🙂 ). The controller is a lot less camp in this. He’s quite weasily with the daleks, but then turns distinctly nasty when he gets the chance to put the pressure on his underling. The Daleks put the pressure on him, he puts the squeeze on others.

    In the nonSE version – glad the Dalek voices have speeded up (mogadon supplies must’ve run out 😉 ), but they are really very undalek and unthreatening. The tricycle chase is a bit contrived – the Ogrons look like they’re having to work really hard NOT to catch up with it (in fact check out the one on the right of the screen in the scene where the Doctor and Jo jump on the trike – he’s definitely holding back till he gets his cue.
    The tricycle scene somehow reminds me of this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS9Qmgk4aR0&feature=kp (but a bit slower and with fatter tyres!)

    And you can’t help but think that if the daleks/controller had installed audio instead of visual, or just spent some time monitoring their spy equipment that their lives would be a lot easier.

    But on the whole I liked it. Jo’s naivity in trusting the “nice” people who have rescued her contrasts with the Doctor’s attitude; she’s not afraid to challenge him, but she’ll follow the Doctor’s orders 100%.
    I trust @thekrynoidman was happy!!

    #27689
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    @Max-Nash247 I would be very surprised to see Amy and Rory return, their story’s more complete than most companions.
    @rob – yes, more super-cybermen (tho they’ll need to find a way of limiting the upgrades; it’s a great idea but it’s easy to overdo it. How invincible do they have to be before they’re actually invincible?)

    #27688
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    @phaseshift @bluesqueakpip
    Now there’s a thought – what if BBC Worldwide share of funding for Doctor Who becomes the biggest part of the programme budget?! (chuckles at thought of complete apoplectic meltdown of UK fandom)
    Simulcast is a great concept, and means we can all discuss latest episodes at the same time.
    PS Lol’d at Phaseshift’s
    SD Comic-Con will have exclusive trailers that will introduce Capaldi to the worlds press who gather there, and this will enrage fandom like last year.
    Will be interesting to see if DW can maintain its presence at SD this year.

    @monochromedimension I doubt the teletubby Daleks will be back, except maybe for the odd background shot. Even Moffat’s on record as saying they were a mistake. I like the current bronze design (especially the explodey one 😉 )

    #27687
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    Love the new Capaldi pic, great look. Tho agree with the small quibble about the buttoned up look. (I could go for the red troll hair tho! Matching hair and lining 😉 )
    Also agree with @whisht –

    What I’d like is… less ’100s of Daleks flying at a planet’ and more “Dalek is a companion??!”
    Less “the world will end if we don’t do [x]!” and more “this person will be broken if we don’t do [x]“

    They do rather like the big reveal shot with squillions of cybermen/daleks/current big threat (and sometimes it’s awesome!) so I’d be happy with some variety – a few Amy’s Choice, Girl Who Waited, Vincent and the Doctor or Blink type stories scattered thro. I think the prospects of that could be high – look at series 7 – apart from the “blockbuster” episodes which led into the 50th, most of these dealt with “small” consequences – the main threats were to the TARDIS team and small communities rather than the universe.

    #27686
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    Happy Friday everyone. It’s nearly the weekend and #3 of Day of the Daleks. what’s not ot like?! (Not to mention that my iplayer has filled itself up (of its own accord 🙂 ) with Series 6 and 7, and there seems to be an awful lot of BG DW on TV (not that I’ve managed to track it down or watch(!) but I keep seeing adverts for it (and consequently falling off the sofa 🙂 ))

    Tom Baker – Pyramids (agh, scared me senseless as a teen, there’s timeywimey stuff and Sarah Jane) or City of Death (if for no other reason than Douglas Adams). And agree, avoid Genesis just cos it’s always the one that gets trotted out (it’s a helluva story tho)

    @janetteb – You’re completely allowed ot nominate. But would also love to hear your thoughts on Day of the Daleks

    #27646
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    @jimthefish @Blenkinsopthbrave
    AAAgh!
    Was just about to make a snarky comment about the Fishy one’s slithery character… then I got Jim Moriarty!
    Oops
    I’m just misunderstood. Really!

    #27643
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    RIP Jon Pertwee, who passed away 18 years ago today.
    Our communal viewing of Day of the Daleks takes on an added poignancy

    #27634
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    @phaseshift
    Thanks for the link – looks good. Adding it to my (everlengthening) to view list!
    Yeah, still pretty bonkers-busy, but it passes the time till Series 8
    🙂
    (Nice spot on the Orphan Black casting btw)

    #27633
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    Great news about the BAFTAs, and well deserved IMHO. I see Broadchurch won Best Drama, Best Actress (Olivia Colman) and Best Supporting Actor (David Bradley) – Yay!
    (Thanks @wolfweed for the Radio Times link to Steven Moffat interview – really interesting read, and sounds very promising for series 8 and Capaldi’s Dr)

    #27629
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    Agree that Jo could be mind bogglingly naive at times (and that includes watching at the time) but she was feisty as well and the combination of the two could make her quite heroic.  The context here of course is that she thinks the guerrilas are the bad guys, and why wouldn’t she from the experience she’s had so far?  Also, although she’s the Doctor’s companion she’s had no experience of time travel to this point. And she’s never met a Dalek.

    Terrorists loomed large in public consciousness in the early 70s, with groups like Baader Meinhoff and Black September coming to prominence, and the IRA.  It’s easy to see the group teleporting in and wanting to assassinate Sir Reg as the bad guys. And yet they are obv opposing the Daleks so there are conflicting messages going on. Jo’s fled from a group of apparent killers and landed with people who appear sympathetic and rational. And she’s clearly disorientated from her trip.

    It wasn’t the first and it won’t be the last time Jo’s volubility in being eager to help lands her and the Doctor in trouble.

    Interesting about the use of weapons. The whole gadget/vehicle thing was much stronger in the Third’s tenure than in others – possibly to make up for the lack of a functioning TARDIS (as well as keeping Pertwee happy). Jason King and the Avengers have been mentioned as influences but there’s also a strong Bond vibe (which was around its peak in the early 70s).

    Love @nick‘s

    writing Dalek poetry

    That sets off a whole new train of thought!

    And another great cliffhanger.

    #27628
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    @phaseshift – you mentioned Doomwatch – is ReGeneration worth checking out?

    #27627
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    @whisht

    Its occurred to me (I’m slow on the uptake) that (simplistically in an-exec-will-understand-it-this-way) BSG was “Wagon Train in space” and Blake’s Seven was “Robin Hood in space”.

    Doctor Who is just… “Doctor Who – a madman in a box”.
    There is no template other than the template that it creates itself.

    Love it!

    Re Broadchurch/Gracepoint – I’m generally really wary of remakes for a different market – the show either works or it doesn’t. A lot of what I liked about the original BC was the tightness of the script, the pacing and the direction. But most of all the actors, who had that unselfconscious eccentricity, a natural Twin Peaks vibe of genuine weirdness going on that meant that any of them could believably have been the culprit. But Twin Peaks seen thro a British prism, a premise which is about to be reversed.

    I’d love to see it working, but I’m wary. I have more optimism for a BC series 2.

    #27626
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    @monochromedimension

    re trying not to get too hyped up… I’m still trying to recover from all the excitement of last year! 😛

    #27625
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    @janetteb

    I didn’t know there was to be a follow up to Adventure in Space and Time. I think I must have missed an announcement.

    Sorry, no you didn’t. I was just speculating that the story of the recovery of 9 (or more…?!!) missing episodes is going to be a doozy! (Actually that could be part 3 – there’s the JNT/Baker/wilderness years to be covered as well (tho that’s likely to be the horror episode 😉 )

    #27620
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    Good to see you back @monochromedimension

    Nice new pic of PC – he looks much more colourful than the other 2! Also looks like he’s getting nicely embedded in the role 🙂

    And welcome  home @abxy

    Nice vids @fatmaninabox (yikes!) and @wolfweed

    I realised the restoration process was laborious but that video really brings home how fragile the tapes carrying our fave stories really are.  It must have been amazing to watch that first scene suddenly jump into life on the computer screen, and realising you were the first people to watch it for 40 years.

    #27617
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    Oh and thanks for posting the SE version. It’s subtly changed for the most part, but makes a huge difference.

    LOL’d at “Daleks on mogadon”. They sneaked in about 3 other scenes by speeding up the end speech!

    #27616
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    I liked this as an opening episode, the premise is intriguing, with lots of strands set up.

    Had to laugh at this –

    This is definitely one of the stories where he sometimes seems to have a bit of the Dame Margaret Rutherfords about him.

    @jimthefish @phaseshift

    Agree. I rather liked the 3rd Doctor tho. He wasn’t Hartnell or Troughton but he had a certain, slightly louche, charm (and great jackets) and could be as mischievous as either of them. Ultimately confining a character who was an interstellar temporal wanderer to 1 place and time was never going to work long term, but it very much defined the Third.  He has to (reluctantly) find a way of working with these military types who represent his best hope of escape. But he’s frequently at odds with their methods and way of thinking.

    @bluesqueakpip mentioned the juxtaposition of Yates pulling rank on Benton re food and the Brig’s “canteen’s closed” exchange, but both of these scenes are in contrast to the Doctor ‘s much more relaxed attitude to the danger. Everyone else, inc Jo, is very jumpy.

     

     

    #27488
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    @wolfweed Thanks for the Ian Levine link. He’s been threatening to erupt for a while. There does seem to be a lot of  “stuff” going on, and a money motivation would make sense.  I like to think that more missing episodes have been found, but I don’t think it’s worth losing sleep over. (OTOH I doubt there’s many folk will lose sleep over Ian L losing sleep!)  Can’t wait for the follow up to An Adventure in Space and Time though – it’s going to be a doozy!

    #27487
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    This thread is a  joy that constantly surprises. Thanks everyone for great postings, inc Sparks (I’d forgotten how downright creepy they were 🙂 ), Tom Lehrer, Alice Cooper and AC/DC… (@Phaseshift – nothing like a bit of HM to get you rho the days of teenage angst 🙂 )

    @Purofilion Hope you’re feeling better again  (poor you).

    @wolfweed – great “Twelve” vid… and the others – you’ve been busy 😎

    Now going off to have nightmares after viewing @fatmaninabox‘s Animal Kwackers and Crystal Tipps… agh! 😯 the other side of the 70s! (Well, I s’pose you did put a warning on it)

    G’night

    #27475
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    @bluesqueakpip @fatmaninabox

    Congrats on your game triumphs and please don’t lure me into it!!

    @wolfweed – you owe me a new keyboard!

    Greetings to @rob and everyone I’ve not seen for ages.

    #27474
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    Troughton is just brilliant throughout, just so watchable. I hope @htpbdet was watching with us in spirit from a blue box circling the universe somewhere. Cheers my old friend.

    #27473
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    That was great fun, love these rewatches (tho a bit behind).  And thanks everyone for the background infos and comments.  It’s been one of my favourites since I watched it 1st time round, so great to hear everyone’s very positive reactions (esp @bluesqueakpip ).

    And a nice chuckle re @phaseshift and @confusedpolarity‘s suggestion about the reaction if it was to be redone today (but what a great idea!). Ah, yes, BG Who was all about “hard sci fi” was it? Would be great to revisit it now.

    And agree with the comments above – we empathise most when the threat is to a very small no of characters that we identify with. It’s much harder to feel for an anonymous group, no matter how big the threat. OK, OK, the whole of mankind is going to be turned into fiction – BUT WHAT ABOUT JAMIE, ZOE AND THE DOCTOR?!  It’s very much linked into what @blenkinsopthebrave and others have been discussing elsewhere about a monster-free historical and “old fashioned” story telling. It doesn’t have to be that way all the time, but with the right story “small is beautiful”. The Girl Who Waited being another excellent example.

    And picking up again on comments previously – it is interesting how many themes in AG Who are echoed in this story.

    Great end of episode cliffhangers throughout this story, and the final one is no exception. No conventional reassurance that they have been returned to reality in the last scene… tune in again next week folks. (Thanks @wolfweed for confirming they survived)

    #27388
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    Hi to @leondevernier

    Great post. There are quite a few on here who are big fans of the Target novels. @phaseshift wrote a blog about it, which you might find an interesting read.

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    #27386
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    @phaseshift – love your idea of the Doctor doing that eccentric uncle thing of quoting from TV programmes/comics/holo-vids we’ve never heard of. Who would be a comic book superhero to a Timelord? Something like the Shakri perhaps… or maybe he’s more of a Viz man… which would probably end up with the Slitheen, so let’s not go there 😉

    And Troughton was great at being the “raggedy man”. I remember a post you wrote a while back, mainly about Matt, but it works for a lot of the Doctors, about how he could outwardly seem to be the gawkiest guy in the room, while in fact he’s actually the coolest. Works for me!

    #27385
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    Oops, I seem to have missed the vote deadline, but any of the suggestions for Pertwee is fine with me. Maybe day of the Daleks as I’ve seen Daemons more recently, but both lead into AG themes (and diagram possibilities 🙂 ) really well. Ah, and yes, Inferno. (Just so long as no Bonnie L!)

    #27232
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    @thekrynoidman
    (and apologies for mis-tagging you in my last post).

    Re BBC censorship – haha, yes I know, but I just like the idea that “coca cola” is the most offensive thing in the lyrics to BBC ears!

    #27230
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    @KrynoidMan @fatmaninabox
    <splutters…coffee… keyboard… that’s TWICE this morning! 😆 >
    (HiFives @fatmaninabox from a closet nonABBA fan 😉 (not that I have anything against them, it’s just that you’re supposed to like them (in a non liking sort of way!))

    Little known facts about Lola (the Kinks) – BBC insisted on censoring the track before they would play it. Coca Cola was substituted by the less offensive cherry cola. The rest of the song, like Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side, passed them by 😉

    #27223
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    Go Zoe!
    The de riguer piercing scream, plus she could do maths faster than the Doctor – and now she reveals Emma Peel style fighting skills. Not to mention her ability to rock a sparkly lurex jumpsuit! No wonder she was my fav companion.

    It’s interesting that the Karkus continues to exist. The Doctor can’t wish him away as he doesn’t know that he doesn’t exist. Zoe does tho – perhaps like the Doctor with Gulliver she chooses to keep him around.

    I love all the meta refs about the Doctor and his companions being threatened with being turned into works of fiction. The Doctor rejects the choice of a violent solution to the medusa problem, using his own mirror* instead of the sword which is temptingly provided.

    LOL @bluesqueakpip – Jamie and Zoe trapped in a French novel – oh la la! Diving into/getting lost in a good book takes on a new level of meaning!
    Bernard Horsfall – always great to watch. I presume he’s still talking mainly in dialogue from Gulliver’s Travels?

    *And the mirror the Doctor was ostentatiously flashing about in previous episodes (to show Jamie his rearranged face) comes into its owm.

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    Apologies if this has been posted already (didn’t see it if it has been)
    The Doctor needs YOUR help!
    Day of the Doctor has been nominated for the Radio Times Audience Award BAFTA. Click on the link below to cast your vote. (And try not to get distracted by the fact Broadchurch is on there too (poor DT!))

    http://www.radiotimes.com/win/radio-times-audience-award-at-the-arqiva-british-academy-television-awards-in-2014/211.html

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    Blink, and you miss pages on this thread!
    But it’s fun catching up 🙂
    Thanks everyone for a thread that can include Sun Ra, Capt Beefheart, Prodigy, Can, the Damned, Siouxsie, Arthur Darvill (RORYYYY!! 🙂 ), 17th century classical.. and everything in between!
    And @Purofilion thanks for your very poetical description of kd – no argument from me!

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