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  • #63305

    @craig @jimthefish

    There is an intruder on the sofa.

    #63300

    *sneaks in*

    *posts link*

    *runs away*

    #63282

    @xad4 @thane16

    Indeed – that is very early.

    Those of you who have followed the Dyfi Ospreys may like to know that they are running their annual camera appeal. It’s costs £20,000 a year to keep the camera running, so if you have some spare shekels to chuck in the pot it will be well spent. If you are a UK tax payer you can Gift Aid it.

    #63198

    @ucragnian

    Try hitting something with a hammer without blinking.

    #63197

    Karen Gillan, director. Really nice interview.

    #63164

    @thane16

    Shine On You Crazy Diamond has been in my collection for…..about 35 years. 😉

    #63161

    @thane16

    Born in Glasgow, but from Blyth, Northumberland.

    #63160

    @blenkinsopthebrave @thewatcher

    It has been established that Doctors lose memories of future Doctors (ref: Day of the Doctor) and that even future doctors can bury the memory of entire regenerations (ref: War Doctor). This is canon.

    @bluesqueakpip @tardis123

    They have Clara’s memories of him, including when, how and why he lost his memories of her. With 5bn years of technological advancement it is fairly unsurprising that Testimony can recreate the “negatives” of a persons memory, and work out a away to reverse the polarity(tm) of the neural blocker.

     

    #63017

    Genuinely saddened by the death of Dolores O’Riordan. 46 is no fucking age. Anglo-American pop and rock, but with a unwavering Irish accent.

    Cute teen-angst love songs:

    Or,  Zombie was a real raw, angry response to the Warrington bombing.She was 23 hen she sang it on Letterman:

    #63014

    To those who followed the long-running Buffy threads and blogs, Elize Dushku needs no introduction. But she was also a child star before that. She posted this today. It is about the most horrific thing you will read any time soon.

    https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

    #62965

    @ichabod @mudlark

    They did what they could in the time given, but I wish the touch had been a bit lighter.

    But my point is that the touch was light (and the “smacked bottom” straight out of canon – a thing which sparked a million slash fictions, apparently). The other stuff – whether casually assuming no Polly meant no cleaning, or the key to the “women are glass” exchange being that the Captain and Doctor 1 are so confident of their world view that they had absolutely no response but “Good Lord!” are really quite gentle. It’s just Moffat not wasting words again.

    12 got there slowly, over many years, and knows the road he travelled. Bill was born there. Even had the captain been a fan of Wells and Verne, he would have had absolutely no concept of social revolution that was to come. In his world, women do not have the vote. And as far as we know, D1’s first exposure to Earth was in the East End of London, about as hardcore as it gets in a country where, until shockingly recently, spousal violence would be logged by the cops as a “domestic dispute”….and ignored.

    It didn’t seem funny, to me. It seemed absurd. I think that is an important distinction.

    And that’s before you start to consider class relations….

    #62961

    @mudlark

    but she nevertheless irritated me considerably; and though Sarah Jane was a further step in the right direction, I  still wasn’t wildly impressed.

    But is that not just your – avowed – privilege speaking? As small a step as it was, the girls on the council estate where I grew up – few of whom would end up at the Girl’s Grammar – were given a role model in Sarah Jane and how sometimes it’s right to talk back to people.

    For, as pal of mine notes, representation matters:

    #62958

    @thane16 @mudlark

    FWIW, I’m not at all convinced that the sexism was over-egged. I just think it seems that way because, outside the troll-o-sphere, is has become as entirely alien to us as driving without a seat belt, smoking at the work desk or casually referring to the late shop, run by those nice brown people, as the “Paki shop”.

    Despite being brought to life by “the posh wog and the pushy Jewish bird” (to quote AAISAT), it reflected the manners and mores of its time, and only gradually pushed at the boundaries. It wasn’t really until Jo Grant and then, obviously, Sarah Jane Smith, that this started to get a truly firm kicking.

    (This, Thane, is why you should not have turned your nose up at Life on Mars/ Ashes to Ashes. It was about exactly this sort of thing)

    #62957

    @whisht

    Twice Upon a Time (but again, still not finding anything just right).

    That’s because I already played the top trump (in the old, nice, sense of “trump”).

    #62890

    @craig

    Bearing in mind what usually happens at this time of year, don’t forget to put a shilling in the meter…

    #62885

    @ollie14

    That’s exactly how I read it. Testimony seems to have take the choice not to intervene because the change was not their error. Also, given the circumstances, they will quite likely catch up with him soon enough. Although the overall casualty rate in WW1 was about 5%, the rate among junior officers was horrific.

    #62871

    @cathannabel

    Thanks to all of you who have commented here – [pedants] remarks struck me particularly forcefully.

    That’s very kind.

    @thane16

    Moffat was holding these characters:  the new Doctor, the present Doctor, the first Doctor and the soldier, very gently in his hands, shaping and highlighting, forming and processing. It was a sight to see.

    This, exactly. Everything else is fluff. It was a story of good people trying to do the right thing (even Rusty, in his own perverted way) as the common soldiers choose to do the right thing.

    “Me too!”; “Good Lord!” A soldier from fin de siecle Europe and the old traveler, exposed to post-War manners and mores and with a granddaughter in an East End school where the cane would still be in regular use, being given a gentle – but firm – attitude adjuster by Bill, breezing confidently past the Doctor’s (her Doctor’s) mortification. And taking it like the thoroughly decent chaps that they are. A brilliant joke, well told.

    BTW, I don’t think overly complex explanations of Bill not knowing Heather’s whereabouts are needed. We know Bill is real because her memories are her story, and we are all stories in the end.

     

    #62829

    @scaryb

    How is she travelling with puddlegirl Heather?

    I would imagine they had a long full life of hot lesbo action and universe exploration, until one – or both – of them died and Bill ended up part of Testimony. I suppose that since she seems unsure of Heather’s fate, that implies that Bill died before Heather, or that for some reason Heather wasn’t eligible for Testimony (too alienated?).

    #62828

    Since nobody else is going to do it…

    The same chord structure as Canon in D, fact fans, and about the historical events depicted in TUAT:

    #62788

    @nerys

    Have you not seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo ?

    The numbers weren’t changed because The War Doctor did not consider himself worthy of the lineage.

    #62773

    Moffat’s writing has been suffused with character; character is what he does. Plot is just what they ride on. He gets, like Whedon and disconcertingly few others, that when things happen to a character then that character is changed and that to change a character, things need to happen to them.

    But his theme, returned to time and again from Press Gang on is how utterly devastating being lonely is even when, sometimes, there are things that we must face alone. And that it is our friends, our fellow travellers, our companions that give the strength to face that, in all their infuriating, bloody-minded and contradictory ways and their brass-bound audacity to talk back to us, to speak truth to our power.

    “I’m here, but you don’t see me” said Bill to the Doctor, who said it to Clara. But that formula can be transformed more than one way. You don’t see me, but I am here. The Doctor, wished back to life in The Doctor Falls not just by Amy this time, but by all of those he travelled with, because every one left a mark on him.

    That’s the other thing he does, of course. Revisits ideas when he sees more to do with them, or another angle to show. Or shows us the light side of the dark. The Nethersphere: stealing people at the point of death to use as a slave army; Testimony: taking people and – for one vital moment – giving them a damned good listening to.

    Random jottings:

    * Really nice touch from Chibbers to have the ring fall. Still a bit concerned about him, but not at all about Whittaker. Not even slightly;

    * Anachronism alert: The British troops actually sang The First Nowell (as was then spelt) back at the Germans and then Oh Come all Ye Faithful. Silent Night was not especially popular in Britain at the time. But the rhetorical flourish  makes that easy to accept. The men above Lethbridge-Stewart’s ranks on both sides made sure it never happened again;

    * Speaking of whom, is it possible to be majestic and sublime at the same time? Because that was Gatiss as Lethbridge-Stewart Snr. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him in more command of a role;

    * Clara put back in his head. That settles that argument once and for all;

    * Wrong size windows;

    * “Me Too!”; “Good Lord!”;

    * “Because I’m scared.”

    * Apparently every fuckwit on Twitter thought they were being oh-so-original with their “crashes the Tardis. Women drivers, eh?” joke and they get really cross when you cough and say “Matt Smith”;

    * Also the pillock on the Guardian who referred to Rusty as “the hugging Dalek”. Presumably nicked from another short-attention-span peabrain on Twitter. People who don’t pay attention really shouldn’t be allowed internet access. Or out;

    * And it is a bleak statement of our times that the Testimony – surely influenced by Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation – turns up in the very week in which fascist scum on Twitter have tried to appropriate the term Shoah – one of the most sacred in Judaism – for perverted ends, when Twitter bans the hateful pigs. If you see it, report it for hate speech and help them to their banning.

    Kid’s show, eh?

     

    #62737

    but it was what you’d call a character piece.

    Why the but? It was delightful variation after last year’s plotting masterclass.

    Nice to see Hartnell, Wills and Craze get proper credits.

    #60960

    INT – TARDIS – DAY

    Jodie!Doctor closes the Tardis door and sees the new Tardis decor. There is a lot of pink, with many delicate pastel shades as highlights and gingham curtains over the Round Things. The Time Rotor has been replaced by a circular wardrobe.

    Jodie!Doctor sighs.

    JODIE!DOCTOR
    Very funny, dear. Now change it back.

     

     
    INT – PATERNOSTER ROW- NIGHT
    Jodie!Doctor enter Madame Vastra’s parlour.
    JODIE!DOCTOR
    Hello Madame Vastra

    VASTRA
    Ah, Doctor. I see you’ve had an upgrade.

    #60127

    @wolfweed

    Did anyone else think that Heather was going to be 13?

    Me too – and I really wouldn’t object to Stephanie Hyam being in more. She has an other-wordly quality that suits Who.

    #60121

    @whisht

    Too good to resist…

    #60114

    I think I may have squeed a bit.

    “You do the right thing because it is the right thing to do”

    #60099

    @cathannabel

    with what we know (losing PC and SM), what we think we know (losing PM and MG) and what we don’t know (Who will be Who).

    You are Donald Rumsfeld AICM£5.

    #60098

    @missrori @thane15 @jimthefish

    Bizarre.

    The Doctor didn’t save Clara because Clara told him not to, which is what made it so devastating – that she faced the raven like a Boss. But it was also obvious that Clara’s story wasn’t done because it was obvious that Moffat would end it it on “Run you clever boy” (c/w “Raggedy man; goodbye”). And yet the Doctor persisted – going through torment, facing down the high council, chasing to the end of time –  until “The future is promised to no-one, Doctor, but I insist upon my past” followed by the exquisite heartbreak as Clara realises that the Doctor really didn’t know who she was, delivered pitch perfect by Jenna Coleman.

    And then a little wiggle room….

    Hell Bent was nearly bloody perfect. A masterclass in the craft of storytelling. I’ve rewatched it even more than Big Bang.

    The reason I am so genuinely excited about tonight is that Moffat has changed it up, and given us a companion without such well-established signposts. I really have no clue where it might be going (except maybe this: the last time The Master had multiple Masters it didn’t end too well for him. No idea if that is as issue, though. Hoping the Doctor doesn’t become Dobby again).

    And I strongly suspect this is the middle of a three parter.

    #60051

    @nick

    Yep. Season 2 of Broadchurch relied far too heavily on Plot Mandated Stupidity, especially re the two QCs – presented as shit hot, with one coming out of retirement to take the case but both behaving with mind-melting idiocy, because CC wanted to make a point about the arbitrariness of the legal system.

    I’m less concerned about the writing/ running thing (that’s the modern, American-led, model and works perfectly well in many shows) than that he has someone willing to say “OI! Chris! Noooo!” when he gets too heavy handed.

    I sense that there is a …hmm vibe, for want of a better term… that there is a hankering for something radical in the choice of Doctor and that a conservative choice could, paradoxically, put him under more pressure than being bold.

    #60041

    @jimthefish

    But with the exception of Law & Order, his shows have a fairly auteurish quality (and both the biggees show the risks – neither Broadchurch nor Torchwood sustained themselves very well). And if it is true that he has decided bring in his own team, then I doubt he is going to be that much interested in formula (“safe” is a multi-faceted concept). Although I share your caution about him, it’s not really about the idea that he might be kept in a creative straitjacket, but more a tendency he has to batter a narrative to fit a point he is trying to make.

    #60035

    @craig

    No. It’s still Friday. Why did nobody tell me this?

    #60033

    Oh for heaven’s sake.

    The last episode had a 22% share, which is incredible for a non-“talent” show-in-a-plurality of channels era, and Eastenders gets barely a quarter of what it got in the days of only-one-way-to-watch. DW is still one of the BBC’s most valuable properties.

    And seriously: Chibnall brought in to be a safe pair of hands? Please.

     

    #59997

    @thane15

    Do you have Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s Cosmos on Oz Netflix? It is a remake and update of Carl Sagan’s original. One of the episodes has a very clear explanation of relativity (although the standout episodes are the one about the forgotten women of astronomy and then the one where Clair Patterson set about trying establish the age of the Earth and … and uncovered a global environmental catastrophe).

    #59975

    @mudlark

    That is a masterclass in equivocation. Very good.

    #59972

    @mudlark @nick

    Could have made for some very cool visual effects.

    #59950

    @brewski @thane15

    A continuity error would be something like a piece of costume appearing and disappearing from a character throughout a scene.

    Or an entire pirate….

    also @nick

    And we haven’t even considered spaghettification… 😉

    #59949

    @nick

    This has actually been measured in earth orbit (a space shuttle experiment I think) using atomic clocks. I may be recalling badly, but at 120 miles orbit, time passes relatively “quicker” by a very small amount than on earth. I think the measured difference is equivalent to 1 second over about 80 days compared to earth orbit.

    It has also been measured using airliners over the Atlantic. The difference is very, very small – but measurable. That’s why the Theory of Relativity gets to be called a “theory”. In science your idea doesn’t get to be called a theory until it has empirical support. Until then, it is mere hypothesis (this is why people who say “evolution is just a theory” are such dunderheads. Of course it is a theory – it has masses of evidence to support it).

     

    #59910

    @wolfweed

    Which falls faster: A Kilo of duck or a Kilo of witch?(!)

     

    #59873

    @thane15 @missrori

    If you simply choose to destroy evil you may end up like the very people you despise.

     “He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster.
    And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.“

    #59853

    @missrori

    “Extremis”…destroying evil is not an evil act,

    Actually, it is – that’s why civilised countries don’t have the death penalty. It reduces the State to the lowest level of the criminal.

    #59852

    @missrori

    he’d set it during a war, especially an real, Earthly one he can’t stop from happening

    Did you not watch Human Nature/ Family of Blood?

    There’s no redemption or hope in the trenches.

    Have you not heard of the football match in no man’s land?

    Why not a warm place where the home fires burn

    Did you not notice Nancy and her sons – or Doctor Constantine – in The Empty Child/ Doctor Dances?

    Why is he wasting time with those farmers

    Did you not notice that, when he returned to Gallifrey, the Doctor went not to the citadel and the generals, but to the barn and his people?

    Saving life is never wasting time.

    For heaven’s sake, you are becoming a parody of yourself.

    #59778

    @devilishrobby

    well it always puzzled me why he didn’t just regenerate each time he died

    Because it is time lord technology and if anyone knows how to prevent one (or to mask it by making it look like a teleport, while keeping the subject’s regeneration energy topped up) it is them.

    @jimthefish

    and which I find intriguing) that the whole thing could be a simulation (a la Extremis)

    I think that concept works much better as allegory than plot device. And interesting idea, but would need to be executed with next-level aplomb for it not to feel like a cop out.

    Having scrubbed on iPlayer – not Heather but a (possibly intentional) look-alike. Mind you, I wouldn’t object to them finding a future role of Stephanie Hyam – she has an other-wordliness about her that would slot right into the Whoniverse.

    #59764

    @missrori

    The TARDIS seems to know where everyone and everything must end up, it seems.

    Oh can everyone stop taking this so fucking literally. When Sexy said it it was a little brag, more for the polemic poetry than the mechanics. Almost as bad as the literal reading of River and The Doctor “meeting in reverse”. Never. Meant. Literally.

    And the ‘hybrid is Me’ referred to Ashildr. As was clearly explained in text.

    Only about a third of the things you list “need to be wrapped up”.

    #59762

    @thane15

    Yep – it was clearly explained in text that the Hybrid was the gestalt entity that had become more than the just sum of Doctor + Companion. After dancing around various definition, when Ashildr posited this the Doctor immediately accepted it and immediately knew what he has to do. Clara promptly chucked a spanner in the works but did not demur from the basic analysis – only in the solution.

    On the Face the Raven – I too felt immediately that Clara’s story wasn’t finished on Trap Street (it was obvious for the simple reason that Moff would not waste a chance for one more outing for the “run you clever boy” grace note – he is too good a craftsman to let that slide). And had a set-to with @bluesqueakpip at the time.

    I think the odds of Bill being permanently cyberised are slim to nil – but I suspect that the end of the season may well be that quite sombre, if not a cliffhanger then at least with the Doctor gazing thoughtfully into the abyss. The Christmas episode will then be redemptive and uplifting (Moff likes a bit of Christmas in his Christmas stories).

    #59748

    @missrori

    end the Twelfth Doctor’s story (and the Moff era of the show)

    Neither of these are next week.

    #59718

    So this happened on Twitter (and may still be happening – it’s got a bit hard to tell!). If it doesn’t at least slightly restore your faith in humanity, nothing will.

    Phillip Pullman auctioned the right to name a character in his next book:

    #59688

    @whisht

    Seems a shame not to…

    #59680

    @devilishrobby

    Zathrus

    Yep – had a twitter exchange about it pretty well right after the episode. I also thought hints of the mad doctor in the orphanage in Impossible Astronaut.

    @jimthefish

    and I’m not sure Chibnall would thank Moffat for that.

    Don’t disagree with anything you say, but I think it absolutely inconceivable that Moffat will not leave the show exactly where Chibnall asks (and he alluded to that on the Q&A).

    #59672

    @whisht

    Many years of diligent research by scientists, using science, have show that people who like The Smiths are in no position to criticise any one else’s taste. About anything. Science proves it. With science.

    Over to you Tom…

     

    #59668

    @whisht

    There are many cover of the song, but check out the one by 10,000 Maniacs.

    And back to Time… Best. Intro. Ever.

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