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    @mudlark regarding The Flanders and Elephant Swann I’ve responded on the muddy music thread.

    I have the entire Flanders and Swann collection. Great fun.

    Ooh, even I -in heat like this, muddy, musical or elephantine (there’s a reference to elephants in the room in the live Flanders & Swann version and as there’s the “actual elephant in the room” in Sherlock Season 2 I felt it appropriate…) wouldn’t attend to the garden over 32 degrees.

    I sure hope those frogs are thankful!


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    Yes indeed Thane enjoyed Ashes to Ashes after an initial belief it was slow and tedious. He was roundly walloped!

    Now, to mud:

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    @mudlark -cheers to see you back, our dear Mudlark.  And also @bluesqueakpip

    @blenkinsopthebrave  You must be driven in order to drink? Nooo!

    Having almost given up the good stuff due to medication, I decided to treat myself to a half glass (a real half glass not the enormous bulbous things into which one’s nose can fit -or be stuck- depending on its size) of a particularly woody but citrusy red from the Cuttaway Hill Estate.

    I may just meet Chibber’s Doctor that way first   🙂

    I shall, however, remain optimistic. I like Whitakker in what I’ve seen her in and possibly the giggling mentioned was just my aversion to giggling! When really, the actors look thrilled with what they’ve achieved and I suspect, being a tad younger than Capaldi, they’re in the honeymoon period filming a show that even Tennant acknowledged aged him considerably due to long hours of re-takes etc. Then there’s all the promotion which is exhausting. Possibly, they’re over-tired (Thane, even at 16, resorts to weird behaviour when he’s had little sleep or long flights).

    Under Chris Eccleston there was a period of good bonkers theorising with Bad Wolf and it returned with Tennant in the Weeping Angels spell which, yes, was a Moffat driven story but I feel there was a sense of impending….something ….in that era and we know Who-fans (Whofans?) are clever and want something chewy which gently teases and projects a thoughtful layering… I think Chibber will deliver on this, actually.

    And also I am -these days -and for many reasons -an optimistic soul. More so than Thane who is a little pessimistic, which considering his school and teaching, doesn’t surprise me whatsoever. He’s of the mind that all students should leave school at 14 and be “bus-stop kids” where they teach themselves, saving billions in tax payer’s money; preventing the coddling which even state schools seem accustomed to; where they learn how to get off  “their bums and do something including lots of reading and writing instead of flipping about with their damn phones” as well as working together, at times, to produce quality work…

    There endeth the sermon. Go in peace to love and serve!



    PS: @pedant He watched Ashes to Ashes (at long last).

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    that sounds awful! I’m so sorry that happened. At least the injuries were minimal but certainly, dealing with new vehicles, insurance, titles is all very depressing.

    Some modern cars are pretty ‘light weight’ but more and more have 5 * safety ratings. After years with a 1989 Ford I finally purchased a new car 7 years ago with a terrific safety rating -and also comfortable. I think in Australia it’s almost impossible to be without a car of some kind.

    Stay safe and looking forward to new discussions.

    Puro and Thane

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    Sorry Miss Ichi I forgto to tag you in the conversation.

    I read what you wrote on the other thread about where people get their sources from which then shapes their opinion in a world of echo chambers where egregious errors have been made in the information processing part of our brains, perhaps.

    And I don’t see the Capaldi period as a bold but failed experiment @bluesqueakpip. The thunderous approval I read and heard was often by those who say the least and listen the most.

    It’s a conundrum 🙂


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    @bluesqueakpip @pedant

    But was it that they didn’t like Capaldi or was it because they didn’t like (what some saw as) “depressing” stories without escapism in Series 8, 9 or even 10?  Was it a left-over annoyance at Clara -the actress? Could it be there was an issue in this 30% to do with Pearl Mackie?

    To keep this Who-oriented, there’s a big bang of idiocy going on mixed with a complete lack of perfectionism in the area of statistics when perfectionism and obsessive perfectionism, would, at times, be helpful.

    Viewing figures may’ve dropped but the why is illusory, I guess. It’s political and social arithmetic or slack hacks lack facts when flacks stack the stats   😉

    The results of which purport to support the Dumbing Down of Television.  And there’s how people think about what they’re watching: a little quirk, at first, unleashes a cascade of consequences that make a particular future not only desirable but inevitable and so you get a possible 30% which might actually be 20% or 15%.

    We need to probe -mum would say!

    Thank you.



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    @hiker  @oswald  @ichabod and many others including @kharis (waving hello).

    Absolutely: Loved PC in this role; loved all the stories -even The Moon As an Egg which, despite the general hilarity, I found rather endearing. And it had Hermoine….? wonderful actress who isn’t seen often enough (on telly at least).

    Still, looking forward to the next series.


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    I am watching the interview with CC, the other dude, the Doctor and 2 of the 3 companions and I’m not sure about it all. I love the Doctor -whether female, male.  But their responses regarding their favourite Doctor -David Tennant?

    Possibly because the Doctor has worked with Tennant on Broadchurch?

    Even watching the interviews and the endless laughter, I miss Peter Capaldi. He was never odious….Now, I’m not suggesting any of these people are but the constant giggling, the new TARDIS interior, the sonic, makes me miss PC’s brilliantly inspired Doctor. 🙁

    Perhaps fans will eventually say, “you know, Capaldi, as a Doctor, has aged well….his stories were brilliant. The spectacular layering and metaphors unrivalled” except perhaps with Mat Smith’s first series  – -and the young lady did say her favourite was Smith.  🙂

    Perhaps CC is brokering a deal to move away from any ‘moribund’ ideas which allegedly concerned fans who never warmed to Capaldi’s manner?  And Whittaker sure laughs a lot. I suspect the entire series will be adventure after adventure which is the ‘thing’ that drives the show.

    Even as a seven-year old, those dirty corridors, the mystique behind the terrifying monsters, the whole darned alien nature of it all is what grabbed me. I lived for that alien quality and I’m still hooked into that. But it’s early days and the energy they all have is certainly catchy and a necessary marketing tool….


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    Young Amy has grown up!

    I like the painting very much. The plating not so much.


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    @blenkinsopthebrave Oh yes we agree -that is Puro (me) and Thane . I like Dreyfus’ performance a lot -and Francois Truffaut (no doubt I spelled that wrong)  It is optimistic and at points very funny too.

    @janetteb I understand totally! It was an awful time in one way, wasn’t it?


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    Oh no! About Close Encounters…. Mum loves it and we’re watching it again (I don’t remember watching it when I was four except I remembered the scary bits) . Mum likes it because of the musical elements and she says that’s one reason why she was fascinated by music. In Adelaide Kodaly systems of music weren’t taught and so in Brisbane where they moved for about a year before going to New South Wales she encountered 🙂 tonal music in her aural testing. Anyway I’m actually liking Dreyfuss’ performance.

    Also and I know I’m really behind on this but @janetteb and @ichabod mum used to love wearing culottes. If they were tight at the waist and in black with a different coloured tucked in top ( I think blouse is the term girls use for ‘tops’ ) they are comfortable?

    Fashion is different now. They have a ‘everything thrown together’ look with skirts, tights or boots.

    Mum said if you didn’t wear Levis in the ’70s and even wore a singlet in the 10 age group, you were bullied. Mum was forced to wear a petticoat under her skirt, hiding behind the bus-stop taking it off. A neighbour rang grandma one day to say what she was seeing! The kids wore jeans but grandma insisted mum wear skirts. And out came the bullies….I think when it comes to clothing or weight (mum thought she was fat when she was petite and I’ve seen the photos!) she’d have it better now than 40 years ago.

    @winston I loved those concepts in Star Trek. I’ve only seen a few episodes but I like Shatner. I saw him in Boston Legal where he’s older so I didn’t recognise him -except for his voice which is SO good.

    Thank you for reading.

    Thane16. and Puro

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    Ah, yes:  Hordern, Wymark, Eastwood, Burton -and Ronnie Goodwin. And didn’t it get a lot of flak?

    Years and years ago we’d teach young teachers how to use drumsticks and a drum pad to this score. This being the early to mid ’90s they had no idea about a movie from 1968 where most of the credits rolled at the beginning of the film with a picture of an aircraft negotiating wind, foreign airspace and snow capped peaks.

    Olympia indeed.

    Now, that’s a good handle…. (-_-)

    On the clues, being a scrabble fan, the word beano can make ‘eon’ and ‘bane’ and ‘base’ from the word beans.

    And from basil we get “bails” as in “get out, monsters are coming” and ‘sial’ [rocks forming outer layer of Earth’s crust].  There’s a lot of basil on their pizzas. Or endive. In which case the French are coming (again).


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    Good to see you bonkerising with the best! And apologies, you tagged me after I tagged you regarding your birthday & I failed to do so back. I think your QUEST is spot on. I need an acronym for that. And possibly an anagram & an algorithm too.  ((*\*))

    @blenkinsopthebrave Greetings from Brisbane where we’ve had (shock, horror & also awe) …..cold weather.

    Could, for example, Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor have no memory of the previous cycle of Doctors, for instance?

    Oooh that’s great bonkerising too.

    @gamergirlavatar That’s a good point. New Who since 2005 (AG) has been resplendent with new music under Murray. Not disputing the new composer’s ideas or what he’s brought to music thus far but I’d add that compared with any other telly Who presented a full score with leitmotifs for all characters. Murray didn’t deviate from this  during his contract & used Romantic era motifs & a Romantic approach unique to the show between 2004-10. Certain scores after that didn’t necessarily re-hash choons from the previous decade with striking contrasts between motifs & their characters despite the musical agenda of AG Who, imo? A new composer is definitely welcome & exciting. All the pieces are in place….

    @geoffers. Absolutely. Yes, I’d agree that a less jangly theme & a full throated one would be terrific. If there’s a minimalist ‘realisation’ of the new series (Quarries & Corridors) then the score takes that step instead? It’s lovely how music has a capacity to enlarge what we see. I too like the art-work. It’s different to what I’d anticipated.

    And it feels classical, to me…so in times where everything dates so quickly it could hold our attention @jimthefish ? The previous era had circles within circles & CC is investigating, with his art crew, lines & more…..horizontal lines  🙂  indicating a human chronology rather than a Time Lord one, perhaps?

    @ichabod <waving to you> Yes, it is heavy on the main theme, isn’t it? And I echo your thanks to @wolfweed for the constant (& necessary) updates in these times of Who-drought as @bluesqueakpip said. Now, Pip, I need to go back to that trailer to ‘see’ all the clues….That’s what’s SO great about Who: it really intensifies the “what if?” question which a lot of telly doesn’t pose (‘let’s make a show quickly; our audiences binge on the entire thing & move on’)

    <Time is running out….new series approaching>



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    @pedant is that at #63665?   -from @wolfweed

    wolfweed -thank you as ever.

    @janetteb me too. Corridors and quarries. A thing of mine ever since. Particularly long, yellow-ish, slightly dirty corridors. And narrow. Like its people.

    Puro and Thane.

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    @pedant -I’m replying to you whilst Thane is cooking dinner.

    If we reply you know no-one’s food is poisoned.  No worries with the taggin’.

    @winston  thank you -and how are you doin’?

    My laptop is being “checked over”and I’m borrowing one but unfortunately it won’t let me access facebook which is how, sometimes, I communicate.  Also, rather foolishly I can’t access my emails which would have let me know a msg came thru from you. Is the weather “gorgeously warm”? Our Brisbane winter has temps of a balmy 24 degrees C and nights at 17 degrees C.  People are still wandering around in thongs (the shoes) and shorts here. The Tardis shelf sounds quite the project. I do love that blue colour. Our house is almost that colour -just 1/3 of it but I quite liked it all those years ago. And I still re-paint it in that hue.

    I love lights!! In  your garden that would be something. FAR from tacky!   I can imagine the welcoming glow. Beware of the occasional gent or lady deciding to enter…..I say this as I opened the garage last night and out came a large 4 legged creature! I yelled thinking a) cat b) possum but it was a beautiful and frightened dog. I had to chase down the owner.

    I was planning on making my own stream (the house sits geologically on a stream bed so kilos of rocks are to be found each week) but it takes time and I don’t want to waste too much  water.

    @janetteb  Yes, he is! Correctamundo. He’s doing well but the endless assignments are tiring as am I listening to his introductions, paragraphs, general thoughts…..;)  You have a recalcitrant son as well? It’s contagious.

    Yes the SA Winter is an indecent length from memory.  I’ll never forget the hue (great word) of Moffat’s opening ep with Matt Smith. The warm glow of Amy’s home, the upside down Tardis, the kitchen with its gas stove filled with “fried things” and a fridge with custard. They should market a Dr Who custard.

    We saw quite a bit of old Who during Christmas (shown in part on catch up telly). I really enjoyed the old Who @craig showed here too. And Thane, who did find it slow, initially, is growing up and appreciating the dialogue, its articulation and the very ‘before their time’ stories.

    And how is your writing progressing?



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    hi Puro here -brute force prevented an earlier response.

    I will go to the fth  ta.

    While at it, I’m at 20 odd mins into ep 1 of 13R and notice Jessica’s comment “I’m already in Hell…”whilst sucking a red lolly pop. Buffy memories. Actually, too close for coincidence.  But prob confirmation bias.

    I’ll head to the msg page: if I can get there

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    Do I get credit for finding the Little Shop?

    I got lost. I was in the ceiling for awhile and, later, I became a floor puddle.

    Every time I clicked near the two or three people standing near  the Lift area (to the left of where everyone else is grouped watching telly/etc) they disappeared. Completely vanished!

    Happily it did my head in 🙂



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    @missy @pedant @janetteb

    Well well. This IS new. First time I’ve ever responded on a blog, blog post or topic

    It’s Thane’s dad with Thane who is waving hello

    Lots of things I know nothing about. Which is why I like experts. But I know this: whether any hemisphere was once ice or not and whether or not the dry and dusty plains were rainforests filled with all manner of flying things, there were never any cars “back then”

    The problem with ignoring something like this is that villages along coast lines in Indonesia etc have shrunk. Everything gone into rising sea levels. Denying people’s hardships is ignorance up with which we will not put.

    Except we do. I guess some people and cultures matter more than others and that’s plain wrong. 🙁

    On the stubble burning issue I remember having an argument with my brother-in-law when back on my other home turf. He couldn’t deny that one transmission after another had been ruined on his Essex property in the 70s to mid-80s costing thousands. Wind measurements saw freakish cinder travel across many miles.


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    @janetteb you should include some of those posts in your newsletter! Thing is, a lot of what we cook does come from other countries originally. Her Greek dish, the vegetarian curry (which was Grandma’s invention and won a prize 20 years ago in some magazine) and the spicy pumpkin curry.

    We’re not really a meat and 3 vege family. But the doctor was saying that when Australians ate that way rather than pasta, risottos, pizzas and other things ALL the time we were actually heathier back then? It was a simpler diet and I find that interesting. It was a less fussy way of eating and it was done to get it ‘over with’ rather than as a leisure thing.

    our ‘local ‘ restaurant we used to go to closed last year and it was ‘almost’ a 5 * place but with decent portions? Still I’d have not one but TWO main courses! We had to  stop going!

    There’s a really nice chain place called mecca-bah with Persian food -some of it is vegetarian @winston with the BEST dips made with garlic, hummus and fresh Turkish bread – that makes me SUPER hungry thinking about it. We order THREE of those and that’s our main meal.

    We were there at Christmas and the furniture and ‘ambience’ was awesome -private curtains in bright colours, cushions, big chairs, and non alcoholic fruit cocktails with  plates of olives and pistachios. I had my first pistachio icecream -not as good as the coffee one but almost! @blenkinsopthebrave there are many new eateries here since you left?


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    Mum said “””yuck” to the whale meat and said that Dad didn’t like turnips until she started cooking them and sprouts I like which is a surprise.

    I’m with you on the pumpkin which is everywhere in roasts and soups but Mum does make a simple pumpkin soup with salt, pepper and cream -very thick. She does a Thai one with coconut milk, coriander and chilli.

    Her roasted red capsicum soup is really good with a 1/4 cup of lagavulin, a small amount of some aniseed drink in a very tall skinny bottle with brown sugar. Weird but terrific.

    We love fish too -baked is easy for me to do and Mum used to say her mum cooked liver once a week with lots of onions and red wine with bacon on top of rice. Mum loved it but I said “no way. Not ever” and she says it’s cheap AND very nutritional with all the iron you need and steak is pretty expensive.

    @winston you ‘re a gardner? I had tomatoes and lettuces in the garden last year and also a few carrots but it takes so much time to keep the bugs away, pour water over it and pull away all the leaves  and also I just LOVE my meat! Mum makes some good vege meals like a curry with dates, dries apricots and there’s a Greek meal you have cold containing red capsicum, red onions , dates and almonds and egg-plant. You serve it in Summer with warm bread -I think you’d like it. There’s also black olives and the small amount of dates are optional. There’s a cook book (could be English or Aus) which has this recipe in it.

    If you’d like it, I’ll ask mum if I can safely post it. She made a few changes to it. You can have zucchini instead of egg-plant and change the amount of olives. Oh, it also has fresh tomatoes added with the seeds and skin removed. It’s a sweet dish and I don’t know why -must be the dates.

    @missy Horse?? Are you SURE? Was he teasing?

    Yep Dad makes the  best mash but easts most of it himself when tasting. Mum cooks the salmon fish very very lightly on high heat with capers, lemon juice, coriander or chives and parsley and with good salt and pepper. I know my uncle detests adding salt to anything but I think if you have it not too often it’s necessary to add more ‘depth’ to the meal -that’s mum’s word, not mine.

    I do not go for desserts much preferring fruit and boy do I eat masses of fruit during training season -kiwi, strawberries are my favourite together and mum loves her tomato juice or that Australian drink V8 -aw, she could drink half a litre of that but knows shes not allowed.

    Funny, but she’s put on weight which I think is great but she HATES it. She reckons she has to start dieting which she’s never done before. Crohns does the dieting for you 🙁

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    How are you?!  I read your post and so did Mum and she did say to me “watch for Cath’s work at the university.”

    And I DID forget so I’m really glad for the reminder. Mum and I were really interested in the lectures and how fascinating they were -when you showed us where to find the topics that were around and advertised last year?

    As @janetteb said you’re doing excellent work for Cancer survivors both those who are ill and those who are caring for those relatives and family.

    @missy @pedant @blenkinsopthebrave

    The pasta ad was SO good. Mum was saying that they had pasta when she was about 12 only once a year because grandad said it was “peasant’s food” and same with pizza which she never ate at ALL until she was16 and could buy it for herself and then at uni, every Monday before choir practise some of her and her friends would share different pizzas singing “garlic” at everyone but watered down with vodka and pineapple juice 🙂

    Mum also said that her parents were the only ones she knew of who made salads in South Australia  in the early 1970s and cooked quite expensive beef including ‘fillett’ steak? which was really expensive but it was decided that a smll amount which would fit in the palm of your hand was enough nutrition for an adult?

    Also Mum learnt to make proper creamy meat balls , meatloaf with herbs and goulash which I must say is one of my favourite meals with the oysterblade steak very very tender and mixed with wine and cream too; served with…….pasta, eventually, instead of just white rice.

    Or something called bread dumplings which were shaped like a meat loaf, sliced and then put into boiling water served with the best type of vegetable gravy. I love good home cooking, when I was three apparently and my mates came around for lunch they didn’t want to sit. For them a vegemite sandwich was lunch but on weekends mum would insist on having a sit down with goulash or another fav which is creamed dauphin potatoes with nutmeg,  and cream or butter.

    @janetteb because of your knowledge of cooking history do you know why the potatoes were called ‘dauphin?

    @blenkinsopthebrave  !

    Yes mum said the chops were always overdone too but it was her mum *my grandma who stopped doing that and realised they didn’t need to cook the chops for 2 hours or even 1 hour but barely 30 mins with steamed potatoes. I think steamed and boiled is often similar maybe?

    We have lamb chops about once a month. Dad finds that they’re mostly fat and so he stays clear of them but I love nawing on the bone! Also the peas should be bright green? Just like asparagus. My friends are fussy with food and will complain at their homes about what they will not eat. I was allowed only ONE  thing I couldn’t like which was uncooked tomato but everything else I do like. At least I think I do!

    Funny thing is that I don’t like pizzas/ burgers unless they are home-made and are healthy. I am striving to learn how to cook 3 new meals by the end of each year..

    This is a long post! I hope people had a relaxing Easter and that @janetteb and @missy the heat of the Summer has gone by now.

    All the people in the north of America and our Canadian and UK friends will be hanging out for Summer now!! Yee-hah.

    Cheers everyone,


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    This is waaaay late Mr @whisht . But happy birthday (belated by about 3 months nearly?).

    From Thane16.


    PS: mum loves this song and this particular video.

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    @xad4  @pedant

    That’s awesome! Mum loves those ospreys and I really liked just sitting there, last winter (here) and holding a hot chocolate listening to the wind and the birds and watching them fly about.

    Thanks @pedant and @bluesqueakpip for your advice and ideas about identity. The teacher said I could use John Searle to support my thesis about whether Jack is ‘still’ Jack and I think Searle is great! He may not share my views (or I should say me sharing his?) but he’s really dynamic and energetic. Sometimes its hard to follow exactly what he’s saying so I have to go to Mum or Wikipedia. 🙂

    I’ll let mum know about Osprey.


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    @bluesqueakpip Hey The Gang!

    Thank you SO much. That is SUCH a help. I’m already motivated to think Jack is the same Jack  -and by that I don’t mean my facts are changed to suit the theory -but that other philosophers have already indicated jack is jack.

    I don’t think we’re supposed to mention Kant or Freud/Jung yet which I’d like to do. Kant is definitely helpful here.

    Also there are some terrific modern philosophers on the TED Talks which talk about consciousness and my teacher suggested consciousness was my ‘thing’ but I think that also it’s memory theory -which is Locke’s issue. Descartes has some issues and Kant basically solves them.  Still one other thing is that if he remembers success he can only remember success because he’s experienced success before? Also, the basic elements of science is ‘known’ to him, I think. So, if he stands up and puts a foot forward he will know he’s walking forward and not backward which is the part of the laws of Science which being those we have created ourselves: our knowledge of science and its laws is known because we know them 🙂 Because, using words and digits and arithmetic we know scientific fact – – – > paradox.

    Head explodes.

    Again, thank you so much and hope everything is going really well with you Miss Squeak. Been hiding and watching the Aztecs which was  FANTASTIC.  As Mr @blenkinsopthebrave said the history and the decisions Team Tardis had to make were hard. But spoilers!!

    Thank you, Thane.

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    @alpackahacka sorry, there, missed your name! Also welcome to the site. Good place, this.

    🙂 Thane.

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    @missy Hey. No worries All good. I agree.

    Alpackahacka  love your moniker and picture.

    I think you’re right. He would be an enemy? Makes sense.

    @whisht Happy late birthday to you! Mum thinks it was 2-3 weeks ago! Belated returns

    To anyone intelligent: which is all of you.

    I’m doing this thing in philosophy called Jack’s Problem. Jack sits in a chair and wants a new personality with images of success and not failure. 1000 things are changed in his head. Now, when he gets up with these 1000 changes, and with a new attitude to life, is he a New Jack or the Same Person Jack? In other words, is his identity based only on his memories and therefore with new memories of success as well as the flavour of things changing – is he the same or a virtually different person?

    Trying it with Dr Who and his memories ARE there but hidden (except for Clara. His memories were completely lost but returned at Christmas). Jack’s are CHANGED .

    From Thane


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    @whisht LOL

    thought this applies to our now older regeneration considering the diamond he had to smash thru and the different names they had for him.  probably someone else posted it well before I did though.

    @pedant  I think you would also like Pink Floyds ‘shine On You Crazy Diamond’


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    Mr Fish Man! Thank you. I obviously mucked that up. Mum would’ve been embarrassed -she still will be.

    And I’m trying to make sense of John Locke. Mum says “economist” and “determinist” and my teacher and philosophy tutor says “Locke is a memory believer”


    Must post a song on thread -a Pink Floyd which fits the Doctor -one of their early albums but.

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    @missrori Big mistake there. I know Mark Knopfler’s from Glasgow and the British world of music so what I meant to say was “wishes from Australia” Anyway, hope you know what I mean  🙂

    From Thane.

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    @missrori @jimthefish

    Hello there Miss Rori, Maybe this song from Australia will cheer you up?

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    @jimthefish @whisht

    The Lana Del Ray is the same as similar to Creep. There’s no way round that. The middle 8/12 *cough * reminds me of something .. from Sgt Peppers or Revolver actually. That’s happily nicked, studied as well.

    “All art is illusion but then try to touch it and there’s nothing to hold on to…..I wanna get off, but I keep riding. I want to live my own life  [well paraphrased]…”

    She should start, erm, living her own life, imo.

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    @jimthefish @whisht

    Hallooo! You called the friendly musician? Please press 1 for sales;  2 for technical difficulty and 3 for possible truth and fact mixed with fun.

    Yep, Jim, the chords of the 50s are as much of a cross-over as the early 60s. And this has happened before.

    Mendelssohn’s famous Octet contains bars from The Messiah- if you listen carefully.

    Personally, Creep takes its chords from the Hollies choon. So not surprising that the Radiohead album mentions the Hollies’ lyricists and musicians -or two of them, anyway.

    on the other thread I want to thank @wolfweed for all those fabulous vids as well as putting up In Memoriam 2017 which was just heart-breaking. So many people involved in Who and this brings me back to music, there really are a limited amount of ‘notes’ and chords which play nicely together, horizontally, for our Western tonal ear so it’s not surprising that one song inspires another which inspires lawyers which inspires the internet and more music…….it’s all interesting publicity in the end. Or is it the beginning? Composing music or re-iterating music is a lot like time travel. 🙂

    Thank you for your call. Would you like fries with that? Is there anything else I can help you with taking bucket-loads off your credit card forthwith?

    Cheers. Puro.

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    uh?? Turn my nose up at Ashes to Ashes? Did I?

    “good Lord”


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    @mudlark @ichabod

    Alright! That’s awesome. I mean your response, Ms Mudlark. I don’t think Mum saw it that way (or she might have?) and actually I didn’t either and what was really good in your response was the bit in bold:

    the basis of my criticism was, not that it was done, but that it was done rather clumsily in what was otherwise an anything but clumsy and un-nuanced episode, and that it was played primarily for laughs.

    I get that now: the fact that sexism isn’t for a laugh? It’s not funny for those who still live in it: who call people, on the net, feminazis or even more derogatory names.

    That is definitely something to think about. I was talking with Dad and a female friend who were saying that in the past whistling at women was acceptable and women admired it and saw it as complimentary. When I said “OK, but about those who didn’t get ‘the whistle’ or worse got jeered at, what about them?”

    No-body answered that. I’m glad that stuff is outlawed in Brisbane anyway. You  can’t whistle at women if, say, you’re a tradesperson working on a  building.  However there are advertisements during the cricket which feature men walking past, shirtless, and women laughing and applauding. It’s all very confusing!

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    well, that is an unusual handle? jack harkness? Ah, from Capt Jack, I presume?

    Well, the short answer is any time lords can regenerate into different genders.

    And that’s also the long answer. In my opinion it should have happened before and according to the evidence a female regeneration was planned in the 1960s or early 1970s.

    So, there you go!

    Cheers and happy new year.


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    thanks for that! Will check that out.


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    Absolutely right Mr Blenkinsop. Dad introduced me to that movie:  A Matter of Life and Death

    @mudlark and others: On the issue of over-egging the sexism I thought it was ironic and necessary.

    Mum and I are watching re-runs of The Bill from 1983 to 91 and the continuous sexism is in your face for the 25 minutes episode. It’s deep in the minds of the writers and producers so when a sergeant is hitting his wife its considered by another well-respected sergeant who was in the show for 15 years as an “issue between husband and wife. He’ll sort it out. We can’t get involved” whilst others regarding a different woman, talk about female provocation and weakness. In 1990. For me, coming from a school where blokes still call women ‘girls’ (that’s the teachers calling the women teachers ‘girls’), where guys routinely call a girl ‘slut,’ ie:

    “hey sl*t, what’s up?”

    “yeah, good, Joshua” It’s an endearment, apparently. 

    where guys of my age talk about a woman’s physical  attributes (whether teacher; a 12 year old arriving in high school (“I’d like to uncork that….” ) or a Year 12 female student);  I think putting this issue front and centre is essential.

    It’s a show that’s loved by everyone. But there are still comments  saying, “the Doctor should be a man. If it’s not broke don’t fix it. But I’m gonna sell ALL my Doctor Who toys because I’m heartbroken that the Doctor is a girl.”

    Right wingers on youtube coordinated efforts to elect Trump (never minding his hair line, way of speaking, his weight or tight suits) and diss Clinton because she was: “ugly and fat” with a deep voice and crooked legs. So I think sometimes being told about this is necessary and bringing out the soap box works -as one way of dealing with it. I heard a teacher last year say this:

    “If women didn’t work we’d have zero unemployment. There’d be enough money for  the family if just the husband worked and bringing up children in a traditional style which worked for thousands of years shouldn’t be thrown away  by the femi-nazis.”

    He was a contract teacher and we didn’t see him again but he’s still out there… Anyway my rant’s over!

    Happily, I was thrilled about Bill Potts and thought she did a terrific job and when other Christmas specials have been really fast the relatively slower pace of TUAT was appreciated by me and Dad! The music was subtle and I didn’t have trouble understanding most of everything. The arrival of Clara was good too -sorting out the idea of her being a memory he couldn’t access- a Clara shaped hole  -like the  dream you remember when you wake up but bits disappear when you pin them down.

    I’m glad the Doctor had that final moment and could let it “go.” That was a really nice way to end everything. Mum still cried on her 3rd re-watch. Joyful crying but sad to miss Moffat; Gatiss (is he leaving too because the episode he wrote last season was the best, imho?) and Capaldi but thrilled to see Whitaker.

    Cheers to everyone on the new year

    From Thane.

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    Halloo to all.

    After a re-watch I read some less alluring comments on social media (but haven’t read these pages yet!) which inherited and bred more of the same: “nothing happens in this Special, the Doctor’s [just] his own enemy. There are no baddies.” It’s frustrating to behold the incapacity of some of those people to capture the importance of the Doctor’s character immigration parsed without hasty negativity. Some are frivolous with a self-absorbed wish for excitement they call “plot” or “tension.” They also decry too much taciturnity in their Doctor and yet when he’s light or “jokey” they’re archly dismissive.

    Despite their youth (and I certainly don’t speak for all) they’re not always equipped for subtlety and in their wish for youthful easy action they’re stolid, conservatively prurient and just a bit-behind-the-times. They miss the magical enactment of two Doctors making a decision, one creating the other; all moderated by Bill Potts. The 1st Doctor is in thrall with his later iteration and the plot or mechanism is love, sometimes wordless, a thing of arcane or mysterious comprehension. To be bored by the creation of life and personality, that disordered and terrifying thing? Surely no!

    As humans we have a duty or obligation to others to ‘push on’ as the normally well-constituted are expected to do. But the Doctor has a choice during his state of grace and once chosen must re-identify, re-grow and there’s no normal composure for this- it’s profoundly disorienting, subversive and that’s heartbreaking. But with anything beautiful, like the birth of a child, it’s legitimised through physical and cerebral pain and audacity.

    Moffat came full circle with Twelve. A Hamlet charging at life on the rooftops of old London and finally a George Bailey of broad perception -one who really sees that living isn’t a lonely quest and should he choose eradication in an effort to stay change, to stay unique, a lusus naturae, earth would be an abstraction only. This episode was a bold look into the hearts and mind of the Doctors. Not as light-minded as their carelessness and insouciance betrays, in desperate flight from seriousness, fleeing from a final definite moment. I find it to be one of the truest stories of all.

    Cheers and happy new year!



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    @missy Evenin’ ! I remember you mentioned that awhile back. With this branch of movie/series making sometimes a contract is drawn up including a particular end date?

    So if the new showrunner wishes to engage Murray’s services again then I think Chris Chibnall would seek a discussion about a new contract.

    I remember RTD (on his DVDs) talking about how Murray Gold was expected to virtually compose a movie score-a week and that was a long way back in 2005+.  If Gold has a break I’d understand. (insert emoji for knackered).

    He’s fond of a particular style -a  love for percussion avoiding nasal brass and winds in favour of ethereal wind chimes; marimbas and k’boards.  A very gifted person (All of them were: Mark, Peter, Stephen -a list of clerics circa 2009!).


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    @pedant Yes, “we are all stories in the end.” The ‘how’ and ‘why’ is oftentimes irrelevant. As I said once on the latest Sherlock episodes we know the A and the C sections therefore the B has been ‘done’ or explained and Moffat trusts us to work it out anyways.

    The A to B and A is/= C isn’t to  be confused with Locke or Reid by the way 😉


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    On Locke; dualism; and on memory as identity I think that’s why Thomas Reid calls in his (The) Brave Officer Paradox- which considering Lethbridge Stewart, works well 🙂


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    absolutely fantastic piece this was. Puro and I were checking the ceiling for dust. It was modest,  subtle and generous in spirit showing how the Doctor’s changed since his first appearance. As some people above contested, his laughing, jokey and hugging personality IS this Doctor: he no longer needs that carer but now he finally remembers her. I remember too. That discussion where people believed that the Doctor did remember Clara -well, no, now we realise he didn’t -he saw ‘around’ her, there was a hole with a musical motif and in this episode the music re-formed her much like the Doctor was re-formed from his first appearance.

    I’m watching tWWing again with Mum and whilst I know Doctor Who and tWW can’t be compared you can see, like in Buffy, that these showrunners put characters and the experiences they have, personally, first.

    Plot is what happens when you’re making other plans or doing other things.

    Scientists when looking at people’s brains who are watching emotional character developments rather than plot-based chronological stories notice all sorts of colours light up and dance around the brain. We are drawn to characters and their development. Seemingly it’s in our hind-brains to do that! I think that’s awesome.

    Moffat was holding these characters:  the new Doctor, the present Doctor, the first Doctor and the soldier, very gently in his hands, shaping and highlighting, forming and processing. It was a sight to see.

    A sight to see.

    Cheers, Thane16.

    And a very happy new year to you all.

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    Me and Mum are waving hello to you all the way over and above in Canada. After Dad and I visited Adelaide which didn’t have humidity and even when it was 35 it felt like 25 Celsius, made me seriously think of living in South Australia or going somewhere colder. Dad used to walk the ‘beat’ in the London Met and says “get orf the grass, youre talking cobblers: it be Vincent Price.”

    What? 🙂

    I Have NO idea about that: is it code or slang?

    Anyway, I realise Mr Blenkinsop, I should’ve written; “Mum and I” not “me and Mum” 😉

    We wish you all the best for the Christmas break & a happy & contended 2018. I also hope you enjoyed the Christmas special which we haven’t watched as yet.  And happy NY also to @hiker and @dirishb -I like both your avatars/pictures.

    @craig wishing you the best for the new year  hoping it brings new & interested members in Jodie Whittaker’s amazing role. I wonder how she’s feeling? Nervous, excited? Big responsibility on her shoulders and I think her shoulders are good enough to hold this antique role  – antique isn’t the word I was looking for but I mean she’s definitely up to the challenge.

    Also to @arbutus and family.

    Cheers, Thane16

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    Hey! It’s good to see you back on the Sofa or couch sprinkling all the gold & glittterrr.


    I haven’t watched the episode as yet and neither has mum -she’s doing OK but not last night so we are hoping the new DVD player has worked and taped it otherwise we will be watching it on the ABC on a tiny screen.

    @xad4 good to see you around here again. Long missed said Puro, my mum. And @miapatrick that sounds HILARIOUS! Also, Miss Mia, you helped me on my Romeo and Juliet essay and in the end I got one of 2 A’s in my class of 30. The last piece was a monologue based on a Aus song and I had an A+ for that and I have to thank @tardisblue and @pedant for the assistance or reminders. ANd others too, who I probably missed. It’s the non-alcoholic egg nog I think. It didn’t taste all that good 🙂

    @karenmarie welcome to you from me and mum -I’ve taken the training wheels off so it’s really me saying hello all by myself. It’s good you’ve joined. You’ll have a good time here especially on the music thread and the sofa.

    @bluesqueakpip Doing God’s work on a Sunday -and would it be three masses? Because of midnight mass? Not sure if you ‘do’ Midnight mass.

    Cheers to all including @janetteb and @missy on the Aussie shores.

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    @phaseshift I think I missed your show tickets. Congratulations. That’s so beast!

    Me? I’d ask Mr Moffat “when did you really absolutely know you wanted to be showrunner for Doctor Who?”

    That’d be my question. It’s probably a silly one and he’s probably answered it before.

    Have a fab time!

    From the Puro Aussie Crew

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    And happy Christmas to people who aren’t Who Fans too. Because some people may have people in their homes who aren’t Who fans like us and that’s OK.

    Is ‘fan’ short for ‘fanatic’? Coz I wasn’t sure that was a good thing.  If it is short for fanatic, then I think I am one!

    Thane16 and the fam.  00xx00

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    Hey folks.

    thirty minutes to Christmas and as I had a looong sleep I may stay up and lasso the moon!

    Yes, we watched A Wonderful Life and yes I did complain initially and say “Black and white? No!!”

    But I loved it.

    Happy Christmas Who-Fans and love your card @whisht. Awesome clever.

    I can barely attach an email and everybody says: “oh, you’ll pick it up, you’re a bloke, you’re bound to!” 🙁

    Born in the wrong decade.

    From the Puro family

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    @wolfweed @missy @bluesqueakpip @ichabod @cathannabel @winston  & others

    Aw shucks that was awfully decent of you!

    Yes, I am now 16. And my acne has really set in. On a positive note, my hair is turning curly and I’m taller.

    Thank you  :\

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