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11 October 2013 at 02:43 #18221
Cheers @everyone…
Last thought before I slide under the table (again) – is it complete coincidence that 7.2’s Big Bad was the GI? Who has just been rediscovered. Feeling very meta all of a sudden… *hic*
This is nice article in the Graun – http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2013/oct/11/doctor-who-missing-episodes-enemy-of-the-world-web-of-fear?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
PS Everybody Loves Raxacoricofallapotorius
Porridge (but not the one you think!)
(oh and thanks @wolfweed for compliment on my facelift; time to get furry. Thank you for all the pics)
G’night all
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11 October 2013 at 02:00 #18218Ok, worked it out – itunes – you get Enemy – 6 episodes plus a trailer and Web is 5 plus episode 3 as stills and audio. Which is 13. Not 9. Or 10! (@Bluesqueakpip Some of the recent animations have been pretty good eg the one for epi 4 of Tenth Planet, so yup, fingers x’d)
*scratches head in happy bemusement and heads to Rose and Crown for a nightcap*
11 October 2013 at 01:33 #18215@bluesqueakpip Thanks – I’m all in a tizz! Did they not have 2 in archive tho…? There was epi 3 from Enemy and Epi 1 from Web… I should have downloaded 11 surely..? (Or is it 12 – is there a recon for epi 3 of Web? *confused*) Oh well, I’ll find out when I when I find them. You happy?
11 October 2013 at 01:16 #18213And before ANYONE starts to moan about having to pay for them – just shut it, right!! 😉
The quality of Web of Fear in particular looks AMAZING! I presume the BBC and/or Philip Morris or whoever had to hand over cash for these films. And all the antsy and ARSEy online activity only serves to hammer home the potential market value of old DW. You’re not negotiating from a position of strength here. Plus you’ve got all the nonWho general public who will go – “You paid WHAT (of OUR licence fee) for 9 episodes of a 46 year old black & white kids science fiction show???!!” (But they’re probably not as bad as the fans with large ARSE)
And I’d imagine restoration takes a while. But I do hope they broadcast them as well. That’d be a nice gesture. I reckon most people who are interested will download and/or get the eventual DVD as well.
Now… if I can just find where itunes has put the files on my computer (dammit! I’ve only just got the hang of buying music). Still, there’s a lovely warm comforting tingly glow about knowing that somewhere on my computer is either 9 or 10 (why does itunes say there’s 10 episodes..?!) of prime Troughton DW. That’s a whole 3 months worth (Dec-Mar) in old money (as we used to say).
11 October 2013 at 00:56 #18208Oh my
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giddy
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aunt!!!
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@htpbdet Hope you’re enjoying this as much as we are. I think they couldn’t have wrapped up a better get well soon present for you. So, do it! (get well soon)
(downloading… computer going sloooo..oo..ow)
*with apologies to @blenkinsopthebrave
10 October 2013 at 23:44 #18185Pub games to pass the next 20 mins –
Currently trending on Twitter – #DoctorWhoSitcoms
eg 2 Pints of Custard and a Packet of Fish Fingers, Modern Family of Blood, and this is my fav –
10 October 2013 at 21:45 #18161Aw shucks… mwuh!
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Right now I feel like a 10 yo on Christmas Eve – you know the present’s under the tree, they’ve not forgotten you. You don’t know exactly what it is, but you do know it’s something you really really want, and it’s OK to wait just a little bit longer before you unwrap it. (Which doesn’t mean I won’t be straight on to itunes at 00.01, assuming they’re available for download then)
10 October 2013 at 21:26 #1815610 October 2013 at 21:23 #18154Brilliant (my favourite Goodies episode ref’d as well 😉 )
Additonal rumours have surfaced about the found episodes –
1 – it’s a whole (secret) Colin Baker season
2 – BBC have painstakingly restored the 60s episodes – to full colour and surroundsound
Meeow (I’ve got my coat)
10 October 2013 at 21:07 #18152@jimthefish @arkleseizure @blenkinsopthebrave and everyone (and thanks to @Shazzbot for reposting my earlier post – dunno why it wouldn’t let me post 🙁 Let you know if it happens again)
I’m assuming since Jamie and Victoria were involved then some Troughton is very likely. ANY episodes from that period would be just brilliant.
The danger now is for people to go… meh… when it’s less than the full 106 epsiodes! To put it in perspective – there’s been a total of just 8 episodes found in the last 25 years and as more and more of the limited trails are followed and ruled out, finding any new old stuff becomes less and less likely. To find episodes that have apparently been stored properly is just… beyond words. Any number above zero being found is to be heartily celebrated.
I don’t care if the BBC has been sitting on these for 5 years*! It’s an amazing anniversary present, and worth waiting for. Especially if they are taking the time to clean them up or whatever’s required. Already there’s a lot of moaning online about “why the embargo – not fair to fans” from ARSEs who clearly have no concept whatsoever about how getting stuff in the press works.
Agree with @blenkinsopthebrave – this is gold dust for those of us who saw these once, nearly 50 years ago, and for fans who didn’t. And yes, ahem, new trailer… maybe… soonish….? Although, as Lou Reed said in a very different context – “First thing you learn is you always gotta wait!”
@CaptNifty, and anyone else who’s up and about – see you in the Rose and Crown shortly after midnight 😉
*note:no insider knowledge implied here, a completely random figure I just made up
10 October 2013 at 13:35 #18115Meanwhile, as Who fandom goes into online anticip-p-pation meltdown, it’s business as usual at the official Dr Who twitter feed – with Happy Birthday to Brian Blessed (or should that be HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRIAN BLESSED?)… with a clip of him with Colin B!
And the Daleks join the nominations list for ultimate villain
https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho
🙂
10 October 2013 at 12:34 #18112I’m guessing Tenth Planet 4 is unlikely as the DVD – complete with all-new animated 4th epi is out next Mon – would look a bit eggy if the animated episode is suddenly out of date. Unless it’s a double bluff of course!
http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/dvd-preview-the-tenth-planet
10 October 2013 at 11:12 #18108Fingers, toes and everything crossed for you this afternoon. Let us know how you get on. That all sounds very Dr Who-ish – don’t forget the little shop 😉
10 October 2013 at 11:09 #18107<waves @destinyrose> Welcome to the Forum, thanks for popping in. Look forward to hearing your theories, stories, contributions
@phaseshift – wow! you speak Japanese too? And is that a female Doctor? 😆
Rummaging around on Twitter this morning I came across this (ANYTHING to get my mind off lost/unlost Who) – new project with McCoy (it’s his twitter handle so I’m guessing he’s quite involved) http://www.ministerofchance.com/
New scifi film – The Minister of Chance. They’ve made a well received audio pilot so far and they’re still fundraising for the next stage (filming the prologue). Not worked my way round all of it yet, but cast also includes Paul McGann, Paul Darrow, Philip Glenister and Jenny Agutter. (I’m not sure if I’m amused or depressed (ie you’d think with those connections they could get the damn thing commissioned, but maybe they’re going for artistic freedom) that they’re working from the basic level of eg £125 for McGann’s train fare)
10 October 2013 at 10:52 #18104Am still a bit puzzled about why they would announce there would be an announcement for itunes release on Weds, then postpone to the end of the week. The story’s broken at least twice before, and the Beeb just deny it, so hard to believe the Mirror story’s what triggered it. Why not just go for the end of the week in the first place? Unless of course itunes were doing their usual faffing about and they weren’t ready for downloading by Wed.
The story’s made ripples internationally tho, inc the New York Post – http://nypost.com/2013/10/07/lost-doctor-who-episodes-unearthed/
(VERY perceptively they say “It’s believed the “lost episodes” star the first two doctors, William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton” Ha! Well, yes, surprise us. Maybe they’ve found a previously unknown missing Colin Baker SEASON 😈 )
3 hrs plus is time to show 4/5 episodes (eek!), plus assembling and talk…!
10 October 2013 at 10:18 #18102Final twitter digest for now – Ian Levine has promised to eat a pair of Phil Morris (current episode finder)’s socks if he’s found over 100 epis, and Chris Chapman (DW doc director) has promised to eat a pair of Ian’s. So I’m guessing it’s less than 100!
For people interested in this sort of thing – inc @fatmaninabox @thommck
This is @danmartinuk ‘s recommended people to follow on Twitter http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/35-people-every-doctor-who-fan-should-follow-on-twitter
He’s missed out Frazer above who’s quite fun and AnnekeWills (occasional) – and no doubt several others which the end commentators will put right 😉
10 October 2013 at 09:51 #18099Thanks @Shazzbot for the update. Press call is 3.30-7pm apparently – that’s long time – suggests screening (a lot?) more than 1 episode.
Frazer Hines’ twitter this morning –
In answer to all your Qs…I would love all of Pats to be found as they were such good stories. The one today is The..ugh….just been shot!
So he’s obviously enjoying himself, LOL
Read into that whatever you like 🙂 (ANY recovered Dr and Jamie stories works for me)
@bluesqueakpip – I don’t remember far enough back but it does suggest a find of significance (either quality or quantity. Both…?!)
9 October 2013 at 23:55 #18088@craig @Shazzbot
Haha, well spotted. I did notice she had nearly as much trouble wrestling it on to her face as Harry Towb had with the chair.
9 October 2013 at 23:51 #180879 October 2013 at 23:41 #18085Anneke Wills (@AnnekeWills) tweeted this evening that she’s in central London for a “secret screening”
Frazer Hines (@WhoFrazer) says he’s “oh so pleased and happy” (in response to how he feels about “lost” episodes being found, but not being drawn on numbers or names!)
9 Oct 65 was Mission to the Unknown, followed by Myth Makers
8 – 29 Oct 66 – Tenth Planet
Oct 67, as you point out was the first Yeti adventure
I’ve tried birth dates, death dates… just can’t fathom why they’re chosing NOW to announce. (Not important but I’m intrigued as they’ve presumably had them for a while). Ian Levine’s being almost the soul of discretion, LOL. There’s a definite buzz about it being more than a few, but I’m trying not to think about it. Much 😉
*and breathe!*
Incidentally, just noticed this on the BFI site for November – but it’s sold out already 🙁 (Finger on the pulse, me!)
9 October 2013 at 15:09 #18074Great summing up at the start. Apologies for repeating some of your thoughts in episode 4 thread (been working backwards!)
The Target novel covers are FAB! The FX in the episdoes must have been a massive letdown compared to your imaginations. But that was the 70s. You had to bring a lot of belief-suspension with you. No HD to highlight flaws in set design tho. And the fact they’re on location is nice, not studio bound.
I remember watching this at the time, and I thought Delgado was stunning. Powerful, creepy, intelligent, those eyes (!) and the voice (!!!). A bit Dick Dastardly but with a lot more charm and danger. Couldn’t wait for him to come back.
Brig and the Dr may not have a lot of screen time, but those scenes crackle, and they allow the viewer to see some of the layers in Pertwee’s character (and the Brig for that matter) as they spar with each other.
One thing that’s not been mentioned is the shock effect of the Vworping noise at the start. The Doctor is earthbound remember. That’s a TARDIS noise!! Hadn’t been heard in the show for quite a while. WTF…? (And if that noise is actually because the Dr left the brakes on (ref River) – how come a) the Master’s does it too? b) Civil Servant TimeLord also makes the noise and he doesn’t even have a TARDIS?!)
9 October 2013 at 14:54 #18073Agree with everyone re the potential for a modern take on the Nestene’s affilitaion for plastic in general. Maybe not so much the chairs (you can see where the AG bin idea came from!)
Ha! You lot can laugh but the autons terrified me at the time, and the “ANY plastic” line was as effective as the AG “ANY shadow” (SitL) line. it didn’t help that we also had one of those black plastic inflatable chairs – fortunately I wasn’t watching the episode from it (cue much role playing after of being suffocated by chair! (Not easy – they tend to keep spilling you off)).
The doll was very creepy – this was pre-Chucky but very much part of a spooky voodoo-style tradition from Hammer films, Avengers etc. Funny, it never occurred to me at the time that the massive flaw in this plan is the driver turning down the heat, LOL (I was too busy hiding behind the plastic chair!)
The plastic theme is part of a strong green-environmental trend in Pertwee’s episodes. For all his seeming to be part of the establishment he doesn’t miss an opportunity to have a “dig” at militarist solutions.
And yes, much extra publicity from the HoL debate and the redoubtable Mary Whitehouse. They cottoned on eventually but it took a remarkably long time. Community policing? Don’t remember much of that that in the 70s 😈 Maybe if the police had looked and behaved less like plastic replicants they would have had less of a problem!
9 October 2013 at 14:19 #18072If you want to simplify the Home page –
how about making new pages (a step back from the home page, but have a link from the home page) – for eg the various retrospectives. That would free up a lot of space while still keeping the current topics easily accessible. (I think that may be what @Shazzbot suggested above, in which case apologies for repetition)
Personally I like the news feed at the side, but I could adapt if it was felt to be replaceable!
PS You made this from scratch? Even more impressed with your mightiness 😉
9 October 2013 at 14:14 #18070@Shazzbot
I think you have the general theory ;-). I do remember it led to a bit of a phase with people at school experimenting with plastic bags on the face LOL – great effect!
9 October 2013 at 13:42 #18061Re Troughton episodes – maybe wait a day or 2 more to see what comes up in the press announcement this week before making the final decision?
Don’t have a problem with Tomb otherwise, tho the Mind Robber is a classic. Is the Mind Robber complete?
Link between Terror of the Autons and Tomb – if it’s not been mentioned already, circus strongman Roy Stewart was the controversial Toberman in Tomb.
9 October 2013 at 13:34 #18057Thanks for revisiting this story – had a ball rewatching it. It’s a great intro story for Jo – bit of an airhead, but very sweet, intensely loyal and surprisingly feisty. And never stays put when she’s told to! Had a chuckle when she did the Susan thing of spraining her ankle. (I was a bit in mourning for the departure of Liz Shaw, but you couldn’t not like Jo. And she had a great line in boots 🙂 )
The Master comes across as a brilliant conceptualist but he’s not a detailed planner. He comes up with the big ideas but he’s not interested in filling in all the steps – he needs a PA/assistant/companion. And yes, he’s very much Moriarty to the Doctor. There was a real sense in this of the TL’s being much more powerful (not saying better!) species than us (continuing the thread started in the War Games) – the human race is just one of many “small” species to most of them – they mock the Dr for his attachment to us. Re the Doctor’s reaction at the end – he’s bored on earth, remember. Agree with @bluesqueakpip that the Master’s turnaround is very fast – but if he knew he was trapped then, then they couldn’t do the Dr’s line at the end and the reveal of him having tricked the Master with the wrong circuit.
The third Doctor was having to live life on the slow path. He’s still a Time Lord but they’ve erased his knowledge of how to make a TARDIS. He’s bored out his brain and sitting on a massive pile of frustration which he just about keeps under control – you see him snappy quite a lot, but then will turn on the charm and apologise. He was living with people whom he likes, but who are intellectually and socially on a different plane from him – all his little digs at the Brigadier about when in doubt shoot it (which he usually does – see the lock in this episode), and destroying the bomb’s tech early on. The Master offers a diversion, a challenge and some adventure.
Re the third Doctor’s establishment conformity – only up to a point. He’s playing the game because he has to. UNIT represents his best chance on earth to get access to a science lab and equipment so he can work on the TARDIS. His sole aim is to get it working again. What does he do when he accesses the Master’s TARDIS? Steals the dematerialisation circuit. He’s not interested in stopping the Master, that’s a side effect. He wants the part. He can’t wait to fit it into his own TARDIS. And he’s secretive about it, he doesn’t want anyone to try to stop him. He tells Jo he’s off for a “test flight” but make no mistake, he thinks he’s free again.
The Master is a dilettante. He has the whole universe at his fingertips, but unlike the Dr he doesn’t get excited about just exploring, he wants to manipulate, to see what happens. Like a little boy (think Banks’s Wasp Factory) with an ant colony who experiments on it to see what happens when eg you throw in an anteater. Delgado sells it so well with just a look or a phrase. And a great beard. He’s the suave Victorian villain to Pertwee’s (equally suave when he wants to be) be-caped good guy. In other hands it goes pantomime.
These are thrill-seeking aliens with big brains and short attention spans.
The FX were very much of their time, but were scary watching as a 70s teen. Plastic daffs, ANY plastic (cf not every shadow but ANY shadow), big carnival heads – add those to the exisiting list of shop mannequins, seaweed, foam in general, sink plungers… One thing that occurred to me watching now – if the plastic nose/mouth covers dissolved almost instantly in CO2 from the Dr’s breath and were designed to do so to disappear from the victims’ faces – how come they stayed intact long enough to suffocate??
But overall I’ve enjoyed this rewatch, the direction’s pacy (I don’t mind the jump cuts), the outside locations are good (a quarry 🙂 ) and the dialogue between the Dr/Brig and the Dr/Master, crackles.
Finally – what’s not to like – “You’ll need to chnage the polarity“!! 😆
9 October 2013 at 12:10 #18051I like your theory – still working through it, but, but… I DIDN’T KNOW that QE1 was involved and I didn’t know about the locations being confirmed 🙁 Spoilery?
I tend to think that “the long and bitter war” warrior-Dr is a construct of the GI, after he entered the Dr’s timestream. Maybe it’s the HurtDr’s actions which caused the cracks and all Smith’s stories have been about repairing the damage he did.
Something that just occurred to me in the technical side – if they really have found old episodes, then that opens up what clips they have available for Hartnell and Troughton. We could see an original Yeti yet!
9 October 2013 at 11:52 #18049@Shazzbot
If Deborah and Frazer are involved it suggests some VERY good Troughton indeed 😀 (I daren’t even begin to think about which!)
<ScaryB finding it very hard to concentrate this week! Inner 12 yo is jumping up and down in the corner>
Hope @htpbdet is improving enough to be getting this news. He’s going to be in a worse state than me at the moment, but I can’t think of anything better to speed his recovery.
I’m very confused about why they’ve chosen this week to launch though. Can’t imagine it’s anything to do with leaks, as this particular story’s been leaking for at least a year, and they can’t have “just found them” or “just secured them” if they’re planning to release some for sale this week. And how come they had to postpone the press launch? Seems a bit odd to me.@Bluesqueakpip – as our resident dates expert – anything significant in this week?
Small note of ARSE – this could make the BBC a small fortune. At what point of purchasing DW merch are you considered to be part-owner of the show??? I’m more than happy to buy them, but screening them on national TV would be a nicer birthday pressie – especially since it was the BBC’s lack of care for the show that caused the problem. Maybe they’ll do both.
Oh my giddy aunt, hehe
9 October 2013 at 00:20 #18030Not to mention Hartnell’s little dalliance with an Aztec woman! They called it cocoa back then 😉
@Shazzbot – I love that pic – can see the Airedales backing you up from the undergrowth 😆
@bluesqueakpip Thanks for the link. Dr Who seems to be doing well, even against the Slayer
9 October 2013 at 00:16 #18029Liking the grey a lot. And my education on this site continues 🙂 I have friends who are dyslexic but I’d no idea about white backgrounds. I like the font, size is good, no complaints if bigger
8 October 2013 at 16:19 #17987@craig @phaseshift @Shazzbot
Looks great on phone btw, definitely much bettter.
I’m amused by @phaseshift‘s suggestion of being run by Daleks eg Emperor and special weapons daleks 😉
But there’s plenty to chose from http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek_hierarchy
(And I approve of the added copyright line at the end (did I suggest that, or was I just thinking about it?))
8 October 2013 at 15:54 #17983re the rumours of some missing episodes being found – even the BBC aren’t confirming – just to say that they expect an announcement!
(But I’m getting slightly excited! Anticippointment – haha – exactly)
BBC also announce that they’re upgrading iplayer and making the whole BBC experience more personal. Excuse me for harrumphing, I’d be happy if it works the way it’s supposed to now! (Lost the Name of the Dr after 4 days, when it was supposed to be there for a month 😥 , half the programmes I want to watch from last weekend aren’t even on it yet )
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24442265
Is it just me or is the whole tone a bit patronising? Nice to see DW in the clips of things that people might want to watch on catch-up tho) And are they seriously going to base commission decisions on online audience feedback?! (great idea in theory but potential trolls paradise methinks)
8 October 2013 at 15:45 #17981Ooh, snazzy new design @craig 🙂
(And thanks for posting the above – I was blaming my computer for being glitchy!)
7 October 2013 at 15:55 #17959I think it’s right that the audience is the unpredictable 4th (wall!) party to the equation and we’ll read into things according to our personal long term and immediate experience (as well as our experience of the show).
I don’t subscribe to “the Dr HAS to be asexual” camp but I do think he frequently mis-reads signals – he’s not the same species and he’s considerably older – and with a different lifespan – than the people he hangs out with. He’s not thinking “potential partner”, it’s off his radar so he’s not looking for signals. He’ll also be used to the initial companion being gobsmacked phase – with the TARDIS, the whole “all of space and time” thing, as well as with him – and expects it to pass. Mostly I suspect, he sees companions a bit like special pets, albeit fairly intelligent ones. Much like Moffat said recently that the TARDIS views the Dr.
But I freely admit to liking Ten a LOT so I’ll interpret the evidence from that perspective. If @nick, you’re happier thinking of him as a curmudgon, go right ahead 🙂
I also liked how Martha actually shakes herself up by the end and makes a positive decision to leave and do things for herself. She understands that her feeelings won’t/can’t be reciprocated so she can either mope or get herself sorted.
7 October 2013 at 09:34 #17941Agents of SHIELD – yes, still watchable, still developing. I agree with you re the Skye part – maybe Dushku wasn’t available. Hope all goes well with your bf.
Anyone else watching Orphan Black? Epi 4, and I’m definitely hooked. So many intriguing questions. If they’re the same, why are they all different? eg Alison soccer mom is the antithesis of Sarah in many ways. And is Sarah different again? What is the experiment investigating? They should check out the adoption agency!!!
7 October 2013 at 09:25 #17940Beautifully put.
Though I agree with a bit of @Shazzbot’s post that he uses charm in some ways as a defence – people can be close, but not too close. It’s what I was saying above about depths – there’s a lot of – charming – surface to Ten, and a lot of intelligence and darkness beneath. The darkness, guilt, starts to bubble through the surface by the end of his run.
One other thought about – did he leave too soon? At least this way Tennant’s still (obviously) delighted to be involved in Who-y things like conventions etc, and I get the impression he’s still a fan.
7 October 2013 at 08:53 #17939Troughton ones???!! 😆 Oh my giddy aunt! (Doesn’t say which or how many, or if complete stories or…)
(I know comment not necessary but, but… 😉 )
@janetteb Keep checking in here and we’ll be together in spirit – and you can chuckle in the warm breezes of Sydney as we shiver in UK November 😉
*goes off to lie down for a bit 🙂 *
6 October 2013 at 16:15 #17931@bluesqueakpip – apologies for unintentionally repeating some of your post. I think we agree on charming then? 😉
6 October 2013 at 16:06 #17930Tennant was my way into AG Who, having missed Series 1 for a number of reasons, not least a dose of ARSE – ha! it won’t be the same! Big budget, 2005, they’ll ruin it! 😳 Scheduling was also a problem and I hadn’t hooked into iplayer at that time.
Xmas special with the Sycorax was OK, New Earth I liked a lot, Girl in the Fireplace blew me away and I was hooked by Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel (“Because it hurts” was the line that particularly got me and it’s all down to Tennant’s acting). It was different from the show I loved as a child, and yet it had so much in common with it – Dr Who with a budget, production values and tech know-how to match the ambition. And scripts which were going to different places and trying new things.
Agree with most people that series 4 was a humdinger, and also that a lot of that was down to the chemistry between Tennant and Tate; both characters had bedded in by then, and it was a new dynamic. The show itself probably had a bit more confidence in itself by then and what its range could be.
Absolute standout stories for me – Girl in the Fireplace, Midnight, Blink, SitL/Forest, Human Nature/Family with honourable mentions to Fires of Pompeii, Gridlock and Waters of Mars. I also rather liked Impossible Planet with the classic strange markings appearing on people – be very afraid! I missed School Reunion at the time but caught up with it later and wept buckets!
Tennant is very much my AG Doctor. I loved his take on it – his Doctor was multifaceted, damaged but charming, and hugely charismatic; and his descent into darkness was totally convincing. The best stories were a romp on the surface but with intriguing depths and contemporary resonances. My favourite ever TV show was back – and better than ever 😉
@nick Did he leave too soon? DT has said himself that if he hadn’t left when he did he could see himself never leaving! I wouldn’t be complaining but it’s better to leave em wanting more, in the old showbiz adage.
And so long as Moff does something better with his extra minutes than RTD did in the End of Time, I’ll be happy (The farewell tour was a rare mis-step IMHO, although forgiveable)
6 October 2013 at 15:23 #17927@Shazzbot – get a dogsitter!! 😀
And yes the missing episodes again, as discussed On the Sofa a while back. And the Mirror isn’t exactly the epitome of lets-get-all-the-facts-verified-before-we-publish journalism! More of the “Mention Dr Who and watch the clicks rack up” school. I’ll believe it when I see them (but completely agree with @craig‘s thoughts re commercialism; there’s enough money being made out of DW by the BBC and many many others. This site is all the better for not being one of them)
4 October 2013 at 15:00 #17838@wolfweed @Shazzbot
Re Kate O’Mara – I was with her up till this point – “That’s what the fans are expecting, so that’s what you’ve got to give them”
Sorry, Kate, that’s exactly the reason to give them something different! And I agree with Shazz re casting older women in the “witch” role too often.
Wasn’t a huge fan of Kate O’Mara, which might be down to the direction as much as anything – tho she did do a great Mel impersonation 😈
3 October 2013 at 11:46 #17805@Shazzbot (@Craig)
I was thinking that the current 50th anniv thread is more about the episode itself, and after Janette’s comment, that it might be useful/fun for people to have a separate thread just for what they’re planning to do. I suspect the existing thread is going to get increasingly busy with theories etc and then the analysis after 🙂
It just struck me after seeing several posts in various places recently about events and activities, and I thought it might be easier for eg the newbies in particular to interact on a separate thread re events in the colonies etc as well as UK ones without deluging the programme thread.
It kind of fits On the Sofa, but hey, our fav prog is only 50 once 😉 But whatever people think is appropriate.
3 October 2013 at 08:52 #17802@janetteb @craig (and other mods) @Shazzbot @bluesqueakpip
That’s a good idea re a thread for fan celebrations eg Janette’s idea of Who-themed food could inspire others and maybe bring some suggestions; I’ve noticed a few people, esp US fans, posting on various threads about what they’re planning and looking for people to connect with.
It could be a place for eg the recent posts about a petition to light the Empire State Building in blue on 23rd, which are tending to get a bit lost in On the Sofa, Fan Creativity, News, 50th etc
What do others think?
Re London pub for meet-up – are there any areas with a DW connection (or is that 1 thing too many for the mix?!)
@bluesqueakpip – Your description of Canning Town’s locals is starting to intrigue me 😉 (and Canary Wharf sounds a bit like McCoy’s description of bus stations – full of lost luggage and lost souls! (tho I like your tumbleweed/destroyed souls description))
PS Has anyone heard where the 50th will be screened in London and how to get tickets?
2 October 2013 at 23:23 #17797@Shazzbot
anywhere except where we might find ‘relaxing bankers
Yup, that gets my vote! Somewhere bigger on the inside… 🙂
‘groovy gravy’
I presume that goes with the magic mushrooms?!
2 October 2013 at 22:31 #17792@whisht @Shazzbot @bluesqueakpip
I’d imagine round the Excel is pretty touristy/bland/expensive anyway for pubs. I’m fine so long as I’m near a tube station – otherwise I inevitably end up walking for hours in the wrong direction in London 🙁
@whisht – wholeheartedly agree with your posts – an education and much amusement, thanks @everyone. (The alien with an imaginary human friend was a fav). Which reminds me, I haven’t been to the music thread recently…
2 October 2013 at 20:56 #17783Just let me know where you decide re pubs! I need to get back to the Excel afterwards so anywhere eastish and Thames-ish is good for me, but I don’t mind. Near Jubilee or Central line would be good. Presumably they’ll all be busy on a Fri night…?
re outdoors in November – a couple of Tom Baker scarfs, some hot theories and sharing the airedales should do it 😉
2 October 2013 at 12:16 #17759This is just a test post, copying and pasting from Word
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2 October 2013 at 12:15 #17758@osakahatter and @Shazzbot
Yay! Well done Mr Hatter. And yes, good idea re liveblogging in the Rose & Crown. I can theoretically do it on my phone – may have the hang of it by then. Am sure @craig or someone will have the necessary tech. Then we can be virtually here, and there, and the same time 🙂
PS So long as it isn’t pics Who-forumers begging for food, that’ll be fine 🙂
1 October 2013 at 20:16 #177491 October 2013 at 20:13 #17748I usually work on the basis that when it’s published in a public forum then posts being appropriated for elsewhere is a hazard of the forum, although copyright should still be with the original poster. But completely agree, it’s nice to be asked. And good call on the recent research request @craig
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