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23 May 2017 at 17:25 #57943
I think you have to allow for the Moffat Gleeful Imprecision Factor (and the dates are right….-ish).
I recall a scene from a Tom Baker(?) episode where he airily decreed that King John could have crushed the barons at any time had he wanted. Almost certainly not the case, but a fun historical leg pull.
23 May 2017 at 13:06 #57933You may find it instructive to Google the (probably apocryphal) Pope Joan…
22 May 2017 at 23:11 #57883@morpho
Eh?
When was the Pope bashed? Church was simply placed at the opposite end if a spectrum to CERN, and both were presented as knowing something bad was happening.
22 May 2017 at 11:36 #57857The picture on the wall should really be Liv Ullman or Johanna Wokalek, since they both played Pope Joan in films of the same name.
21 May 2017 at 16:43 #5778121 May 2017 at 12:25 #57769@Thane15
Just to be clear I was using “sprite” in the computer animation sense. Anything that moves and does stuff is a sprite, be is Mario, Messi in FIFA17, Zombies in Half Life 2, spaceships in Elite or orcs, elves and wotnot in World of Warcraft. “Those things you shoot in video games”.
@bendubz11 @steffstaff (welcome back and welcome respectively)
And yes, the Veritas/ checksum is an integrity check – in this case to check that the AI hasn’t developed a mind of its own. Which is quite amusing really.
@craig @blenkinsopthebrave and others already tagged
I think one issue is that we are now very familiar with Moffat’s writing and we know the themes he likes to shape his stories – existential loneliness and the need to belong, loss and grief and the power of unconditional love, and that the right thing is done not for reward, but because it is right.
All three of his female assistants have lost their mothers young (much like most of Whedon’s have lost their fathers young) and his monsters are often trying to control in secret rather than through invasion and shows of power. And it is invariably the women – from Linda Day to, I suspect in the end, Bill – that make the hard decisions and, in DW, provide the moral compass in those moments when The Doctor remembers just how powerful he is.
Hmmm. I wonder if we will see Missy on the brink of reform only for you-know-who(1) to pop up from the time lock to cock things up.
A simm-ulation. ahahaha hahahahaha ahahahaha. aha.
21 May 2017 at 01:26 #57742Why did the book exist? Where did it come from? Was it a bug in the programming or deliberately placed?
It is a checksum. If too many sprites start suiciding, then it will alert the aliens that the sim his found the upper decile of human intelligence and insight.
What exactly was Missy being executed for?
Being Missy.
Why did the Doctor look so scruffy and dusty?
It is, evidently, set soon after River’s death and one of the canonical symptoms of depression is for people to not take care of themselves.
20 May 2017 at 20:34 #57715So far you have presented no evidence to support that assertion.
20 May 2017 at 20:17 #57710So Pope Benedict the whateverth was Angeline Jolie, then?
20 May 2017 at 10:24 #5768619 May 2017 at 01:31 #57644Since I mention it en passant in the Oxygen thread, have one of the great songs of the 80s
19 May 2017 at 01:29 #57643Wouldn’t a single death be an acceptable loss if the fate of the Earth is at stake due to that prisoner?
No. We’ve had this conversation – one does not do the right thing because it is part of a calculation, one does the right thing because it is the right thing.
And you go on adventures with companions/assistants/sidekicks because they are fun. And wherever the Tardis takes you, you do the right thing as best you can.
But, to riff somewhat freely on The Waterboys, we see the crescent, he sees the whole of the moon.
18 May 2017 at 20:56 #57639Check this post for more audio adventures than you can shake a stick at: #57450
17 May 2017 at 15:37 #57594Original already linked upthread, but here are two version I didn’t know existed until 10 mins ago. The song is 50 years old today:
17 May 2017 at 15:21 #57593@thane15
There’s nowt wrong with the *thing* thing unless it is used to try to deflect something gratuitously offensive. No offence.
Yes, Twilight did test my faith in The Church of The Blessed Kendrick, but I rationalise it by accepting that no actor should have to apologise for taking a paying gig (and Kendrick has done a lot of experimental stuff to balance the karma).
So, Puro: you’re fantasy man is an inveterate predatory stalker who wants to remove the object of his lust’s agency, eh? That’s fanfic for you!
(Forgot to mention @zeyra, am quite enjoying Riverdale. I don’t know how familiar you are with the source material, but it is very long running comic (Archie) which spawned a few spin-offs (Josie and The Pussycats, Betty & Veronica and…another that I can’t remember). Riverdale has done a nice job of weaving them back together and give ’em a nice dark twist. Also, if there is ever a biopic of Bruce Springsteen, Luke Perry was born to play the role.)
17 May 2017 at 13:23 #57591Did you ever watch Les Revenants (the Canal+ series, not the movie of the same name)?
17 May 2017 at 13:16 #57590@Thane15
Mum used to like the Twilight franchise
HOW HAS SHE KEPT THIS SECRET!?!?!?!?!?
*Cracks knuckles*
16 May 2017 at 16:44 #5756616 May 2017 at 13:40 #57561I was thinking more of loss of advantages and tools. If the psychic paper goes next, we’ll know I onto something.
15 May 2017 at 22:00 #57537We also saw him lose his screwdriver. Now I know continuity says he can make a new one, but Moff has never been one to let continuity get in the way of a damned cool idea.
Lose primary tool.
Lose eyesight.
What next?
15 May 2017 at 21:40 #5753515 May 2017 at 20:35 #57527Couple of random observations after 2nd watch:
1. There was very Terminator vibe to the score at one point, when they were trying to get to the survivors;
2. I think people may be over-reading Nardole. He is a latter day Parker from Thunderbirds – has a certain skill set that the Doc (and River) sees as useful. It isn’t that new a trope, but fun when done well (as Lucas is doing it).
15 May 2017 at 16:48 #57519I would be so awesome is he managed a massive leg-pull of the ARSE-laden Tendency,
14 May 2017 at 23:43 #57487Yes! That’s it! @Thane15 – check Whisht’s link and follow it for awesome Ms Imbruglia. It is very funny.
Absolute Radio has been playing the Catfish song for a while now. It is screaming to be turned into a football chant:
“Tottenham are over-rated
There never gonna win the league”.
14 May 2017 at 18:35 #57470And then there’s this:
14 May 2017 at 12:04 #57450For all you audio adventure fans, Spotify has 30 hours of ’em available for free
14 May 2017 at 01:19 #57422Some splendid bonkerising in the comments.
Also, a reminder of The Minister of War from Before The Flood.
14 May 2017 at 00:02 #57419BTW, as highlighted by @danmartin on the Graun:
“The nice thing about life is however bad it gets, there’s always one option left – dying well.”
I wonder if the Doc is fully aware of something unavoidable steaming down the road towards him…
Maybe The Vault contains the future. That would be a worry.
(Also @miapatrick – awesome work on the Graun tonight. Shame the cops deleted the threads. It’s always worth remembering that, every now and then, trolls unintentionally provide the merriest of sport.)
13 May 2017 at 22:38 #57414And the “Who is an evil commie propaganda machine” thread and all it’s replies have been removed by the Graun’s comment cops. Which, for once, is a bit a shame.
13 May 2017 at 22:30 #57412I did have a thought when I first saw the helmet of “that looks like bubble-wrap”. Which, if it was, is a cool a homage as you will seem. Space station + bubblewrap = Anti-Ark In Space
13 May 2017 at 20:16 #57404Hmmmm. River’s diary in the teaser…
13 May 2017 at 20:15 #5740313 May 2017 at 20:04 #57398Guardian BTL comments about BBC peddling left wing propaganda in 5, 4, 3, 2….
13 May 2017 at 18:53 #57397Time to go all in…
13 May 2017 at 15:18 #57394That’s for PC users, unsure how you Mac users do it.
cmd-a and cmd-v (the a, c and v were first used on Mac – initially ‘doze used different keys, but standardised PDQ)
12 May 2017 at 17:44 #57364Apropos of nothing whatsoever, but was driving around sunny Barnet today and Natalie Imbruglia’s – perfectly likeable – version of this came on. The original has an entirely different, altogether darker, vibe:
Sadly the very funny David Armand interpretive dance at the Secret Policeman’s Ball, when Natalie came and joined in, has been blocked by the scummy rights holders. So the original will have to do:
11 May 2017 at 14:16 #57357As am sure even non-UKers have heard we are having a bit of a general election at the moment.
9 May 2017 at 22:30 #57325And it comes out the day before my birthday.
Arrival is a work of genius. If it has only essence of that invention, it will be fine. But I suspect it will have more.
I always feel that Sean Young never quite gets the credit she should for Rachael. A study in prissy condescension gradual dismantled. Also, best introductory line ever.
Do you like our owl?
8 May 2017 at 20:57 #57282I will spare you that, but don’t think you chickening out has gone un-noted!
Amazed nobody has thought of this:
8 May 2017 at 14:32 #57263Yes – Alan Moore is in the vault.
By Jove! I think you’ve cracked it(1)!
(1) For some values of “cracked”.
8 May 2017 at 01:12 #57240@kharis @thane15
There was far too much emotional punch invested in Clara’s not-quite-death and the Doctor’s auto-mind-wipe for that to be retconned. Do not believe for a second that Moffat would go there. also, I am pretty sure we would have heard if Maisie Williams was coming back. If she is, and they have kept that secret, I will be delightedly gobsmacked.
All we really know is this:
1. It is someone who is annoyed at being cooped up, but doesn’t appear to be trying to escape;
2. The Doctor does not fear her/ him/ it.
Everything else is Moffat going “Look at the shiny! Look at the shiny!”
7 May 2017 at 23:54 #57232There was also some filming reported by @SirClockFace (here, POSSIBLE (BUT MAYBE NOT) SPOILER) that is still to be accounted for.
7 May 2017 at 20:18 #572257 May 2017 at 16:46 #57218Much the same way that Kitty and co (and Nancy and co, from The Empty Child) did?
6 May 2017 at 23:58 #57181I can’t help feeling there is a honking case of “LOOK OVER THERE! LOOK OVER THERE!” going with the vault. What we learned was that he seems to have no fear of opening up and going in.
And again a villain which is not acting from malice. In this case from a child’s idea of love.
6 May 2017 at 23:23 #57180@nick @thane15
“The denouement of the Impossible Girl arc was one of the most frustrating things SM has done, so far as I’m concern. Nothing was that clear, but the inference (as I saw it) was that the Intelligence interfered across his time line – to kill him in the most painful way – but Clara acted to reverse this, by showing the Doctor a different path. The inference being No Clara no Doctor. In fact I felt entering the time line was more of a plot device to discover the War Doctor then anything else.”
The Doctor was infected by the GI. It gave his time stream a nasty red rash. Clara was the vaccine (or to use a more precise medical metaphor, the serum). She assumed that she was sacrificing herself. The Doctor had other ideas.
The key to being concise is to focus on what the story is about.
For me the “how”, the details, are crucial.
And there’s you problem, in a nutshell.
In fiction the “why” is the only question that really matters. Everything else is window dressing and the less time wasted in tedious exposition the better, because down that road is flatulent explanation of exactly how River got out of Stormcage every time she fancied a date.
Who cares? She just did. It’s what she did next, and why, that is important.
“Why didn’t all the Doctor’s before Matt notice her ?”
Who cares? They just didn’t. They were probably busy saving Earth, or the Ark, or not exterminating the Daleks.
How did Clara get in and out of the time stream?
Who cares? The Doctor McGuyvered something. It’s why she jumped in and why he rescued her that matters.
And if you still don’t get the leaf, then watch Clara’s speech – because it explains everything with great clarity and focus.
It’s on Youtube.
You have a PhD.
Try using it.
6 May 2017 at 01:09 #57135@thane15
The labour vote is successful where you are?
Unfortunately it was a complete bloodbath everywhere else. Alas it is too late to get rid of that beardy twat in time for the general election.
Just skimming back and @nick, the point seems to have gone flying over your head.
Clara jumped into the time stream to repair the damage done by the Great Intelligence. This was pretty much spelled out in-story. The “pick a better Tardis” scene with Hartnell was just a sight gag and a gratuitous excuse to include him and Susan and a Gallifreyan scrap merchant (any thematic similarity with a certain other scrap merchant being, of course, entirely accidental. Not. Wait. Deliberate. That’s it).
5 May 2017 at 12:21 #57124Average life expectancy was 51 for a male, 55 for a female.
Bear in mind that this is skewed by high infant mortality. If you made it to adulthood you had a good chance of living into your sixties (which is why, eventually, the retirement age was eventually set at 65. No cynicism there at all).
I warned you.
I WARNED YOU!!
4 May 2017 at 19:39 #57092They weren’t older ladies in 1938 (the respondent would have been in her late teens/ early 20s then).
It was something that even 45 years later caused hesitation. I don’t think two women of whatever age living together to save rent would have caused that.
4 May 2017 at 18:59 #57089When I was doing my undergrad work we went to a teeny tiny village in Gloucestershire to do “retrospective interviews” – essentially, having a copy of the 1938 electoral register and finding the oldest people we could to see if they could remember those on the list.
Everyone we spoke to was sharp as a button. Lovely people, fascinated that a bunch of long haired 20-somethings were doing this.
The answers were really quick and confident: “Oh, yes he was a blacksmith – live just there”, “He was a farm hand – big strong fella, died in the war”; “He was owner of the Big House”; “She was a writer – live just there”, “He was a carpenter”; “that’s me” etc etc
then
“She was, she was… she was the writer’s ….companion.”
The only hesitancy or stumble said more about life in the village before the war than anything else.
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