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@zeyra:

Rose is my favourite, closely followed by Bill. As for Doomsday – pass the tissues!  The music didn’t help either.

Have you seen the Doctor who concerts? There have been three. One in Cardiff, two in the Royal Albert Hall London. The first two were hosted by David Tennant, and the third by Matt smith. I can’t find out whether there has been one with Peter Capaldi.

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@ichabod:  It makes him a “good man”. 

True, but as he said to Clara – “Goodness, has nothing to do with it.”

Derek Jacobi was a fine Master. He made me shiver.

Puro:  I’m running out of ideas.

And I’ve stopped trying. all will be revealed – eventually. I do enjoy reading all the posts though, and Who knows, one of you might be right.

Missy

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@arch: Why not.

Trouble is, even Davros wouldn’t have been so cheerful about child eating monsters. he’d also have trouble playing the piano. still it’s a theory.

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None of the people I can think of, would be thrilled about children being eaten.

How can Clara be in the vault, the Doctor doesn’t remember her, only her name? As for ME, she is with Clara and neither of them would rejoice in the consuming of children.

The Sherlock touch, was fun -could it be Euros? Not likely.

The photo didn’t remind me of Clara.

Frankly I’m stumped and possibly the Vault is meant to steer us away form what’s really going on.

There were so many interesting things. The bugs reminded me of the cyber-mats. A couple of the passages put me in mind of Mycroft’s house in The Final Problem and of course the piano and  does Nardole know that the Doctor actually enters the vault? More and more, but I cannot think of them at the moment.

Yes, this has been mentioned I believe. Where was the boy’s Father during his Mother’s  illness?

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I’m following the lead of a member who wrote their opinion before reading the rest.

David Suchet was  menacing, simply because most of the time he was so charming and gentle. Beautifully done.

At last Bill has discovered that the Doctor is a Time Lord, but only because he offered the information. She is such a curious young woman as a rule, so why didn’t she ask more about the Doctor’s origins before?  I found that odd and out of character. Also, did she try to stop the Doctor helping her to move in because she didn’t want to share him? Or because, as she says, this was her time – without him.

The creaky floorboards, good one, really scary.

The highlight for me? Telling whoever/whatever, is in the vault that he has a story to tell, and the occupants reaction when he mentions ‘it eats children.’ The joyous rendering of “Pop goes the weasel” was classic, and brought to mind John Simm’s ‘Master.’

Loved the addition of a piano and Nardole’s comments. “you’ll/you never learn.’

The plot is definitely thickening.

Now I must trawl though all your posts.

Missy

 

 

 

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@zeyra;

Well I liked it very much. The words summed up the incredible sadness  felt, for the Doctor – and for Clara of course. The most poignant moment for me, was when the Doctor  takes Clara’s hand from his face, and kisses it.  It was Peter’s idea, or so I read. The tears flowed, I don’t think I have ever cried like that over an episode of Doctor Who.

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@thane15  Very, very rarely but true, he does once in a while.

@whovian87: Hello there *waves* and welcome. Lots to talk and speculate about. enjoy yourself.

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@thane15:   Here’s something: the Bach connection to Sherlock and the “oh, don’t play Bach like that. You don’t get it” says both Euros and Moriarty.

As in, ““Johann Sebastian would be appalled.”

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@ichabod: *snort*  Was it Red or White wine?

Two things, that have been puzzling me. I know I should mention them on the appropriate threads. But here goes anyway.

In Dark Water, when Clara threatens – and indeed does –  to  throw all seven keys into the lava. thus preventing the Doctor ever  entering  the Tardis again.  The fact that he often opened and closed  the door simply by clicking his fingers, seemed to have been missed? Clara was aware of this so I found it rather odd.

Am I the only one who thinks that Bull accepted the Doctor as an  alien rather too easily?  am I being too picky here?

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Obviously I have’t seen this yet, but I wanted to tick the box so I can see how many members participate. I have tried without making a comment, but it didn’t work.

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Thane:

But I wonder about the focus on her colour, her sexuality and her deep voice. On the most horrible threads of the BTLers there’s much talk of her being a ‘man’ which is rude and gross. Mum’s had a word or two and then they attack her!

Still, one has to stand up! If they’re shooting at you, you know you’re doing something right.

Quite right too. I admire your mum. It can get you into a lot of trouble, and sometimes bullying, but what the hell – as the doctor would say.

I wasn’t fond of Amy or Martha, but did quite like Rory, which is not to say I disliked them. Rose, Donna, Bill and Clara suited me better. But the best companion of all and my favourite,  is of course the TARDIS. She’s a bad girl this one, and likes trouble.

 

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I’ll add my two bob’s worth. Companion seems the right word to me, although in Clara’s case she was the Doctor’s carer, said with tongue in cheek of course.

As for the vault and its contents, I’m finished with speculation and shall wait until we find out. It will be interesting to see who came the closest.

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@wolfweed; Thank you for the video. Mr. C is always entertaining.

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@mudlark:   Ah, well thank you for that. Frankly the thought of  having to fix up our TV so that it can stream programmes, fills me with dread. Like you sorting out the computer when there is a problem, is about as far as my expertise stretches. Most things can be sorted simply by re starting the machine. There is always STAN, I suppose similar to Netflix, but even that makes my blood pressure rise.

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@ichabod:  Agreed — Moffat is fully capable of catching us up in a vortex of emotional arcs and call-backs, closing out with a lion’s  roar (“Take THAT!”); which would be, for me, more satisfying still.  Meantime, I’m not going anywhere — as long as I can watch PC and Bill, I’m in for the ride to the — bitter?  Uplifting?  Rip-roaring?  Sad and meditative? — end.

I couldn’t have put it better. I’ll drink to that.

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Very enjoyable, I watched the After show on YT and heard Steven Moffat’s explanation about cutting the Dalek scene.

Still a shame, but I could understand his reasoning.  I do believe they said something about it being on the special Edition? May watch again. he is a delight to watch and listen to, a natural comic.

Thank you again @jimthefish;

Missy

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@mudlark; Ah! I thought, when we lived back home, that you did need a license for each TV. It’s good to hear that I was mistaken.

Whilst I’m here, have responded to my comments about technology? I feel that you did and I didn’t respond. Even clicking on your name and reading all your posts revealed nothing. *scratches head*

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Right. I watched this again last night and realised what it was about the Doctor that was different. He acted towards Bill as if he were her Father. that’s the way it felt to me. I couldn’t understand why  I wanted to hug him, and it was just as I was nodding off the penny dropped. (as Mel/River would have said.)

In fact, I think he’s been acting fatherly ever since he spoke to Bill, completely different to the way he treated Clara.

I’m loving it and so is my OH. (other half)

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Did the quiz and got 9/10 I couldn’t remember the girls name.

I cannot add much more to the comments. I really enjoyed this episode. I found it more serious than the previous episodes and the Doctor …whimsical?  Is that the right word? He was different anyway, more gentle. Liked the reference to the colour of Jesus being a White Wash. Bill making the decision, as did Clara in Kill the Moon and Amy in The Beast Below. I shall watch it again, to see what i might have missed.

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@zeyra: The only one on your is I watch, is Sherlock.

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@jimthefish; How rude of me!  Thank you so much for the info about the After show, I shall have a look.

@ichabod: No, I’m pretty sure it was fro Clara, because he heard her voice.

@winston: You took the words right out of my mouth. Yes I would like to hug him and I felt it even more so in Thin Ice.Thing is, it’s making it harder to say goodbye to him isn’t it. *sniff*

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Mr Murdoch ins’t popular here either. I hope with all my heart that he doesn’t get his claws into the BBC.

@mudlark: Thank you for that.  You have to pay for each TV don’t you?  That would cut people having one in every room. Does the VAN still go round the streets checking everyone?

I still feel that if they brought in the same here, we’d get better TV programmes because the ABC would be able to afford them

Missy

 

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@thane15: No, by all means, it’s a fair comment.

@tardigrade: Thanks for that, but even that information almost lost me. *blushes*

@ichabod: Ads? Humbug! I record everything we want to watch, and if I miss anything I watch iView.

I’ve heard a lot about Netflix and watched Abominable Bride on Stan. It seems to me, that everything is beconming so complicated for one who is technically illiterate. (Me)

janette: You could be right about SM, i never minded when he left threads hanging, and thereby us too. Like some, I got as much fun out of it as he did/does.

It’s been a feast that way, with Moffat, and I agree that he’s done an amazing job — but that’s what you’d expect, from a deep-dyed, true-blooded fan of the show, particularly one who’s proven to be so talented and skilled.

Hear, hear to that. *thumbs up*

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@ichabod:   If liking the guitar, the sunglasses and the tank are a hallmark of a lack of standards then, like you and puro, I am similarly lacking

Count me in too. A  favourite  clip of mine is when he spots Clara (Magicians Apprentice) and plays the first bars of “Pretty Woman.” Pure magic.

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Janette:I think that speaks for the public everywhere in the Western world. What they don’t see, they don’t worry about. Once upon a time, if you had a TV you had to pay for a licence, this enabled the BBC to bring us good (mostly) programmes without adverts. Do you still need a licence?

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Welcome back @craig

@jimthefish:     It’s horses for courses, of course, but personally I prefer SM’s approach. RTD’s stuff was fun and exciting but lacks the depth, nuance and richness of the SM era.

Oh I do agree.  I wonder whether SM will write at least one episode in series 11, after all, he did in previous series.

@ichabod: All this streaming and ipads are beyond me I’m afraid, I don’t even possess a mobile phone.  What if you can’t stream or haven’t got an ipad? Then what?  Wait until you can buy the series?

I’ve also wondered whether we would get better programmes on the ABC here in Australia, if an annual fee was involved? They do a pretty good job, I can’t fault them, but perhaps charging a fee would give them more money to buy more quality programmes. Any opinions?

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@wolfweed: Thank you , what a shame they had to cut the scene. As I keep harping on about, they cut the Dalek scene too, the funniest scene in the episode – well, one of them. I still haven’t seen the article where Steven Moffat explains why they cut it. Could someone steer me in the right direction please?

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So sorry, I meant Rm not Tm? Put it down to these dark glasses i have to wear. *rolls eyes*

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@myth96: I agree about the continuity, it’s astonishing how the writers are able to do this over so many years.

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@blenkinsopthebrave:  Fortunately I’ve never lost a post, but unfortunately I did lose my password? Craig sorted it out for me.

@thane15:  I know that TM has a good reputation as an interviewer, and wasn’t knocking that, just his part in Whovians. Refreshing to hear that I’m not alone in my opinion. 🙂

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@jimthefish: How charming, such fun. thank you for posting.

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@bluesqueakpip:  Or to put it another way, if posters want to say something about every nation having shameful deeds in their past, they can, but they should start the discussion with examples from their own country.

How odd, I could have sworn that I did exactly that? *sigh*

Missy

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@lisa; What a treat!  thank you for posting.

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@pedant: A handy  one for you too, don’t hand out advice or tips, unless they are asked for. Especially when one is stating a fact.

@bluesqueakpip:  The same applies to you. My intention was not to ‘offend’ which I hope @zeyra accepted. Every nation has done something in the past for which they should be ashamed, and mostly are. I can’t see why the deed should  be celebrated. An example is Australia Day, when my people took the land from the native population.

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@jimthefish:

Oh dear, I didn’t mean Christel  Dee, I meant Rove McManus – I thought he was the presenter?? He introduces it and sits in the centre  asking questions.

I finally found the self portrait of Van Gogh, but only after I paused the scene with the Book, and pressed fast forward.

Such a shame, their are so many posts that I’d love to read, but simply can’t. It would take me all day.

I enjoyed Smile, very clever, but not as much as The Pilot.

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Dreadful state of affairs.

@myth96: Yes, that is mine too. wonderful acting, camera work, special effects and, of course, writing.

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Mmm! What  bastion of civilisation celebrates Bastille Day , when innocent people were slaughtered along with the guilty.

Please don’t take offense @zeyra, every country was uncivilised at some time or other.

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@geoffers:  I didn’t think that for a moment, it’s obvious that you admire PC as a n actor. 🙂  I cannot agree about Steven Moffat however, but that is what this forum is for, listening to others opinions, even if/when we don’t agree.

@thane15: What is next indeed – exciting innit!

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@zeyra: I can understand your preference for David Tennant, rather cute I think 🙂 I prefer  Mr. Capaldi because he is older, wiser and has a face that is lived in. *winks*

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@pedant: Prototype vashta nerada 😎🚀🏥🍠💀

Such a surprise, I actually thought exactly the same as you, the moment I saw them. I wonder if it was deliberate on the writers part?

@morpho: A valid point. It would be much better.

@pufferfish:  In the Forest of the Night, is not a favorite of mine either. Like you I don’t hat it, but I agree, Smile is better.

@mudlark: It’s fortunately that I can watch this episode again, because I didn’t spot anything to do with VanGogh (my favourite painter btw) and the wheat fields certainly did not make me think of him.

@geoffers: I would think that the round badges would stick on anything, even bare skin.

All your posts are thought provoking, and I cannot think of anything to add. As I’ve said, I do not analyse, don’t know how. So, my contribution is simple I thoroughly enjoyed Smile, can’t wait to watch it again, and roll on next week. As yet I haven’t watched the Whovian discussion. Last week I thought the presenter was rather silly and not a true DW fan. He was just doing a job. That was my impression anyway.

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@mudlark:

Thank you for your encouragement, I shall indeed hang in there. They are improving every day – as long as i wear dark glasses whilst on this machine. With me it is the second eye which has given me most trouble. I’ve made a note of the drops mentioned by you.

Missy

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@geoffers:

A member (sorry can’t remember who) said that they thought that PC tried to hard, at least to start with. I don’t agree, he was right into the part from the very first moment you met him, he just clicked. Although I liked MS ( I liked all of them) it was he, in my opinion, who was trying too hard at first. I was astonished that you didn’t think these episodes ‘didn’t hold up’ compared to MS’s series, but then we are all entitled to our opinions on here. 🙂

Puro and Thane.: Actually, I’m English by birth,  just been here a very long time. but I take your comment as a compliment. *very big smile*

@thane15:   Puro :             “Capaldi possesses a quality which enables him to enter wretched depths of the divine madness as well as triumphant redemption like no other -for me. He has that presence or ‘Parousia.’ Not to get too biblical: “the whole creation groaneth in travail.”

My sentiments exactly, and I too am loving every minute of it.

@redlemons:    “it’s good to know that PC is a fan and not a student, just like me.”

And me.

@jimthefish: Clever, thank you for that.

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Broadchurch began well, but ended in a whimper. I was left waiting   for the second shoe to fall, but it didn’t. If you know what I mean.

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Thane:

Thank you so much for responding, I was beginning to think that I was invisible – only joking. I didn’t notice any comment from @ichabod, but then there were so many posts, and I’m not on here every day, that I tried to speed read. Obviously NOT a good idea as I missed it. Yes, indeed, it’s a brilliant plot and it seems as though everyone of us likes it. No, I haven’t seen the next one it’s on tonight, my recorder is all set up to receive it, and the chat thingy afterwards. Don’t you think that the panel, the presenter in particular, is a little silly?  Or is it just me? I’d love to know what the gold spirals are all about, perhaps nothing? Simply a red herring?

Thank you again,

Missy

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@craig: First of all, thank you for the video, I’ve just watched it.

One hopes that the young person who was being bullied is not on this forum and has reported it to those in charge. I’ve never seen Steven Moffat so angry and agree with everything he said. Let’s also hope that the bully was watching and feels heartily ashamed of themselves. Loved the way he described DW as not resembling anything else but itself, and thinking how much better a film he was watching, would have been if the Doctor turned up with the Tardis.

Peter’s comment that he was a fan, but not a student is exactly right, from my point of view, and ‘watch out” when you tread on a creaky floorboard, was food for thought. I’ll keep my eyes open for that one.

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@mudlark:

Yes I too have dry eye syndrome – badly.  Thing is, now it’s even worse, unless I use drops and wear dark glasses whilst on the computer. The drops are OPTIVE. With luck, things should improve with time.

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@zeyra: Hello there and welcome. *waves*

Your favourite Doctor was Matt smith then? Mine is Peter Capaldi.  Although all of them since 2005 were outstanding, PC, in my opinion, is the best.

I too am a Sherlockian, and as Puro said, we have got a thread about the show.

Your English is very good.

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As no one has come up with an idea about what the GOLD SPIRALS were under the glass dome, or a theory about the BIRD – other than a Raven – wrong shape – I tried asking google.  No luck.

Ashes to Ashes was well worth watching.

Perhaps the Master’s ring is in the vault – who knows?

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@severusoswald: Yes it was. John Simm. More skulduggery from Mr. M.

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@kharis: Oh lawks, I hope not. It seems, reading some of the comments, that there is bit of skulduggery  afoot.

I wonder if Steven Moffat will write the odd episode in series 11?  After all, he did when Russel T. Davies was in charge. here’s hoping.

Missy

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