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30 May 2017 at 06:03 #58248
@fatmaninabox: We have not met, but welcome back anyway.
Missy
30 May 2017 at 05:59 #58247Perhaps as the only way he could regain his sight, would be to regenerate – and perhaps he didn’t want to yet?
Just a thought.
Missy
28 May 2017 at 05:57 #58134That’s a good reminder to never forget the Daleks! They do seem to be at least trying to keep tabs on the Doctor, and told Missy the Doctor had been on Darillium.
Glad you mentioned that. I have often wondered how Missy got away from Skaro and the Daleks? Then again, as I said, it might be the Silence, they wouldn’t be fond of the Doctor after Day of the Moon, and the Time Lords too, as @missrori suggested he did kill one of them after all.
Oh for crying out loud, it could be anyone!
Missy
28 May 2017 at 05:43 #58133I haven’t seen it yet either, so i shall have some trawling to do this week.
Haven’t read any of your posts either for obvious reasons. 🙂
Missy
27 May 2017 at 05:16 #58066@pitircapaldi: Hello there. Welcome.
Missy
26 May 2017 at 12:11 #58048Thank you, I shall keep my eyes peeled. Sad about River not making it for a second series, it’s good. I didn’t care for Anne of green Gables when younger or Alice in Wonderland, for that matter. But I’ll have a look should it come over here.
The Halcyon wasn’t a soap opera. I asked my OH what he thought. He thinks that if it had run more episodes, it might have ended up as one – Downton Abbey did. It spanned just about every human emotion, + MI5, spies, murder (accidental) and WW2 bombing. We thoroughly enjoyed it. Steven Macintosh was a bonus.
26 May 2017 at 12:00 #58047@thane15:
Oh well done on your A+ AND entry into a competition. I was good at English Lit at school, but never had an essay entered in anything. *sigh*
My thought at the moment is that Capaldi can now possibly regenerate into a new Doctor, but can continue living in the alien reality – and be back with River (after The Library).
There could then be an episode or two with the new Doctor in the real world, and Capaldi Doc in the matrix world, working together at the series finish, or at Christmas. That’s my bonkers for tonight.
Love the idea , as long as we get to see River and CapDoc.
Sometimes I wonder why a person like me who is so baffled by timey-wimey stuff loves a show about time travel.
Because, it’s magical, mysterious, thought provoking, completely different from any other SciFi series or films, beautifully written (most of the time) wonderful music, camera work, special effects – and last but not least, brilliant actors and actresses. Has that answered your question? *face splitting smile*
@thane15: As Puro.
I could watch that mans expression all evening. There are even times when I feel that he doesn’t need lines at all, just watch his face. Peter Capaldi going to be a great loss for me, the only thing that will help that loss, is Kris Marshall taking over. Many don’t agree with me I know, but he’s perfect, and even ginger.
Does anyone wonder if perhaps The Silence is running the Monks?
Missy
25 May 2017 at 06:00 #58010@countscarlioni: Who is employing the Monks?
I dare say we shall find out. Perhaps the Time Lords? No, that’s too bonkers. Daleks?
Missy
25 May 2017 at 05:55 #58009Anyone watch The Halcyon? And River?
Missy
25 May 2017 at 05:49 #5800824 May 2017 at 10:13 #57975@morpho;
Just in case you feel that I was being flippant – I wasn’t. And yes, I would feel the same, you cannot have one rule for one religion and not the other. Please believe me when I say – and I mean this kindly – I cannot get into SM’s head, but I truly don’t think he was baiting anyone. Politics has been dealt with (Oxygen) so why not religion? You friends should try not to take it personally, I’ve seen worse said in the media.
Missy
24 May 2017 at 05:18 #57972@thane15: Wonderful isn’t it, sums our Doctor up completely. Then there is this one from the same episode.
He never raised his voice. That was the worst thing… the fury of the Time Lord… and then we discovered why. Why this Doctor, who had fought with gods and demons, why he had run away from us and hidden. He was being kind…
Superb piece of writing – both episodes – and not by SM either, but by Paul Cornell. He also wrote Father’s Day.
@morpho: I think many people are nowadays – atheists I mean. But I can’t agree that SM is baiting anyone. It’s a shame if your friends feel that he is.Even if they were right, surely God (if there is one) has a sense of humour? He supposedly invented the human race, so he’d need one.
Missy
24 May 2017 at 04:54 #57971@thane15: Thane typing for Puro (we are the Hybrid -Puro is my mum. She can’t write less than a 1000 words)
Yes, I’d noticed! (said with affection)
@ichabod; Yes — you couldn’t miss the shabbiness of the jacket, compared to the swashbuckling dark red velvet one . . . or even the Regency black. A nice, telling detail.
I too wondered about the jacket. Very smart, even though a shade dusty.
@thane15 wherever I look on the youtube arena a really big hate-group for Moffat. I find this odd.
@ichabod; I find it pretty much batshit-crazy, and rooted in a weird, neurotically jealous, possessiveness about the show. Moffat loves taking risks; sometimes he over-reaches. Given the kind of show writing we normally see in the US on television, by comparison Moffat is a galloping genius, flops and all. [This is changing a bit with the creation of original content on Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, etc., and occasionally HBO.] It’s like the knee-jerk rantings of cliques of mean girls in High School against a more intelligent girl, only it’s mean boys as well — baffling.
Jealousy is definitely at the heart of it. I doubt that SM will lose any sleep over it.
Missy
24 May 2017 at 04:36 #57970@pedant: Interesting post. thank you for that.
A simm-ulation. ahahaha hahahahaha ahahahaha. aha.
Oh very droll. *chuckles*
@missrori; As many are now asking elsewhere, how does the main plot of “The Return of Doctor Mysterio” fit into this timeline? If the execution is happening shortly after the Doctor bade goodbye to River, and this is the start of his and Nardole’s team effort, how do they fit in the undoing of Harmony Shoal with his vault duties, especially since his grief over River still seems fresh at this point? I say main plot because the Doctor’s encounters with young Grant seem to take place between “Hell Bent” and THORS, given the Doctor’s wardrobe is his “scruffy” look in those scenes. The expanded universe has set quite a few comics between those two stories, too.
Like most of us, I can’t answer that. All I can do is quote the Doctor; “I’m the Doctor, accept it.”
<span class=”useratname”>@jimthefish: I had to smile at your mention of the Da Vinci Code. It reminded me of SM’s comment that it was fun. One wonders how Dan Brown would feel about that?</span>
Missy
<div class=”bbp-author-role”></div>24 May 2017 at 04:12 #57969Puro: Thank for that explanation, I’d never heard of a checksum.
Nope, I cannot agree. I was fascinated. Apart from Heaven Sent, this is the only episode that I have watched every night since it aired – and probably will watch again tonight.
@thane15: It took a turn for the worst when Capaldi arrived and Moffat took a different path and many viewers said “he’s ruined our precious show”. Thing is, it’s not theirs! It belongs to the writer and we have the privilege of viewing; critiquing it and coming up with our own completely different text (not fan fic but that’s just me: fan fic’s not my thing).
Spotonski, That’s exactly the way I see it. And yes, I did watch the After Show on YT.
@bendubz11: How did Nardole get a copy of Rover’s diary? It’s implied that River gave it to him, but that wouldn’t fit as she took it with her to the Library.
I too wondered about that and haven’t a clue. I dare say that Mr. M has though. *winks*
@steffstaff: Hello there. *waves vigorously*
@wolfweed: Hmm. Benedict looks nothing like his painting on the wall of the Vatican does he. *winks*
Puro: I almost expected Brian Cox to have a cameo.
Good point, he did have one in The Power of Three.
Missy
24 May 2017 at 02:38 #57965<span class=”useratname”>@craig</span>Emperor: Thank you for this.
The spirit of the Blitz – I like it. Delighted that it is still alive and well.
@pedant: Unable to read the first page, I’d need a magnifying glass. Shame, but thank you anyway. He wasn’t the best JB for me, Timothy Dalton was, but he was definitely the funniest.
Missy
23 May 2017 at 05:26 #57906@morpho: He wasn’t doing any such thing, at least, not to me he wasn’t.
@geoffers: i also haven’t seen anyone reference this aspect of the episode, but i loved the misdirection in the beginning, where we are led to believe that the doctor is the one who has been sentenced to death (and missy the executioner). the whole time, i was wondering if capdoc was blind, and just doing a tremendous job of pretending to be able to see!
tricksy moff…I knew he wasn’t blind, because it stated on the screen A long time ago. However, just for a second I did wonder who was the executioner.
@kharis: Murray Gold knocked it out the park again. He will go down as a great composer of our time someday. Much Like John Williams because his focus is soundtracks instead of something more posh he often isn’t given the credit and fame he deserves.
I’ve said this before, the man should get an award. His musical score is superb. Did you know he also wrote the music for Hawking??
Missy
23 May 2017 at 05:19 #57904@morpho: He wasn’t doing any such thing, at least, not to me he wasn’t.
@geoffers: i also haven’t seen anyone reference this aspect of the episode, but i loved the misdirection in the beginning, where we are led to believe that the doctor is the one who has been sentenced to death (and missy the executioner). the whole time, i was wondering if capdoc was blind, and just doing a tremendous job of pretending to be able to see!
tricksy moff…I knew he wasn’t blind, because it stated on the screen A long time ago. However, just for a second I did wonder who was the executioner.
Missy
23 May 2017 at 05:10 #57903Puro: Keep from me the blame for lying, for wronging my friend…the future has arrived and I am ashamed of the depth of my debt (Pindar: paraphrased).
Beautifully said, thank you. I know that that following hasn’t the same sentiments, but it’s stuck, in mind as summing up the Doctor.
” He’s like fire, and ice and rage….he’s like night and the storm in the heart of the sun…he’s ancient and forever…he burns at the centre of time and sees the turn of the Universe………and he’s wonderful.” Family of Blood.
Missy
23 May 2017 at 04:57 #57901Seconded.
Missy
23 May 2017 at 04:47 #57899@janetteb; Thank you for that. I should have remembered, loved that show. also Blake’s Seven. Orac was great.
Puro> Now I get it! Thing is, I naturally thought that everyone watched the trailers, but obviously not.
Odd though, I could swear that The Pope was mentioned earlier? Thank you for your tactful and funny reply. In future i shall read the rules – all of themMissy
22 May 2017 at 10:00 #57842Good grief! I’ve counted around 95 posts on my emails re the above! No time today, but I will say this for now.
What a belter! Steven Moffat at his best. I believe it was Ichabod who quothed, “GO MAN, GO.” Well, he certainly went didn’t he! Wonderful stuff.
Laters.Missy
21 May 2017 at 05:20 #57757@thane15: Just saw your post on my emails.
Really? I wouldn’t get up at that time anyway – but thank you very much for telling me. Yet another long trawl through the posts tomorrow. *sigh*
Missy
21 May 2017 at 05:16 #57756That is sad. At least he didn’t die before seeing just how far Doctor Who progressed.
Missy
21 May 2017 at 05:10 #57754(Puro). Stop trying to blind me with science! *huge grin*
Gin and tonic, my favourite tipple, well, that and Champagne – or what passes as same. You? Hide behind the sofa? Never!
@pedant: The ‘blue object’ mentioned by me, is in the flippin’ trailer. How can it be a spoiler? Or do you mean that I shouldn’t mention it anyway? Sounds a bit bonkers to me. Still, if them’s the rules.
@wolfweed: Moira means destiny/fate, btw…..
As @thane15 put it – Ooh, I like that!
@mudlark: By George, you’ve got it! Quite right.
@mirime; And yes, I’m dreading the final episode.
It’s daft really, you’d think the man was going to die – he is in a way – and I’m not a happy bunny.
@ichabod: Go, man, GO!
I’ll drink to that – gin and tonic anyone? Where or what is Khaza’dum,?
@gamergirlavatar: You most definitely are NOT the only one with the jitters. It isn’t fair of us really, Chris Chibnall might do an excellent job, along with any other writers who want to have a go. SM might also write the odd episode, you can’t keep a good man down- can you? Of course, my major worry is who is the next doctor.
Missy
21 May 2017 at 04:37 #57750This is so frustrating! I cannot read the posts because we haven’t seen it yet! Obviously you get it on Saturdays.
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:54 #57681Sorry just thought of something. He’s he’s got River’s diary! Now how about that for intriguing?
Thought I’d mention it.
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:41 #57680@mirime: Heh, heh, so did I once, but then I discovered actors whom I preferred, Peter Capaldi amongst them.
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:35 #57679@janetteb I am thinking that the Doctor’s promise may be about more than just watching the vault. If his promise was to watch over Bill (as I speculated somewhere probably on another thread), then he is free to travel provided she is with him.
You could be right on the money there. Exciting isn’t it, all this speculation.
As for : Chris is sticking with a team he’s got used to working with on Broadchurch.”
Agh. My heart sinks . . quoth @ichabod.
Being the coward I, when it comes to Peter Capaldi leaving, I prefer not to think about it. does anyone else dread the final episode, be it 13 or Christmas special?
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:26 #57678Thane and Puro Of course there is. Secret Services are exactly that – secret.
@thane15: Don’t be concerned, it’s all been said before since my meeting ages ago. She wasn’t a ‘mate’ by the way, just someone I was introduced to at a friends house over 10 years ago. She’d retired from the job ( not an agent btw) about the same amount of years. I did ask if I could tell friends about our conversation, and she said yes, none of it was classified. Funnily enough we watched a film/series a few years ago (can’t remember what) where a women barged into a house accompanied by several uniformed men. She told the occupants not to worry ‘the dogs’ would clear things up, it was time they got an outing- or words to that affect. They were Intelligence officers.
I appreciate your warning just the same.
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:11 #57676Again, I shall see what I can find. Possibly they exist on YT.
Speaking of which. yesterday I watched PC being interviewed on stage at the Minneapolis Comic com. What a dear man he is. They invited two young boys (9-12 I’d say) on stage, both dressed as Peter’s Doctor, and What a time they had. PC is very funny and interviews well. he spent most of the time laughing.
Missy
20 May 2017 at 06:02 #57675@wolfweed: Thanks for that. I am always listening to audio books, if not them, Radio 4 Extra. I shall have a trawl at my library.
@missrori: I’ve never heard of them.
@ichabod: Yes, I do know what you mean, and he does do that! As martin Freeman said about Sherlock, everything is going along nice and evenly, then WHAM you get a shock! I am really looking forward to this episode because, as you say, Mr. C. will be able to handle it beautifully, remembering his speech on War, in Zygon Inversion .
Thank you @missrori
Missy
19 May 2017 at 11:17 #57653I saw it. What a hoot. I do wish that the human race wouldn’t chant, it’s very annoying.
Thank you.
Missy
19 May 2017 at 11:10 #57652My goodness, you have gone into this haven’t you. Wonderful imagination. Thanks for that.
Missy
19 May 2017 at 10:48 #57651A little story to make you smile – well, some of you.
We were watching Foyles’ War the other night, when all of a sudden I shrieked “There’s the Tardis!”
Recovering from the unexpected decibels, my OH said “Where?” I paused the scene and there she was, all blue and shiny, with “Pull to open” on her door, just standing on a corner. What an unexpected treat. One assumes that she was borrowed from the BBC workshop.
Missy
19 May 2017 at 10:40 #57650Michelle Gomez, is reported as saying that she is leaving the show. Two of her friends are leaving , so she will too.
She is returning in the next episode, Extremis, and again for the finale, but after that Missy is no more.
Gomez confirmed that she is exiting the show along with star Peter Capaldi and showrunner Steven Moffat, because she can’t see her character interacting with any Doctor other than Peter’s.
She told Digital Spy: ‘My guys, my lads, Missy’s men – they’re all moving! Steven writes to amazingly for me – it’s like he’s got my voice in his head, and I don’t know how that would be, moving forward.’
But she admitted that she might come to regret her decision.
She went on: ‘I’m probably shooting myself in the foot here. This time next year, I’ll be like, “Why did I say that?! I’ll work for anybody!’ – but I don’t know how I’d feel about being The Master to any other Doctor, because I feel like I’m part of Peter’s time.’
However she gave Missy fans some hope by not totally ruling out a return.
19 May 2017 at 10:31 #57649@mirime: and @Thane
Not as ridiculous as you think.
In one episode, you may remember a cat escaping from a house in the rain, and the team had to use a hair dryer on it? That really happened. A fair while ago I was talking to a woman who had worked for M15 in the distant past, she told me that story was true. A lot of Spooks was reasonably authentic, except that the Agents didn’t kill people, they sent in what they called the ‘dogs’ to do that – if necessary. The BBC script writers merely gave it a tweak here and there. The series was watched by many members of M15.
I always thought Lucas to be weak – not the actor’s fault, the script.
It is possible that Missy could restore the Doctor’s sight. Remember in the Magicians Apprentice, when he meets Davros? He uses a little of his regeneration to help Davros – saying he’d probably lose an arm or leg sometime in the future. If he can do it, so can Missy.
I still think that John Simm is in the Vault.
Missy
18 May 2017 at 03:55 #57612Exactly what I meant. it’s what I feel I would have done and still would, but one has to be in that situation to really know.
Missy
18 May 2017 at 03:50 #57610I never watched Twilight – Vampires are too old hat for me, although I did enjoy Hammer’s take on them – Christopher Lee as Dracula – I don’t like Rob Pattinson either. Sorry Puro.
This has already been mentioned I think. Merlin? Now that was fun, as was Harry Potter.
Missy
18 May 2017 at 03:31 #57609>@blenkinsopthebrave: Love the video – thank you!
@lisa: Interesting and could explain why he wears his glasses a lot.
>@janetteb: Agree with @mudlark that the Doctor does not appear to be telling Nardole the truth about anything and may well be exaggerating his blindness. I wonder how much Nardole really knows about the Doctor.
>Good point. As the Doc said when he asks Nardole “What do you want from me?”
<Nardole: “The truth!”
“>Doc: ” Don’t be unreasonable.”
@alexwho: Anything is possible, but I keep remembering the prisoner’s reaction to children being eaten? probably means nothing at all.@missrori; Also — why would the Valeyard have the same face as Twelve?
Perhaps for the same reason as given in Fires of Pompeii?
Puro. ..somehow, Moffat always manages to confound us all. And that is why I will miss him.I second that. Thane thirds it.And I fourth it! Everyone have faith in the Master, aka Steven Moffat!
@thane15: Loved spooks – most of it at any rate. Harry was my favourite, closely followed by Tom Quin. Lucas was the character I liked the least. Hermione Norris was brilliant. I’ve all 10 series.
@the12thdoctor: So sad the doctor is now blind.
Ah! But is he?
Missy
17 May 2017 at 05:42 #57585@wolfweed: How does Dr Who manage to be so topical? Does it have crystal balls?
Did you ever watch Spooks? They managed to do the same thing. it was quite frightening at times, just how c lose they got to real events – before they happened.
@mudlark: I only noticed the skull when I watched the episode again.
@pedant: I wonder if the Doc is fully aware of something unavoidable steaming down the road towards him…The look on his face – just for an instant – when he mentions regeneration to Bill. Seems likely to me. The end is nigh, his end at any rate.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 05:25 #57584@zeyra: Sorry, my post should have read: The only one on your list I watch, is Sherlock. *blushes*
Missy
17 May 2017 at 05:22 #57582@thane15: Being biased, I couldn’t agree with you more – or is it more with you. There must be plenty of actors who could have played that episode, but none would have been as convincing and as heart breaking as Peter Capaldi. But then we shall never know.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 05:10 #57580@pedant: Re: This made me laugh.
Good one, thank you. Tom Baker was superb as the Doctor, but Peter Capaldi (in my opinion) is outstanding.
Let’s face it, most of the Doctors were great.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 05:01 #57579@conchobarre: I wouldn’t entrenched anywhere else – would you? What a name, I bet she made it up, especially the
Guacamole. * giggle*
Missy
17 May 2017 at 04:50 #57578So very sad. Catweazle was wonderful. Thanks for news about DT and Rose on audio. I listen to a lot of these.
I’ll take a look at You Tube, they may have ANA thingy.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 04:47 #57577@alexwho: For my money, all of them are even better at a second, third and fourth viewing.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 04:46 #57576@thane15: So sorry, I meant to answer your pst to me – I forgot, but now I’ve remembered. *grin*
I think that Bill is definitely curious but knows when to stop? Last week, she said “you’ve been holding out on me, do you have, like, magic whaling powers? and then immediately after says, “or is that a personal question?” I believe she’s curious and self aware but also, considering her own situation, can be necessarily cautious and respectful. She knows where to draw the line at ‘too many questions’ in my opinion.
You are probably right, I just judged her by what I would have done in her place. Wanting to know who and what he was, his planet, why he’s called a Time Lord etcetera. But then again, perhaps in her situation and her age, I wouldn’t have – who nose.
Missy
17 May 2017 at 03:35 #57574Finally I can have some time on this forum! Real life gives me the pip sometimes.
What a change this episode was, as well as a shock. I haven’t read all your posts, so many, but I shall attempt the task as soon as I can.
My OH didn’t care for Oxygen, in particular the ‘corpse suits.’ To his mind they were too amateurish. Nevertheless, although I see what he means, I was carried away by the plot, as I was by Jamie Mathieson’s, Flat Line and Mummy on the Orient Express, although I didn’t enjoy The girl who Died. The Doctor’s blindness is intriguing, and I wonder if it means a partial regeneration to restore his sight?
All in all, I enjoyed this episode and look forward to reading all your comments.
Missy
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