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25 August 2017 at 12:08 #61802
As a whovian, I can only agree with you about it’s survival.
What makes it impossible for me to accept a female Doctor I think, is that having watched the very first episode, as it was aired, and every series since, I have a mind set about it being a male.
Chosing JW to take the role, from what I’ve seen of her, is simply adding insult to injury in my book, and I cannot get passed it. *shrugs shoulders*
Missy
25 August 2017 at 12:01 #6180124 August 2017 at 11:41 #61796Has anyone been watching Ripper Street?
Missy
24 August 2017 at 11:26 #61795@ichabod: Damn, I’m going to miss him, contradictions and all.
Oh, so shall I.
I was watching Extremis last night. My OH walked into the room just as it finished. Feeling sad, I said (out loud)
meaning PC, “I hate you!” To which my OH replied, “No you don’t!”
He’s obviously been paying attention. *chuckles*
Missy
24 August 2017 at 11:18 #61794@mccottonthedoctorf:
You could be right. Perhaps he thought that enough was enough.
@hiker: I have high hopes for the Christmas special. I’ll miss Capaldi. I hope he hits it out of the park!
If anyone can, he can.
Missy
24 August 2017 at 11:14 #6179320 August 2017 at 08:37 #6176620 August 2017 at 08:35 #61765@ichabod : Sheesh, gonna miss this crew no matter what comes after . . .
You and me both!
Still haven’t looked at the clips (old team clips I mean) must make some time. Thanks to all who contributed.
Missy
20 August 2017 at 08:30 #61764Do any of you have a WEST LODGE in your vicinity? There is one here, but I’ve not been into to it.
Here is WA.
Missy
20 August 2017 at 08:26 #61763As the 13th Doctor has closed – which is not a surprise, what else is there to say? – I was unable to answer your posts
@cathannabel and @thane15
Sorry abut that, but I can’t always spend so much time on here. Anyway, suffice it to say quickly, I have my opinion and you both have yours – and I could be wrong. Time alone will tell.
Missy
20 August 2017 at 08:10 #61762@winston: PC has been a mysterious and magical Doctor who took us for a rollercoaster of a ride through space and time. We went places with him that scared us or broke our hearts or made us giggle like children but as long as he was there we felt safe. We have questioned his actions but never his motives which are clear- to help where he can and to be kind ,without witness or reward. I will really miss Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, he was great!
My feelings exactly, and it is just feelngs. I can’t help the way I feel, but can help what I do about it. I shall watch the 11th series so that I can have an opinion. But, as far as I am concerned, a female Doctor is all wrong.
5 August 2017 at 12:03 #61634@nakoruru:
So sorry I cannot help you. You could try asking Google. You’d be surprised what they know.
Good luck
Missy
5 August 2017 at 11:58 #61633<span class=”useratname”>@jimthefish</span>Time Lord:
I’ve seen her in : Tess of the D’Urbervilles, Accused, Cranford and all three series of Broadchurch. Before we knew that PC wasn’t going to do a fourth series, and before JW had been chosen, I’d told my OH that she irritated the hell out of me. The two you mentioned I’ve never heard of. You could be right baout KM- if he was offered the part. Very noble sentiments, and normally I’d agree, but as I don’t like the woman, it makes your suggestion very difficult.
As to the politically active, I was told this by a friend. She likes DW, but not as much as her husband. One assumes (shouldn’t assume) that she meant that JW is politically outspoken – but I’ll ask for details. Benedict Cumberbatch is too, and most of his opinions I don’t agree with, but he is still on the top of my list.
Missy
5 August 2017 at 11:46 #61632How well you know me. *grins* Loving it.
@conchobarre:
I know what you mean. However I didn’t fall asleep during the Musketeers, my OH and I really like it. If you haven;t already, do try to see In the Loop – hilarious!
Missy
4 August 2017 at 11:59 #616074 August 2017 at 11:57 #61606A thought occurred . So just to make my feelings clear. I am against a female Doctor, but as I have no say in the matter and it’s inevitable, they could at least have nade a better choice. I do not hate JW, she can act – although always as herself – but she isn’t in the same class as Olivia Colman, Tilda Swinton or Nicola Walker, that’s my point. Not that any of these wonderful actressess would have been available.
Missy
4 August 2017 at 11:31 #61605Thank goodness Kris Marshall won’t be the new companion – I hope. It would dash his chances of ever becoming the Doctor.
Missy
4 August 2017 at 11:24 #61604@cathannabel: We’re on this Forum because we care about Doctor Who. Some of us are feminists, SJWs even, some aren’t. Surely all of us want the show to be successful, to continue to capture the imaginations of children and adults, to retain the loyalties of long-standing fans (I’m one of those, I go back to the Troughton era) and to attract new fans. If the change makes some fearful about the future success of the show, I genuinely sympathise even if I don’t share that view, but surely all we can do is to wait and see.
Warriors? Hmm, surely not.
Not being a member of the ‘sisterhood’ – could this be a female version of the masons – I too want the show to go forth and prosper, but not with a female Doctor. It may or may not work, who can tell, but people like me don’t have to like it. Trouble is, I have never liked JW and my OH can prove it.
@lisa: So what’ s wrong with sex
My take is the Doctors can have anykind of relationship that they want to and we will all gain from their perspective .
What ‘s wrong with it? This is basically a childrens show, if you want sex there are plenty of shows around where this ‘activity’ features greatly. The joy of DW is that there isn’t any swearing or sex.
@mirime: My little boy is only four and has watched a few First Doctor episodes, seen clips on YouTube (he loves Clara) and has played with my Lego Tardis. He’s seen the new Doctor and made no comment at all on her being a woman.
At four years old, he probably doesn’t care being new to it.
I’m with Peter Davison!
@antaus: Personally I don’t think ALL feminists or SJWs are bad. I think there are people in both groups that see the wrongs and ills of society and do want to change them for the better. My major malfunction is with the people who run the organizations because from the experiences I’ve had, I don’t see them as having the best interest of the people at heart. I may be wrong but I don’t feel that way.
That’s makes at least two of us. what puzzles me is why these people agree to being called ‘guys’ and ‘actors?’ surely that is sexist?
@jimthefish: It’s going to be interesting to see how CC deals with this now that the Doctor is a woman. It’d be fun to see River return but I highly doubt she will. It’s unlikely that CC will want to use SM’s characters, any more than SM had any interest in using RTDs.
Not if CC has any sense. Alex Kingston would act JW off the screen.
I read an article recently, where it stated that the BBC were swapping male presenters for female presenters because they didn’t have to pay them so much. Charming aren’t they. However, perhaps they have decided to try the same thing with Doctor Who, and save some money. *she says cynically* A friend also told me that JW is politically active? The friend watches DW with her husband – he’s the fan – so has no axe to grind. Neither of them like the idea of a female Doctor either. Is anyone in any doubt that I’m against the idea? *rolls eyes*
Missy
4 August 2017 at 10:41 #6160330 July 2017 at 10:17 #61545Oooooooooooooo! What a lucky vegimite am I.
Our daughter gave me THE THICK OF IT for my birthday – Four series, Box set.
Can’t wait to get stuck in.
Have see the first episode. The writing is wonderful, especially the first scene, when a Minister thinks his job is safe, then finds it isn’t. I couldn’t stop giggling.
One wonders if this really goes on in politics.
30 July 2017 at 10:12 #61544A lot of reading to do, and I shall.
Missy
29 July 2017 at 10:12 #61530Interesting article and I agree with most of it, except for Paul McGann and forgetting Peter Capaldi and embracing JW. Had I admired all four Doctors equally, then maybe (except for JW) but as PC became MY Doctor, I’m not likely to forget him.
@jimthefish
Time Lord: Yes, the hair seems to be key. (Odd how you can follow the trajectory of certain Doctors in their tonsorial styling. Pertwee, the first Baker, Capaldi.) Oh and that New Statesman article is great.</div>>One of the most persistent tropes of the anti-Moffat brigade is that Capaldi is a great Doctor who was poorly served with more than his share of bad scripts. I’m going to call bullshit on that right now because to my mind he’s enjoyed the best run of most consistent, strongly written stories of any AG Doctor. He’s never had to endure a Boom Town, or a Fear Her or a Love and Monsters.
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The tousled locks, I always thought, were brought about because of his loss of River Song. and how right you are about the above episodes. Steven Moffat brought fresha air to the programme. As for Danny Pink, I found his character annoying, alwys wondering who actually did have a chip on their shoulder? The three parter you mentioned, surely Extremis was superb?Missy
29 July 2017 at 09:47 #61528@wolfweed: The role of the Doctor, which Peter Capaldi embodied.
I second that. His Doctor was far more complicated – and yet more simple – than those who came before. As for Malcolm Tucker, PC was hilarious. It must have been exhausting all that swearing!
Peter Capaldi’s Doctor has always been a mystery to me. He is unpredictable yet you can rely on him, he can be cruel and yet so kind, cranky and bossy but easy and funny. He has so many personalties inside him he is impossible to understand and yet he wants us to and we want the same.Is he a good man? I still don’t know but I think he wants to be so badly that he must be. Yet he seems to just let some people die in a way that 10 or 11 would never do but then sacrifices his own memories to save another.There are just so many contradictions that he will keep me intrigued forever.
I wish PC didn’t have to go but Doctor Who is a richer, deeper experience because he was in it. He is a great actor and I can’t wait to see what he does in the future
He was simply superb and I too shall keep an eye out for his future roles.
Missy
29 July 2017 at 09:30 #61527@miapatrick: Just read this.
Well done. Very well done. *thumbs up*
@jimthefishTime Lord:
Thank you it was.
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:47 #61506Such a lot to read.
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:46 #61505Yes; it might be worth remembering that pretty much everybody is feeling losses of some kind here, which is one of the things that “the end of an Era” means.
True, but I could live without this loss, which is unnecessary
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:38 #61504Happy Birthday to me! *Big smile*
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:36 #61503Can’t say I’m surprised that PC says he plans to just “vanish” for a while. I think he’s got a lot to think about from this experience of getting his dearest wish from childhood, and having to deal with the many realities of actually doing it — it’s never entirely what you expect, is it? And there will likely be some brooding time too (Scottish, you know). It can’t easy or quick to come down from a high like that, and let go of the inevitable lows as well.
Sheesh, gonna miss this crew no matter what comes after . . .
You and me both. it’s very sad.
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:28 #61502@mirime: I think @missy and I feel similarly about the Twelfth Doctor – and I also don’t feel the need to have everything wrapped up neatly with a bow on top, nothing wrong with loose ends!
Agreed. Also I have many friends who watch DW but aren’t fans, they also feel that a female Doctor is a mistake.
Time will tell of course.
Missy
28 July 2017 at 12:22 #61500@antaus: re your post 61219 – an the rest as far as I can see.
I couldn’t agree more. Naturally to be able to criticise and judge, I must watch series 11, or some of it at least.
Justseeing JW in the Tardis makes me cringe. Just to repeat myself, before we knew that JW was to be the next Doctor, my OH and I ere watching Broadchurch series 3. There is ne person in this I don’t like – said I – and pointed to JW – HER! She irritates the hell out of me. She did in Cranford too. Like Brendan Coyle, Joanne Froggatt,Bryan Brown and, until recently Sam Neill, she is always plays herself.
With luck, the BBC will only have given her a years contract. Perhaps she will be a huge success, but not in this house.
I watched the final panel interview on the 23rd July in San Diego. Going by the cheers and standing ovation PC received, as well as Steven Moffat, they were pretty popular.
As for the presenter, who said that anyone who wasn’t happy about a female Doctor, wasn’t a Whovian, and in fact was an asshole – in English arsehole (excuse my language) ……….enough said.
Missy
21 July 2017 at 12:20 #61236@tardigrade: However, I actually think it may be a good time to ditch the Time Lord/Lady terminology altogether, as it’s not just the gender of the term that’s the issue. The modern connotations of “Lord” don’t sit well with the Doctor’s character. I don’t think that “Lady” is much better in that respect- it makes me think of “tea lady”, which doesn’t carry the right vibe either
. The Doctor could call herself “Gallifreyan”.Well now that’s a thought. Yes, you could call the show “The Gallifreyan.” She could also fix the fault and dispense with a blue police box altogether, and change it into something else. After a while, the title music could be changed too – why not? Just one problem, it wouldn’t be Doctor Who anymore.
@mirime: excellent article, captures why I love the twelfth Doctor so much.
Exactly.
When I was a child, we used to play games, and there was always a fight as to who would be the hero. Seeing as how we were all girls, obviousley someone had to take the male lead.
I cannot read all of your posts, there are so many, but find myself surprised that all of you have so much to say. We haven’t seen the first episode yet? No, I’m not being sarcastic, I mean it. Below are my only thoughts on the matter, and probably not anyone elses.
My feelings are that many viewers didn’t like Steven Moffat’s writing. Like my OH, some like all the “t’s” crossed and ‘I’s” dotted. I do not. I love a mystery, a puzzle, a look for clues.
I did read one post – somewhere- that SM preached at the viewer, and if they wanted that they’d go to church. He wasn’t preaching, he was addressing the young people who watch the show, I would have thought that that was obvious – or have we forgotten that this wonderful show is primarily for children?
Although I’ve enjoyed almost every episode since the series returned, the best (for me) have been since SM became head writer and Peter Capaldi the Doctor.
Since the exodus of SM and PC, I feel that I have lost two dear and trusted friends. Most peculiar for a fantasy programme for children, but that, to me, shows just how powerful this wonderful show was.Missy
19 July 2017 at 03:47 #61083I just found this and it says everything I wanted to say but hadn’t the words
Although I don’t quite agree that NO ONE could replace him, I am wholeheartedly behind the rest of the article.
Hope this computes.
Missy
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/peter-capaldi-doctor-who/
p.s. Off to the Dentist! *shudder*
18 July 2017 at 05:52 #60983At a quick glance, feeings appear mixed. I shall read all posts later. Good to see that the /my Doctor is still on the title page, at least until after the Christmas special.
17 July 2017 at 06:10 #60848@fatmaninabox: PC problems (Personal Computer not Peter Capaldi 😉 )
Thank you for that. It made me laugh for the first time today. I trust your PC will recover soon.
Missy
17 July 2017 at 06:06 #60846@glasgowboy: I second that. What a flippin; disaster!
<span class=”useratname”>@jimthefish: </span>Well, he Kris marshall, isn’t to blame for bad choices is he. The role (apart from PC) was made for him. Unlucky 13 mayhap?
@exfan: Now that’s where we part. Peter Capaldi was the best, and I’m certainly not an EX fan.
@mirime: I did see her in BC, all three series, as well a couple of other shows. All I wanted to do was slap her! This doesn’t mean she is a bad actress, just that she plays each part the same way – boring! Olivia Colman or Tilda Swinton, might have worked (although not for me) if it ‘aint broken leave it alone. She doesn’t even look right!
@missrori: It doesn’t smooth the way for me at all. Quite the opposite. Mind you, I suppose the writers of Star trek could have a female Kirk – or whoever commands the Enterprise these days, or even Hanna solo – why not – a female Bond too.
The dynamics will change, and I dread to think what will happen to the Tardis decor. What is this thing for women to play male roles suddenly?
Anyway, I’ve had my rant and being a true Whovian I shall watch the next series. After all, I cannot judge a thing until I’ve seen it. But, I detest the idea and choice.
Missy
<div class=”bbp-author-role”></div>17 July 2017 at 05:40 #60844Ha, ha! Apart from the fact that I don’t know what deuce means, I don’t even care. *grins*
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:38 #60714All the above are very clever, but I prefer the second one.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:36 #60713Like you I have liked all four Doctors of the new series, but Peter Capaldi is the best of the lot.
Of the Classic series, William Hartnell, Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were the best – in my opinion of course.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:29 #60712May I add my congratulations to that of Thane and Puro.
Our childrens friends are astonished that my OH and I are still together after 50 years! so I can see thane’s point.
Hope it was a great party.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:24 #60711@conchobarre:
Can an actor who has already playd the Doctor, play him again? I liked DT, I liked all of them, but if PC was staying, I’d like it even more.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:19 #60710@serahni: Not to worry about spoilers, it happens.
I’m with you about Rose, but I should liked to have seen more of Bill.
@sabesjt98: Hey, they are Time Lords, they can do anything. As for Kris Marshall, we will have to agree to disgree.
He would be perfect in the role. He can be, clumsy, silly, funny, writes on bits of paper, seems vague but isn’t. Can be stern and quite ruthless, rather like a terrier – AND he’s GINGER! Perfect.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 08:09 #60708@nerys: MISSY: Well, we thought we might chuck you off the roof, but I wasn’t sure how many regenerations you had left.
MASTER: Yeah, we could have been up and down the stairs all night.
That is my favourite conversation too. I posted this a while ago, but the wording was wrong.
Missy
16 July 2017 at 07:56 #60707@winston: Nothing could overshadow Peter Capaldis work on this show or his finale , his Doctor has been wonderful and mysterious and sad and brave and way too many more things to mention. I will miss the 12th.
Same here. To me he was the perfect Doctor, and there is only one actor (that I can think of at the moment) who will come close. Kris Marshall!
As I think watching tennis is like watching grass grow, I shall probably miss the announcement.
Missy
14 July 2017 at 12:11 #6060313 July 2017 at 04:41 #60581Me too.
Thank you.
I bought Adventure in time and space a while ago. Very enjoyable.
Missy
13 July 2017 at 04:36 #6058013 July 2017 at 04:32 #60579@thane15: I think Rose and 9 -and then 10, and the way it planned out (with all the ‘snogging’) was what was needed at the time. Without it, maybe the show would’ve fallen out of favour?
But yeah, sketchy maybe? But it worked -for me.
Me too, I loved rose.
Missy
13 July 2017 at 04:28 #605787 July 2017 at 11:53 #60451I have just finished listening to “Rogue Herries” on BBC 4. What a story. I was in my early teens when I read this book, and still found it enjoyable. They did make a film of it a few decades ago, but it would be interesting if the BBC brought out another updated series.
Missy
7 July 2017 at 11:49 #60450Anyone been watching The Victorian Slum? Thank gawd I didn’t live in those days.
Missy
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